Open thread: Glenn Beck keynotes CPAC; Update: CPAC straw poll won by … Ron Paul
posted at 5:24 pm on February 20, 2010 by Allahpundit
6 p.m. ET on Fox News, although you may want to tune in a few minutes early: The hot rumor circulating on bloggers’ row is that Sarahcuda might swing by to introduce him.
This is the rare CPAC speech that’s genuinely unpredictable, with Beck claiming last night on his show that he hadn’t decided yet what he was going to say. Palin and Rubio spent the past week using their cred among tea partiers to nudge them towards uniting behind the GOP (provided the GOP reorients itself towards smaller government, of course); if there’s going to be any pushback to that message, it’ll come from Beck tonight. And why shouldn’t it? He’ll never have a better opportunity to speak directly to the Republican/conservative establishment than this. If he truly believes third parties are the way to go, at least in the short term, let ‘er rip and make the case. Why, he’s even got a handy news peg available to help make the point.
Erick Erickson calls it his “coming-out party” within the conservative movement, although depending upon how bareknuckle he gets with Republican bigwigs, it could be a short party. Stand by for video afterwards. The thread is open.
Update: Romney won the straw poll the last three years but the Paulnuts had their act together this time. For one evening, the three-percent rEVOLution is a 31 percent rEVOLution:
Ron Paul has ended Mitt Romney’s three-year run as conservatives’ favorite for president, taking 31 percent of the vote in the Conservative Political Action Conference’s annual straw poll.
Paul, a Republican congressman from Texas known for his libertarian views, ran for president in 2008 but was never a serious contender for the GOP nomination…
The straw poll is not binding — and not necessarily a good forecaster, given that in 2008, John McCain went on to take the party’s nomination over Romney.
Romney came second with 22 percent and Palin finished third with seven percent. Yet another reminder that the wisdom of “insiders” ain’t always that wise.
Is the huge Paulnut contingent in the seats tonight good news or bad news for Beck?
Blowback
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I guess Rush figures anyone he would whip 10 – 1 in an election must not be worth talking about. Talk about denial.
Jaibones on February 21, 2010 at 12:18 AM
Got a few living down the road from me and their aims seem to be having no law at all. They object to the zoning, they object to the laws governing shooting within so many yards of people’s homes, they object to the drug laws(and not just the pot), they think they can play loud music all night even if it does keep the whole neighborhood awake, they pretty much want to do whatever they want to do and the law doesn’t apply to them–don’t know if they are typical, but they sure give Libertarianism a bad name around here.
jeanie on February 21, 2010 at 12:20 AM
I wouldn’t say the Tea Party folks are racist. But I share your disappointment about the right.
AshleyTKing on February 21, 2010 at 12:24 AM
As oppose to racist in the Democrat, Republican or any other party, or maybe the White and Black community in general? What are you talking about? I’ve been to many of the tea parties and have never seen even a hint of racism.
whbates on February 21, 2010 at 12:27 AM
I was thinking you can probably thank the Bircher contingent for Ron Paul, but 31%? I don’t know how the straw poll works — how were the Paulnuts able to stack the vote like that?
RightOFLeft on February 21, 2010 at 12:31 AM
Fox made the point that the voting was away from the main venue, there weren’t that many voting booths, and folks had to wait on line to vote.
indypat on February 21, 2010 at 12:37 AM
RightOFLeft,
Google Young Americans for Liberty. It’s an alternative to the college republicans, and it’s roughly the same size nation wide.
The reason Ron Paul won was because the YAL attended the event.
Spathi on February 21, 2010 at 12:38 AM
A Cali twit whining about mythical racism and supporting the goat fvcker. People from Cali are just beyond imagination. Most of them have never even seen a black person besides the Cosby show.
ClassicCon on February 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM
Watch, if — and this is a big IF — Ron Paul gets the nomination, those same sites are going to start trashing him and calling him a racist, which he is. I actually might start supporting Ron Paul…just to see the face of that useful idiot when he realizes that the left no longer has any use for him.
Narutoboy on February 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM
More people voted in this CPAC than any previous year. It was a record number.
