Bennett vs. Beck

posted at 4:20 pm on February 21, 2010 by Karl

Bill Bennett was not a fan of Glenn Beck’s speech at CPAC last night. He has three criticisms — all worthy of discussion — but the second one is probably the most important:

[F]or him to continue to say that he does not hear the Republican party admit its failings or problems is to ignore some of the loudest and brightest lights in the party. From Jim DeMint to Tom Coburn to Mike Pence to Paul Ryan, any number of Republicans have admitted the excesses of the party and done constructive and serious work to correct them and find and promote solutions. Even John McCain has said again and again that “the Republican party lost its way.” These leaders, and many others, have been offering real proposals, not ill-informed muttering diatribes that can’t distinguish between conservative and liberal, free enterprise and controlled markets, or night and day. Does Glenn truly believe there is no difference between a Tom Coburn, for example, and a Harry Reid or a Charles Schumer or a Barbara Boxer? Between a Paul Ryan or Michele Bachmann and a Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank?

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To say the GOP and the Democrats are no different, to say the GOP needs to hit a recovery-program-type bottom and hang its head in remorse, is to delay our own country’s recovery from the problems the Democratic left is inflicting. The stakes are too important to go through that kind of exercise, which will ultimately go nowhere anyway — because it’s already happened.

I doubt Beck would deny that there is a difference between Michelle Bachman and Barney Frank. However, the Congressional Republican party’s record on spending and growing government during the G. W. Bush administration looks good only by comparison to the Obama administration’s plans. So Bennett ought to forgive those who are skeptical of the GOP’s current contrition. The party has not been led by the Coburns, Bachmans or Ryans.

On the other hand, Beck should acknowledge that it is not clear that the GOP would fare better if it took a couple of electoral victories as a mandate to implement a Tea Party agenda, either. Buried in a Pew poll (on science, of all things) from last summer (starting on pp. 15 of the questionnaire), you will find an overwhelming disinclination to cut spending on most any part of the federal budget. Only 2% support cuts in Social Security. Only 18% support cuts in the military (small comfort for most Republicans). Only 15% support cutting unemployment (and that number is likely lower today). Only 6% support cutting Medicare. Only 10% support cutting Medicaid and other HHS spending. Those categories make up over 75% of the federal budget. And in most categories, the number who want increased spending exceeds those who want cuts.

Of course, Republicans would be more prone to propose freezes, or reductions in the rate of growth for various programs. However, anyone who saw the Republican Congress get derailed in over the government shutdown in 1995 knows how the establishment media will play it. Indeed, these days, Democrats are looking to turn Rep. Ryan’s “roadmap” into a budget for similar reasons. Should Republicans regain power over the next cuple of elections, they will face the same temptation of over-reading their mandate that they faced in 1995 — and the Democrats have faced this year. Shrinking the size and influence of the State requires an ongoing effort to educate the public before a fiscal crisis forces truly painful choices on everyone. That will take the efforts of all of the Bennetts and Becks we can find.

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Bennett is just upset because of the use of Morning in America. He may also be a tad jealous of Beck’s popularity with the people. That tends to be a common occurrence lately.

carbon_footprint on February 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Socialism by 100mph or 25mph.

artist on February 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Bill Bennet, it’s morning in America.

Guess being #7 forever is getting to you.

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM

I agree with Beck.

Bush grew goverment by a significant amount.
Obama grew government by a signficant amount.

Of course there are varying degrees of severity, but the direction is the same. And if we nominate Romney in 2012, we will have a candidate whose signature issue is the same as Obamas: State run health care.

No thanks.

Norwegian on February 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM

What Bennett doesn’t get is that the GOP and DC insiders talk, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk….

They never really seem to get to that place where they actually do something.

sharrukin on February 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Beck is right, Bennet is wrong. Until the GOP makes a strong move to defund entities like the Dept. of Education Beck will continue to be right as well as correct.

Onager on February 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM

So Bennett ought to forgive those who are skeptical of the GOP’s current contrition. The party has not been led by the Coburns, Bachmans or Ryans.

Indeed! Where was the party when the Senate decided to force Coburn to chose between office and practice? They didn’t want him shaping his political views by his practical experience as a practicing doctor.

Where was the party leadership when Bachman helped give voice and venue to the issues that became the Tea Party and when she fought spending like drunken sailors?

