Video: The Tea Party’s diversity
posted at 8:05 am on February 19, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Normally, I wouldn’t play the game of counting heads based on ethnicity as a means of justifying the authenticity of a grassroots organization, even when challenged by a broadcaster from a network whose hosts range from lily-white to a light ecru. As I told Tommy Christopher in a video that he will publish sometime today or tomorrow, it’s a no-win scenario; if one can’t produce enough examples of diversity, then the movement somehow excludes minorities — and if one does produce enough, suddenly it’s too self-conscious and must be hiding a latent bit of racism. Still, Randy Haddock puts together some video clips from Tea Party events that show that opposition to the radical Democratic agenda has a broader base of support than defenders of the agenda like to admit:
Any movement that has candidates like Angela McGlowan, Col. Allen West, and Marco Rubio as crowd-pleasers and candidates for office has something more in mind than skin color as its objective. On the other hand, critics who deliberately ignore the broad base of opposition to the Democratic agenda and assign it to racism are doing so because they have no actual answers for the arguments being made. It’s much easier to sneer and smear than it is to engage intellectually, especially for those almost completely unequipped for the latter.
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Well, that’s because you’re an idiot.
I didn’t mention race at all. You did.
You’re the one trying to link it to race.
‘By the numbers’, all of that ‘black’ support isn’t enough to make up a majority of those who ‘approve’ of Obama. It is mostly non-blacks. Using your limited logical skills, you would presume this means then that I am racist against non-blacks, I suppose.
The fact is that I’m discussing behaviors and mindsets *only*. YOU and your ilk are the ones that can’t see beyond the color of people’s skin.
So, please – do continue demonstrating that YOU are the racist in the discussion.
Midas on February 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM
I loved Deneen Borelli!!! More of her, please!
SouthernGent on February 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Contrast HA vid with this from Olbywatch on the diversity of MSNBC. Pretty funny!!
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2010/02/video_the_many.php
katy on February 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM
That’s been a theme since day one. Every failure of this administration comes with somebody who claims that it only occurred because whites are seething that a black man (multi-racial actually) is in power and will do anything to bring the black man down.
Here’s the quandry for 2012. The Dems are going have to run Obama again as candidate unless Mr. B+ pulls a Lyndon Johnson and takes himself out of consideration, which is unlikely. The Dems are going have to defend all the failures, debt, and socialism by some means other than “Bush did it.” At what point does race become the primary selling point for the filthy lying coward in the White House?
highhopes on February 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM
In case MSNBC missed this:
Keith Olbermaniac asked “Where are the people of color at tea parties”?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/18/olbermann_tea_party_or_white_peoples_party.html
HHhhhhhhmmm…why doesn’t Exxon protest tax breaks for the oil industry?
The answer is that it is kinda of hard to protest the same handouts which the Dems have been bribing you with for generations.
And where are the people of color hosting shows on MSNBC?
IlikedAUH2O on February 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM
“Here’s hoping that the new HotAir ownership will start banning all these race baiting trolls.”
I’m not a big fan of ban hammers, but given the fact that the country is at a crossroads and there are critical issues to discuss, it would certainly be nice to get the obvious trolls out of the way. The whole concept of seeiung things solely as black vs. white is so out of date as to be ridiculous.
AJ has absolutely no predisposition to see someone as “black” or “white” or “hispanic” or “asian” or whatever. To him, people have different color skin, much the same way they have different color eyes or hair. While he’s as about as white as you can get, throughout his young life his best friends have been non-white, with one exception (who happened to be a girl, so he’s not sexist either!).
Anybody who continues to think in patterns of black vs. white (including this whole concept of the racial composition of the TEA Party) is simply feeding into the hysteria that is promoted by those who wish to maintain power. Remember, if the poor and middle class of all ethnicities ever got together, the elite class would be up a creek. The TEA Party is the closest thing to a populist movement that has existed in a while, and the power brokers are panicking. And their tried and true defense is to stir up racial animosity.
