Report: Poisoning plot at Fort Jackson?
posted at 9:49 pm on February 18, 2010 by Allahpundit
People are tweeting and e-mailing about it so I feel obliged to post, but I have to say: The details seem awfully thin for a story of such huge import, with so many incendiary implications. No disrespect to Fox News or CBN but take this with a grain of salt. FNC:
The U.S. Army is investigating allegations that soldiers were attempting to poison the food supply at Fort Jackson in South Carolina…
The Army is taking the allegations “extremely seriously,” Grey said, but so far, “there is no credible information to support the allegations.”
The suspects were part of a Arabic translation program called “09 Lima” and use Arabic as their first language, two sources told Fox News. Another military source said they were Muslim.
And CBN:
CBN News has learned exclusively that five Muslim soldiers at Fort Jackson in South Carolina were arrested just before Christmas. It is unclear whether the men are still in custody. The five were part of the Arabic Translation program at the base…
A source with intimate knowledge of the investigation, which is ongoing, told CBN News investigators suspect the “Fort Jackson Five” may have been in contact with the group of five Washington, DC area Muslims that traveled to Pakistan to wage jihad against U.S. troops in December. That group was arrested by Pakistani authorities, also just before Christmas.
Another Army spokesman told the AP that he’s unaware of any arrests. I’m awfully curious as to who leaked the investigation and why. After Fort Hood, with all the toxic PR the military absorbed for having missed so many red flags about Hasan, it could be that someone on the inside feared they’d try to sweep this under the rug to avoid another embarrassment. But even so, why run with the story until you know there’s something to it?
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People need to lose their jobs.
First their was a shooting at Fort Hood.
Now a group of muslim soldiers work to poison solders & and it is covered up.
WTF? Is Obama going to come out and blame this on Bush? Get Chris Matthews and the Southern Poverty Law center to call our troops racists who had it coming?
tetriskid on February 18, 2010 at 9:53 PM
I suspect they had enough to comment on it and the story being out there should shake something loose if true
Aggie95 on February 18, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Good question. It’s so unlike the press to do that. Hey did you hear the one about Rush hating black people? True story. Got it from the press.
Weight of Glory on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
If I’m not mistaken chow is prepared by civilian contractors in the same way that gate security is handled on military installations stateside. (a little help from active duty?)
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Gonna have to wait and see on this. No use jumping the gun til we know more. However, with all that’s going on right now, the last thing Obama, and the White House needs, is another terrorist attack on an American base. So white washing could be going on as well.
capejasmine on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Seems hard to beleive this could’ve been kept under wraps since Dec. Soldiers gossip worse than old ladies, even if national security was cited, something would’ve leaked before everyone got the word to clam-up.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Every time I see that guy whining on television, I feel the need to grab a steel brush, a bucket of lye and bleach, and scrub him till he bleeds. He looks like he smells and he’s an idiot.
Alright~we’ll see how this pans out…..I figure at some point, Bush will be blamed.
HornetSting on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Not in my day, but that was when orders came by & horse on papyrus, so can’t help ya.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 10:00 PM
My nephew was at Ft. Jackson during this time going thru AIT and he didn’t say a word. I am going to drop him a note and ask him about it.
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Courier, captured, phone numbers….other captured phones which lead to more phones. Been a lot of phones in the news lately.
One thing leads to many others, then you get a cascade.
Skandia Recluse on February 18, 2010 at 10:02 PM
This is a strange story, to be sure. I’m glad you posted it here though. I would like to know how credible this is.
ORconservative on February 18, 2010 at 10:04 PM
To quote your esteemed colleague Ed Morrissey:
(… but islamofascist extremist infiltrating the military and set out to do harm is an impossibility and wouldn’t exist even if it allegedly did since we wouldn’t want to harm our cultural diversity training or offend anyone in any way.)
Seven Percent Solution on February 18, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Breaking: FNC Reports 5 Men In Custody; Possibly Attempting Poison Food Supply at Fort Jackson
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http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=17532
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Is it true that the CAIR is now the outsource provider for catering at all military functions?….naaah…
That could never happen. But it would show our tolerance and respect for those that have diverse opinions.
We should do it, invite CAIR Catering Inc. in to cater all our military functions.
PappyD61 on February 18, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Alright~we’ll see how this pans out…..I figure at some point, Bush will be blamed.