Where IS the party leadership on Ryan’s drive to make Americans realize that our spending and entitlements are unsustainable. That we need to face it head on realistically?

Where were they when Dubya half-heartedly tried to reform SS?

Where were they on SCHIPS, on earmarks, on ethics (Craig/Vitter), on TARP and so on.

As Beck says, they have not had that “Come to Jesus moment” that what’s wrong is not “spending” less than the Dems, but that they have totally fallen away from the Constitution.

Methinks Czar Bennett is of a feather with Gingrich, McVain, Boehner, Voinovich, Grahamnesty and the rest of the dem-lite progressives.

As far as I’m concerned, Bennet needs to shut up and sit in the corner, he’s part of the problem, not the solution for teapartiers.

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Beck is right, Bennet is wrong. Until the GOP makes a strong move to defund entities like the Dept. of Education Beck will continue to be right as well as correct.

Onager on February 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM

But without the Dept. of Education, how can we keep democracy alive in America??? /s

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Mr. Bennett has to find a reason to seperate and distinguish himself from Glenn Beck. In order to be a unique individual and maintain his own audience he can’t be a parrott to anyone, not even Rush. It’s good to have this kind of differences.

fourdeucer on February 21, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Just wondering … were you paid by Salem Communications in any way for this piece?

pabarge on February 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM

I’m on Team Beck here.
The GOP is now considering voting for the democrats’ Jobs bill.
I want to see Bill Bennett explain that one to me.

If the GOP is serious about being fiscally conservative, and for smaller government and less spending they need to prove it.

cubachi on February 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Bill Bennett is wrong. Beck is right when he says that the Republicans have governed like the Democrats. Yes, their platforms are different, but “performance is preferred over promises. The Republicans were happy to govern like Democrats until they lost the House, the Senate and then the Presidency.

When it comes to Beck, you have to pay attention to his overall message and not depend on selected soundbytes.

NoNails on February 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Bennett and the rest of his cronies have lost all credibility!!! Indeed, if they have changed, it will take a long, long time to trust their ability to govern without spending, spending, and more spending. Orin Hatch’s recent remarks expose the old guard for what it was and what it wants to be.

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Beck is right, and if you watch him regularly you’d see that he’s not totally saying the parties are 100% “the same”… but he’s saying that the GOP has slowly become Dem light over the last century, as Progressivism has crept in. Now, I would argue that the the populist BS that the media puts out (progressive policies help everyone, including the poor, etc. etc.) sort of forces the hand of the GOP. For example, do I really think GW Bush was an open borders guy? No. I believe the MSM (not just the news media, but the mainstream entertainment media, higher education, etc.) forces the GOP to adopt some of these positions because these guys know if they take a strong stand, they’ll be demonized and their careers will be over.

Now, I’m not a fan of capitulating to hold on to a political career. But if you stick to your guns 90% of the time in order to hold on to your seat, in favor of being who you are 100%… it’s hard to argue with, when the latter means you lose and someone far worse wins.

So this is where I sort of disagree with Beck… I don’t know if you can stand to be a full blown conservative because you won’t last long, so you won’t be able to make any of the necessary changes. BUT, the tea party movement has started to change things. More people are awake and want true conservatism, and the MSM distortions and lies are becoming less powerful.

RightWinged on February 21, 2010 at 4:31 PM

By the way, judging by the size of Mr. Bennetts audience and the size of Glenn Becks Mr. Bennett better come up with a better argument than that to gain any audience share.

fourdeucer on February 21, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Karl, you nailed it.

Weight of Glory on February 21, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Do the old Republican leaders actually think that we have the memory of gnats? They have so much to prove, and that proof does not begin by slapping around the true conservatives.

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 4:34 PM

I agree with all above on Glenn is right. If people do not like what Glenn has to say, do not watch or listen to him. I believe Glenn has done his homework and knows what he is saying, IMHO!
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letget on February 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM

So this is where I sort of disagree with Beck… I don’t know if you can stand to be a full blown conservative because you won’t last long, so you won’t be able to make any of the necessary changes.
RightWinged on February 21, 2010 at 4:31 PM

OK, I see where you are coming from and no matter what polls are thrown out there, the truth is, very few Americans are really purists when it comes to conservatism. That said, I’d respect someone that was a full-blown conservative that would make compromises when necessary to move in the right direction. For example. Perhaps we don’t cut dept. of ed… We just give it less funds &c.

