PPP poll: Romney now biggest threat to Obama head to head
posted at 9:08 pm on February 18, 2010 by Allahpundit
I post their dopey match-up poll every month, and every month — unfailingly — it’s Huckabee who does best against The One.
After trailing in one of the hypothetical match ups on our monthly 2012 poll for the first timein January, Obama is back ahead of all the potential 2012 hopefuls. He’s up 45-43 on Mitt Romney, 46-43 on Mike Huckabee, 50-43 on Sarah Palin, and 46-28 on John Thune.
For Romney this is his first time flying solo as the closest Republican to Obama. In the previous ten polls Huckabee was the closest nine times and the tenth was a tie between Huckabee and Romney. The former Massachusetts Governor fares the best of the GOP contenders among independents, leading Obama 43-38…
Palin continues to be the weakest of the leading trio of Republicans. Where Romney and Huckabee hold small leads with independents she trails by 10 points. She also loses 14% of the Republican vote to Obama compared to only 10% for Romney and 11% for Huckabee.
I have no explanation for Mitt’s surge (or is it Huck’s decline?) except that, the more ObamaCare recedes as the burning policy issue of the day, the more RomneyCare fades as a burning policy issue in the minds of conservatives. Which is to say, the Democrats aren’t the only ones desperate to put health care in the rearview mirror. As for Sarahcuda, she’s a point closer to Obama than she was last month, but 34 percent of voters think she’s too conservative compared to 22 percent for Mitt and 24 percent for Huck. As always in these polls, a big part of that difference is name recognition: Undecideds simply don’t realize yet how conservative Romney and Huckabee are, and once they do, those numbers will even out. But this, needless to say, is more problematic:
That’s not as bad as those gruesome ABC/WaPo numbers from last week — in fact, PPP found that 22 percent of those who say she’s unqualified would still vote for her over Captain B+ — but there’s less time to turn those numbers around than you may think. The primary campaign will start rolling a year from now and should be in full swing in about 16 months. Palin’s got a sweet platform at Fox News to show off some policy knowledge before then, but images don’t change overnight. If she’s thinking of running, time’s a-wasting.
One other footnote worth mentioning, if only for Chris Matthews’s sake. Despite what the MSNBC crowd would have you believe about Palin being some sort of white icon, she actually polls worse among whites head to head with Obama than Huck and Mitt do. Obama/Palin split 41/51 versus 33/53 for Obama/Romney and 36/53 for Obama/Huckabee. So much for that narrative.
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Sarah Palin’s been out there taking a vocal and visible stance against NObama and his disastrous, Socialist programs and policies while Mitt has had his hair trimmed and styled several times.
‘Nuff said.
Jenfidel on February 18, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Chavez got in and stays in because he redistributes the country’s wealth and gives it to the poor campesinos who outnumber the producers…but he’s running out of their money so he’s been nationalizing and taking over business i.e. Excite…
Romney ran for two years last time and couldn’t sell himself…what has changed? If he gets nominated I see the Democrats pulling out flip flops at their convention! He smacks of insincerity and couldn’t get 50 people to come see him even giving away free pizza…
So don’t try that rally call with us… we’re too sophisticated for that (at least most of us)
CCRWM on February 18, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Yeah, given that financial-acumen criterion, there should be a movement somewhere to draft Warren Buffett.
ddrintn on February 18, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Here are the Intrade odds on the 2012 GOP nominee.
OhioCoastie on February 18, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Do you consider Romney to be a squish? As I said upthread, it is rumored that he is going to repackage himself as a fiscal conservative and social moderate now. If he does that, he’ll totally own the flip-flop label and will go down hard I predict.
KickandSwimMom on February 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Who cares about Romney against Obama. First Romney has to get the nomination.
Let’s look at the PPP in a different light
Favorable – Conservatives
Sarah 69
Huck 57
Mitt 51
Thune 8
Favorable – McCain voters
Sarah 74
62Huck
Mitt 57
Thune 8
Favorable – All
Sarah 39
Mitt 37
Huck 35
Thune 5
We all know that the republican debates will be watched by as many people as the Biden and Palin debate.
The debates will decide who takes on Obama nd anot stupid polls that are 2 + years out.
And we know that when Gov. Palin has to deliver she delivers.
But I like how the left and the right spend so much of their time trying to take a mother of five out.