So folks, don’t even engage with the race baiters. If they don’t get banned, we can effectively ban them ourselves by ignoring them. I hope we do, because I’d rather be figuring out how to save AJ’s future…
AJsDaddie on February 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM
LOL.
The logic fail was that you used a faulty premise – that Hot Air is full of racists or whatever.
I don’t have that problem:
“All Obama voters are stupid” – That was some somebody’s claim
90% of black voters voted for Obama – Approximately, going from memory here, but it was about that high.
Therefore – I ask the question, Are 90% of black voters stupid? The only conclusion is that, if you really believe all Obama voters are stupid, that *at least* 90% of black voters are stupid.
Where is the faulty premise? Where is my reasoning invalid?
Proud Rino on February 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM
Ya think so? I don’t foresee any end – even by 2012 – to the ‘Bush did it’, ‘detractors are racists’, etc. It’ll be more ridiculous then than it is now, but right now, today, it’s patently ridiculous – but that doesn’t stop them.
*shrug*
Midas on February 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM
Yea this total BS rhetoric again…
Look that was over 100 years ago. People are like you are implying that blacks are so stupid and childish that they are being led around like little sheep and are incapable of picking a party or making any decision on their own. Ignorant black mass. As far as the “well democrats was the party of slavery” yea 100 years ago however we all know in the middle of the 20th century things changed and you guys are purposely being deceptive in leaving that out. Sorry the modern republican party is not one that is friendly to minorities and a large segment of the party show hostility to minority groups such as arabs and hispanics. Anyone with a brain who is a minority would know that it would not be wise to throw your hat in with people who have attitudes like that.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM
Funny how Keith isn’t worried one bit that MSNBC and NBC are 99% white… Why can’t people of color see through this obvious scam on them.
Americans of color; see what your eyes are showing you rather than what race baiters are telling you… Do this, and you will finally free yourselves from decades of lies.
Keemo on February 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM
It was the only selling point he ever had. But he likes to double-down, so I suppose we’ll be hearing much more about it–*yawn*
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Also most of the black republicans play to the stereotype that all blacks are welfare queens or uneducated when most black people are not one welfare or stupid and republicans in general constantly harp on about it like it is true whether directly or indirectly state it. They are overrepresented in welfare RELATIVE to other ethnic groups but nowhere is near most or even half of black people on welfare or uneducated.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM
given everything I stated above there is nothing the republican party offers that makes minorities want to join the party. Most minorities feel that the republican party in general is hostile towards them.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 10:19 AM
+1
Proud Rino on February 19, 2010 at 10:19 AM
What you’re really saying here is that blacks are too stupid to know they’re being had, and that once again it gets down to evil whitey (the leftist Democrat) mistreating and using blacks. Blacks are once again the victims.
But I give blacks more credit than that. They’re more than capable of thinking for themselves. Blacks don’t love the pro-affirmative action, big government welfare state because they’ve been “tricked” by the white liberal against their will into supporting it. No. They vote for it and support it because they like it and because they believe it is in their own self-interest to do so, white Democrats be damned.
And why wouldn’t they? Who doesn’t want free money and all the special advantages that come with belonging to a PC-protecting racial group? It’s a good gig for many blacks.
If anyone is the slave in this scenario it’s the American taxpayer (most of whom are white) who are forced against their will by the hammer of PC and the sickle of tyrannical, liberal government to go along with and fund this immoral system.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 10:19 AM
LOL, much better to continue to vote for the Dems whose platform is based upon telling minorities that they are incapable of taking care of themselves, getting jobs without Dem help, etc.
‘everything you stated’ is pretty shallow and ignorant to begin with, sorry.
Midas on February 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Unfair characterization. Conservatives are, and like, people who have similar ideological beliefs. Radical muslims and illegal aliens aren’t too welcome. But what does that have to do with color or race?
I would think it was just the opposite.