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM

It wouldn’t hurt to permanently shut down, disband the employees and sell the facilities of 1/2 the 3-letter publically funded organizations, so that 1) the workers permanently dispersed and no building to come back to on the next change in admin. Instead, those once federal agencies should be the purview of the individual States. Naturally, we should start with the orgs that Czar Bennett used to lead – National Endowment for the Humanities, NEA and of course the 5-letter ONDCP.

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Well said, Karl. You pick up on the paragraph that struck me, too. Beck cannot sweep aside the excellent representation that we have in the DeMints, the Bachmans, the Pences, the Coburns, the Ryans, and so forth by tarring all Republicans with same negative brush.

In his own style, Beck is trying to hold the squishes’ and the Rinos’ feet to the fire, to force them to take a principled conservatively responsible stand, and to have a backbone in promoting and defending it. Perhaps Beck could give some attaboys to those who are fighting and name the examples of what they are doing on behalf of fiscal responsibility and our freedoms.

Bennett is well-intentioned in his criticism, but he ignores the fire that Beck ignites. More citizens than ever are schooling themselves in our history and primary documents than ever since Beck took to the airwaves. Beck has shown that the past has relevance to our present and our future.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Bennett is just a sad old man.

This is a guy who makes money moralizing to kids while losing his money gambling and cheating on his wife.

Please just go away Bennett.

Oh Look… The Republicans are about to vote for the 2nd stimulus “Jobs Bill”. But I guess the parties aren’t the same.

tetriskid on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

I love Bill Bennett and I love his show. He is loyal to the Republicans Party and wants it to change back to it’s roots. But I will point out one huge difference, when our guys are found to be doing unethical or illegal things they are voted out or go to jail. While I am sure there are exceptions but the Democrats seem to ignore both those issues in their members.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Perhaps Beck could give some attaboys to those who are fighting and name the examples of what they are doing on behalf of fiscal responsibility and our freedoms.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:36 PM

He does… He invites them on his show – I distinctly remember him praising DeMint right before interviewing him…

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Democrats crash the plane.

Republicans crash it a little bit slower.

That is the ENTIRE difference between the parties.

The main problem that America faces is ENTITLEMENTS.

Name me a Republican who will campaign in 2012 that we need to phase out Social Security and Medicare. Name me one.

And then tell me there’s a difference between Republicans and Democrats.

There’s Beer – and there’s light Beer. Either one’ll get you drunk. And they’ll both make you fat – one a bit slower ‘sall.

HondaV65 on February 21, 2010 at 4:38 PM

NEA… I meant Dept of Ed

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Beck is paying close attention to both parties, Bennett not so much…

WhoU4 on February 21, 2010 at 4:40 PM

To say “there is no difference between the two parties” is ignorant and reckless. Glenn should know better.

Democrats support nationalized health care. Republicans do not.

Democrats support Cap and Trade. Republicans do not.

Democrats support Card Check. Republicans do not.

Democrats support trying terrorists in federal court. Republicans do not.

I could go on and on and on. The facts don’t support Glenn’s case.

barrythrowslikeagirl on February 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM

However, the Congressional Republican party’s record on spending and growing government during the G. W. Bush administration looks good only by comparison to the Obama administration’s plans.

And a fall from a short step looks pretty good in comparison to being dropped from an airplane in flight. I go with Bennett on this. If conservatives don’t develop at least a bit of perspective, all they will accomplish is ensuring our permanent subjugation to to this arrogant band of socialists.

How’s that Ron Paul candidacy gonna work for ya?

materialist on February 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM

HondaV65 on February 21, 2010 at 4:38 PM

Yes, I like Beck’s comparison in his speech: the democrats shove a screwdriver in your eye and the republicans pull it out and stick a pin into it.

carbon_footprint on February 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM

More citizens than ever are schooling themselves in our history and primary documents than ever since Beck took to the airwaves. Beck has shown that the past has relevance to our present and our future

Yeah Beck is doing a good job in schooling people that if you aren’t a libertarian you’re a Fascist. Well done, Beck!