So you can say it means nothing, but that means CPAC never means anyway.
I think the Iowa Straw poll will mean more of course. We need to be organized early this time.
Spathi on February 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM
Have to agree with the folks above who are finding parts of the far right as obnoxious as the far left. If the tea party movement evolves into a haven or instrument for the nuttier elements of the right, then I shall regret ever having played even my small part in it’s development.
jeanie on February 21, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Video of people having fun at the C4L booth
Spathi on February 21, 2010 at 12:43 AM
Just for kicks I found out this interesting tidbit of information concerning Andy’s Agoura Hills:
As of the census[14] of 2000, there were 20,537 people, 6,874 households, and 5,588 families residing in the city. The population density was 969.4/km² (2,511.8/mi²). There were 6,993 housing units at an average density of 330.1/km² (855.3/mi²). The racial makeup of the city was 86.96% White, 1.32% Black or African American,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…exactly like I thought. Just more self-loathing honkeys in their ivory towers.
ClassicCon on February 21, 2010 at 12:45 AM
Interesting trend going on in this thread. Suddenly the teabaggers are all cross-burning, nazi according to enlightened ones like jeanie here.
ClassicCon on February 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM
Amen!
Remember what he did the night of the RNC Nominating Convention. He held his own “presidential” rally for himself , in the same city!!!!!!
Lothar on February 21, 2010 at 12:50 AM
So to sum up: Paul won the youth, Romney won the party hacks, and Palin won the Abortion uber alles crowd.
Speedwagon82 on February 21, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Might as well move to Spain.
AshleyTKing on February 21, 2010 at 1:01 AM
Exactly. It’s not just party loyalty. Its also what’s best for America. Sarah Palin would never run third party because she knows that will ensure a win for the left. So she would step aside for the good of the country. Ron Paul has no such allegiance. He is an egostistical man who always blames America first. He blames the US, he blames Israel. Never do I see him blaming Islamic countries for terrorism, the cowardly weasel.
atheling on February 21, 2010 at 1:01 AM
Please do.
atheling on February 21, 2010 at 1:02 AM
You’re such a superficial twit. You, like the Donks, have to use the identity politics schtick.
atheling on February 21, 2010 at 1:04 AM
Those people are not libertarian. They are libertine.
atheling on February 21, 2010 at 1:05 AM
If the best the GOP can come up with are Paul, Romney, or Palin then there won’t be much difference between the welfare states of Europe and this country.
AshleyTKing on February 21, 2010 at 1:11 AM
Sorry folks, I watched Glen’s speech and had to run out to a company party. I don’t want to mess up any conversations here but HOW ABOUT THAT SPEECH!
conservnut on February 21, 2010 at 1:12 AM
Way to go, Paulnuts. You just made the conservative movement the laughingstock of the world.
Tennman on February 21, 2010 at 1:15 AM
That makes more sense now, thanks.
RightOFLeft on February 21, 2010 at 1:16 AM
Early to bed
Early to rise
Work like hell
And Organize!!
JohnGalt23 on February 21, 2010 at 1:21 AM
George W. Bush changed his name to Paulnuts?
The Dean on February 21, 2010 at 1:28 AM
Anyone would lose to Ron Paul when the Paulbots swarm like annoying flies and artificially inflate online and real life polls.
I’d like to see a poll where Paultards can’t manipulate the ballots by and see if they can really win.
Conservative Samizdat on February 21, 2010 at 1:31 AM
Believe me, I have friends that attended CPAC and there is no way in a million years they would have voted, nor did they vote for Ron Paul. They say there were many ways the Paulnuts that were there could have voted in the poll enough to show an unearned win in a straw poll.
As I have been told many times during my 20 years of being a GOP activist, straw polls mean nothing.
I think Beck did a good job as I was afraid he would be a lot more critical of Conservatives and Republicans, but it was not nearly as bad as I expected. I still think Rush did a better job, and that it was Rush who awakened me from my Super Doomsday-Election 2008 coma to get back in the game of Conservative politics.
margategop517 on February 21, 2010 at 1:38 AM
CPAC just lost ALL credibility…
… I mean come on.. RON PAUL?!??!?!?