Remember when it comes to Sarah the norm is no longer the norm.
oldyeller on February 18, 2010 at 10:26 PM
The media wanted John McCain in 2008 so they continued to give him more coverage than he should’ve gotten. The media barely covered Mitt at all back then and still doesn’t cover him nearly as much as another “front-runner” Most voters traditionally vote partially because they think they should. However, they don’t know much about the candidates so they end up voting for the one they “know”
Anyway, since the media isn’t covering this much, you can see it for yourself at http://mittromneycentral.com/resources/books-by-mitt-romney/no-apology-the-case-for-american-greatness/
dnlchisholm on February 18, 2010 at 10:26 PM
“Republicans” who would vote for Obama over Romney, Huckabee or Palin don’t exist. These polls are not reliable as is shown by the claim that Obama beats all 3 but not an unknown generic Republican.
Basilsbest on February 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM
A flip-flopper is, by my definition, a squish. So yes, any way I look at him, Romney is a squish.
pugwriter on February 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM
Yep. And if Palin chooses to run, I just don’t see Romney coming anywhere near her as a campaigner.
ddrintn on February 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM
What substance exactly does Romney communicate? Masscare? Flip flopping on abortion? A record like Jon Corzine?
Pawlenty is a RINO too and I don’t mind him because he’s a decent guy. Everyone deserves a chance to throw their hat in the ring and Pawlenty is making a sincere case for himself unlike Romney who’ll let his satanic minions do the dirty work while he sits back and enjoys the show. He’s not to be trusted.
As for party splitting, let me get this straight. It’s the elites whoa re throwing tantrums, the elites in the GOP who are saying they would vote for Obama if Palin gets nominated but somehow the rest of us have to play nice for Romney. We will return fire with fire. If Romney gets nomination after spreading such sleaze, he’ll have the whole of Palin’s base sitting home. Appeals to patriotism or waving the Obama scarecrow won’t work.
promachus on February 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM
These polls are ridiculous. Romney is no danger to Obama. The media will nuke him the same as before, and evangelicals won’t vote for Romney. People like me who don’t like a weather-vane politician won’t vote for Romney either. Plus, Romney’s big claim to fame is the Olympics; the consequences of his health care reform in MA, disastrous. The tide of political affairs is against Romney and these big government GOPers who are now changing their mouths to stay relevant. Obama’s biggest threat remains Palin.
SilentWatcher on February 18, 2010 at 10:30 PM
Huck? YIKES!!!!! Thune…good…but SNORE!! Mitt and I am out. Sarah can’t possibly sign on for a Romney/Palin ticket. She needs to be VP for an “experienced outsider”? But where oh where is that person????
Dan Pet on February 18, 2010 at 10:30 PM
Look, I supported Romney the last go round, but if he tries to pull a flip-flop on his positions, he’ll deserve to be defeated. He spent a ton of time last election cycle trying to convince the base that he was conservative enough. Now, he’s going to tell us that he’s had another epiphany and his views have changed again? Won’t fly.
KickandSwimMom on February 18, 2010 at 10:30 PM
I am a lot less confident that will happen. It would be nice, but just not very likely.
sharrukin on February 18, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Uh…got any proof? Sarah actually has a verifiable record…just sayin’
CCRWM on February 18, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Romney’s moving up because people saw that he helped Scott Brown.
notagool on February 18, 2010 at 10:31 PM
I understand its tough. W. tried to fix SS but was stopped by the dims. But with 14.5 trillion dollar and growing deficit and entitlements about to consume our entire GDP something will have to be done and Sarah Palin has shown the stones to do it.
The only one who has cut, who has banned lobbyists, who has built a pipeline, sold off the perks of office her REPUBLICAN pedecessor put into place.
The one who knows Oil, Gas, energy and can get us ramped up to use our abundant resources to produce us out of recession!
Sarah WILL do whats’ right but will need the American people behind her else we become a socialist state workin our lives away for a government that gives all we make away to its chosen ones.
dhunter on February 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM
LOL…I like you…:)
CCRWM on February 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM
This from over at Instapundit, from a reader: “UPDATE: Reader C.J. Burch emails: “Romney needs to get right on the gun issue, fast. Distance himself from the health care problems in Mass, too.”
Romney needs to get right on the gun issue, fast? That’s changing winds again. Run from health care problems in MA? He created them!
So, Burch is recommending that Romney repackage himself to fool voters. Nice. On the issues, Sarah Palin needs no repackaging.
SilentWatcher on February 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM
I just figure all the white men with hang-ups will vote for Romney, and I’ll stay home. There is nothing about him that would compel me to leave my house on election day, since he stands for nothing. Mitt Romney is a big fake.
chunderroad on February 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM
The respondents were registered voters, not likely voters. Discount accordingly, people.