HornetSting on February 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM
HornetSting:With the lock-stepped ObamaBots,thats a given!:)
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Because it WAS ALREADY swept under the rug? And it’s completely plausible to me. islam is not compatible with America, and certainly not the military. Until we purge them, this will not end. (And I don’t care what y’all call me because I know I’m right)
SouthernGent on February 18, 2010 at 10:10 PM
Is that new? Did that info come after this post?
Weight of Glory on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
I heard this tonight on Savage’s show. The CBN reporter claimed he was the one that broke the story, but didn’t have many details, nor could he disclose his “sources”. Of course, Savage ate it up. Let’s just wait and see what the facts are before jumping on this..
Allahpundit, reason in a sea of insanity.
NoStoppingUs on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Damn I was stationed as an MP at Ft Jackson 98-01. I was on the Drug Suppression Team with CID my last year there. I think it is the best duty station in the Army and this, if true, really pisses me off.
Howcome on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
I don’t know if it’s the sources or the reporter, but that phrasing makes me skeptical, for some reason.
It’s like saying that there are some soldiers in a combat training program called “11 Bravo”.
malclave on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
CoastoCoast had some expert on last week,stating
there were sleeper cells,across America,waiting
to poison water supplies!!
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Me thinks,as per usual Jihady,this is a test run!!
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:12 PM
Amen Brother!
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 10:12 PM
Arrested just before Xmas and it’s just coming out now? Maybe there is something even larger that happened and the food thing is itself a cover-up.
Bishop on February 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Shark bump
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM
SouthernGent on February 18, 2010 at 10:10 PM
I don’t think anyone here thinks the Jihadis wouldn’t if they had the oppotunity, many just don’t want to pull a “Shuster” and go off half-cocked. Myself and those here try to practice higher standards than NBC & NYT’s.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 10:15 PM
You’re mis-reading the article, as I did at first (whoever wrote the article did a poor job at it). This didn’t happen back in December.
A source with intimate knowledge of the investigation, which is ongoing, told CBN News investigators suspect the “Fort Jackson Five” may have been in contact with the group of five Washington, DC area Muslims that traveled to Pakistan to wage jihad against U.S. troops in December. That group was arrested by Pakistani authorities, also just before Christmas.
This group five that were arrested, I’d assume today as no date is given, may have been in contact with ANOTHER group (also five members) of DC area Muslims that went missing and were found in Pakistan that tried to wage jihad against U.S. troops in December. That second group, the DC area Muslims, were the ones arrested in December–and there were news reports on it.
The “Fort Jackson Five” is a separate group that were likely arrested recently.
Enoxo on February 18, 2010 at 10:16 PM
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Is that new? Did that info come after this post?
Weight of Glory on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Weight of Glory: There time post is,
Home – by Lori Ziganto – February 18, 2010 – 16:22 America/Chicago
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I think,it was 4:22 this afternoon,for their thread!!
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:16 PM
If this turns out to be a cover up….there will be no redemption for Obama. He’ll be finished.
capejasmine on February 18, 2010 at 10:17 PM
Thanks!
Weight of Glory on February 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM
I quit pulling my “shuster” a long time ago.
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM
Because it WAS ALREADY swept under the rug? And it’s completely plausible to me. islam is not compatible with America, and certainly not the military. Until we purge them, this will not end. (And I don’t care what y’all call me because I know I’m right)
SouthernGent on February 18, 2010 at 10:10 PM
SouthernGent: Yes,I agree,now if this was WW2,bombers would
be over a city right down,as a revenge strike!
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM
Jihadis still hiding in the services?
Inconceivable!
Christien on February 18, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Arabic translation team? What did we ever do to the Lebanese Maronites?!?! Why do they hate us so?
*weeps*
abobo on February 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM
Guess that means the ham for Easter won’t be served…and there goes the pork chops, and bacon in the morning…Gotta love that diversity…
lovingmyUSA on February 18, 2010 at 10:23 PM
I need to see a LOT more probable cause before I can get very excited over this one.
Sounds like a lot of people are running scared…
GoldenEagle4444 on February 18, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Enoxo on February 18, 2010 at 10:16 PM
Hmmmm, well now. That does read more plausibly. If true, I’m gald we interdicted before hand. Plus this would make 4 man-made-disasters, successful or not, on Bam-bam’s watch.
Hey wait, wasn’t everyone supposed to love us now that Booooosh is gone and the messiah’s in the oval?
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 10:24 PM
Sorry, had to fix that.
Maquis on February 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Beer run! Back in few.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM
All muslims out of the military.
daesleeper on February 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM
You don’t think that having the enemy in our ranks is a good idea?
