Gays at CPAC: The Sharon Statement, Sorba, and a curious reversal of roles
posted at 11:00 am on February 20, 2010 by Patrick Ishmael
As conservatives set their political course this week, much has been made of the newly-released “Mount Vernon Statement,” touted as an ideological update to the “Sharon Statement” that was published in 1960 by the Young Americans for Freedom and facilitated by no less than William F. Buckley himself. While the MVS is an uninspired recitation of conservative thought, the Sharon Statement is, half a century on, still a fine treatise on freedom and discourse, especially in its opening lines:
THAT foremost among the transcendent values is the individual’s use of his God-given free will, whence derives his right to be free from the restrictions of arbitrary force;
THAT liberty is indivisible, and that political freedom cannot long exist without economic freedom;
It is a statement of openness and freedom; of the right to contract; of the sanctity of the individual and his or her right to choose how they will live without undue coercion or influence by the government or his peers. It is a statement that emphasizes common ground on common principles among people of common sense. It is, in short, a statement of ideological strength and a road map to successful governance by and for the People — a statement that is altogether relevant as we prepare for the coming elections.
YAF’s Sharon Statement is effective because it sketches out a way to bring people together on those common principles. And that’s not always easy; it’s difficult even within the conservative movement to always find common ground, and it’s even rarer when both the Right and Left agree on something. Yet every once in a while, someone comes along that facilitates that spirit of cooperation — someone that’s just naturally a uniter, not a divider.
Perhaps “unity through attempted division” is a more appropriate description of the following example. And unfortunately, it was an inheritor of the Sharon mantel that is at the center of it all.
Meet Ryan Sorba. Sorba is the bombthrowing “leader” of a the California chapter of YAF that CPAC attendees booed off the stage yesterday. Sorba bemoaned the inclusion of GOPROUD, a gay conservative group at the conference, as a sponsor of the conference. By the end of his talk, he was declaring who his enemies were.
So if infamy is what he wanted, he got it. Not since Ann Coulter’s infamous 2007 remarks has there been as gratuitous and public a slam on homosexuals at CPAC, although even tonight it sounds like Coulter may be reprising her role as lead bombthrower. (We’ll know the details soon, I’m sure.) Yet in the conservative blogosphere, the reactions to both statements were almost uniformly disdainful. Following Coulter’s outburst, the Captain’s Quarters blog — that is, Hot Air’s very own Ed Morrissey — put it this way:
At some point, Republicans will need to get over their issues with homosexuality. Regardless of whether one believes it to be a choice or a hardwired response, it has little impact on anyone but the gay or lesbian person. We can argue that homosexuality doesn’t require legal protection, but not when we have our front-line activists referring to them as “faggots” or worse. That indicates a disturbing level of animosity rather than a true desire to allow people the same rights and protections regardless of their lifestyles.
Coulter’s remarks were and are risible, and were appropriately pilloried by just about everyone online. But was that sentiment reflected at the conference itself back in ’07? Not so much. James Joyner reporting for OTB that day:
I would note that, an hour after the speech, people are still lined up around the block for autographed copies of her book. Granted, most of them are young kids of college age. Some of them are older than I am. Somehow, I can’t imagine Ronald Reagan being pleased.
Nor could I. Today’s change in reaction in the room is made all the more satisfactory given the Coulter experience. Yet the irony is that while Coulter’s remarks would have been derided yesterday by a room full of conservatives, the same sort of sexually-oriented taunts were used just two nights ago by avatar-of-modern-liberalism Keith Olbermann against — second drum roll please — Ann Coulter. As Tommy Christopher notes, Olbermann’s segment was “homophobia and transphobia at their most insidious.”
