Open thread: Glenn Beck keynotes CPAC; Update: CPAC straw poll won by … Ron Paul

posted at 5:24 pm on February 20, 2010 by Allahpundit

6 p.m. ET on Fox News, although you may want to tune in a few minutes early: The hot rumor circulating on bloggers’ row is that Sarahcuda might swing by to introduce him.

This is the rare CPAC speech that’s genuinely unpredictable, with Beck claiming last night on his show that he hadn’t decided yet what he was going to say. Palin and Rubio spent the past week using their cred among tea partiers to nudge them towards uniting behind the GOP (provided the GOP reorients itself towards smaller government, of course); if there’s going to be any pushback to that message, it’ll come from Beck tonight. And why shouldn’t it? He’ll never have a better opportunity to speak directly to the Republican/conservative establishment than this. If he truly believes third parties are the way to go, at least in the short term, let ‘er rip and make the case. Why, he’s even got a handy news peg available to help make the point.

Erick Erickson calls it his “coming-out party” within the conservative movement, although depending upon how bareknuckle he gets with Republican bigwigs, it could be a short party. Stand by for video afterwards. The thread is open.

Update: Romney won the straw poll the last three years but the Paulnuts had their act together this time. For one evening, the three-percent rEVOLution is a 31 percent rEVOLution:

Ron Paul has ended Mitt Romney’s three-year run as conservatives’ favorite for president, taking 31 percent of the vote in the Conservative Political Action Conference’s annual straw poll.

Paul, a Republican congressman from Texas known for his libertarian views, ran for president in 2008 but was never a serious contender for the GOP nomination…

The straw poll is not binding — and not necessarily a good forecaster, given that in 2008, John McCain went on to take the party’s nomination over Romney.

Romney came second with 22 percent and Palin finished third with seven percent. Yet another reminder that the wisdom of “insiders” ain’t always that wise.

Is the huge Paulnut contingent in the seats tonight good news or bad news for Beck?


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Again please show proof of you claim.

Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Which claim – the very well know porkbareling of Paul, or that he’s never passed a bill in 20+ years, also very well known?

Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM

And what has Ron Paul actually done to reduce the size of government in his 20+ years?

What could you expect that a single voice in the wilderness could accomplish, especially with the faeggot, squishy, GOP congressmen he’s had to deal with?
And I’ll counter by asking what the GOP as a whole has done to reduce the size of government in the last 100 years?

NOTHING!!!!!

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Frum is the very definition of a MSM media squishy RINO. If he endorses a candidate you know there’s something wrong with them.

Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Yup. Same deal with the other David (NYT’s Brooks). I’d dump Peggy Noonan in that category as well. Ever since she opined that Dubya’s Second Inaugural was too religious for her delicate sensibilities–and got lol’ed and/or ignored for it, she’s been sinking deeper and deeper into her bitter, demented spinsterhood, using her WSJ column to damn every worthwhile conservative cause with faint praise.

Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 10:26 AM

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM

So you admit Paul has accomplished nothing in 20+ years, progress.

Now embrace Paul’s hypocritical porkbarreling, and you’ll be on the road to recovery.

Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM

What could you expect that a single voice in the wilderness could accomplish, especially with the faeggot, squishy, GOP congressmen he’s had to deal with?
And I’ll counter by asking what the GOP as a whole has done to reduce the size of government in the last 100 years?

NOTHING!!!!!

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM

If you’re going to be ban-hammered for something you should spellcheck it. (I know, I’m the worst)

hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Which claim – the very well know porkbareling of Paul, or that he’s never passed a bill in 20+ years, also very well known?

Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Both

Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM

I still have not figured out the quote thingy. Sorry, any help?

Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:30 AM

If you’re going to be ban-hammered for something you should spellcheck it. (I know, I’m the worst)

hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM

RWLA needs moar coffee. And a dictionary.

Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Since we are talking about the King of Tin Foil hat crowd(RP).
How about this thought. Maybe RP and some of his followers have been deep captured by the left to monkey wrench the conservative movement. Sort of like Hoovers FBI unit in the 60′s to infiltrate the Panthers,Weathermen, etc to discredit them and make them pariahs to mainstream America. I can see Obama,Clinton,Carville,Emanuel,Soros pulling something like this. Put than in your conspiracy theories and smoke it.

Hummer53 on February 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM

I still have not figured out the quote thingy. Sorry, any help?

Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Highlight whatever you want to quote and then click the quote button at the top of the text window.

hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Both

Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM

These issues are common knowledge, perhaps you should do a little investigating before accepting someone as your cult-leader:

Paul’s congressional district also has been among the top in Texas in receipt of federal assistance since 2000, receiving $31 billion from Washington, according to a study by the group OMB Watch. In the first nine months of the 2006 fiscal year, the district received $4 billion in federal aid.

http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2007/12/russert-exposes-ron-paul-earmark.html
31 Billion dollars – and counting. Yup, gotta love that small government, right?