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Sure the Republican Party is not the same as the Democrat Party… then again, I suppose Socialism is not the same as Communism…

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

By the way, Beck makes a point to highlight those GOP members that he believes to “get it”. He is just no longer going to extrapolate that to the direction of the entire Republican party. Beck has lauded Demint, for example, and has had him on his show several times; even to allow DeMint to plug for Rubio in FL. That, to me, seems to be a very positive use of Beck’s radio show which redounds to the benefit of the GOP. Where’s the love for that? Does that sound like the kind of plan that a man who wants nothing to do with the GOP would enact? Karl nails it with this:

I doubt Beck would deny that there is a difference between Michelle Bachman and Barney Frank. However, the Congressional Republican party’s record on spending and growing government during the G. W. Bush administration looks good only by comparison to the Obama administration’s plans. So Bennett ought to forgive those who are skeptical of the GOP’s current contrition. The party has not been led by the Coburns, Bachmans or Ryans.

Weight of Glory on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Beck is right, Bennet is wrong. Until the GOP makes a strong move to defund entities like the Dept. of Education Beck will continue to be right as well as correct.

Onager on February 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM

I agree I will believe the Republicans are serious about cutting spending when they, actually do something about reducing the size government, and I don’t mean more lip services. They can start by halving the budget of the communist wing of the US Government, the EPA!

Kjeil on February 21, 2010 at 4:43 PM

In his own style, Beck is trying to hold the squishes’ and the Rinos’ feet to the fire, to force them to take a principled conservatively responsible stand, and to have a backbone in promoting and defending it. Perhaps Beck could give some attaboys to those who are fighting and name the examples of what they are doing on behalf of fiscal responsibility and our freedoms.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:36 PM

1) Yes, that’s what he’s trying to do. 2) Have you not seen him interview, name examples or otherwise “attaboy” our fiscal/freedom warriors?

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:43 PM

If Bill Bennett held an office with his fondness for the education agenda, I promise he would not be willing to drastically cut the entire Dept. of Education. Are the bloggers at HA willing to see the drastic cuts that will be necessary to start getting a grip on our debt, or are they all talk when it comes to beloved leaders and radio hosts like Bill Bennett?

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Both parties believe that their mandate is to craft government solutions, not to preserve our freedoms.

beatcanvas on February 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Yeah Beck is doing a good job in schooling people that if you aren’t a libertarian you’re a Fascist. Well done, Beck!

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

C’mon.

Weight of Glory on February 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:26 PM

You provide excellent examples of where/how GOP leadership has been disappointing in walking the walk and supporting the real leaders of smaller government, fiscal restraint.

Voters have moved away from party identification because the party leadership squelches its best thinkers because of seniority and distance from the voters who are supposed to be represented by them. GOP leaders are distancing themselves from Paul Ryan’s excellent ideas without examining them or marketing them to the public.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM

To say “there is no difference between the two parties” is ignorant and reckless. Glenn should know better.

Really you think he should know better? This is the same guy who calls Obama and Bush fascists. I don’t expect him to know better.

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Are the bloggers at HA willing to see the drastic cuts that will be necessary to start getting a grip on our debt, or are they all talk when it comes to beloved leaders and radio hosts like Bill Bennett?

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM

At this point, it’s not even as much a question of “willing” as it is “how willing.”

So called Conservatives, or whatever they want to call themselves that actually pushed for pet projects that actually bloated the gov’t are partially responsible for the current situation we are in.

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Bennett may be part of the problem…

d1carter on February 21, 2010 at 4:48 PM

To say “there is no difference between the two parties” is ignorant and reckless. Glenn should know better.

Not all Democrats support nationalized health care. Republicans do notSo does GOP Snowe, Collins, Cao and more than a few — they just don’t want the full meal deal that the Libtards want.

Not all Democrats support Cap and Trade. Republicans do notSo does GOP Graham, McVain and more than a few — they just don’t want the full meal deal that the Libtards want.

Not all Democrats support Card Check. Most Republicans do not.

Not all Democrats support trying terrorists in federal court. Most Republicans do not.

I could go on and on and on. The facts don’t do support Glenn’s case.

barrythrowslikeagirl on February 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM

So let’s really teach the Republicans a lesson and elect all Democrats. How long will the Second Amendment last? How about right wing blogs? I have only been a registered Republican for four months and as annoyed as I am with them they are not the same Sadly in need of some reminders of who they are suppose to be but not the same.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Not so much in the house, but in the Senate, for every DeMint or Coburn, there is still a Lindsey Graham or Orrin Hatch who still don’t ‘get it’… Damn if I don’t thing the potato twins from Maine are getting faster than those two… It’s necessary to repeating the lesson plan to the squishes so they actually learn it, believe it and repeat it…

NO is always an answer…

phreshone on February 21, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Even John McCain has said again and again that “the Republican party lost its way.”