But it’s worse than that. It’s a symptom of a larger problem on the Left when it comes to the dignity of the individual and an insight into the burgeoning awakening on the Right, and it’s poised to do some real political damage sooner rather than later. As John Aravosis from the very liberal AmericaBlog notes, “When conservatives are standing up for gays, and Democrats treat us like we are an embarrassment, there’s a problem.” (via Ace of Spades)
No one wants Sarah Palin to be President. But we’re talking about our civil rights. I think a lot of straight Democrats don’t get that. They see out and proud gay people, a lot of us have good jobs, nice clothes, get to travel the world (and a lot of us don’t, but they don’t ever meet them), so they think our civil rights battle is some kind of champagne party to us, as if we’re doing it for fun because we really have everything we could ever want. Well, anyone who thinks that didn’t grow up gay. They didn’t grow up thinking they were a pervert. That they were sick. That they’d never find love, never get married, never have children or a family of their own – because God made them wrong. They didn’t grow up thinking they’d have to kill themselves once they hit the age of 30 because they’d be single, and people would ‘figure out’ that they were gay, and then they’d lose all their friends and family and their job and career. And they knew they couldn’t live with that….
To the White House, the DNC, and our leadership in Congress: You are messing with people’s lives, and we know it. And the day that an anti-gay bigot gets booed at CPAC, you all better start being very afraid.
Indeed, and it’s not as if the Right is or has been without gay rights supporters. As Young Americans for Liberty notes,
Barry Goldwater once said, “The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they’re gay,” Goldwater asserts. “You don’t have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that’s what brings me into it.”
Toss in Darth Cheney, Ted Olson, and others, and you have the makings of an important course change in American politics. And it’s about time.
The conservative movement has common cause with all who are seeking self-determination, and whether you’re citing the Sharon Statement or Barry Goldwater for support, it’s worth considering that our individual rights are best preserved when people of common interest come together, rather than tear each other down.
And one need not agree with the whole platform of gay conservatives, just as one need not agree with every tenet of every subgroup of conservatism. As Ed noted when the GOPROUD issue came up in December,
If we want to win control of the House in 2010, we need to focus on key principles that address the nation’s crises and the main points of disillusion with Democrats. That should set our focus on those points on which Democrats overreached — namely, spending, government intrusion, spiraling deficits, and fiscal insanity. We need to show that we can, if trusted with power again, govern properly and responsibly, and even more that we understand that the priorities are the fiscal issues and not the social issues that divide more than they unite.
GOProud’s priorities are fundamentally in line with that effort. We should not allow a purity campaign to push away natural allies on the fiscal crisis that grips our country, and the opportunity we have to correct it in 2010.
We are all stronger together, and gay conservatives are as much an ally of the conservative movement as heterosexual conservatives are. We are stronger by emphasizing our important commonalities rather than our less important differences. Fortunately, it appears the attendees at CPAC ’10 agree.
I hope that Sorba’s statements don’t represent the larger YAF group’s sentiments, but if they do, how far the group has fallen from its founding document.
Update: YAF’s Facebook page is getting a bit of an earful over the matter. For those wondering whether the Sharon Statement or YAF as an organization has a position on homosexuality, the group responds:
YAF’s guiding principles does not address gay people. YAF fights to uphold the Sharon Statement.
A specific and public disavowal of Sorba’s remarks is probably not too far behind. Stay tuned.
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KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:27 AM
You got flattery down, Romeo. lol
Nice..taking the pups out?
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:29 AM
Match Box 20-blast from the past.
Reminds me of college.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM
I don’t do drugs, I am drugs.
–Dali :)
. . .
meh, ok, score. :)
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM
Love…a game??
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM
I like how you roll….Sue me!
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:34 AM
That was grrreat! By the way – someone further up the thread called Ken “stupid”….I need to straighten this out:
Ken is NOT stupid!
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM
NO! I JUST DON’T WANT ANYONE SITTING ON HER!
O wait, those weren’t related.
My bad.
Carry on.
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM
Who said Ken was stupid?
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:37 AM
Didn’t catch that. Thanks for the correction. Troll?
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 AM
I like how you roll….Sue me!
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:34 AM
I like how you roll too.
You seem like a good man.
Who called you stupid?
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 AM
Here and now
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:39 AM
They are kind of “cracker-jacky” – but muuuuch, muuuch better
Popcorny, peanuty…..with a lot more “buttery” in the glazing plus………something Else!