As for his bills, you can start here:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000583/

Rebar on February 21, 2010 at 10:49 AM

I don’t think the personality is relevant.

I think the direction is relevant.

It’s anybody BUT standard-issue Romney.

He wins 3 years and loses this year.

That’s relevant.

AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM

If you’re going to be ban-hammered for something you should spellcheck it. (I know, I’m the worst)

hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM

RWLA needs moar coffee. And a dictionary.

Ed Snyder on February 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM

It was spelled incorrectly intentionally. I know that most of the tender ears here can’t handle the truth, and certain words keep posts from appearing. I was assuming that the “f” word for homo’s would be one of those words.

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM

I think the Iowa Straw poll will mean more of course. We need to be organized early this time.

Spathi on February 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Iowa voted for Huckabee. Pretty hard to say that means anything.

Speedwagon82 on February 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Glenn Beck changes his tune conforming with whatever direction the wind of profit blows. His strongest fans should note well his mish-mashed track record on every serious topic; ex. this month’s raving NEOconservative Beck was the raving 9/11 Truther only 6 months ago, failing to admit his own transition while conducting a witch hunt to smear Constitutional Conservatives; failing to note this last week his hypocrisy when admitting that he was wrong to smear Debra Medina.

Palin as well as Beck are on record (youtube) as supporting new government investigations into 9/11.

Palin is on record this past month endorsing Ron Paul for his economic record representing American conservative values.

Allahpundit is on record this past week endorsing neoconservatism by name, which clarifies his prejudiced antagonism against Ron Paul whom Michelle Malkin incorrectly launched the smear campaign to tag Paul as an anti-semite for not supporting Capitol Hill’s Israeli Lobby receiving federal funding for Zionist Expansion of territories.

If all it takes to be an antisemite is to vote against funding Zionist expansion of Israeli territory, then Israelis who vote against Zionist expansion are antisemites–that proves the foolishness to judge accordingly.

It is incorrect to participate in extending the smear campaign against Paul as an antisemite because of Paul’s conservative economic record. Rep. Ron Paul has never launched anti-Jewish legislation, nor has he ever ruled against the Constitutional Rights of American Jews, nor has he sponsored any anti-semitic legislation that would persecute Jews.

This twisted hate mongering was also used historically against our first American Presidents for not endorsing or funding the Socialist instigated French Revolution(s), tagging American isolationism as anti-French bigotry. [By the way, each of the serial Socialist French Revolutions were always fought PRIOR to any federation's constitutional composition, enabling the socialist revolutionaries to assassinate and murder entire populations within France simply for not agreeing with the most powerful leaders' agenda or perverted tactics.] The American hate mongers smeared and threatened our early presidents [closest current representation: libertarians] as ungrateful revolutionaries for not siding against the Monarchy that funded our own revolution which began with our Declaration of Independence and Colonial turned independent Continental Congressional Articles of Confederation (1777-81) following the Continental Congress authorization of states’ rights as each of the 13 colonies was to form its own local (provincial) government. The Articles provided the national alliance that won the Revolutionary War against the British Empire and Monarchy that had stripped Americans of free trade, having stripped Americans the right to produce their own goods, and mandating taxation on ALL PRODUCTS SOLD all taxes going to fund England, none to provide for American colonial interests. Later means to effectively tax and implement the nation’s legislation and maintain national unity came in the Constitution with LIMITED AND SEPARATE FEDERAL POWERS, ratified in 1789.

This past century has witnessed federally elected and appointed government officials who completely disregard the Constitution’s supremacy, actually holding in contempt the very foundation of our Constitutional Republic. This new century has witnessed the complete merger of major party socialists exposed for similarly and separately dissolving the integrity of our Constitutional Government, and our Constitutional Rights.

American voters who distrust both of the major parties for their corruptions and broken promises have good reason to support Constitutional Conservative Tea Party candidates who are working to stabilize our government that is out of control in the hands of socialist interests.

The Tea Party candidates will secure the relevance of our Constitution as the nation’s sovereign law, and rescind power from “tenured” politicians invested in their own corrupt power grabs for profit at the taxpayers’ expense, and promoted by GOP neoconservatives and Marxist Democrats alike.

maverick muse on February 21, 2010 at 12:06 PM

x

maverick muse on February 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM

We have had enough of politicians with pseudo-intellectual theory about how things work.

Grayzel on February 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM

We also have had enough of a politician who endorses wacky conspiracy theories and takes money from those who believe in such conspiracy theories.

Please, we need a politician who is sane, pragmatic, smart and has real world experience. Not someone who gets his donations from 9-11 conspiracy freaks.