He has got to be the biggest whackjob in congress. Hell, he makes Andrew Sullivan seem downright sane, and Alex Jones seem not quite so bad…
Wolftech on February 21, 2010 at 1:39 AM
Best comment in the thread.
Spathi on February 21, 2010 at 1:54 AM
George W. Bush was a conservative?
ClassicCon on February 21, 2010 at 2:00 AM
Are you fvcking serious?
SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 2:08 AM
If more people voted now, then that means all the other year of voting have been just as worthless. I will be doing all I can to make sure Paul does not have a good showing in Iowa…
lovingmyUSA on February 21, 2010 at 2:11 AM
Count me as another one who’d sit this one out if Dr. Tinfoil got the nomination. Not that he would.
I’m dreading who CPAC thinks the tent is big enough for next year.
Is Stormfront busy?
SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM
Only amongst the trolls…
lovingmyUSA on February 21, 2010 at 2:16 AM
Rumor has it Ron Paul’s supporters are going to write him in for American Idol next season.
Those crazy kids.
Potfry on February 21, 2010 at 2:25 AM
Ron Paul!? really?
COMPLETELY INSANE!!
Great_Red_Dragon on February 21, 2010 at 2:36 AM
Like Goldwater before him, Ron Paul is building an army to outlive him. Read this blurb from NRO. The conservatives addicted to Wilsonian foreign policy are dying out:
Pitchforker on February 21, 2010 at 2:53 AM
Ron Paul is no Barry Goldwater.
Not. Even. Close.
SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 3:03 AM
From the video’s you posted, the crowd seemed mostly enthusiastic. Similar to Pitchforker’s above description.
disillusioned on February 21, 2010 at 3:05 AM
Actually, Goldwater and Paul are much more similar than you think. The following was written by Senator Goldwater in 1979:
Pitchforker on February 21, 2010 at 3:09 AM
They could be screaming and fainting like it’s 1964 and Ron Paul is the Beatles and it wouldn’t make him any less of a crazy douche.
SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 3:14 AM
I like Romney. I have hopes for him. BUT, he has not convinced me that he understands low spending as well as low taxes. He has not come out for small government, real small government instead of token 1% decreases here and there. When he does, and he convinces me he means it, I’ll support him. Until then nobody put forward so far fills that bill, except people who are not running or that terminal half intellectually blind Ron Paul.
Can somebody rouse Forbes again?
{^_^}
herself on February 21, 2010 at 3:14 AM
Lol, no, he has common sense. Something Paul lacks profoundly when it comes to foreign policy.
atheling on February 21, 2010 at 3:18 AM
What did Bin Laden say again? I want to bankrupt the United States in wars of attrition halfway around the world. Looks like Bin Laden was the wise man.
Pitchforker on February 21, 2010 at 3:23 AM
The difference is that Goldwater had a cogent political philosophy grounded very much in REALITY and subject to honest self criticism.
Ron Paul is a pork swilling hypocrite with the charisma of a pedophile, and delusions of grandeur that attracts a cult-like following among fellow paranoiacs.
SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 3:24 AM
Like Goldwater, Paul is unflinching in his principles. Paul has decided to forego his congressional pension because he has something rare in Congress these days,
I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y. He’s a devout constitutionalist, who like Goldwater was opposed to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Secondly, like Goldwater, Paul isn’t afraid to rile up controversy by telling the truth. Goldwater did this at the convention with his famous “extremism” line, and Paul has no problems calling out his fellow republicans for being traitors to the cause. The republican establishment has alienated Paul for years for dare discussing the pitfalls of our reckless monetary policy led by the cantankerous Federal Reserve. And what do you know in 2010? The so-called “nutjob” has been validated by the shenanigans of Alan Greenspan and the rest of the greedy financial cabal.
