Number of Dem senators calling for public option now up to … 16

posted at 7:50 pm on February 18, 2010 by Allahpundit

I’m going to assume that Reid has already ruled this out categorically and what’s happening now is pure pandering to the left, but two days after writing this post, I still don’t see why this is such an insane gambit. Remember, according to PPP, most of the people who oppose O-Care are already committed to voting against the Dems this fall. They won’t take many more casualties by going to the wall on this and trying to push a public option through.

So, assuming they can manipulate their numbers enough to get CBO to score the public plan as somehow reducing the deficit, why not push?

Senators Barbara Boxer, Jack Reed and Tom Udall have all now signed the letter pushing for a reconcilation vote on the public option, the group organizing the push confirms, bringing the total of Senators now pushing for the vote to roughly a fourth of the Dem caucus.

That means the number of signatories to the letter, which calls on Harry Reid to allow a vote on the public option under reconcilation rules, has more than tripled in two days.

“Going from 0 to 4 to 14 senators on the record in 2 days?” Adam Green, a spokesman for the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, emails. “This is what momentum looks like.”…

What’s interesting here is that the range of Senators now signing the letter goes well beyond those who are conventional liberals or facing tough primary challenges. The ones to watch now: Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin, neither of whom have taken a position on this.

What’s giving Reid pause here, I assume, is the fact that he’d have to use reconciliation to pass the public option, which may be (a) procedurally impossible and (b) politically explosive. While the Dems have already taken the brunt of the hit by backing O-Care, it could be that there’s a faction of centrists out there that will tolerate them passing a bill, but only if they do it with the standard above-board 60 votes. If they try to do an end-around Scott Brown and the GOP by using reconciliation — which, interestingly, even Evan Bayh now tentatively supports — that might land them in deeper trouble with the public notwithstanding the popularity of the program they’re using reconciliation to pass. If Reid and The One ultimately keep the public option out, I’ll have to assume that’s why. Or am I missing some alternate explanation?

Exit question via Newt Gingrich: Is it time for the GOP to compromise? We hold (most of) the cards, so it’d be on our terms. I think.


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Exit question via Newt Gingrich: Is it time for the GOP to compromise? We hold (most of) the cards, so it’d be on our terms. I think.

Gingrich is an unmitigated effin moron.

Like I’ve always said:

To the GOP, winning is just another signal that it is time to surrender.

It’s just so sad.

seanrobins on February 18, 2010 at 11:28 PM

NO. Please burn this bill, take it’s ashes to the Potomac and sink it to the bottom.

Tort reform. Insurance across state lines.

journeyintothewhirlwind on February 18, 2010 at 11:30 PM

I read Newt’s comments in full. I don’t think he’s that far out of line. As political fanatics we all seem to forget that the average working stiff just wants a fair shake. You all want to play ‘gotcha’ politics and Newt’s trying to point out that there is truly a reason that many people feel some sort of health care reform is necessary. Republicans can continue to play divisive politics or they can control their fury long enough to act on behalf of their constituents. In other words, they should take the high road here and do the job they are paid to do. It doesn’t mean capitulating to the bills as currently written. It means actually trying to get something done for their fellow citizens. For example they could push for Paul Ryan’s alternatives.

Metanis on February 18, 2010 at 11:32 PM

Kill the bill!!!!!!!!!!!!

TN Mom on February 18, 2010 at 11:32 PM

Tort reform.

Truly free market.

Tax-advantaged health care savings accounts.

Did I mention tort reform?

Why won’t the Dem’s present a separate measure for tort reform on its own, to show good faith and common sense, and, you know, actually get something positive done?

Oh yeah. Follow the money, hillbillyjim.

Never mind.

hillbillyjim on February 18, 2010 at 11:45 PM

I read Newt’s comments in full. I don’t think he’s that far out of line. As political fanatics we all seem to forget that the average working stiff just wants a fair shake. You all want to play ‘gotcha’ politics and Newt’s trying to point out that there is truly a reason that many people feel some sort of health care reform is necessary. Republicans can continue to play divisive politics or they can control their fury long enough to act on behalf of their constituents. In other words, they should take the high road here and do the job they are paid to do. It doesn’t mean capitulating to the bills as currently written. It means actually trying to get something done for their fellow citizens. For example they could push for Paul Ryan’s alternatives.

Metanis on February 18, 2010 at 11:32 PM

The high road means not printing and borrowing money as if it grew on trees; not crippling a very good network of health care systems for a tottering monolith; and not robbing every adult in America by ordering them to buy something, like it or not, worth it or not. Preventing that damage is morally honorable and praiseworthy.

If you don’t believe that, that’s one thing… But I do know Republicans have been saying that for over a year now…if they cave just for the supposed honors of caving, then they HAVE been playing gotcha politics…and the Democrats will say so…

Chris_Balsz on February 18, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Exit question via Newt Gingrich: Is it time for the GOP to compromise? We hold (most of) the cards, so it’d be on our terms. I think.