…Thanks in large part to none other than John McCain himself.

FloatingRock on February 21, 2010 at 4:54 PM

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM

When Mr. Bennett was Sec. of Education it was his intention (and Ronald Reagen’s) to get rid of it and Congress always budgeted more money then the department requested.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 4:54 PM

He does… He invites them on his show – I distinctly remember him praising DeMint right before interviewing him…

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Thanks. I stand corrected. I don’t watch television and only see the Beck clips when they are posted here or in full at freerepublic.

Maybe it would be wise to offer the positive clips on venues such as HotAir. They, too, would provide a discussion point.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 4:52 PM

One problem is that the economy needs to be dealt with now, not in a gradual process of mildly influencing the GOP at some point in the future.

The US may not have 10 years grace!

sharrukin on February 21, 2010 at 4:56 PM

I don’t see any difference in the good ole boy r’s as with the mindset that ted and his heirs should get elected. It seems a select few should ‘rule’ our Repbulic on both sides. These people are old! These people have been there so long it is hard to remember when they were not there! The sad fact is no one will run against them. Maybe now in 2010 things will change so we get some under 60 blood in dc that will indeed help our nation.
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letget on February 21, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Congressional Republicans were pretty good while running things from 1995-98. Once they felt their power was slipping in the wake of the ’98 midterms, they started doing the same thing as Democrats and using government funds to create in-state/in-distict projects to buy votes.

Beck might eventually go too far — he developed his current radio/TV style after much searching for something that would click with listeners and viewers — but for now, and with so many of the same Republicans from 2006 still in top roles in Congress, it’s not a bad thing to make sure they’re forced to actually do what they say they’re going to do both in the run-up to the 2010 midterms and if they actually do regain control of the House and/or Senate, especially since — just like the Gingrich Congress of 1995-98, they’re going to be painted by Democrats and the big media as miserable, heartless bastards if they’re controlling Congress this time next year and better have the stomach and/or the fear of their constituents to avoid buckling to the pressure.

jon1979 on February 21, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Yeah Beck is doing a good job in schooling people that if you aren’t a libertarian you’re a Fascist. Well done, Beck!

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Please work on your critical thinking skills. Your ability to discriminate the facts and intent of a Beck message, and your judgment is wanting.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM

The party has not been led by the Coburns, Bachmans or Ryans.

Thank you Karl, it has been run by the Bennett’s and McCains and they are not remorseful for what they have done to the party. PURGE THEM!!!!!!!!!

conservnut on February 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Democrats crash the plane.
Republicans crash it a little bit slower.
That is the ENTIRE difference between the parties.

HondaV65 on February 21, 2010 at 4:38 PM

That is a pretty significant difference, if I’m a passenger on the plane. The slower plane gives me a greater chance of survival.

I think we need to more carefully distinguish between theory and practice. In theory, excess spending is very bad and does terrible things to an economy. So in theory we should cut taxes and return money to the people. That’s fine, and I will always vote for a candidate who promises to (and has a record of) being frugal.

But if we run the country like we’d run a household, then we have to acknowledge that sometimes the furnace breaks or the car fails, and we have to spend a little money getting it fixed. The entire reason I want a conservative in office is so that the furnace repairman doesn’t overcharge us and we get a good deal on a reliable replacement car. I don’t want the conservative in office who says we have to wear sweaters and burn books for heat, or now walk five miles to work, because all spending is inherently wrong.

So Bush should have paid for his tax cuts with spending cuts or come up with a fairer way to tax all of us. Instead he cut taxes and didn’t make any spending cuts. It’s no better than Obama’s raising both taxes and spending, but more spending than taxes. This is why Congress is about party but the Executive is about personality, because you need a strong personality to stand athwart the natural inclination to excess by the policy-making parties in Congress.

Common sense, people. We need to have a very serious conversation about where the proper role of government is in life, and then stick to it, not just keep mindlessly cutting (or raising) like trained seals.

alwaysfiredup on February 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Yeah Beck is doing a good job in schooling people that if you aren’t a libertarian you’re a Fascist. Well done, Beck!

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

You should have taken your fingers out of your ears and listened to his speech.

katy the mean old lady on February 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM

She always gets in a bugaboo when beck is mentioned. It makes you wonder what lies just underneath the surface.