OhioCoastie on February 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Welcome back Jen.
thomasaur on February 18, 2010 at 10:35 PM
I don’t think so either, which is why we should prepare for a steady drumbeat of “Romney’s the only one with a realistic chance to beat Obama” stuff for the next 2+ years.
ddrintn on February 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM
No offense but don’t you thnk we know who Romney is? He did run in 2008 and we researched him then… No need to post his camapign video… The media isn’t focusing on him because he isn’t doing anything!
CCRWM on February 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Nuff said.
Thanks, guys!
Only an AP threat of pushing more Mittens as the GOP nominee got me out of lurking mode…
Jenfidel on February 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Sarah Palin will never be number 2 on a ticket again.
I read somewhere there are 40-45 million families with special needs children.
Lets see 47 million voted for the McCain/Palin ticket.
oldyeller on February 18, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Dude, what planet are you on? Trash his family…Do you work for MSNBC? We get it, you don’t like the guy…
Nozzle on February 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Sarah Palin will savage her debate opponents with a happy smile. She’ll clean their clocks and what will they come against her with? Her resignation of the governorship? Remember, Charles Krauthammer said that that quitter Evan Bayh made a smart move cuz he’s positioned now for the presidency. You think Palin won’t chew them up if they raise her resignation? She’ll research them and hammer them. She’s not called Sarah Barracuda for nothing. People out there busy talking about what Palin doesn’t have and how she should be VP to some non-existent super MAN candidate need to get the wax out of their heads. Why should she settle for second place so some MAN can be POTUS? What do the others have that she doesn’t? Heck, her balls going up against Obama are bigger than theirs. Palin mocks Obama in such a way that he’s not found a response to her. When she goes one on one with him at the presidential debates, he’ll try to do the same but will flop because while her mean comes off as cheerful and funny, his mean comes off as nasty and condescending (“you’re likable enough, Hillary.”). None of the guys have probed and slammed Obama in his weak spots like Palin has. They’ve all been busy worrying about being called racist—who benefits from that but Obama? Palin? She’s taken the fight to him again and again. All he can do is attack her children through his lapdogs in the media.
SilentWatcher on February 18, 2010 at 10:43 PM
“satanic minions”? Look, I’m no fan of Romney either, but you have to look at the big picture and not just what you want.
I think he’s a phony, too. But I don’t see Palin having the substanive chops right now. That’s her problem. IF she studies up and can put out some really strong points and ideas, she’s it. But she hasn’t done that -yet-.
Huck won’t happen. Nobody else has the nationa exposure and following. It’s pretty slim pickings right now.
Palin says she’ll go whereever opportunity awaits for her.
Unless she’s a great actress she really doesn’t seem hell bent on being president. Maybe she is and she’s got a great poker face. But if Romney convinced the country out there beyond this site that he had the chops to fix the economy, and he called her up, she’d probably say yes.
Her problem is she’s naturally suited for the top position, but she has to fight her image.
She can completely change her image in the next couple years if she tries.
If not, then it’s gonna be Romney with this site knashing it’s teeth (except for AP).
I don’t like him, you don’t like him but he’s better then the socialists on the other side.
B Man on February 18, 2010 at 10:43 PM
That would be sweet. It would also be, as The One is wont to say, unprecedented.
July 10 on February 18, 2010 at 10:44 PM
“Nice” to see John Thune getting some attention. Just like the Hillbuzz boyzz predicted.
SouthernGent on February 18, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Instead of trashing each other we need to trash the pollsters for their faulty and skewed methodology and the MSM for their disinformation and propaganda.
technopeasant on February 18, 2010 at 10:45 PM
And tomorrow they’ll be telling us how Romney or Pawlenty can win!
Yeah, right. Cheney/Buchanan would get more votes.
lonestar1 on February 18, 2010 at 10:45 PM
“we should prepare for a steady drumbeat of “Romney’s the only one with a realistic chance to beat Obama” stuff for the next 2+ years.
ddrintn on February 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM”
They can beat that drum, boys, beat that drum. It’ll get them nowhere! Let them talk up Romney. Sarah Palin will be busy pounding Obama and consolidating her position with the electorate. Nobody trusts Romney cuz he’s shown he lacks core principles. He’s too variable. Too RINO. This is no time for RINO’s.
SilentWatcher on February 18, 2010 at 10:46 PM
Strong points and ideas like less government and lower taxes. It doesn’t take an Ivy League degree to get those across.