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM
You’re delusional. The GOP is just as politically correct when it comes to race as the Democratic party, maybe even more so. That’s part of the reason I am no longer a Republican.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 10:26 AM
The answer is that you are taking what is obviously hyperbole and trying to make a true statement out of it. I would be willing to stake a large sum of money that if I read the Daily Kos or even comments here on Hot Air that the liberals would have similar statements about George Bush voters. Do I believe that Obama all voters are morons? No. Do I believe they chose incorrectly? Yes. Which is easier to type; “Obama voters have been duped into voting for a man who is woefully unqualified for his job and who I wouldn’t trust with a potato gun” or “Obama voters are morons”. I would go with option B myself.
txaggie on February 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM
+1
mwdiver on February 19, 2010 at 10:30 AM
In case you missed it, capitalism is pretty color blind. And it looks like Jews, Asians and the members of the whole Indian subcontinent are doing quite a job in competing with the rest of us.
BTW, if your ‘black help’ fetish is a real altruisitc feeling, and not just a license for mucking up our political process, could you look for real challenges?
Since you have no imagination (like most liberals) I shall make suggestions. How about giving your own money away, of course, but also working to get real industries going in this nation to engage the black community in some activity more constructive than ACORN?
There are also a lot of good opportunities to show us 1776 types up like making any Demo-black city overnment work using the same programs which you want to foist on the whole nation.
And to you and the White House — why limit your excellent spend and regulate miracles to save us rotten, racist Americans from economic disaster and a failed economy?
I threw down the gauntlet with Statehood for Haiti NOW!
Couldn’t be that you need someone else’s money to play your game could it?
IlikedAUH2O on February 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM
People are like you are implying that blacks are so stupid and childish that they are being led around like little sheep and are incapable of picking a party or making any decision on their own. – Novell
BBBZZZTTT! rong anbwer but thanks for playing. Actually I was saying that the Dems targeted black voter for decades and have been successful. Rino implied what you accuse me of trying to imply, because that’s what libs do.
… a large segment of the party show hostility to minority groups such as arabs and hispanics.
*sigh* This same old crap again? Showing hostility to terrorists and border jumpers is not the same as being hostile towards any arab or Hispanic. Nice try, race baiter.
Tony737 on February 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Really? So what makes minorities join the GOP then, personal stupidity?
Bishop on February 19, 2010 at 10:32 AM
Perhaps, but the original poster of that comment had plenty of time to point that out, and didn’t. And no one else did until you claimed it was a hyperbolic statement just now.
Instead, they said things like, “Yes, with regard to the 2008 election, 90% of blacks are morons.”
Proud Rino on February 19, 2010 at 10:32 AM
rong anbwer hahaha that should say Wrong answer.
Trying to type with a baby in one hand! :-)
Tony737 on February 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM
Don’t forget, Rino’s only concerned that I might have labeled black voters as morons. He cares not a whit that I may have “insulted” the majority of jews, asians, females, etc. that voted for obama, or the untold millions of whites who did. He’s a putz, and not really worth the time, as smart AJsDaddie said.
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 10:34 AM
I don’t know who wrote this but exactly what is it that any political party is suppose to do to be “friendly” to anyone or group? In what way are minorities show hostility, specifics please?
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 10:34 AM
There you go, crr6. Your typical tea party goer.
But I’m sure this will go in one ear and out the other like every other inconvenient fact you’ve encountered in your sad life. After all, if you were to accept the reality that mainstream conservatives are race-blind MLK Jr. enthusiasts, that would destroy the entire leftist narrative of framing every person at a tea party rally as white supremacist and secret member of the KKK. Olbermann certainly wouldn’t have anything to talk about.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM
I shall say it, yes they are ignorant. Moron is an insult and a psychology term.
They are ignoprant since they elected a charlatan who continues policies which are making the whole nation poorer.
This is almost toooo easy…how about some good libs like I fight on lefty threads?
IlikedAUH2O on February 19, 2010 at 10:37 AM
I didn’t “point it out” because I didn’t say it. You, as a proud RINO, are apparently both a non-Obama voter :) and a moron.
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Shouldn’t the government be providing free child care for you while you type?
mwdiver on February 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM
I may have “insulted” the majority of jews, asians, females – Jdad
Yup, J-Dad MUST be a rascist … that’s why he adopted a baby girl from China … ’cause he hates minorities! Makes perfect sense!
