NTSB: Plane crash into Austin office building may have been intentional; Update: Pilot left manifesto?

posted at 1:07 pm on February 18, 2010 by Allahpundit

Intentional but likely not terrorism, which is fed-speak for “disgruntled nut lacking a political motive.”

Did he really lack a political motive, though? Hmmm.

An NTSB official told Fox News that they are investigating this as an intentional act, and said it appears the pilot set his own house on fire and then got in his plane and flew it into the building. An NTSB spokesman, however, told FoxNews.com that “we can’t confirm any of that.”

An Internal Revenue Service office is located inside the building.

Maybe the guy was blown off course. Or … maybe not:

William Winnie, an Internal Revenue Service agent, said he was in a training session on the third floor of the building when he saw a light-colored, single engine plane coming at the building.

“It looked like it was coming right in my window,” Winnie said. He said the plane veered down and to the left and crashed into the floors below. “I didn’t lose my footing, but it was enough to knock people who were sitting to the floor.”…

“It wasn’t heading into the direction of the building but all of a sudden it took a right and headed straight into it,” Whelan said. “It didn’t look like it was in distress. It wasn’t wavering at all.

Eyewitnesses say it came in at full throttle. Another federal official tells CNN that the pilot burned down his own home this morning and that the crash was indeed intentional, although his name and motive haven’t been released yet. And so the irresponsible speculation begins: Maybe there was a tax lien on the house and the guy decided that if he couldn’t live there, no one would? Or something even darker than that? Stand by for updates.

Update: The pilot is/was Joseph Andrew Stack. And the plane, according to AFP, was stolen. No wonder NORAD scrambled two F-16s.

Update: Business Insider claims that this is Stack’s website — and there’s a suicide note posted. Sounds like he had tax problems dating back decades and finally went berserk. Quote:

After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around…

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

The “Bush and his cronies are puppets of plutocrats” bit — and his contempt for the “joke we call the American medical system … [that's] murdering tens of thousands of people a year” — isn’t going to stop the media from blaming this on conservatives, is it? Ah well.

Update: Good lord. This nut may have set fire to his house with his family still inside.

The fire, which happened around 9:15 a.m. in the Scofield Farms neighborhood, destroyed the $236k home that belonged to Joseph Stack, a local pilot. Stack has not been located. Local officials have not confirmed to KXAN that there’s a connection. Joseph A. Stack is a registered pilot of a Piper PA 28-236.

A 12-year-old girl and a woman were rescued from the burning house. The girl is presumed to be to Stack’s stepdaughter.

Update: I missed this part at the very end of the manifesto, but JWF didn’t. Doesn’t sound very “tea party” to me:

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Update: My lefty pal Michael Roston scolds me for trying to place political blame vis-a-vis a nut whose political beliefs seem uncategorizable. I actually couldn’t agree more: I’m not calling the guy a leftist, merely stressing that he’s not some dogmatic right-winger either. But it ain’t my side that’s spent the better part of a year trying to frame tea partiers as some sort of racist neo-militia movement. Remember the fiasco over the Kentucky census worker murdered by conservatives — who wasn’t murdered by conservatives? I sure do. Roston, to his credit, urged caution at the time about jumping to any conclusions in that case, but a lot of his friends on the left weren’t so cautious. And given the early reaction at dKos and Democratic Underground, they’re ready to make the same mistake again.

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It is disturbing how easy it is for anyone to steal a small plane and fly it into a building before the Feds can do anything. But boy am I glad that our Homeland Security chief is so incredibly competent…oh wait. Well, at least the Deputy National Security Advisor responsible for Counterterrorism is so competent…oh wait… Oy!

rcpjr

Well should be be a police state and get rid of private aviation? I recall someone attacking a government office with a moving truck a while back, and its no harder to rent a truck or to go for a drive.

firepilot on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Yeah, this guy isn’t exactly a Tea Partier. From Mark’s link:

Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies.

Drug companies, insurance companies, and our health care system? Bad. Murderous.

It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

Profits? Bad.

wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy

Religious institutions like the Catholic church? Bad.

and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

That was one of Reagan’s biggest tax cuts.