Wasn’t that our 2008 campaign slogan?
ddrintn on February 18, 2010 at 10:47 PM
Its like this:
I don’t need to wonder where Palin stands on God, Guts, Guns!
I don’t need to wonder where Palin stands on Abortion, Reform or energy!
I don’t need to wonder where Palin stands on States rights, Lobbyists, or corrupt politicians!
She’s been standin there a long time and has the scars and the callouses to show for it.
She has takin all they have thrown at her and is still takin the fight to the enmy more effectively than any other!
Who else can you say those things about?
Juan McShame, Mitt Romney, Huckelberry, Newt, who?
dhunter on February 18, 2010 at 10:48 PM
I really don’t think she wants to run anyway.
I don’t think I want her to run..not this time around anyway.
Too much of a distraction from the real issues. I think this time around she serves a much more important role doing and being what she has been since the last election.
The engine to the conservative Ferrari.
Handel on February 18, 2010 at 10:48 PM
The deck was always stacked against us in ’08. It just was. McCain ran an awful campaign to boot.
’12 won’t be like ’08 for us.
B Man on February 18, 2010 at 10:53 PM
I think Mitt’s getting some of the glow/aura from Brown’s “Mass. RINO” wave.
DaveS on February 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM
The lobbyists have financial geniuses working for them and writing legislation making up a $3.5T budget. The President needs to be adept enough to understand which cuts he can push through while not damaging the $14T economy.
Mitt at least has experience downsizing companies and subsequently increasing their value.
The first problem with the US government is that only 12% of the budget is non-defense discretionary.
dedalus on February 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM
From your keyboard to God’s ears!
KickandSwimMom on February 18, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Less gov’t and lower taxes is fine for here but when she’s asked specifically what her tax proposals would be, that won’t cut it.
Or on the other hand maybe this country will be so desperate to get rid of the dems that the country won’t care about specifics.
You never know.
It doesn’t take a genius to say we need lower taxes and less gov’t. Everybody knows that.
B Man on February 18, 2010 at 11:02 PM
Well, of the three frontrunners, Palin is the only one who actually has a record of cutting spending. Perhaps the problem is that the only people we consider worthy of the nomination are those who “want to be President.” Palin just wants to serve. For that reason alone she has my support.
NoLeftTurn on February 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM
It apparently cuts it for Romney and Huckabee. I don’t see streams of “serious policy” coming from them, either. It’s not quite as expected of them, for some reason.
ddrintn on February 18, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Huck is not a serious contender for president. Only in his world is he a contender. It’s stupid for him to even think that he could be president.
Well it sucks that Palin has a worse image nationally then Romney has but that’s the fact.
Some of the people on this site might be disappointed by what she ends up doing. Like she’s absolutely positively running, it’s a done deal and all that. Gotta step back a little with her.
I want her to run; I want her to kick O’s a$$, watching them in a debate would be something I would pay for. Seriously. But sometimes it looks like I want her to be president more then she wants it.
B Man on February 18, 2010 at 11:21 PM
Any Republican will poll well among whites. The Palin narrative is that she will only poll well among redneck, gay killing, Klan belonging whites.
Speedwagon82 on February 18, 2010 at 11:25 PM
Exactly. We nutty Palinistas are supposed to shut up and get in line behind the establishment candidate. If we don’t, then we’re traitors who are responsible for 4 more years of Obama. Yet I see far more squishes and moderates and RINOs and just plain Palin haters saying they’ll be the ones staying home if she gets the nomination. In the headlines today, I had no sooner made this point than some “independent” comes in and warns that if we nominate Palin she will prop up her feet on election day and stay home from the polls. So who is it that is cutting off our collective nose to spite our face? Not the Palinistas that I can see.
NoLeftTurn on February 18, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Exactly. On paper, McCain was a decent candidate. But he was simply too old and out of it to compete against someone like Obama on the campaign trail. He made a lot of mistakes that the McCain of 2000 wouldn’t have.
Speedwagon82 on February 18, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Honestly, Palin’s been such an intriguing public figure of late that for about about an hour, during one of her speeches, I forgot she was white.
RINO in Name Only on February 18, 2010 at 11:43 PM
Just wait until the people start seeing more of the guy who gave the stump speech at CPAC today… Impressive… All the energy and passion that was missing in 2008…
This was the high-power CEO that the Mitt-bots expected in 2008 but never showed up (myself included)… Great mix of industrial history, financial and budgetary principals…. He’ll be the clear front runner by this November
phreshone on February 18, 2010 at 11:51 PM
You want the winning ticket, here it is:
Cheney/Hunter
As in Dick Cheney and Duncan Hunter. Now there is a ticket I can really get behind.