Tony737 on February 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM
That was me, thank you. Of course every person who voted for PBHO I consider at least a temporary moron no matter the color of their skin.
You’re having trouble understanding.
Bishop on February 19, 2010 at 10:40 AM
LOL.I’m from NY. That’s pretty normal talk around here, used 50x/day in most households :)
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Shouldn’t the government be providing free child care for you while you type? – Diver
Well if Obama had deleivered on his promises, then yeah! haha
Tony737 on February 19, 2010 at 10:41 AM
That is his intent. He’s trolling and he is attempting to get someone to take the bait and post an emotional response that he can jump all over and play the ‘gotcha’ game.
That’s what trolls do. The one’s who use race baiting generally elicit the response in reasonable people that you feel.
Yoop on February 19, 2010 at 10:42 AM
He tried and failed. Must be Boooossshhheessss fault.
mwdiver on February 19, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Wrong. Many rich white taxpayers poorer. But haters of the Constitution, welfare queens, and members of PC-protected racial groups are coming out just fine.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 10:43 AM
All of you race baiting liberals can relax. I think Obama voters of all races and ethnicites are stupid. See, not racist.
Speedwagon82 on February 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM
So are political parties going to enter into negotiations for the different valuable minority voter? Are draft picks in future rounds up for consideration? I don’t vote for a party based on what they can do for me but what is good for the country as a whole. There is not way in he!! that being grossly in debt, guaranteeing jobs to contributors only and making sure the welfare rolls stay fat is good for the country.
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM
All of you race baiting liberals can relax REO
What they do is projection.
Tony737 on February 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM
I’m not racist. I hate ObaMao’s white part, too.
mwdiver on February 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Its the attitude of hatred towards them that surrounds it. The thinking is that if blacks ever become the consternation of a large portion of society like muslims and hispanics, that it is more than likely it will be republicans leading the charge against them than democrats. Being black myself and talking to plenty of black people sorry due to the attitude of SOME of those in the republican party, not necessarily the politicians of the party but the surrounding ideology and its supporters, there is an image of a party that to be honest here is made up of the typical 40 year old angry white male who is angry about the political correctness(which to be honest gets mixed up with just not being a ahole at times) minorities moving into his neighborhood and taking his job. I know that might not be the most sophisticated and tactful thing to say but I’m just being truthful about what the perception is among a lot of people who happen to be minorities. I don’t personally think that of republicans or even most of them however I’ll be honest that particular type of person is more likely to be a republican from my experience then he is to be a democrat…
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM
What makes this so funny is I remember the crusade white liberals went on when the Dubai ports situation came up. But I guess that wasn’t hostility to Arabs. /sarcasm
Speedwagon82 on February 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Of course it wasn’t. Only white, Christian, conservatives can be racist.
mwdiver on February 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Its the 2Brave2Bscared’s of the republican party that keep minorities wanting to join. :/
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Just saw on Fox News Obama is bypassing Congress to make a federal land grab of several western states to secure all the oil and gas drilling so that we will never be able to do that. Doesn’t he sound a lot like Hitler? This gets scarier every day.
silvernana on February 19, 2010 at 10:53 AM
…. the perception is among a lot of people who happen to be minorities … that particular type of person is more likely to be a republican from my experience then he is to be a democrat – Norvell
From my experience, it’s a white liberal democrat who looks around to see if any blacks are in the room before he starts going on a tirade against them, not realizing that the person they’re talking to is married to a black woman.
Tony737 on February 19, 2010 at 10:53 AM
There is racism in both parties, from all sides, but that’s people being people and no one promised that life would be fair and perfect.
Looking past how the two main parties supposedly conceive race, there still needs to be a choice made on personal principles and if you choose the demorat party then you are a moron.
Bishop on February 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM
No, I am saying that blacks have been sold on the idea that government is the only path to social justice. That is something that they for very good reason want. What the GOP and conservatives have failed to do is show how real social justice is only achieved via the free market.