Pitchforker on February 21, 2010 at 3:31 AM
Well, so much for 2012, and 2010 for that matter. If any proof were needed that CPAC is a BAG OF ASS, it’s been provided in some of the more recent threads here. To wit:
1. Glenn Beck. Why is this man(child) being given a public forum to speak to a roomful of supposed adults? Is Rush in the hospital again? Millions of women in full-on PMS rage are more rational and stable than this guy is on the night of the new moon.
2. Ron Paul. Anti-semitic nativist crank, Pat Buchanan’s stand-in, whatever. DIAF.
3. GOProud, GOPoke, GOPervs, etc. Hard to know exactly whether these reps of a tiny sliver of a tiny minority outnumber the Paulbots or not. Even harder to know what great gains at the ballot box will be made by catering to a few thousand people from a group whose number one priority is its identity politics, and the large majority of whom will always vote Democrat.
The very fact that CPAC attracts any attention at all from people who identify as conservative is proof of how bankrupt we are of leaders who can articulate our principles and values.
Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 3:44 AM
The first step before deciding which candidate to support in a Republican Primary, should be to Google the candidate’s name + “Ron Paul” to see what, if any, connections they may have.
The candidate’s who call themselves “Liberty Republicans” are part of Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty.
Check the right side of this web page for a preliminary list of Ron Paul candidates who are running in 2010.
http://www.dailypaul.com/
We all need to be informed voters in 2010!
wren on February 21, 2010 at 3:54 AM
Oh you betcha. Why should I vote for a man who thinks I’m a war criminal? Why would I vote for a man whose ideas of National Defense are self-admittedly straight out of the 1800th Century? Why would anyone vote for an anti-Semite when our biggest ally in the ME is Israel? (Why would anyone vote for an anti-Semite)?
I would support Romney, Jindal, Palin, Giuliana or Brown (In no particular order. I would “even” support a ticket with Joe Lieberman rather than vote for Paul. (I just wouldn’t vote for the ticket if Paul were on it; even the bottom of the ticket)
If you came to where I voted and held a gun to my head, I would tell that I’d vote for him and then still skip the top of the ticket once I was in the booth by myself.
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:22 AM
Is that a selling point?
SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 4:25 AM
SCBradley, hawkdriver, and especially Ed Snyder:
I think I’m in love!
I’ve had enough of Ron Paul love today to last a lifetime.
(I loathe him and hate his politics.)
Thank God you brought some common sense to the table!
God bless you all.
Jenfidel on February 21, 2010 at 4:30 AM
Right, so we can telegraph to the Dems what a landslide it’s going to be. Paul will “never” win the general election. These stepping stones to party power you in the middle advocate are serving no one but the liberals.
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:35 AM
Seven pages of comments on this idiot Ron Paul…holy crap!
What the hell is wrong with you Ronulans? The ONLY way you ever win a poll is by jobbing it. You either pull BS like at CPAC or robovote the hell out of online polls.
Now that is fine for astroturf, and you might actually convince stupid people it’s for real……but O-M-G how is it you believe your own hype?
Ron Paul sits back and laughs his ass off at you idiots. All you do is raise money so he can be a worthless congressman from Texas. A pork eating, earmarking, worthless congressman.
This guy won what…ZERO delegates in 2008? WTF makes you think that will change EVER?
The day this nation becomes stupid enough to nominate a loon like Ron Paul is the day I leave.
O-M-G!
gary4205 on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 AM
SCBradley you have a way with words and you are 100% right about Ron Paul.
PollyTix101 on February 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM
Thanks Jen.
I say we do like the Dems and “Ralph Nader” his ass. Their team of crack conspiracy theorists come up with the same garbage anyway.
HARDBALL!
Black Panthers and SEIU thugs at every primary engagement. (Okay, that’s too much)
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM
I don’t agree with Ed Snyder on CPAC as a whole. I watched a good deal of the speeches and presentations and a majority of them focused on what the American people are most concerned with right now: the economy, jobs, smaller government, and individual liberty. Sure there are a few nutcases thrown in, but that is the same for any group. Overall, those at CPAC championed the principles which our founding fathers stood for and the American people demand our leaders uphold.