HalSandro on February 19, 2010 at 12:03 AM
McCain redux?
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2010 at 12:23 AM
The danger is not in Mitt losing to Obama.
The danger is if he wins. Then we get a gutless moderate who will not be able to stop federal spending.
GUTS and COURAGE is what the country will need in 2012. ONLY Sarah and DeMint have it. And of those two, only Sarah will beat Obama.
All Sarah has to do is win the GOP Primary. Then it is a choice between an Obama 2nd term or Sarah.
And, if America is stupid enough to elect Obama AGAIN, then I say F*CK AMERICA.
Sapwolf on February 19, 2010 at 12:24 AM
By the way, EVERY person I have talked to who believes Sarah is unqualified to be POTUS admitted that if she won the GOP primary and ran against Obama, they would vote FOR Sarah, despite their not believing she had enough experience.
Sapwolf on February 19, 2010 at 12:27 AM
There seems to be a different standard for Sarah than I’ve ever seen before. It’s like if you don’t have a d**k you are not qualified. I’ve never heard it said of any candidate other than Sarah that they weren’t qualified or didn’t have enough experience. It sounds totally sexist to me.
silvernana on February 19, 2010 at 1:08 AM
First let’s stop the myth that Willard is some sort of financial genius, because he’s NOT.
Second, he’s another BIG Government nanny state PROGRESSIVE Republican. The guy made RomneyCare law. That’s basically the blueprint for ObamaCare. It’s bankrupting Mass!
You elect someone like Romney (or Pence or Thune) or any of these chuckleheads and it will only be more of the same.
On the other hand, Sarah Palin has a SOLID record of slashing budgets and saving money. Alaska was every bit as corrupt as Chicago, and she went in there and cleaned that mess up in short order.
Something else about Sarah…something she has that none of these other idiots have. Sarah is smart enough to know what she doesn’t know. The others are not. And THAT my friends is one of the most important traits a leader can have!
Romney, Huckabee, and the rest of these losers need to just pack it in. They are only more of the same.
Sarah Palin has ALREADY done in Alaska what needs to be done nationally.
We need a REAL leader, not a pretty boy with good hair and a fake tan! Accept no substitutes.
gary4205 on February 19, 2010 at 1:13 AM
No Left Turn…
I’m the “independent” you are getting snarky about, and you can take your condescension and put it where the sun don’t shine.
I will NEVER vote for someone who I sincerely believe is unqualified to be POTUS. That’s why I didn’t vote for Obama, and that’s why I wouldn’t vote for Palin.
And there is something wrong with ME?
Palin can’t win a national election. If the Republicans are idiotic enough to nominate her in 2012, they deserve to lose. And God help the country.
I understand why people like her. I don’t understand why some on the right–many of whom dwelleth here–take leave of their senses over her, just like I don’t understand the Obama insanity on the left.
Truthfully, the more I see her, the less I like her. She is getting full of herself, loving the spotlight, craving attention and even adulation. Reminds me of our current POTUS. And like Obama, she is getting thin-skinned, feeling the need to respond to every slight, real or perceived. Why the drama over Family Guy? She’s got to let some of this stuff start rolling off her back, or no one will take her seriously. Of course, in my view, that ship has already sailed.
And the way she is most like Obama? They are both, first and foremost, celebrities. All style, no substance.
I agree with those who say Palin is a terrific mascot for the conservative movement. But anything above that role would be an egregious example of the Peter Principle.
HA is becoming all Palin all the time. Those of us who aren’t Palinistas are constantly insulted and treated like we’re stupid. If we can’t appreciate Palin for the New New Messiah she is, we should just go away, right? Don’t worry, more and more of us will. And we’ll take our votes with us.
No wonder most of the country is fed up with both parties, neither of which has any tolerance for the “big tent” idea. There is no room for anyone but the extremists.
This country is well and truly screwed.
Meredith on February 19, 2010 at 2:03 AM
Sorry, we vote only American.
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 2:04 AM
Obviously Sarah has to be on the ticket or there will be an uprising. I’m not sure that is good.
I’m afraid charisma is trumping experience again.
The country can do without charisma but we need experience! We need the judgement that you only gain from experience making really really tough decisions and having to answer for the consequences over a long period of time. Not a few years. It hasn’t even been long enough to see the real consequences from her decisions as governor.