Sweet and Substantial!
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:39 AM
Dunno? Figured I could scroll back and find out or spend time with you. Who is stupid? ;-)
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM
Screaming Trees – All I Know
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:42 AM
lol
– jiggles ear.
I just heard that a minute ago. Weird.
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM
hahahahaha..not u! (:
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:45 AM
B9??
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:46 AM
there you are!
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:47 AM
Speaking of Hussein’s corrupt tax cheating financiers not paying their fair share ,
(Via Drudge, in RED)
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1261720.ece
burrata on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 AM
Whitesnake – Judgement Day
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:50 AM
No – wimped out….worked
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 AM
No – wimped out….worked
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 AM
:(
Next time!
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 AM
Drops of Jupiter
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:53 AM
….you know what? i can’t find it, now………
I thought I scanned by it earlier…….but I may have dreamed it………
……or maybe there IS such a thing as “flashbacks”………
……sorry……….
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:55 AM
Whitesnake – Judgement Day
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:50 AM
Perfect..
Fits for me right now.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:56 AM
Shimmer
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:57 AM
Staying up for Ken..maybe for axe and Will too.
Dang..everyone bailed out early.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 AM
One of my guilty pleasures to like this song so much…….pop with heart!
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM
Sure did. I have staying power…
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM
That’s not what I meant. :)
Here’s the first time I ever read “I’d go and do that, but I want to be with you” –
And I meant it. :)
Here’s the second:
lol — And I Romeo meant it too. :)
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM
It is a quality jam!
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM
*And I bet Romeo . . .
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM
Meanwhile, a man who did more to get Bin Laden than Obama sits in prison… thanks to Obama.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 AM
Hair band
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 AM
you’re so sweet!……..
ALL the dudes Love you – they think you’re the COOLEST!…..and they’re RIGHT!
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM
Everyone loves B9. How can I stand out?
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:05 AM
I don’t know, man …….maybe the answer is in the video somewhere…….
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 2:07 AM
Reel men eat doritoes.
SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:09 AM
Callin it a night. Gonna hitch a ride home.
KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM
Reel men like fishing and filming.
SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM
lol!
No..not everyone loves B9.
But those with good taste do. ;)
Blush*
So sweet..thank you sincerely-guys.
Your pretty cool yourselves.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM
*crrr-unch!*
williamg on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM
– I’m out. I may be awhile. I may be ready to finish up my nuclear poof. I’ve never nuclear poofed without actually nuclear poofing, but something happened, and I lost my balance. I’ve got it back. I dunno how. I dunno how I lost it. I just work here, man. Anyway, this may be awhile.
– Note that I will be missing witchy-woman. She’s trying to change the world, you know. Mostly, she comes here to work. Anyone notices this, please try to help — I won’t be around to cross link. Probably. For awhile.
Well maybe Axe enjoyed you around. :)
Night guys. :)
(Night Sophie.)
Axe on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM
Okay, I am out too.
xoxo to y’all.
Have a blessed Sunday.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 2:11 AM
Bye sugar muffins. Lets have waffles for breakfast. I’ll bring the agave.
SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:15 AM
Tell Twerp I went fly fishing but didn’t catch any flies.
SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:15 AM
I blame those who take their bait more than I blame the attention-seeking trolls for the pollution created here – the trolls can only accomplish what they are enabled to…
Listen to Scrumpdillyicious: do narcissistic, amoral leftist scum like HAL and D(Bag)Bear ever listen, ever think, ever say anything interesting, or ever respectfully disagree?
Does anyone deny that such abusive retards are only as intelligent/wise & observant as wildebeesties #1 & #3 here? http://i.minus.com/ithiNL6EF0Y8R.gif
Why continue to circularly bicker with them? Don’t try saying that doing so makes HA a more enjoyable place to be!
Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM
Alright, who left the dang door open, there’s gonna be trolls all over this place today, Sparkplug if your the one who did it, there’s gonna be trouble……………..;-)
angrymike on May 19, 2013 at 5:10 AM
Oh, and I haven’t seen Jackie in a while, if anyone sees this tell her I said howdy, and really miss her wit…………..;-)
angrymike on May 19, 2013 at 5:16 AM
Probably good advice, but sometimes difficult to follow. It’s their cowardice which galls, safely anonymous, they will spew things that they never would if face to face at a park, in a bar, at a family function.. because hate filled stupid has consequences in real life.. but not on the web..
I’ll bite though, and personally pledge to try harder, much harder to just ignore them..
Tough though.. I’m a counter puncher by nature.
mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 AM
My response at the Post:
Well written synopsis on Mr. Balz’ part with one glaring exception/assumption on his part—”That Obama knew nothing about it”. Unless Mr. Balz is a mind-reader, this is a bold statement not supported by any facts, and based on the obvious denials from the administration. Hard to believe (in totality) that even when Democratic leaders were calling for IRS investigations into conservative organizations, that Obama “knew nothing”. In fact, with all the controversial (and possible illegal actions in several departments), it’s utterly amazing how many of them, (department heads) claim to know absolutely NOTHING about what’s going on right under their noses. If President Obama has chosen to “look the other way” to insure plausible deniability, Mr. Balz could have phrased the statement “That Mr. Obama claims to know nothing”, which would be factually correct. Big difference than what Mr. Balz has assumed to be a fact.
Rovin on May 19, 2013 at 6:13 AM
I am of the position that this kind of exercise is truly only as difficult as a person thinks it is. I will also throw out, “practice makes perfect.”
I understand what you are saying, and I hope you know that I am not personally attacking people like you – I’m just constructively reminding you how utterly stupid and childish the leftards on the other ends of these conversations are, and how non-seriously their baiting insults should be taken. :)
Oblivious morons like HAL are the equivalent of attention-starved drug addicts who are abusively in denial, and indulging their asininity wastes the time of all involved parties. Circular, pointless bickering with them only ends up getting ourselves dirty when there is no good reason for us to allow that to happen.
Since you are a counterpuncher who might appreciate this, to grasp my idea of what to and what not to do counterpunching-wise with ever-sucking blackholish trolls like HAL, look at fellow counterpuncher Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s fight vs Cotto and compare it stylistically to his more recent fight with Guerrero. Against Cotto, he failed to properly utilize his superior defensive talent/advantage, and ended up getting tagged far too much. As a smart boxer, he realized this mistake before he fought Guerrero, and masterfully corrected the error.
Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 6:29 AM
And who do you think those shareholders are? If you say “rich evil conservatives”, you be wrong. A very large number of PENSIONS are invested in the oil industry because its a good stable, long-term investment… perfect for pension funds. But what I want to know is why you hate retired teachers, firefighters and police? Why should government bureaucrats get that “fair share” tax money instead of retirees who worked hard all their lives serving others? Why do you worship government, and hate hard workers?
Also, oil companies pay far higher percentages in taxes than other companies. If you want fair, then what you want is a flat tax system where everyone pays the same percent. But I suspect what you really want is more tax UN-fairness.
dominigan on May 19, 2013 at 7:19 AM
It’s the machine behind Obama that’s well oiled and clever not Obama. He is not an elite politician but a bumbling puppet. He is not clever without his prompter so who do you credit now, him or the people that program the prompter? Articles like this are an insult to the intelligence of most people praising the narcissist who credits himself with intelligence and is deaf to anyone not in agreement with him.
mixplix on May 19, 2013 at 8:23 AM
Ryun was on Fox this morning – said he got hits from the IP address for EOP dot gov….the Executive Office of the President.
Buy Danish on May 19, 2013 at 8:28 AM
Okay, which of y’all took page 5?
Put it back!
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM
Good Sunday Mornin, u’all! let’s take a look at Obama’s History, shall we? “The Great Disconnect: The Whole, Ugly Truth About Barack Hussein Obama” My take.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM
Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 6:29 AM
I hate Star Trek, so came back here.
Wise Mr. AC. Nice boxing illustration.
HAL is one troll that I find easy to ignore.