Kafir on February 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM
My only criticism is that the music in the background was too loud. The film needs to be remixed so that I can hear what the speakers are saying.
kurtzz3 on February 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Color doesn’t matter. Hard work does matter.
Conservatives have TONS of non-white spokespeople. Let’s start with Thomas Sowell, Michelle Malkin, Larry Elder, Walter Williams. And we listen to them because they have interesting things to say, not because they’re token representatives of a group of people we’re trying to keep control of.
hawksruleva on February 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Great video. I wish they had included one of my favorite conservative activists, Apostle Claver of RagingElephants.org.
MHoffpauir on February 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM
“And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat?
We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick:
But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes.
-Numbers 11:4-6
Akzed on February 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Created, saved or funded?
Yoop on February 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Not sure what to say to that. Real racism, based on physical appearance, or hatred of minority ethnicities, is truly repugnant. That being said, thankfully,it won’t stop anybody in the US anymore, we’re way past that. But fake cries over racism/discrimination when there are real ideological differences is a different matter.
It’s fair to criticize people for what they believe. Unlike physical characteristics, you’re not born with beliefs, so imo people should be prepared to defend theirs. I don’t like liberals and don’t want to be around them because of what they believe.
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM
It will be my great pleasure to cast votes for 2 of the 3 people mentioned.
John Deaux on February 19, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM
My past posts are not as thorough, thought out and tactful as I wanted them to be because I’m trying to keep them short since I’m posting from work however the short and sweet of it is that in general the republican party has image problems with minority groups and its not because minorities want welfare and to be victims as stated in this thread several times which in fact is the attitude that has led to this image problem to begin with. Republicans need to fix themselves in regards to their image in regards to social issues. Thing is I’m a democrat but I do agree with the fiscal concepts of conservatives to some degree but I could never really toss my hat in with republicans due to their stances in regards to social issues and that is just not race for example I’m a black secular humanist who approves of gay marriage and that is just one example where conservative ideas do not jive with my perception of life in general or how other people should be able to live their lives.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Two questions, just asking. What political party did MLK, Jr. belong? What is your opinion of affirmative action, your
yourself and all.
dish on February 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM
That background music on the vid was distracting.
keebs on February 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM
What for example has the GOP done to hispanics? I am sure they have done nothing wrong with legal citizens but if they object to giving amnesty to illegals is that considered racisism?
garydt on February 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM
garydt on February 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM
And what does it say about hispanics who are here legally and who vocally object to amnesty (which encompasses most Americans of Hispanic descent I know)?
dish on February 19, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Most of my family is hispanic and they came and done everything legal and they are also against this amnesty thing. They say Mexico would do no such thing or any other nation in the world. Most nations do enforce their borders. They recognize that people being against amnesty are not racist.
garydt on February 19, 2010 at 11:50 AM
MLK was a republican and so was a lot of blacks at the time. Also around that time democrats actively fought against civil rights bills. Democrats were at one time the party of the people However again things changed and the republicans actively sought to change them for political reasons (ex: use of the southern strategy).
As far as affirmative action, on one hand I don’t believe in quotas and believe in judgment based purely on merits. However that is and ideal and to be honest reality isn’t so clear cut. Unfortunately, and it has been shown, there are biases against blacks in hiring practices. Hell even tge name some blacks possess, which more times than not is not the person’s choice, has shown to keep significant amount of blacks from getting job. There was a controlled study a few years ago that showed that white ex-cons had more success with getting call backs from jobs than blacks with no record and all things being equal. Unfortunately human beings are not purely logical beings and there is a bias against blacks in this country in viewing them as not being equals to say maybe white, asians, and other ethnic groups outside of maybe hispanics.
So given that, I wish that merit was the only thing used by employers to hire people but a lot of times its not. That is simply idealism. Therefore, there needs to be laws in place to counteract it. Now affrimative action as far as what people think of with quotas I don’t agree with but something needs to be done to allow blacks to be able to make a living and not be discriminated against simply for being black.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 11:52 AM
typo^ Democrats were at one time the party of the people = Democrats were at one time the party of the people who were practicing the discrimination.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Cool. They’re smarter than 99% of liberals! ;)
Midas on February 19, 2010 at 12:01 PM
So my speaking the truth prevents you from joining a political party I don’t even belong to?