PollyTix101 on February 21, 2010 at 4:47 AM
One last thing. How in Gods good name can a Ron Paul supporter say that the man is a strict Constitutionalist when he can’t even get past the preamble without defying it?
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:49 AM
My second comment at 4:44 was in response to gary4205 on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 AM.
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:51 AM
Never in my life have I seen a celebration of a pre-season scrimmage game…no, make that a practice scrimmage. It becomes especially bizarre when we’re taking bets on a Super Bowl three years out.
anuts on February 21, 2010 at 5:02 AM
My vote for QOTD.
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 5:06 AM
Thank you, Jen.
I followed wren’s link. That right side is revealing, alright. For example, why links to sites run by foreigners who are Paul followers? Since when does any real American patriot and conservative give a rat’s hairy ass about what other people think of us? Isn’t that the stock in trade of John Kerry and other East Coast establishmentarian elites, as it was during Kerry’s campaign in 2004?
And if you want to get a taste of the man’s lunacy straight from his mouth, follow the Speeches and Statements link. Or don’t.
Thanks for a very civil and thoughtful disagreement, Polly. I have mostly followed the goings on via HA, so I take you at your word. The problem is that between the spending of the Bush administration, the gross mismanagement of OIF for the first three years by Rumsfeld, and a cubic butt ton of scandals, the conservative brand has a lot of credibility ground to make up, and the nutcases are not helpful at all. We need to jettison them. And we absolutely do not need to “enlarge the tent” by welcoming a group that self-identifies primarily by sexual perverson that will gain us a few thousand voters at best while alienating many, many times more.
Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 5:35 AM
Any organization that allows itself to endorse a bigoted, paranoid, anti-semite such as Ron Paul, has jumped the shark. CPAC is totally irrelevent. This is the last straw for me. Between this, the JBS inclusion and the racists in the Tea Party, I’m not so sure Charles Johnson is wrong about the conservative movement anymore. So I hate the left and now I hate the right. Who’s left?
Andy in Agoura Hills on February 21, 2010 at 12:08 AM
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I don’t see any evidence that Tea Party folks are any more racist than any other groups, but I agree in as much as this Grover Norquist // Ron Paul // Foxnews love for the isolationist anti-Israel crowd is just too much to take.
It is very, very sad.
georgealbert on February 21, 2010 at 6:49 AM
Proof? Or do you just use that word against anyone who doesn’t have their tongue in Israel’s ear?
Mark Jaquith on February 21, 2010 at 7:45 AM
Ron Paul is nuts and so are his supporters. Don´t call them conservatives.
el gordo on February 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM
Maybe it’s because I haven’t paid enough attention to him, but Ron Paul doesn’t bother me that much (so long as he doesn’t make a third party run). Bottom line for me is, as Ann Coulter said, I agree with what he stands for outside of foreign policy.
As for Beck’s speech, it started off a little choppy but ended as a home run.
petefrt on February 21, 2010 at 8:30 AM
Ron Paul is to conservatives what William Shatner is to Star Trek… a lot of fans, but not taken seriously until he turns into Denny Crane
mdgwiz on February 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM
Ron Paul is no Barry Goldwater.
Not. Even. Close.
But I suppose Mitt Romney, with his socialist healthcare for Massatwos*its social p’og’am is? Or isn’t it just the case that, once again, the GOP will nominate the guy (or broad) who will take them to socialism a little slower? Bob Dole said in a debate with Bill Clinton in the ’96 election that his opponent wanted government to grow by 20% over the next four years, while he only wanted it to grow by 14%.
Is the slow path to hell cooler, or is it better to stay off of that path?
I suppose that’s your decision, but I guaran-G*d damn-tee that Mitt Romney will not reduce the size of government, or even make an attempt, if elected president.
RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 8:52 AM
…and the “movement” starts to crumble.
NoStoppingUs on February 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM
They must not have asked him if 9-11 was America’s fault
aikidoka on February 21, 2010 at 8:58 AM
It’s bad news for all of us. Great way for CPAC to be taken less seriously and simply viewed as a nutbag convention, imo.