Wow. Just when Newt had finished paying the podiatrist to remove a size NY23 foot from his mouth, he drops this gem. It’s as disgusting as it is flabbergasting. Just another mark in the “reasons never to vote for Gingrich” column. Let’s hope we all remember it when this vain man asks for our votes in the 2011 primary.

mizzoujgrad on February 18, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Let them try Reconciliation on this issue. It will be Political suicide for those stupid enough to buy into that mindset.

old trooper2 on February 19, 2010 at 6:34 AM

Allahpundit: “Exit question via Newt Gingrich: Is it time for the GOP to compromise? We hold (most of) the cards, so it’d be on our terms. I think.”

For someone so cynical and sarcastic as Allahpundit,
I find the suggestion that “we hold the cards” -
especially in the context of the Obama/Pelosi/Reid -Axis
to be naive, dangerous and simply stupid.

Lockstein13 on February 19, 2010 at 6:38 AM

The downside is energy.
I’m not sure how much energy such a move will add to the moonbats. They wanted full socialized medicine, anything less is still a letdown.
On the other hand those oppose it will be energized a white hot level.

A good part of Brown’s win was not that he won over the independants, but that the independants and Republican’s voted in record numbers for a special election, while the Democrats stayed home.

MarkTheGreat on February 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM

Its time we give them their performance reviews…..

bluegrass on February 19, 2010 at 8:38 AM

I believe Democrats don’t want a Public Option because it would be impossible to make work.

MayBee on February 18, 2010 at 7:54 PM

That’s why they want the public option, because it can’t work. For them, the plus is that in the process of failing, it will also bankrupt every private provider of health care in the country. At which point the Democrats get to declare that they were right, and only govt is capable of delivering health care to the masses.

MarkTheGreat on February 19, 2010 at 8:40 AM

Gingrich will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory if given even half a chance to gum things up.He needs to take John McCain and ride off into the sunset…..The sooner the better.

RealMc on February 19, 2010 at 8:40 AM

Why? I mean seriously.. why? Can I get a No in here?

upinak on February 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM

I believe johnsteele has used up all the no’s.

MarkTheGreat on February 19, 2010 at 8:41 AM

Up to 16 Senators now? Compared to last year when it was, I don’t know, OVER 40 of them!!!!! This is progress in your eyes?

Wake me when 40 Dhimmi Senators claim they want the public option. Then I’ll be reassured that the world is back to normal and the Dhimmicrats are all still just as stupid as Nancy and Harry can possibly make them. This is a tempest in a teapot. If they think using 51 votes to pass this will settle all us “redneck, racist, lily white teabaggers” down, then they obviously don’t understand the problem with this plan. Dhimmicrats are cowards who will fold as soon as somebody who won’t back down, with a conservative attitude, pokes their finger in their face.

Keep making fun of them and they’ll eventually be afraid to show their faces. Look at how even Barney Frank feels the need to defend his illogical and stupid positions now.

Keep yelling at them and showing them we ain’t gonna take it anymore. If they ignore that, there’s always a rope, tar and feathers.

Susbunk

Subsunk on February 19, 2010 at 8:41 AM

Exit question via Newt Gingrich: Is it time for the GOP to compromise? We hold (most of) the cards, so it’d be on our terms. I think.

What? Compromise on a suicide pact? That is just friggin brilliant ain’t it?

GOP: So you want to shoot me in temple?
Progressives: Yes.
GOP: How about we just eat the barrel of the pistol instead.
Progressives: Fine.
GOP: Compromise is a great thing.

I agree with Rubio…we work within the GOP. First thing we do is run these idiots out of the party.

Pilgrim on February 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM

This is all a faint to so the Democrats can give it up again.

J_Crater on February 19, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Scott Brown said it well on Cavuto last night, if the Dems try to ram it through with reconciliation now there will be a price to pay in November, a steep price

but the hubris it is endemic to this group

ginaswo on February 19, 2010 at 9:29 AM

Take the cyanide pill. I dare you. Probably really think MA was a fluke and recalls are not allowed. I wanna see you try. This is going to get really ugly. I’m going to get the popcorn and watch the citizens take back their country.

Sultry Beauty on February 19, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Why compromise when you are holding all the cards?

They got something? Let’s see what it is. Then we talk, not until then.

Give me a break. Don’t even discuss compromising at this point.

perries on February 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM

A compromise would allow Obama to go public in 2012 and cry Yes we can? Yes we did! If he gets the satisfaction of pushing through a reform bill and claiming victory, then the terms had better be pretty damn favorable, and unlikely to bankrupt the country even more than it is going to be.

Greek Fire on February 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Q. Who said the following:

We hold (most of) the cards, so it’d be on our terms. I think.

a. Sen. Mary Landreaux
b. Sen. Ben Nelson
c. Sitting Bull
d. Allahpundit

Chris_Balsz on February 19, 2010 at 12:23 PM

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