Actually, what your posts illustrate is why it’s a waste of time for conservatives to reach out to “minorities.”
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM
So the way to win over minorities is to convince them they’ll get more social justice on our side than theirs? In other words, we pander to them with liberal carrots and sticks?
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Like a duck….
I’m sure you either label yourself an independant, libertarian, or whatever label you label yourself that says both parties are corrupt so f them both however reading your blog you rail more against the liberals more than conservatives and most of your ideals fall in line with American conservatives than anything else. Your opinions and attitude aren’t too different.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM
BS.
I’m sick people like you blaming inequality on white racism. The truth is that the vast majority of employers in this country do hire on merit, it’s just that whites and Asians are most often more qualified for the job.
Call me a racist for saying so. I don’t give a damn. I’m tired of this country being labeled racist because certain minority groups can’t compete on a level playing field.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM
It is tragic that few of America’s 40-somethings and under have any appreciation for Western Civilization, nor will they stand up to defend it for fear of being called “racist.” This is a direct result of Leftist indoctrination in our schools. For more than a generation, most of the “social studies” curriculum in the US is designed to instill a sense of shame for Western Civilization’s rise over other cultures. Books such as “Guns, Germs, and Steel” are propped by multicultural educators as a rationalization for other cultures’ failures while minimizing (through omission and distortion) the intellectual assets that Western Civilization gave birth to: political freedom, capitalism, individualism, republicanism, rationalism, and open debate to name a few. See VDH’s take on this at “Decline and Fall”
I have witnessed 5th grade students being taught to admire the technology involved in creating dugout canoe, while ignoring that of a nuclear submarine. So to they are taught to admire and emulate cultures that never developed written language and still transmit their culture orally, as if written language is somehow impure, corrupting, or a just another aspect of “tricknology” used to bamboozle indigenous people out of their natural resources.
Toxic seminars such as “The Unbearable Whiteness of Being” tour the country propagating the idea that America is built on an ‘invisible white power structure’ and ‘is irredeemably racist.’ As seen at Hotair, teachers are screened for this and other ‘racialist thought sins’ before they engage with students.
Alinskyite instructors in Afrocentric studies courses teaching myth as history (that the Greeks stole their culture from Africa) in order to inflame grievances do incalculable damage.
Sowing division and resentment has payed marvelous dividends for democrats in the short term…unfortunately, we’ll all be left paying the tab.
Peace_Sells... on February 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM
That’s not my blog. But I’m glad you gave it a visit.
Once again your ignorance is showing. You should follow me around the internet sometime. I get accused of racism and other such politically incorrect crimes by “conservatives” more so than I do by left-liberals.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM
More Asians and Whites definitely achieve higher education and go to better schools compared to blacks however again studies have shown that there other things that factor into hiring decisions when it comes to blacks when things are equals. Simply having a “black” name significantly cuts people’s chances due to biases of what type of person they might be. It’s not just whites who think like this. Sorry the general attitudes among various races towards blacks is not usually positive. Trust me I know whites aren’t the only ones who are like this.
Sorry, just because you wish everything was colorblind and purely merit base was true, studies and surveys have shown that not to be the case. Given that its a human being not robots doing the interviews there are cases where biases come into effect. There is a reason why that son of the ceo’s best bud was so easily able to get that job over you. Things aren’t exactly how we ideally want them to be and the same is in regards to race.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM
The unconstitutional federal education systems and all the programs that fund it need to be destroyed. Unfortunately, most “conservatives” today, included the ones who post at Hot Air, have no interest in dismantling the NEA. Most “conservatives” today aren’t conservatives at all.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:23 PM
There is a reason you link it to your name though. Don’t play stupid.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 12:24 PM
So you will continue to vote of a party who’s fiscal programs will bankrupt the nation and our current standard of living because social conservatives won’t give up on their long held values and beliefs that are every bit as valid as you feel your beliefs are? Not a big picture kind of guy are you?