And then this:

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

This guy was as anti-capitalist, anti-profit, anti-tax cut, and anti-American health care as he was anti-IRS.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

well its a prop plane and probablly uses 140 octane ( blue fuel )aviation gas .. flammable but not near as volatile as jet fuel .
the fuel weighs about 6.8 lbs per gallon and the aircraft appears to hold only 92 gallons so it may very well have had jet fuel, kerosene , fertilizer or some kind of accelerants on board .
If any of what is being reported is true then this guy didnt wake up this morning and decide to do this …..he pre planned it .
IF the aircraft is stolen there should be lots of questions how that could have happened . perhaps it is a plane this guy RENTED on a regular basis and he just took it

ELMO Q on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Oh joy, a general overall Nut job….

The Libs will link this to the tea party, and the Alex Jones nut cases will do the same in there own fashion…..

I’m not going to enjoy this…

Razgriez on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel.
- Rosie O’donnell

Seven Percent Solution on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

I live and work near there, but not near that building. I was downtown for a conference when the plane hit. Everybody is OK as far as I know. Prayers for those hurt or killed, and for those rescue personnel.

Sekhmet on February 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM

BobAnthony on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Hiya nutter!

dIb on February 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM

BobAnthony on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Wow dude.

Here’s some unsolicited advice for you…

SWITCH TO DECAF.

powerpro on February 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Why target the IRS employees, he would have been better off crashing into Charlie Rangel or Tim Geitners houses.

Daveyardbird on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Sounds like a far left lunatic

Defector01 on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Defector01 on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

It’s a mix. It’s hard to tell. Confused, at best.

lorien1973 on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

bad timing, CPAC sponsored by Birch Society then this likely Alex Jones nutter?

Alex Jones isn’t exactly Pro-Capitalist either, everything is a conspiracy to him, everything. Govt. corporations, the entire system from top down.

Note his reference to Anarchy in the letter.

jp on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

This guy will be painted as a Tea Party guy. Heck it wouldn’t surprise me if they knew he was planning something and figured they would let him so that they can point conservatives as terrorists instead of Muslims.

jeffn21 on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Err paint not point

jeffn21 on February 18, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel.
- Rosie O’donnell

Seven Percent Solution on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Heh. It does melt LARD though.

AubieJon on February 18, 2010 at 1:38 PM

BobAnthony on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM.

There’s definitely a downside to allowing computer access in the day room.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on February 18, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Geithner and Rangel feel his pain. Make sure Napolitano has someone keeping an eye on those two.

BuckeyeSam on February 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

But he also blames the government for putting too many obstacles in his way.

So there are leftist and rightist principles at play here. He’s confused.

He’s one of the those guys that’s either so far left or so far right, it’s hard to tell the difference.

lorien1973 on February 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Senator Schumer finding a NEW reason to limit private pilots ability to fly the skies in 3…2…1

HarryStar on February 18, 2010 at 1:22 PM

PLEASE do not start speculating on this!

There are always crazy people doing crazy sh*t and the very last thing we need now is the spotlight being shown on General Aviation and trying to tie in aircraft to terrorist activities.

We’ve been fighting TSA for the past 2 years and idiots like this are just that – IDIOTS.

The General Aviation crowd has done more to be pro-active about self regulation and security than ANY governmental agency could possibly do.

Flyboy on February 18, 2010 at 1:26 PM

I couldn’t agree with you more. I think it took 24 hours before they closed down the corridor because of the NY Yankees pitcher who crashed into the building.

Let’s hope AOPA can fend off more stupidity from reports who don’t know what they’re talking about.

HarryStar on February 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM

leilani on February 18, 2010 at 1:22 PM

From what I can see. The size of the hole looks about right for a Piper Cherokee, assuming he hit a part of the building where there were no interior walls butting up against the glass to give it extra strength.

Lack of interior walls would also make it easier for the fireball to spread and knock out all of those windows. Fire accounting for the rest of the damage.

With a fireball of that size and resulting fire, I fear for anyone on the same floor.

The crash in Tampa that I mentioned earlier, the gas never ignited.

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM

There’s definitely a downside to allowing computer access in the day room.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on February 18, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Excellent diagnosis, Doctor.

kingsjester on February 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Speaking of wackadoodles, have you had your lithium today?