This is kind of fun :)

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Just wondering … were you paid by Salem Communications in any way for this piece?

pabarge on February 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Nope. I was never paid by Michelle Malkin, either.

Karl on February 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM

You should have taken your fingers out of your ears and listened to his speech.

katy the mean old lady on February 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM

I did listen to his speech.

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM

sharrukin on February 21, 2010 at 4:56 PM

I totally agree with that and that the Republicans more then helped get us to where we are now. Who is going to get us out it? Just as our Founders sought a citizen legislature and those days are gone, so are the days where we (the citizens) can afford to send representatives to Washington and ignore what they are doing. Just as the temptations of money and power have grown so has the ability to know what the heck is going on in D.C. and we will have to constantly vigilant. Especially since the Fourth Estate has decided to take sides, regardless of what they say.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM

So Bush should have paid for his tax cuts with spending cuts or come up with a fairer way to tax all of us.
alwaysfiredup on February 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM

A little knowledge will free you.

10 Myths about the Bush tax cuts.

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 5:04 PM

I don’t know how McCain and Bennett can keep a straight face when they proclaim that they have been fighting the good conservative fight all along.

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Bill Bennet, it’s morning in America.

Guess being #7 forever is getting to you.

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM

You mean BORING in America. Listened to him a few times…SNOOZEFEST!

BobAnthony on February 21, 2010 at 5:08 PM

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Your link does not address my point. Bush increased spending and did not pay for it. Whether or not absolute revenue levels increased is immaterial, the point is that he increased the deficit.

alwaysfiredup on February 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Beck is a lot like Newt; he can agitate plenty but you don’t want him running the store. I think he should do a stint as Drug Czar or take on the education gulag as Education Secretary before we elevate the merits of his counsel. Don’t get me wrong; I like Beck and I think every one of his personalities is sincere.

Mark30339 on February 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Beck is right of course but the sad thing is that the current Republican party is a mixed bag. Some of the moderates mentioned above will always sell out the conservative principles in the name of compassion and compromise. I believe what we need is to get a mean son of a bitch to run for one term and to tell everyone up front that he/she is a one term president that promises to kick ass in DC and turn this mess around. The current system will not allow anyone to do anything once in office because of the partisan nature of Congress. If that mean SOB told everyone before he/she ran that this is what was needed and that there was no other way to correct the mess in DC, we might be surprised at the outcome.

inspectorudy on February 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Two aspects of our debate bother me. One, I don’t like the promotion of a third party, which ultimately will lead to a growing influence of the progressive wing of both parties. I want our conservative promoters to woo and influence the weaklings in order to distinguish the parties. As George Will said, partisanship is a good thing.

The other potentially fatal movement is the desire to throw out all of the incumbents. Surely we can distinguish the best from the deadweight and comfortable benchsitters.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM

I did listen to his speech.

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Sure you did.
Please take the bee out of your bonnet and place it back in the hive. Hornet Sting hates cousin abuse.

katy the mean old lady on February 21, 2010 at 5:11 PM

He does… He invites them on his show – I distinctly remember him praising DeMint right before interviewing him…

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Thanks. I stand corrected. I don’t watch television and only see the Beck clips when they are posted here or in full at freerepublic.

Maybe it would be wise to offer the positive clips on venues such as HotAir. They, too, would provide a discussion point.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:55 PM

He has also said that Michele Bachmann may be the only politician that he completely trusts right now.
He does give Cudos to some of them on occasion. They have to deserve it though. I think he thinks fairly highly of Sarah Palin.

Colorado Anne on February 21, 2010 at 5:13 PM

alwaysfiredup on February 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM

I am no Bush apologist, but you have to place the blame on the group of thieves and liars that control the purse strings. Unfortunately Bush seemed to go along to get along for way too much of his Presidency. He did however try to directly address two of the most serious issues that face the country financially. Those two issues being the insanity going on with the Community Reinvestment Act(FM/FM) and Social Security. The dependency peddlers in the Senate and House shut Bush down on every front there.

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 5:14 PM

Please take the bee out of your bonnet and place it back in the hive. Hornet Sting hates cousin abuse.

katy the mean old lady on February 21, 2010 at 5:11 PM

What are you talking about? Bee out of your bonnet? If you are trying to insult me just come out and say it.