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Thank you. It is refreshing to hear from someone from the opposition (not enemy, just opposition) who actually has some working knowledge of history as it actually happened, not the ‘new pc-history’, and isn’t afraid to say it. But I will disagree with your conclusion that the parties ‘changed’. I only think the face value talking points changed. The democrats used a strategy of ‘whitey keeping the man down’ to change the preception of what the republican party actually stood for. They were aided by a leftist, socialist-leaning media who saw an opportunity to create a class of dependent voters. Do you really think that the LBJ welfare state helped Americans-of-African descent?
As to affirmative action, I don’t agree with you that being color blind is an unachievable ideal. Maybe because I am trying very hard to teach my children that color of skin isn’t comparable to content of character. It might take a while to achieve, but nothing worthwhile comes easy. According to you, that racist attitude isn’t as obvious with members of other races. So, it is achievable. That ‘ideal’ is very difficult to reach when we are pigeon-holed into categories by those who think because I have one set of social beliefs that differ from others that I am somehow ‘racist’. Maybe if you had phrased your replies that while you agree with many republican ideas of conservatism, you disagree with too many social issues to ‘throw your hat in’ and just leave the racial overtones out, we could remove race from the discussion.
dish on February 19, 2010 at 12:29 PM
I care more about how other human beings treat other human beings more than I care about the financial stability of our country. I care about both but there is a split between sides here and I have to choose one. I choose social issues over financial issues and besides the so call conservatives in this country have not done much to curb our deficit either or stop our country from becoming bankrupt. So I might as well pick the lesser of two evils here after weighing my options.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 12:32 PM
Heh. Well, that ^ post rambled. Sorry, I hope I made some sense. Preview is my friend, must remember that.
dish on February 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM
This is funny since most conservatives and tea party attendees are getting the label of anti-elitists. We are not happy about having people in seats of power, be it financial, educational, informational or governmental, who got into the “preferred” schools due to cronyism and nepotism then any real sign of higher intelligence. The whole tea party movement is to get the average person to be citizen representatives as the founders intended. Instead we have developed a ruling class equal to any aristocracy.
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM
See, that was what I was trying to say!!!
Norvell, if you are old enough, did you vote for Reagan? If Zombie Reagan appeared, would you vote for him over Obama? Okay, if somehow, someone, from the Republican party channeled Ronald Reagan and what he stood for, would you vote for him, or Obama?
dish on February 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM
What studies? Done by the Southern Poverty Law Center I suppose? Provide your “studies.”
And you don’t think this is in any way justified? Sorry, but blacks have not exactly represented their race very well. Many butcher the king’s English, dress like thugs, scream racism every time something doesn’t go their way, and are general loud and obnoxious. They’re also “seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.”
I suppose this is all all the result of racism as well? After all, if the “white man weren’t keeping black man down” their crime rates wouldn’t be through the roof, right?
Life isn’t fair, buddy. I’ve accepted that, why can’t you? The answer isn’t to go out and force on employers racial quotas, effectively creating a system that legally discriminates against many much more qualified whites and Asians. But you don’t care about that. No, you don’t care if the system is rigged, you just want it rigged in your favor.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM
I am going to need specifics on how Republicans have kept people from being everything they could be? Are you strictly speaking of gay marriage because is just a matter of time?
Cindy Munford on February 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM
I’m not distancing myself from it. I just wanted to make it clear that I am not the author of the blog.
No, I leave that to you.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM
What has 50+ plus years of voting lock-step with the Democratic Party gotten black Americans? In the 1960s, when the lock-step voting began, US blacks had some of the HIGHEST RATINGS amongst ethnic groups in terms of marriage rates, children born into married families, and employment rates, as well as some of the LOWEST RATINGS in terms of out-of-wedlock births and criminality. Now? well, there’s really no need to say more, is there?