WTF are you talking about?

hillbillyjim on February 18, 2010 at 1:40 PM

all crackpot websites are searching their sites to figure out if his email address matches any Users, guaranteed.

jp on February 18, 2010 at 1:40 PM

So what are you saying, that pilots are unstable?

firepilot on February 18, 2010 at 1:33 PM

No, I’m not a part of that world. My only interaction….oh yeah, I was scared, frankly.

This guy was rapist material.

I was stuck in that airplane and praying like mad.

I got out, and I definitely did NOT take the “ride back.”

I figured this was an unusual situation, but I wonder.

Are you familiar with this group?

What do YOU think?

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

PLEASE do not start speculating on this!

There are always crazy people doing crazy sh*t and the very last thing we need now is the spotlight being shown on General Aviation and trying to tie in aircraft to terrorist activities.

We’ve been fighting TSA for the past 2 years and idiots like this are just that – IDIOTS.

The General Aviation crowd has done more to be pro-active about self regulation and security than ANY governmental agency could possibly do.

Flyboy on February 18, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Amen

skydaddy on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Just shut up.

You are the reason why sane people have a hard time doing anything because you “BELIEVE” that everything is going to too everyone.

Speculate much?

upinak on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

This wreaks of Paultard/leftist/libertarianism.

Narutoboy on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

You know, I’m going to draw fire for this. But I had a truly horrible experience with a private flyer. Horrible.
AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:29 PM

There are millions of private flyers, yet you feel safe to characterize all of them based on your experiences with one, plus the nut in Austin.

Yea, you will draw fire, and deservedly so.

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

The guy I had experience with was completely asocial. He manipulated like you can’t imagine. I am not very susceptible to that, and he really, really didn’t like me.

What struck me most?

He really thought owning his own plane demanded some kind of extra consideration.

When I didn’t give him that, he raged.

I ignored him, personally. Just another idiot in life.

And he had no power over me as a result.

But I wonder if this private airplane sector doesn’t have a problem with too many wackadoodles thinking that their money means they are in control?

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

You know Ann, I read your incoherent post quietly, and seldom (if ever) feel the need to comment to you.

However, you are COMPLETELY unhinged on this stupid statement.

I spend 100% of my time in the aviation industry and will argue that stupid statement of yours until the end of days.

Do not feel that need to offer idiotic commentary on a group of people that you have no knowledge about other than your one time chance encounter! Just keep your mouth shut on this one.

Flyboy on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Ok:

ter⋅ror⋅ism /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/[ter-uh-riz-uhm]
–noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Last I knew the IRS was part of the Government. Islamist or no, based on the above definitions this would be terrorism, no? I question a Government that comes out saying this is NOT terrorism. Then what constitutes terrorism. No wonder they think the definition of marriage includes two men or two women. They define words however they feel when they feel like it. For us who actually studied English; learned some vocabulary; and learned some grammar, no matter what they tells us, this will be terrorism plain and simple.

Sultry Beauty on February 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM

AnninCA

WTF? You are making little sense. If that was your only experience with a pilot, then what exactly is your point?

firepilot on February 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Wow, his name got out quick. We would be wondering what his name was for days if it had a middle-eastern ring to it.

Talk Radio to blame in 4…3….2…

cntrlfrk on February 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM

This idiot will be painted as a Tea Party attendant in the coming days. Heaven forbid is he actually attended a tea party. We are screwed.

nyx on February 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Again.. Just shut it.

Stop being Jesse Ventura and shut it.

upinak on February 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM

With the news that the Alabama Professor was a Obama obsessed lefty and now this comment from the Kamikazi : “The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count”, I am thinking that Big Sis, i.e. Napalitano, should put forth a new Homeland Security warning on “Left-Wing Extremists”.

These folks don’t mess around!. They are killing machines. Unhinged and ready to die.

I read the comment sections at the Huff post and Daily Kos and I’m telling you….this guy is just like 90% of those on that site and I fear we will see more death coming from these lunatics.

Opposite Day on February 18, 2010 at 1:43 PM

is = if

nyx on February 18, 2010 at 1:43 PM

The guy sounds like a nut.

atheling on February 18, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Wait, did he kill himself, hurt and possibly kill others over the tax on $12,700.00?

Cindy Munford on February 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM

The guy I had experience with was completely asocial. He manipulated like you can’t imagine. I am not very susceptible to that, and he really, really didn’t like me.