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM

alwaysfiredup on February 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM

+1 to the point that not all debt is bad, but sometimes necessary. However, the GOP were like drunken sailors on a spending spree when they last had control. When it came time to choose leadership in both houses, they had the choice of electing fiscal conservatives and instead chose partisans, to whit Hastert (had a sweet real-estate deal pending freeway spending in his district, in addition to pork & earmarks for others) and the Hammer (dished out pork and earmarks). Neither were too keen on reducing spending, while unabashedly pro-taxcuts.

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM

Maybe it would be wise to offer the positive clips on venues such as HotAir. They, too, would provide a discussion point.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:55 PM

The negative clips must generate more traffic. ; – ))

Colorado Anne on February 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM

Quit your beckering, Glenn! George W. Bush is the biggest reason the Republicans lost their way for 8 yrs. A President is always the leader of his party, & there was tremendous pressure to go along with his “compassionate (anti-)conservatism”.

jgapinoy on February 21, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM

One positive is that we have access to faster, more accurate information now, through the internet.
F’instance, the Obamacare bill was exposed, dissected and analyzed more rapidly by the unwashed masses than by most of the congresscritters themselves. They can’t hide as well anymore and there are always those embarrassing Y-tube videos to document what they said in the past. :)

a capella on February 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM

Katy, I don’t think it was a bee in the bonnet. I think it was a burr somewhere else.

mobydutch on February 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM

What are you talking about? Bee out of your bonnet? If you are trying to insult me just come out and say it.

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM

Oh good. Your comprehension skills are working.
In a word….yes.

katy the mean old lady on February 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Beck is the type who seems to be on the 3rd party kick…

Third party=Democrats in power

StevefromMKE on February 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM

a capella on February 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM

I know, isn’t it cool? And look at HotAir(and other blogs I am sure) with it range of people who are so incredibly knowledgeable about so many different areas for extra insight. It’s a shame that it has come to this but it is what it is. But thank God technology has come along exactly at the same time we could not longer count on the press. Weird how that happens.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM

I will take calm, smart Grandpa in the morning over shouting crazy man on drive time any day.

If I want a loudmouth jerk, I will take Neal Boortz.

Squid Shark on February 21, 2010 at 5:28 PM

Quit your beckering, Glenn! George W. Bush is the biggest reason the Republicans lost their way for 8 yrs. A President is always the leader of his party, & there was tremendous pressure to go along with his “compassionate (anti-)conservatism”.

jgapinoy on February 21, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Glenn constantly beats on Bush like a red-headed stepchild. (Not that I have anything against red-headed stepchildren.)

Colorado Anne on February 21, 2010 at 5:28 PM

Bennett’s a party hack.
Republican good, democrat bad
BS
With few exceptions, our representatives legislate to the
will of the lobbyists.

Tony Soprano on February 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM

The other potentially fatal movement is the desire to throw out all of the incumbents. Surely we can distinguish the best from the deadweight and comfortable benchsitters.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Yea, except 20% think that Congress is doing a good job, while 50% think their representative is doing a good job. It’s that whole incumbency thing, plus the porking they (almost) all do for their regions. So maybe primary challenge even the ‘good’ ones and try and get them on the record. Example — I will no longer support or request earmarks for my district. If I win reelection, it will be because I have done a superior job of reducing government, reducing spending, and helping to secure our nation.

GnuBreed on February 21, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Glenn Beck would argue that a shop lifter and a serial rapist/murderer are the same – they are both criminals. End of story.

pearson on February 21, 2010 at 5:31 PM

It wouldn’t hurt to permanently shut down, disband the employees and sell the facilities of 1/2 the 3-letter publically funded organizations, so that 1) the workers permanently dispersed and no building to come back to on the next change in admin. Instead, those once federal agencies should be the purview of the individual States.

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 4:36 PM

I can only think of one person who would have the balls to even think of doing anything like this and technically, she doesn’t have any balls.

Colorado Anne on February 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Bill Bennett regularly has Sen. DeMint, Rep. Bachmann and numerous other conservatives on his show daily. Not only does he give them a forum but always allows for questioning from the public.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Yeah Beck is doing a good job in schooling people that if you aren’t a libertarian you’re a Fascist. Well done, Beck!

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

former hippy dippies who blew their minds on drugs are so sad to see when they are old and senile

bill30097 on February 21, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Colorado Anne on February 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Get out of my head!

alwaysfiredup on February 21, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Yeah Beck is doing a good job in schooling people that if you aren’t a libertarian you’re a Fascist. Well done, Beck!