Are we really going to trade one charismatic leader for another? I want substance. I long for substance. I long to know everything is thought out carefully. I don’t’ get that from Sarah yet.
That doesn’t mean she wouldn’t be better than Obama. Of course she would. How could she be worse. What if she was worse. What if she isn’t everything her supporters think she is. What if we are blinded the way the left was blinded by Obama. What if we are seeing in her what we want to be true, not what really is true…
It is dangerous to pick someone who hasn’t proven themselves over the long haul. It is dangerous to pick someone like Obama. Sarah may be our side’s Obama. Her supporters certainly don’t like to find anything at all to criticize.
I can honestly say I have never liked a politician well enough I couldn’t come up with arguments against them. I simply force myself to try to see their faults too.
I like Sarah. I think she is right about lots of stuff, but dang it, she doesn’t have the qualifications! And the office of the President isn’t the place to come up against tough tough problems for the first time in your life!
I’d love to see her as President some day. But later when she has been an executive of something for longer than the few years she was governor. She just hasn’t run anything.
This is not just a popularity contest. This is not American idol. The decisions the next President will make will affect my life and the my children’s life.
With all that. I would have to vote for her over Obama. There are very few people I wouldn’t vote for over Obama.
petunia on February 19, 2010 at 2:12 AM
Honey, you’re the one who is so rabidly anti-Palin that you’re talking about staying home in 2012 if she wins the nomination. You’d rather give us 4 more years of Obama rather than vote for a woman with solid conservative street cred just because you don’t like her? But we’re the ones who are unhinged?
You just keep telling yourself that. I’m not the one who pledges to take my ball and go home if my candidate doesn’t get the nomination. The blame for the divisiveness in this big tent can be squarely laid at the feet of folks like you, not me.
NoLeftTurn on February 19, 2010 at 2:12 AM
I can just see the drive by media working on that one.
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 2:14 AM
The big tent has put the United States on the brink of economic collapse and you want more of the same? Ya, well and truly screwed by people like you!
sharrukin on February 19, 2010 at 2:14 AM
Why doesn’t anyone bring up Haley Barbour. Everytime I see him I think… he could be President. But nobody else seems to notice him.
Does he have a past I don’t know about? He is doing a pretty good job down there isn’t he?
And no one talks about Jindahl anymore either. I liked that speech everyone hated. I listened more than I watched and with just the sound I really liked it.
petunia on February 19, 2010 at 2:17 AM
meredith and petunia prove my theory that some women are too irrational to vote.
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 2:18 AM
You do realize that you’re doing the petulant whine now?
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 2:24 AM
And you prove that you are blind when it comes to Sarah’s faults. You are following her religiously. That is the kind of thinking that led to the mess we are in today.
We have to make better decisions when we vote. Charisma is bad.
And really I said I would have to vote for her. And somehow that makes me irrational and not you? Perhaps you should buy a dictionary.
And perhaps you should ask your self if you have ever been wrong before and if there is any chance at all that having a women with as little experience as Sarah has could lead to problems similar to the ones we have right now with Obama.
Can you really not see the forest for the trees. I admire what Sarah has done so far in her life… but I do not see a great President in her yet.
I really don’t see much difference between the way you react to any unglowing analysis of Sarah and the way people fainted at Obama’s speeches.
Being twitterpated by a politician is just stupid.
Both are very creepy.
Don’t bother answering… I’m going to bed.
petunia on February 19, 2010 at 2:29 AM
So now you’re going to throw in some misogynism, atheling, just for good measure?
Excuse me for saying so, but that sounds a bit…I don’t know…irrational?
But thanks for proving my point that those who refuse to worship at the Palin altar are not welcome here.
Meredith on February 19, 2010 at 2:34 AM
Good one, petunia.
Meredith on February 19, 2010 at 2:35 AM
Thanks for painting everyone with the same brush and proving you’re as irrational and one-sided as you accuse the others of being.
NoLeftTurn on February 19, 2010 at 2:43 AM
You just don’t get it.
Palin has executive experience with a true conservative track record. She has been slamming this administration’s dangerous and foolish policies and laying out her own, which work for me.
I assure you, that if she became a big spending, bowing-to-kings liberal, she’d be dropped by all of us.
The fact that you can’t discern that tells me that you have some kind of personal axe to grind with Palin. And with most women, it’s usually just something as petty as jealousy. Night night.