What struck me most?

He really thought owning his own plane demanded some kind of extra consideration.

When I didn’t give him that, he raged.

I ignored him, personally. Just another idiot in life.

And he had no power over me as a result.

But I wonder if this private airplane sector doesn’t have a problem with too many wackadoodles thinking that their money means they are in control?

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

After writing this, you are referring to others as wackadoodles.

Irony doesn’t even register with you, does it?

nico on February 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Joseph Andrew Stack

guessing someone is upset his “soul mate” Amy Bishop got arrested.

Branch Rickey on February 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM

I was audited in that building about 10 years ago. Fairly spartan inside, with tons of cubicles. Would not take a lot of fuel to do that damage and even a light aircraft has enough fuel on board to make a pretty big bang. 40 gallons of 100 octane fuel is volatile stuff. Remember, the fuel is in the wing and that will part company with the fuselage upon impact into a building. Full throttle will still get you 120+ knots, maybe a few more on a cool day at that low an altitude.

av8tr on February 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Sekhmet on February 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Stay safe.

conservative pilgrim on February 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM

With the news that the Alabama Professor was a Obama obsessed lefty

Good to keep in mind to remind people when they go after this guy for being a Tea Partier, as they almost certainly will.

Missy on February 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Funny. I didn’t see the word “tea party” anywhere in that manifesto.

Good Lt on February 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

This guy was left all the way. It’ll be fun watching Brian Williams and Katie Couric attempt to spin this one.

jjrakman on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Can’t believe this little plane did this much damage to a big building … must’ve been prepositioned explosives, right Troofers?

Tony737 on February 18, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Smacking in wide open with tanks full of 100LL would cause quite a fireball.

JusDreamin on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

After writing this, you are referring to others as wackadoodles.

Irony doesn’t even register with you, does it?

nico on February 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM

That was fabulous and you totally beat me to it.

She’s the chick who basically claimed that the women Bill Clinton sexual harassed/raped weren’t really that upset about it because they were totally into him!

p.s. Hey, Townhall, if you want to ban her for insanity, please feel free

Branch Rickey on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

The pilot (according to his manifesto) as a middle income software engineer from Texas who was anti-IRS, anti-TARP, anti-Corporate, anti-Congress, anti-drug insurance companies and angry w/ the health care debate.

He also was pro-small business and didnt like a tax reform bill pushed by a NY Dem.

TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Funny. I didn’t see the word “tea party” anywhere in that manifesto.

Good Lt on February 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Me neither, but Maureen Dowd will claim she did.

Missy on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

But I wonder if this private airplane sector doesn’t have a problem with too many wackadoodles thinking that their money means they are in control?

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Are you actually under the impression that private planes are all that expensive?

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

isn’t going to stop the media from blaming this on conservatives, is it? Ah well.

If the Left can tie Dr. Amy Bishop to conservatives and the Tea Party, then no.

conservative pilgrim on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

TERRORIST! Oh wait he isn’t muslim… but he wanted to destory a government building and cause harm for ideological reasons so TERRORIST! …but he isn’t muslim. NM!

Norvell on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Austin’s a hot-bed of liberalism. I heard he was upset over the election losses in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts, but what really put him over the edge was Evan Bayh retiring.

PatMac on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

They just mentioned the note on Megyhn’s show. They are checking it’s validity right now.

kingsjester on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

So there are leftist and rightist principles at play here. He’s confused.

He’s one of the those guys that’s either so far left or so far right, it’s hard to tell the difference.

lorien1973 on February 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM

He is/was a few fries short of a Happy Meal. He supports socialized health care but not the tax agency that would pay for it. Oh, and he hates tax cuts and thinks capitalism is bad. But then vilifies the federal government getting involved in people’s lives.

You’re right. He’s somewhere far away on the political circle, standing on the line between far left and far right.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

AnninCA, I’m a pilot and AOPA member. I know a lot of private pilots, and I’ve flown with quite a few as well. There’s only a couple that I wouldn’t fly with again.