Why? His motives are obvious..just hate filled
bombs he throws and watches the reactions in delight. I want to derive him of any pleasure he
may receive.
Pulling a rogerb- using his own words against him and a mock or a few is enough. Then I flush him.
He craves a fight and attention, simply for his own satisfaction and he usually gets it.
Just picture him behind his keyboard laughing…
that should help.
He has been on a frenzy for weeks…
Hmmm..timing..right when we had scandal after scandal breaking. Desperate.
He usually gets the thread derailed and he moves away from the topic. He also-if anyone has missed it..likes to post to posters here about their mom’s giving blow jobs and your trailer trash daughters doing the same.
Dudes a perv. He knows that will rile you up more then anything. But..many bite.
KA2 just mocks him-then casts him aside.
His sole purpose of being here is to inflame. Nothing more.
My 2 cents.
The best way to manage him? contain him.
Dude’s a lying, perv, pyscho- Time to quit feeding him. Wanna pi$$ him off? Ignore him.
He ain’t worth a shite or the time used on back and forths with him. Time is better spent with HAL blocker. Trust me. :)
Carry on.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:16 AM
?
The original, animated series, The next generation, Deep space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, The movies, 7/9, all of them?
C’mon, really?
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM
– I’m out. I may be awhile. I may be ready to finish up my nuclear poof. I’ve never nuclear poofed without actually nuclear poofing, but something happened, and I lost my balance. I’ve got it back. I dunno how. I dunno how I lost it. I just work here, man. Anyway, this may be awhile.
– Note that I will be missing witchy-woman. She’s trying to change the world, you know. Mostly, she comes here to work. Anyone notices this, please try to help — I won’t be around to cross link. Probably. For awhile.
Staying up for Ken..maybe for axe and Will too.
Dang..everyone bailed out early.
Wth does that mean? No nuclear poofing allowed.
You have been growing on me..you cant go nuclear now!
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Nope..can’t stand any of the sci-fi
stuff.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Then you miss out on some sweet eye candy.
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Then you miss out on some sweet eye candy.
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Nope..trust me..I got plenty. ;)
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM
?
What in the heck do you think I was talkin’ about?
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.
.
.
Dirty mind! Look at this link closely.
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Chicks? lol
Sorry..Sparky has ruined me.
Eh, space stuff is okay..
while I appreciate your links..
it just doesn’t get me excited.
Don’t know why.
I watched the shuttle go up a million times here..
right in my back yard..
Rocket went up the other day. It’s cool
but I just never got into it.
I did love my telescope and looking at the stars,planets,system…fascinating.
You know I am a odd ball ding bat. :)
I love Ships, subs, anything ocean related..my passion I guess.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Another world..inside the world.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Well then, you ain’t totally lost. Change anything to machine, and I’m with you.
Caspian Sea Monster
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM
And you didn’t look closely at that second link.
Though his link is broken, I keep my new website pretty well hidden.
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Caspian Sea Monster
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Now you’re talking!
That is bad ass!
ahhh..morning quality time with Coz.
I just got up..bad b9.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM
hmmm..I have a clue now.
I think I get what your saying..coupled with past convo’s we had.
Give me a break..I just woke up and I am blond. :)
Until I ingest more caffeine..”my look closely” function is a bit off, my little kozmonot.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Eh, daughter is giving a speech at church, so I’m makin’ my biannual visit to Sunday service.
Enjoy me while you have me.
Since it appears we are the only two here.
Just got it up a while back and only the first page is live.
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Out of production….
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Enjoy me while you have me.
I actually do..I know..says something about me. ;)
Really? That is odd. All the juicy stuff disappeared then..
That would be me.
“Since it appears we are the only two here.”
Cool, thanks for sharing. I understand the oz more now. I see your passion and why.
I recall our morning talk a couple months back..you were making molds.
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM
*C*
bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Its a very progressive church. One that this deist can tolerate, as long as they don’t expect me to sing.
Now if there was a way to kill that link.
Its a good thing the third page isn’t live. More than a dozen Trek kits there. And more on the way.
The Trek stuff alone pays for my evening hobby.
cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM
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