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 2:56 AM
Honey, the length and rabidness of your post about Palin proves only one thing: you can take the girl out of high school, but you can’t take the high school out of the girl.
And how am I a misogynist if I support a woman presidential candidate? Who is not thinking too rationally now?
atheling on February 19, 2010 at 2:59 AM
Fortunately the Hot-air naysayers here reflect a small vocal fringe.
Romney will do just fine.
scotash on February 19, 2010 at 3:40 AM
John McCain did just fine, and so did Bob Dole.
sharrukin on February 19, 2010 at 3:51 AM
I prefer Romney to Huckabee, so I’m pleased to see a dent to Huckabee’s top argument (that he’s the most electable Republican nominee), but Romney doing one point better than Huckabee isn’t much of a difference from Huckabee doing one point better than Romney. This stuff is well within the survey’s margin of error, so it’s entirely possible that there has been no Romney surge/ Huckabee decline.
Mister Mets on February 19, 2010 at 3:53 AM
jihadist
Can we say this word? Every time I try to post a quote it doesn’t show up?
sharrukin on February 19, 2010 at 3:55 AM
Mitt Romney on Islam.
Jihad not part of Islam
sharrukin on February 19, 2010 at 4:01 AM
Does this mean women are too irrational to become President, too?
entropent on February 19, 2010 at 4:19 AM
I like Sarah, but she is not at all qualified. Yes, I know, she has the right idea on most issues, but lacks the depth of knowledge needed. We are going to need a strong, financially savvy leader to even think about recovering from the mess that Bambi is leaving in his wake.
I think that Romney may well be that leader.
MJBrutus on February 19, 2010 at 4:53 AM
She’s the only reason I voted for McCain. I had “Palin 2008″ bumper stickers made up online. But the bloom is off the rose for me, I think, as well. She has little more time in office than Obama did, although it was a governorship, where she did well and was able to prove her executive experience. Yet a few small time bloggers and local politicians were able to harrass her to the point that she resigned. For me, that’s not a good sign.
I don’t fault her for doing the grand book tour and making some money. I bought her book, too. But it’s essentially a memoir, not a policy tome. Reagan spent years laying out his political theory before he made his run.
She is definitely not thin-skinned, or by now she would be in a permanent fetal position from all the hate. I think she was right to respond to a politician’s insensitive remark, but she made a mistake when she allowed O’Reilly to drag her into a debate about Family Guy. Remember, there is no such thing as bad publicity in Hollywood. All anyone has to do to grab headlines now is to make gutter jokes. Bill Maher, anyone?
I do not believe she will be the nominee, because I do not think she will run. I think she signalled this when she joined Fox as a talking head. She’s young yet.
entropent on February 19, 2010 at 5:01 AM
I think I could manage a Huckabee vote with heavy duty noseplugs, but Romney is a bridge too far. I wouldn’t rule out voting for him in a general, but I can’t imagine that right now.
TonyR on February 19, 2010 at 5:04 AM
MIttens can’t win. He’s a Mormon. He believes in that silly Joseph Smith and the Scrying device fable of a white Jesus in America who apparently hid from the native peoples and was only revealed to exist to Joseph Smith.
He’s a kook. He can’t win. We need a candidate who can beat Obama – not a nutjob Mormon.
Mr Purple on February 19, 2010 at 6:28 AM
Is that any sillier than babbling unintelligibly and calling it the Spirit? Any sillier than thinking the earth is 6000 years old? Any sillier than believing you are going to ride a white horse out of the sky with Jesus? Really? Faith is personal. Leave it alone.
entropent on February 19, 2010 at 6:45 AM
No Left Turn…I see you’re doubling down on the condescension. I am not your “honey.” Nor yours, atheling.
Neither of you can disagree with someone without being a sanctimonious jerk. Let me guess. You post from your dorm rooms when you tire of playing video games. That’s the maturity level of your “wisdom.”
And you, NLT, don’t read real good. I said I couldn’t vote for Palin because she isn’t qualified, not because I don’t like her. I’ve voted for plenty of candidates I didn’t like. But I would never vote for someone I thought wasn’t up to the job. That’s irresponsible, and we’ve seen what havoc irresponsible voters can cause. (“Obama has such beautiful eyes.” “He’s gonna pay my mortgage!”)
It’s beyond belief that so many of you can’t see that you are as deluded about Palin as the Obamabots are about their guy. And yet you think I’m the irrational one.
Then we have the bonafide religious bigot who thinks Romney is a nutjob. Take a look in the mirror.