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM
I don’t feel we should discriminate against all Muslims. However, I do think the military needs to do a better job screening and background checking ALL individuals.
Enoxo on February 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Well, you know, canopfor….If Bush hadn’t been such a BULLY and gone after the guys that attacked us on 9/11……
We should have just sat down over a nice, coffee and asked them WHY we were to blame for them hating us…..
HornetSting on February 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM
This will cramp the defense of Field Marshal Hasan* at Fort Hood. It was going to be a slam dunk to palm this off as one crazy lonely Muslim run amok. But how do you do that when the Jackson Five are harmonizing in quantity for Jihad on another base?
This is real late and murky, so it’s probably true in todays world.
*you know he would be a Field Marshal by now if there wasn’t so much bigotry and racism against Muslims in the Armed forces.
BL@KBIRD on February 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Until a litmus test is found that can identify the jihadis from the good ones, what other option is rational?
daesleeper on February 18, 2010 at 10:35 PM
Gibbs will be out tomorrow to call them a band of isolated extremists, while referencing Stack’s terrorism.
A.C. McCloud on February 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM
Well, you know, canopfor….If Bush hadn’t been such a BULLY and gone after the guys that attacked us on 9/11……
We should have just sat down over a nice, coffee and asked them WHY we were to blame for them hating us…..
HornetSting on February 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM
HornetSting:The talk’n point is,
Ya know,Bush is the main reason that it keeps creating
Jihady Goons,and according to the Liberal nutjobs,the
word Bush,is a recruitment tool!!:)
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Jihadi Joe… a real Islamic hero.
Jihadi Joe is there.
Jihadi Joe: Hey there, little infidel American boy, you better submit to the will of Allah or I will have to keeeeeeel you.
Little infidel American boy: Gee, thanks Jihadi Joe. Now I know…
Jihadi Joe: And knowing is half the battle!
red winger on February 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Than let these 5 islamic fellas work in the white house kitchen and make some Arugula Salad for Gibbs and the gang. See how they feel about it than.
portlandon on February 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Local governments have been expecting an attack on water supplies for years. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean the water supply is not an easy target.
ORconservative on February 18, 2010 at 10:40 PM
Psssst-pop, glurp-glurp…ahhhhh! Much better, now where were we?
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Would Obama cover-up for Muslims trying to poison our troops? Yeah, he sure would. He would have covered-up the crotch bomber if he could have.
Covering up Islamic terrorism has been around for several administrations. Carter covered up Arafat’s involvement in murdering a US dignitary. Clinton covered up the Bukhari midair collision on 9/11/2000, one year to the day prior to 9/11. It’s likely that are incidents that Bush covered up in the name of political correctness, as well.
Buddahpundit on February 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Beware the screen pass when the opposition is facing an over aggressive opponent. (Translation, this story may be kook bait.)
elfman on February 18, 2010 at 10:47 PM
All muslims out of the military.
daesleeper on February 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM
This warrants serious consideration, really. While it wasn’t particularly our shining moment, this was deemed as necessary in WWII with the Japs and the internment camps. If you’ve raed “At Dawn We Sle[pt” you’d know that infiltration ops by nipponese agents was indeed prevelant and thje camps more than likely saved many lives. And the Nisei rebounded extraordinarily well back into the mainstream there-after.
At some point we (which I think we’ve demonstrably passed) have a duty to those who serve to not needless put them in danger. Call me a xenophobe if you like, but there are practicalities to consider.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 10:49 PM
A non-jihadi Muslim, is a heretic, waiting to discover the errors of his ways.
“Good Muslims” are the ultimate sleeper agents.
Maquis on February 18, 2010 at 10:51 PM
I don’t see how you going to screen the loyal muslims from the fanatics. Didn’t the others fool the authorities for a long time? Plus the fact the armed forces are so strong in enforcing their PC, and diversity rules. Guess its going to take a huge diaster to wake up BO and Gibbs. Love to hear from the trolls on their take on this story.
garydt on February 18, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Damn! A quick liitle beer run and everyones gone, must be a new post up and they’re in another thread. Hmmph, no rest for the wicked.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 11:00 PM
….And the lack of BUSH, is what makes these Jihady Goons so crazy.
Drop some handsome goats by air into those Afghan hills and watch the festivities!
HornetSting on February 18, 2010 at 11:01 PM
One last shot before I surf, the arabic word for deliberate deceptive sleeper-like denial of their true faith, is called “Takfir”.