Conservative Samizdat on February 21, 2010 at 12:46 PM

If all it takes to be an antisemite is to vote against funding Zionist expansion of Israeli territory, then Israelis who vote against Zionist expansion are antisemites–that proves the foolishness to judge accordingly.

maverick muse on February 21, 2010 at 12:06 PM

Morocco claims the Western Sahara and they receive money and weapons from the US, and are an ally. No one cares! What about Turkey and the Armenians?

Why should anyone care what a smaller country like Israel does who also receives money, arms, and is an ally?

What is the strange fascination with Israel?

Is it just that the Arabs don’t like them, or us by proxy? They have never liked us and that has been going on for close to 1,400 years. I don’t think it will change anytime soon.

sharrukin on February 21, 2010 at 1:06 PM

maverick muse on February 21, 2010 at 12:06 PM

Epic post there, my friend.

Too bad this thread has mostly run it’s course and posters are going elsewhere…I’d love to watch another round of circle-squaring mental gymnastics. They’re almost as entertaining as the Olympics!

Dark-Star on February 21, 2010 at 1:10 PM

I was assuming that the “f” word for homo’s would be one of those words.

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM

LOOK! It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No. It’s SUPER DOUCHE!

“Here I come to call you gay!”

SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM

The Rushtards in general are in denial, they think the movement belongs to them when they were the ones cheerleading the spending during Bush’s admin. I fully admit I was a participant during that time as well. I’m not a Paul guy but he should be allowed a voice in whatever coalition comes of the current conservative unrest. I do love the frothing at the mouth of the Rushtards whenever his name is mentioned though, lol.

I find it odd that GOPers will attack an American over his criticism of a foreign nation – Israel.

I would support Romney, Jindal, Palin, Giuliana or Brown (In no particular order. I would “even” support a ticket with Joe Lieberman rather than vote for Paul. (I just wouldn’t vote for the ticket if Paul were on it; even the bottom of the ticket)
hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:22 AM

Im always amazed at how effective The Rush’s conditioning is. He has everyone here focused on supporting whatever the GOP will force down your throat. I can relate since I was there once myself. It’s quite amusing.

True_King on February 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM

You, sir, are ignorant. Conservatives – including Limbaugh and listeners – were those who were loudly and publicly deriding Bush for spending.

Midas on February 21, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Wow. I have to say that my perception of CPAC have taken a drastically different turn with the news of the Ron Paul straw poll vote. :sigh:

indy8 on February 21, 2010 at 2:57 PM

LOOK! It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No. It’s SUPER DOUCHE!

“Here I come to call you gay!”

SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM

You’re very gay.

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 2:59 PM

At first I thought Palin made a mistake declining an invite to speak at CPAC. The straw poll results that decision look genius.

Is CPAC full of truthers?

indy8 on February 21, 2010 at 3:04 PM

At first I thought Palin made a mistake declining an invite to speak at CPAC. The straw poll results that decision look genius.

Is CPAC full of truthers?

I’d say, based on what I’m reading here, that it’s full of big government “conservatives”, like Mitt “I wanna give everybody healthcare” Romney, Mike “You all need to be thinner and I’ll make sure government pays to make you thin” Huckabee.

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM

RWLA on February 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Quite unlike RW “I’m really interested in what total strangers do with their genitals” LA

Paul/Buchanan 2012! The only Jew-baiting isolationists that can save America! /s

SCBradley on February 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM

If all it takes to be an antisemite is to vote against funding Zionist expansion of Israeli territory, then Israelis who vote against Zionist expansion are antisemites–that proves the foolishness to judge accordingly.

Is this a little more beguiling?

hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Is this a little more beguiling?

hawkdriver on February 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM

WOW! There seems to be a running narrative that Dr. Paul cannot shake.

daesleeper on February 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM

He wins 3 years and loses this year.

That’s relevant.

AnninCA on February 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Its not relevant.

Ron Paul supporters are like the Borgs from Star Trek. They collectively work together to artificially inflate the results of any online or real life poll.

Palin, Cheney, Romney, Huckabee any any other big name republican would have “lost” in a vote where Ron Paul supporters are like mindless Borgs and stuff the ballot box with their votes.

That’s why I don’t accept the vote for CPAC this year. The people who work for CPAC should have known how Ron Paul people manipulate the system and invalidated their votes.

Conservative Samizdat on February 21, 2010 at 7:14 PM

And I suppose neocon stooge for globalists THIS ISN’T RELEVANT???

Ron Paul’s win at CPAC’s straw poll was a longtime coming and neocons like you balk at him winning the albeit unscientific poll.

OPEN YOUR MINDS MORE AND YOUR LEGS LESS!

BobAnthony on February 22, 2010 at 7:38 AM

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