If the Democratic Party is a “friend” to blacks, then I’m proud to count myself as an enemy.
rvastar on February 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM
Dude. She’s hot.
http://www.black-and-right.com/wp-content/uploads/borelli.jpg
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM
You must be really angry with your fellow black liberals then? Maybe you’re not aware, but if it weren’t for the Obama supporting black vote, proposition 8 in California would have never past.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:50 PM
One day you will grow up and hold a job. We are pulling for you buddy.
daesleeper on February 19, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Let’s see…
- Wealth redistribution
- Affirmative action that discriminates against whites for the benefit of blacks and other minorities
- Racial quotas that allow minorities to be overrepresented on university campuses
- The political and social power that comes with being a part of a politically correct racial group
And on and on. Blacks are not victims here. They know what they’re doing and what they want. And it’s not what you want, whitey.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM
And when minimum wage laws required employers to pay more than they could afford, unemployment among blacks (and whites) went up.
Young hard working black men were not allowed to prove their worth to an employer because the employer could not afford to hire them.
As strange as it may seem today, employers used to be able to hire two kids “for the summer” and then keep the one who proved himself. Now an employer can only hire one, and with lib laws that lefttards enacted to help the poor downtrodden worker, once he/she hires someone, it’s almost impossible to get rid of them.
That rewards sloth and raises the costs of production and services.
Get the gov’ment out of peoples lives and see production and selfworth soar.
And as wrong as I tjhink it is, if an employer does not want to hire someone due to his/her race that’s the employer’s business. The government has no right telling someone who he/she can hire.
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM
silvernana on February 19, 2010 at 10:53 AM
That was on Drudge yesterday. The total number of acreage they are looking at is stunning. It is an interesting story that deserves some time. From what I read yesterday, the speculation is based on history/what other POTUS have done only a small portion will be chosen but I don’t think you can apply history to Obama. If the goal is no drilling, the sky is the limit. But what I don’t understand is that he is building two nuc plants and then wants no drilling or is this a push toward federal control of utiliities?
Maybe that’s a dumb question, don’t know but the story needs some attention. I’m sure it is one that we are not supposed to be paying attention to.
ORconservative on February 19, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Kid, you let this country go belly up financially and you’ll see “how humans beings treat other human beings”.
I guarantee you, it won’t be pretty.
“Canadian Troops To Patrol US Cities As Food Riots Feared”
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1203875495
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Oh as far as how strong religion is in the black community and how I personally have my own disagreements with it is a whole other topic. Also I’m not happy that prop 8 passed. So yea.
You’re talking to someone who works 60 hours a week and holds 2 jobs. Not bragging just letting you know.
Study about the white ex-cons
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_2_108/ai_n15681393/
Study about black names and how it effects hiring
http://www.cjc.net/publications/files/01_Resources_Cultural-Comp/Race_names_employment.pdf
You have a chip on your shoulder and resorting strawman arguments. Did I say the crime rate is the fault of whitey? Also this only validates what I was saying that you agree that there are stereotypes (even if they don’t apply to most blacks or even true) that certain people hold against blacks in general but again then I ask you should I personally be judged on what another black person does and is it justifiable and understandable if they don’t hire me because they dislike blacks in general because SOME OTHER PERSON was walking down the street in annoyed them? If it is justifiable to you then you agree that job hiring practices are not solely based on merit.
I think most people realize life isn’t fair. Didn’t I just say I didn’t agree with quotas? Another strawman.
Norvell on February 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM
So you think affirmative action and other such racial quota laws should be done away with?
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM
Yes, it’s too bad that the bad apples in the black community have messed things up for the good ones. But no, I do not blame an employer for maybe being hesitate to hire blacks if he’s had bad experience after bad experience with black employees in the past. Is it fair for the good blacks out there like yourself who lose out because of this? No. But that’s life. And that’s what happens when you’re part of an ethnic group that has demonstrated time and time again its general incompetence and ability to misbehave.
2Brave2Bscared on February 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM
So you don’t have an excuse for your ignorance. Got it.
daesleeper on February 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM
Wow. My post got blocked. Apparently you can’t quote Harry Reed when it comes to Ms. Borelli.
mwdiver on February 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM
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