Archimedes on February 18, 2010 at 11:02 PM
Have they raised the terror alert level for military bases? I remember after 9/11, the National Gaurd in my town was on lock-down (my son’s Boy Scout troop had to meet else where) and this happened multiple times for a year or so.
TN Mom on February 18, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Look, here’s the deal. The administration chooses to believe that the terrorists are not dangerous, just misunderstood. So far, the administration has been able to dodge any really negative repercussions from this policy because they have strong editorial influence over the MSM and absolute control over information coming out of the military.
The president has consistently downplayed the war on terror, not for of any legitimate reason, but purely for partisan political purposes. It is useless to discuss the geopolitical, moral, economic – even existential – aspects of terrorism with the administration, Democrat party hacks, or their shills in the press.
So, let me put it to them in a form they will understand. If the president looks out his window one day and, God forbid, sees a mushroom cloud rising up in the distance, in the few seconds he has left in the house that every president since John Adams has called home, he can reflect on the fact that the ‘man-made disaster’ will mean the absolute end of the Democrat party. Forever. And it will be all his fault.
/soapbox
Knott Buyinit on February 18, 2010 at 11:11 PM
I went through basic at Ft. Jackson. I’m pretty sure the food was poisoned back then.
29Victor on February 18, 2010 at 11:20 PM
Wow, I ship out to Ft. Jackson on Monday. I guess this is an early lesson on the dangers of serving in the U.S. military even while stateside. Seems like we’ve had quite a few reminders of this lately.
niuhuskie2009 on February 18, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Quick! Give them a civilian trial!
Exit question: how many more “moderate” Muslims do we have like this within the military?
Like Robert Spencer says, ‘They were moderate Muslims…until they weren’t anymore.’
If ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ is a big deal, then how big will the ‘dismiss all Mislims from military service’ debate be? Hmm..
Dick Turpin on February 18, 2010 at 11:41 PM
….And the lack of BUSH, is what makes these Jihady Goons so crazy.
Drop some handsome goats by air into those Afghan hills and watch the festivities!
HornetSting on February 18, 2010 at 11:01 PM
HornetSting: Oh Gawd,that would be JihadyBlowBack Mountain,
with moaning goats echoing through the canyons,
rated “R”,haha!:)
canopfor on February 18, 2010 at 11:47 PM
Shazaam! Ya thynk?
Chewy the Lab on February 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM
Shazaam! Ya thynk?
Chewy the Lab on February 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM
Chewy the Lab:)
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cowboys herding cats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
canopfor on February 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM
Good luck. Semper Fi!
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2010 at 12:20 AM
SOS?
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2010 at 12:21 AM
Remember, first reports are ALWAYS wrong.
And, as a previous poster mentioned, there is no way this could have been kept quiet for so long. Soldiers gossip, MPs gossip, and 5 (or 3) arrestes would be impossible to keep quiet. We are not yet at the point where people can disappear and no one notices.
Even Communist Russia and Socialist Germany were never really able to do that. People still noticed and talked to their friends and family.
schmuck281 on February 19, 2010 at 12:26 AM
I have a suspicion that a lot of the deaths of US troops, and maybe most of them within the last few months, have come at the hands of the “friendly” Muslims, Afgahanis and translators, that Obama is forcing the troops to serve shoulder-to-shoulder with.
Buddahpundit on February 19, 2010 at 12:29 AM
My grandson was shot by a “friendly” in Afghanistan. Thank God that he survived.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2010 at 12:34 AM
One thing’s for sure: they never could get scrambled eggs and omelets right when I was in. Thank God for Tabasco!
txleadfoot00 on February 19, 2010 at 12:37 AM
Amen, sir. Best wishes and my thanks.
txleadfoot00 on February 19, 2010 at 12:42 AM
Thank God, indeed. Bless him for his service to his country.
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 1:46 AM
G.I. Jihadi translators fool me once…
G.I. Jihadi translators fool me twice…
etc.
etc.
selias on February 19, 2010 at 2:17 AM
What did you expect? Accepting our muslim enemies in the country and giving them guns? What sane person would do that. No. Round up all muslimns and put them in internment camps like the Japanese during ww2.
JC Silverberg on February 19, 2010 at 4:57 AM
Islam is NOT a religion.
Islam is a DEATH CULT.
If you are not a muslim, then they want you dead.