Midas on February 21, 2010 at 9:07 AM
You haven’t been paying attention to his past writing and work and news about him, I see. Blindly following him like Obama followers do to Obama.
Interesting choice of words there as well, Mark. You say much about yourself there…
Midas on February 21, 2010 at 9:09 AM
It sure ruins CPAC’s credibility! Did GOProud stuff the ballot box?
Christian Conservative on February 21, 2010 at 9:15 AM
The Salon is going nutty over CPAC. For some reason this stirred them up…me not so much.
Beck brings the crazy
The TV star wrapped up CPAC with a vintage tour of paranoid history and melodrama
Mike Madden
*
Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
*
Yuck it up, CPACers, the joke’s on you
*
Mark Sanford visits CPAC, professes no plans
http://www.salon.com/
Dr Evil on February 21, 2010 at 9:22 AM
We’ve already got one whackjob in the WH. Why in the name of good sense would we want to elect another? Why don’t we just dig up Father Caughlin, stuff him, and put him in there? Same thing. CPAC will have to put armed guards at their voting booths next year to keep this corruption from happening again.
kingsjester on February 21, 2010 at 9:25 AM
…and the “movement” starts to crumble.
NoStoppingUs on February 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM
If you’re talking about the GOP, you left out one word; bowel. As in bowel movement. That’s what the “conservatives” in the GOP are, one great big turd waiting to drop on the floor. A turd filled with socialism and big gubmint greetings for all the sheep who want to be fed by the big government tit, then retreat to their homes and marvel at what good conservatives they are.
RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 9:25 AM
We’ve already got one whackjob in the WH. Why in the name of good sense would we want to elect another? Why don’t we just dig up Father Caughlin, stuff him, and put him in there? Same thing. CPAC will have to put armed guards at their voting booths next year to keep this corruption from happening again.
kingsjester on February 21, 2010 at 9:25 AM
You’re right. How a socialist like Romney could have finished second is a travesty.
RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM
RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM
I don’t care for either of them. Romney is Bob Dole the sequel. Squishiness will not win the Presidency. Neither will a nutjob anti-semite isolationist.
kingsjester on February 21, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Well, CPAC spoke out loudly about the notion of running Romney.
The GOP can do that, of course. And it’ll be another snub from voters, I predict.
The country isn’t in the mood for the same ole’ ‘hit on a shingle served up as change.
AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM
CPAC was full of lefty bloggers and ‘journalists’. I wonder if any participated in the voting?
sonnyspats1 on February 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM
For example. If the system be established on basis of Income, and his just proportion on that scale has been already drawn from every one, to step into the field of Consumption, and tax special articles in that, as broadcloth or homespun, wine or whiskey, a coach or a wagon, is doubly taxing the same article. For that portion of Income with which these articles are purchased, having already paid its tax as Income, to pay another tax on the thing it purchased, is paying twice for the same thing; it is an aggrievance on the citizens who use these articles in exoneration of those who do not, contrary to the most sacred of the duties of a government, to do equal and impartial justice to all its citizens.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM
Don Young Congressman from Alaska put what Glenn Beck said pretty simply he said the answer is deregulation.
http://www.ktva.com/ci_14434574
Dr Evil on February 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM
And what has Ron Paul actually done to reduce the size of government in his 20+ years?
Nothing.
In fact, the only accomplishment he’s had in all those years, was to score over a Billion dollars in pork for his district. Which increased the size of government.
Anyone thinking Paul is fiscally conservative, small government, or for the Constitution – you all have been played for fools and worse. Suckers.
Wake up.
Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM
Well, so much for 2012, and 2010 for that matter. If any proof were needed that CPAC is a BAG OF ASS, it’s been provided in some of the more recent threads here. To wit:
1. Glenn Beck. Why is this man(child) being given a public forum to speak to a roomful of supposed adults? Is Rush in the hospital again? Millions of women in full-on PMS rage are more rational and stable than this guy is on the night of the new moon.