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM

No, he hates Libertarians too, as evidenced by his attacks on Medina.

Squid Shark on February 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Squid Shark on February 21, 2010 at 5:28 PM

Yes, that world famous Libertarian who hates smokers and over weight people apparently to the point that they should be shot on sight?

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM

I can only think of one person who would have the balls to even think of doing anything like this and technically, she doesn’t have any balls.

Colorado Anne on February 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Hehe. Then she’d be in good company with fearless female leaders of old – Old Testament that is, i.e. Deborah.

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 5:38 PM

Does Glenn truly believe there is no difference between a Tom Coburn, for example, and a Harry Reid or a Charles Schumer or a Barbara Boxer?

If he does, he’s an idiot. That’s one of my two big problems with Beck. He’s trying to damage the only realistic hope we have by ragging on Republicans as much as he is on Democrats – the “not a dime’s worth of difference” crowd is just nuts.

capitalist piglet on February 21, 2010 at 5:39 PM

former hippy dippies who blew their minds on drugs are so sad to see when they are old and senile

bill30097 on February 21, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Who are u calling an old hippie?

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 5:39 PM

No, he hates Libertarians too, as evidenced by his attacks on Medina.

Squid Shark on February 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM

I’m sure if she wasn’t such a idiot….he would have been slobbering all over her.

terryannonline on February 21, 2010 at 5:41 PM

In a way I wish the Beckies would take congress. It would be a delight to see them try to implement their ideas. They would be a one term Congress and they would accomplish nothing.

It is easy to always misquote history and come up with 2 + 2 = 5 scenarios. It is a would different creature to get into the arena and fight it out.

Beck is an actor, an entertainer. He has to hate everyone because that is how he makes the most money. Glenn Beck is getting filthy rich off of this. He needs BO and the dims in the Congress to keep the money rolling into his coffers. What is the best way to accomplish that? He bashes the GOP and then runs laughing to the bank. I found it incredible on the dais last night while Beck was giving his screed that there was nothing but people there who make a better living when the dims are in power then whey they are not.

Jdripper on February 21, 2010 at 5:41 PM

If he does, he’s an idiot. That’s one of my two big problems with Beck. He’s trying to damage the only realistic hope we have by ragging on Republicans as much as he is on Democrats – the “not a dime’s worth of difference” crowd is just nuts.

capitalist piglet on February 21, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Ummm, how is it idiotic to name the progressive names in the GOP? Insanity is voting the same progressives over and over and expecting a fiscally sound government the next time.

AH_C on February 21, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Bill Bennett is 100% correct in his criticisms of Glenn Beck. I do like Glenn Beck a lot and watch as much of his show as I can; his shows on financial sanity and his interview of David Horowitz are priceless. But Bill Bennett has identified points of disagreement that with much sincere respect to Glenn Beck, I have had with Glenn Beck.

I have speculated that Glenn, coming from a home of Democrats (the old fashioned kind that would have nothing to do with a Bill Ayres), Glenn is inclined not to hear what Republicans say or to blame Republicans as much as Democrats. Glenn Beck was, in my mind, flat wrong to say we are better off with Obama over McCain; NO, WE ARE NOT. I do, though, as a Republican, appreciate the challenge that Glenn Beck has laid down to fearlessly state the truth concerning the financial insanity pursued by the Obama Administration and to fearlessly face what we need to do to save the country.

Phil Byler on February 21, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Maybe it would be wise to offer the positive clips on venues such as HotAir. They, too, would provide a discussion point.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2010 at 4:55 PM

That’s another issue altogether… ;-)

MeatHeadinCA on February 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Oops, missed this thread, so I’m going to cut and paste what I just wrote in the headlines:

If I could call into Glenn’s red phone I’d ask him this:

How many magnets of Republicans have you put up on your chalk board who are tied to, admire, revere, romanticize, or in any way follow:

Che’, Mao, Castro, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Chavez, Van Jones, Jeff Jones, Bill Ayers, The Apollo Alliance, ACORN, The Center for American Progress, George Soros, the Tides Foundation, the S.E.I.U., Jeremiah Wright, CPUSA, Progressives for Obama, SDS, MDS, Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky, Code Pink, Mark Lloyd, Ron Bloom, Hilda Solis… to name a few.

Now tell me there’s no difference between the two parties.

Buy Danish on February 21, 2010 at 5:49 PM

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