It is as simple as that.
ms on February 19, 2010 at 5:07 AM
This one’s pretty touchy. Although I do not doubt that there were Japanese agents spying for Japan before Pearl Harbor, some even Nisei, the vast majority of Nisei were loyal, patriotic American citizens who had been assimilated way before. We had the German-American Bund in full force here in the States and Roosevelt didn’t put German Americans into internment camps. But most Nisei were eager to prove their loyalty and many served with distinction in the European theater.
That said, I would have to agree that Islam, as written in the Koran and preached throughout the world, is incompatible with the American way of life. Those in the military should be screened as thoroughly as possible, with Israeli-style methods and not the current PC way with blinders on and unless found 100% loyal beyond any doubt, should be removed. Sadly and tellingly, the Muslim community is at best silent about what happens here and abroad vis a vis Islamofascism when they should be in a full-throated cry renouncing the violence committed in their name. The only voices we seem to hear are those from CAIR, the ACLU and the other usual leftists Quislings.
Oh, and did I mention that it was President Franklin Roosevelt (D/Progressive-NY) who instituted the internment camps?
J.J. Sefton on February 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM
May God Bless him, and everyone in your family.
Geochelone on February 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM
Agreed, it does need further consideration. The Japanese, however, were loyal to this country first, unlke most muslims whose first loyalty is to Islam. So even a putative all muslim batallion might not work.
Friendly21 on February 19, 2010 at 6:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_religious_test_clause
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Exercise_Clause_of_the_First_Amendment
Proud Rino on February 19, 2010 at 7:40 AM
SHOCKER! Islamists trying to kill American Soldiers on our own soil…geee thats never happend before!
OH WAIT!
Great_Red_Dragon on February 19, 2010 at 7:47 AM
Proud Rino on February 19, 2010 at 7:59 AM
COVER Up, Bigtime, as Dick Cheney would say
georgealbert on February 19, 2010 at 8:52 AM
The EXACT same phrase used to be used for Jews and Catholics. I’ve had it leveled at me personally during my past as a monk. This isn’t mind-changing or conversation winning argument.
dieudonne on February 19, 2010 at 9:29 AM
That’s easy enough to check out given online access to obituaries/Stars&Stripes/family blogs/etc. It would certainly make you the darling of the blogosphere if you collected the data to show that it was true… No need to leave it up to speculation and sensationalism.
dieudonne on February 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Arabic as a first language…what are they trying to get us to assume here? Looks like the Army needs a bigger broom.
Kissmygrits on February 19, 2010 at 9:38 AM
.
It’s not only Ft. Hood, this allegedly happened within a couple of days of the underwear bomber.
THAT’S the reason it was muzzled, orders from on high.
mrt721 on February 19, 2010 at 10:10 AM
This was hushed up fairly quickly after it happened. It was about an hour from Ft Jackson.
TugboatPhil on February 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Secrecy makes sense.
Obama doesn’t want it to ‘look like’ we’re at war.
The underwear bomber really cramped Obama’s style.
bridgetown on February 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Thanks! I knew I remembered hearing something about this some time back and could not remember where. Thanks for posting this.
+1 to Southern Gent. Some things are just evident and common sense. I agree with you on Muslims not being able to overall function in our military. Just look at the number of Iraqis and Afghans who supposedly were on our side, but who ended up killing members of our military. What I really do not get on this is the fact that our military has performed more good acts for Muslims than Muslims themselves. The Suni and Shia beat and bang on each other, we come in to stop the killings, and we are in turn rewarded by suicide bombers.
Of course not all Muslims are hell bent to kill us or others. However, there are fewer of them than there are of those who want to wage war with those not of their belief. Historically Muslims have earned the reputation they currently have, and if the military cannot realize this, we will continue to see our glorious military in grave danger both here at home and overseas.
freeus on February 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM
dieudonne on February 19, 2010 at 9:29 AM
The fact that you are offended doesn’t make it less true. I am a traditionalist Catholic and I also put God and Church over loyalty to the nation, any good Catholic must. However there is rarely a conflict between the two since Americans are the children of Europe who in turn is the child of the Church. Christian values thus (still) permeate American culture although the Christian influence is on a steep decline. Another counter argument to your victimhood is that Christianity is a force for good while islam (not jsut muslims, but the religion itself) iss intrinsically evil and destructive. Not all religions are born equal. The perverse and satanic cult of islam must be eradicated not only in the Western world but in the muslim world as well or this planet will never see peace. If this can happen by reason and conversion so much better but we do not live in fantasy land so we ahve to realize that it will take generations of warfare or a few strategic nuclear bombs to get rid of the problem once and for all.
JC Silverberg on February 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM
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