From what I’ve seen so far, this guy was a lone whacko. If he hadn’t happened to have access to an aircraft. He may not have even BEEN a licensed pilot. I searched the FAA Airmen registry and got this:

FAA REGISTRY

Name Inquiry – List Results

No records were found with JOSEPH ANDREW STACK

I also searched for pilots named Stack in Texas. Nine names, none of them a Joseph or Andrew

skydaddy on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

The guy is a straight up tea partier. I am really interested to see who he donated to

TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

He also was pro-small business and didnt like a tax reform bill pushed by a NY Dem.

TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

You forgot Anti-Bush.

Johnnyreb on February 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM

He’s one of the those guys that’s either so far left or so far right, it’s hard to tell the difference.

He sounds like an Alex Jones Whack Pack / LaRouchite nutburger.

He hates both sides and parties. Hates the government. Hates the private sector and big business. Sees himself as helpless to the big wide world around him.

Good Lt on February 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Can’t believe this little plane did this much damage to a big building … must’ve been prepositioned explosives, right Troofers?

Tony737 on February 18, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Fire can’t melt glass! Inside job! Ask questions! /troof

bitsy on February 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

You are now firmly and securely in “Bless your heart” terroritory.

Cindy Munford on February 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Will you please just close your eyes and have another one of your sexual fantasies about Bill Clinton…?

We will leave you alone, I promis.

Seven Percent Solution on February 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Heck it wouldn’t surprise me if they knew he was planning something and figured they would let him so that they can point conservatives as terrorists instead of Muslims.

jeffn21 on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Dude, that sort of Troofer paranoia was completely out of place in 2001, and it still is.

“Bush let it happen.”

“Obama let it happen.”

Stop already.

notropis on February 18, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Sounds like a far left lunatic

Defector01 on February 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Agreed. What are the odds the MSM fails to mention his anti-Bush/anti-capitalist rant in their reports?

Go RBNY on February 18, 2010 at 1:49 PM

You’re right. He’s somewhere far away on the political circle, standing on the line between far left and far right.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

I actually agree with this. If anything he seems to be in the Alex Jones category.

crr6 on February 18, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Sounds like a far left lunatic – Defector01 on February 18, 2010

Yeah, his note pegs him to be more likely a member in good standing of moveon.org than a TeaPartier. I don’t get where everybody’s saying this is somehow a setback for TPism. He very clearly says “The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.” He vilifies religion AND George Bush. He’d be an anti-TPer who seems to have more in common with Michael Moore & Keith Olbermann than anybody else.

leilani on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM


Again.. Just shut it.

Stop being Jesse Ventura and shut it.

upinak

I love how you “freedom” lovers are so quick to squelch the voices of those who disagree with you. Maybe you should STFU for a change.

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM

BobAnthony on February 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Ron Paul supporter, amirite?

Sometimes stereotypes are stereotypes because they are true.

You guys are as scary, if not more scary, than the Obama worshippers.

Nineball on February 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM

The guy is a straight up tea partier. I am really interested to see who he donated to
TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

According to Open Secrets, no one.

Slublog on February 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM

I love how you “freedom” lovers are so quick to squelch the voices of those who disagree with you. Maybe you should STFU for a change.
Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Please take your own advice. Puhleeze.

kingsjester on February 18, 2010 at 1:52 PM

The guy is a straight up tea partier. I am really interested to see who he donated to

TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

He’s not a “straight up” Tea Partier. Nor is he “straight up” MoveOn.org member. He wasn’t any category, regardless of what he may’ve though.

He’s anti-capitalist and yet anti-government. He attacks the IRS and then expects profits and private companies driven from the health care system. His policy positions are completely contradictory.

Again, a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Man, the guy just seems overwhelmed, powerless and desperate and frustrated past his breaking point.

And he was wrong. Killing others won’t help his cause. It’ll hurt it.

Might not be ultra right or ultra left. He hates the entire system for its corruption.

ROCnPhilly on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Why he didn’t sell the plane and the piano? Dunno, common sense people. Haven’t read but will try and catch up.

ProudPalinFan on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

I love how you “freedom” lovers are so quick to squelch the voices of those who disagree with you. Maybe you should STFU for a change.

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Uh huh. Someone is wigging out about conspiracy issues and you go and defend them. Nice job there Finny… keep it up.

upinak on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

So, is this guy right about section 1706?

ninjapirate on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

The Kossacks have now begun making up sh*t to push their narrow unpopular agenda. I can’t wait to see how Olby is going to tag this Bush hating loon as part of the Tea Party movement. I mean this guy sounds like lib to me.