2. Ron Paul. Anti-semitic nativist crank, Pat Buchanan’s stand-in, whatever. DIAF.
3. GOProud, GOPoke, GOPervs, etc. Hard to know exactly whether these reps of a tiny sliver of a tiny minority outnumber the Paulbots or not. Even harder to know what great gains at the ballot box will be made by catering to a few thousand people from a group whose number one priority is its identity politics, and the large majority of whom will always vote Democrat.
The very fact that CPAC attracts any attention at all from people who identify as conservative is proof of how bankrupt we are of leaders who can articulate our principles and values.
Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 3:44 AM
Can someone please tell me why Liberals always love to tell Conservatives how to think, act and run their party?
Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM
I think it’s a good sign that CPAC didn’t go, yet again, with the same ole loser, Romney.
Seriously, what are people thinking? That somehow Romney is going to transform himself into electable by magic?
That guy is the quintessential politician who looks like he’s got potential, but he’s never really lived up to it.
LOL*
He hasn’t said “boo” during the most interesting time in conservative recent history. And he’s the one the regular GOP wants?
I hope real voters ignore them.
AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Blah, Blah, Blah, RP didn’t run third party after he lost the nomination. Do you really think we should spend our blood and treasure nation building, especially when we are not getting anything (oil) out of the deal? Maybe we would have won the election if we would have nominated an actual conservative instead of the turncoat McCain. We need to hold those in the Republican party accountable, which is what the Tea party movement is all about.
nazo311 on February 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM
I challenge you to name one earmark he’s voted for.
nazo311 on February 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM
He’s the one the MSM wants to choose for us. I’m pretty confident republican primary voters won’t let that happen.
Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Seriously, what are people thinking? That somehow Romney is going to transform himself into electable by magic? AnninCA
I think people are thinking the country needs someone who knows how to run a company to run our country. We have had enough of politicians with pseudo-intellectual theory about how things work.
Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM
LOL WHUT?
Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM
How someone runs a company is about as relevant as how they run a campaign, and that’s not much.
Look at the record of actually governing. Then you get a clear spotlight on what’s headed your way.
Romney is absolutely the same ole’ GOP.
No thanks.
AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM
The Rushtards in general are in denial, they think the movement belongs to them when they were the ones cheerleading the spending during Bush’s admin. I fully admit I was a participant during that time as well. I’m not a Paul guy but he should be allowed a voice in whatever coalition comes of the current conservative unrest. I do love the frothing at the mouth of the Rushtards whenever his name is mentioned though, lol.
I find it odd that GOPers will attack an American over his criticism of a foreign nation – Israel.
Im always amazed at how effective The Rush’s conditioning is. He has everyone here focused on supporting whatever the GOP will force down your throat. I can relate since I was there once myself. It’s quite amusing.
True_King on February 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM
And this Frum guy?
AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM
I saw the CPAC vote as simply a move towards change.
That’s healthy.
AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 10:08 AM
He doesn’t have the honesty or integrity to vote for his pork. He puts earmarks in the bills, then votes against them, knowing that the bills are going to pass regardless. Hypocrisy of the first order.
The bottom line is: he has scored over a Billion dollars in taxpayers money – pure unadulterated pork – to buy his seat. Follow the money – find a typical career politician porkbarreling, and more than most.
For that Billion dollars, he has failed to pass a single law reducing the size of government – or any law on anything – a new record of failure for a 20+ year career politician. All Ron Paul is good for, is showing up once in a while to put his earmarks in, then bashing the republican party on the MSM whenever they need a crank to smear the GOP.
Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Frum is the very definition of a MSM media squishy RINO. If he endorses a candidate you know there’s something wrong with them.
Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:12 AM
The bottom line is: he has scored over a Billion dollars in taxpayers money – pure unadulterated pork – to buy his seat. Follow the money – find a typical career politician porkbarreling, and more than most.
For that Billion dollars, he has failed to pass a single law reducing the size of government – or any law on anything – a new record of failure for a 20+ year career politician. All Ron Paul is good for, is showing up once in a while to put his earmarks in, then bashing the republican party on the MSM whenever they need a crank to smear the GOP.
Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Hate to be a we told you about Paul…BUT WE TOLD YOU SO!
BobAnthony on February 21, 2010 at 10:19 AM
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