Quite a collection here at HA. And here I thought the freak show was over at Kos and HuffPo.
Meredith on February 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM
Agree on the religion thing entropent. Who knows what Mitt really believes? I’m a Catholic. I don’t go to church most Sundays, am pro-choice, practice pre-marital sex, practice birth control, and eat hamburgers on Friday. I pretty much believe in the rest of it. How much I believe or don’t believe is nobody’s business. How much Mitt believes or doesn’t believe is nobody’s business.
The Palin adulation here is because she’s anti-abortion. Unless she outright states she’ll leave Roe v. Wade alone, there’s no way in hell she’ll get the Woman vote.She’s also an evangelical. That video of her on Youtube getting blessed by a witchdoctor isn’t going to do her any favors either. All the Sarah support here is primarily a anti-abortion stance, period. Either way, I’m voting for anyone that isn’t Obama. I’ll take a Mormon or an anti-abortion evangelical over a communist any day of the week. Unless you want four more years of Progressive Socialism, some of the thinking on here better get a lot more flexable……
adamsmith on February 19, 2010 at 7:20 AM
I’d like to see Romney with a cabinet post, or possibly as VP. But I’d like Gen’l Sherman for Pres.
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 7:24 AM
Does Mittens really think Southerners will vote for a Mormon?
Decider on February 19, 2010 at 7:24 AM
btw, OT, but it seems Ogabe has decided on Reconciliation.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/19/obama-keeps-democratic-health-option-open/
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 7:26 AM
Then I guess Gen’l Sherman’s out too. Is there a Southern son-of-a-bit*h who knows how to destroy the enemy, domestic and foreign?
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 7:28 AM
These numbers are simply too close to be significant. They are within statistical error rates.
I’d say this is a poll story that is overblowing the interpretation.
AnninCA on February 19, 2010 at 7:35 AM
It’s 4:35 am in California.
JiangxiDad on February 19, 2010 at 7:36 AM
What does “entropent” mean?
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 8:20 AM
Never mind.
Entropent, what does “entropent” mean?
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 8:21 AM
Your understanding of our support of Sarah Palin is about as shallow as your religion.
I’ll not vote for another McCain. (aka Romney)
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 8:25 AM
Pretty harsh words for someone who says, “Faith is personal. Leave it alone.”
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 8:27 AM
Mitt’s a great guy but his health care fiasco in Mass. killed him. He stands about as much chance of winning as Peanut’s Charlie Brown. Slick is out. Lies are out. Princeton Elite is out. Manipulation is out. George Will’s 2-foot thick briefing books on Albania are out. What’s in? Honesty. When our new President talks – people know it’s the truth. Who’s that? S. P. God bless her!
Cinday Blackburn on February 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM
Romney $ucks!
The same ole, same ole, tired, White Boy, Ivy League educated elite, “Let’s all get along to get along,” I waited my turn even though I’m a loser, it’s my turn to be nominated Bob Dole, John McCain Loser, we’re used to losing, we like having the DNC choose our candidate BORING L-O-S-E-R!
Been there done that.
Stop allowing the DNC to choose our nominee.
If it is anyone other than Palin instead of just staying home I’ll just vote for Dr. Utopia. That way Graham Nasty will get it about being the minority party forever.
No Mo RINO’s. No mas! Conservatives win.
The revolution is not just about throwing out the democrats. It’s about throwing out the RINO’s too.
I’m sick of stuck on stupid Republican elites.
Sarah went after the corrupt in her own party and according to the Republican establishment she committed a cardinal sin, we just don’t do that. Well, according to “We the People”, YES WE DO DO THAT AND MORE!
President Palin, get used to it or get used to being the minority party.
Palin is more qualified than Romney. Romney was a poor excuse for a governor, so was Huckabee and Pawlenty has the charisma of a dead fish. If Pawlenty was ice cream he is so flavorless he wouldn’t even be vanilla. Does he have any ideas that are his own? Losers all of them. Get real.
Jayrae on February 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM
You people don’t know Sarah Palin. Besides, who does have the “depth of knowledge” in every area. That’s why presidents, governors, and all intelligent people have advisors to assist them in making decisions.
If you want a “strong” leader, I wouldn’t think “Squish” Romney would be among your choices.
Maybe as an economic advisor, but just maybe.
There are better choices. Government economics, with a small goverment mindset, is quite a bit different from a corporation which seeks to make a profit.
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM
Great bumper sticker line:
No Mo
RINO!
davidk on February 19, 2010 at 8:41 AM
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