Lance Murdock on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

The guy is a straight up tea partier. I am really interested to see who he donated to
TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

According to Open Secrets, no one.

Slublog on February 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Which, given his apparent financial condition, and his professed views of politicians, should come as no surprise.

notropis on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

This wreaks of Paultard/leftist/libertarianism.

Narutoboy on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

yep, and in Alex Jones backyard. Anarcho-Libertarianism crackpot is possibly the best term.

jp on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

This guy was as anti-capitalist, anti-profit, anti-tax cut, and anti-American health care as he was anti-IRS.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Libs Gone Wild II

(Dr. Amy Bishop, Obama worshipper, Killer Professor, was the first)

David2.0 on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Here’s his suicide note. Seems that he’d had enough of oppressive taxation, socialism and corporate cronyism.

TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM

TruUSA on February 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Read this:

This guy was as anti-capitalist, anti-profit, anti-tax cut, and anti-American health care as he was anti-IRS.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Add, also anti-Catholic and anti-organized religion, you get ant-everything except pro-explode-oneself-in-emo-fury.

Another words, a nut. Lets talk about Amy Bishop and those Leftard idiots who brought pipe bombs to attack the Republican convention in 2008, huh? And then talk about Oswad and Sirhan Sirhan?

dIb on February 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM

This guy is a fool. I understand having a beef with the IRS but, why would you target the employees? Most of them are good people who unfortunately work for a corrupt agency. I only hope and pray that no one other than the pilot died in this “accident”.

milwife88 on February 18, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for the IRS employees. I just don’t. They’re part of the problem. No employees, no enforcement of financial tyranny.

Tim Burton on February 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

I read his writings a bit differently…

Seems to me he was against the Corporate / Fed Gov partnerships, where one company or group gets preferential treatment over others.

He was against Corporations, or Churches, getting special treatment by the Government… ie having MORE Rights than an individual.

Every one of his points had to do with some Legal Entity getting special treatment… and the individual getting hosed…

Romeo13 on February 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Grow up. She’s right, and you know it.

Be somebody, for once.

hillbillyjim on February 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM

He hates the entire system for its corruption.

Who can blame him?

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Libs Gone Wild II

(Dr. Amy Bishop, Obama worshipper, Killer Professor, was the first)

David2.0 on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

He doesn’t seem liberal, either. He seemed to want nothing to do with the government or IRS.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

This guy was rapist material.

AnninCA on February 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Right, but he he had rape-raped you you would have then said this because this is how you feel about rapists who evade prosecution, This is some of what you told us about that child rapist Polanski:

I think he needs to own up to the fugitive issue, not the rape issue.
AnninCA on September 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM

But, I sort of wonder if he and the victim didn’t have a real moment somewhere. She doesn’t want prosecution.
I think that’s because, behind the public eye, he truly made amends to her.
Just my 2 cents.
The rest is about public junk.
AnninCA on September 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I doubt he’s repeated his actions. I think this was a particularly sordid story, located in time and place.
But, the issue to me, is his fugitive status. He can meet his own conscience on what happened. He may have made true amends to her. We don’t know.
But he is a fugitive. Hollywood is wrong on this issue.
AnninCA on September 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM

You want to make this about you – here ya go.

batterup on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

I love how you “freedom” lovers are so quick to squelch the voices of those who disagree with you. Maybe you should STFU for a change.

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM

It has NOTHING to do with “disagreement” douchebag….it’s because she’s talking out of her a** on something she knows absolutely NOTHING about! What about that doesn’t register with you??!!

Flyboy on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

So, is this guy right about section 1706?

ninjapirate on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

I hate to admit that that was my first question as well.

My second was, how in the heck is a home piano a professional investment for a software engineer?

notropis on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Be somebody, for once.

hillbillyjim

Ok Ben Franklin.

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

AnninCA, I’m a pilot and AOPA member. I know a lot of private pilots, and I’ve flown with quite a few as well. There’s only a couple that I wouldn’t fly with again.

From what I’ve seen so far, this guy was a lone whacko. If he hadn’t happened to have access to an aircraft. He may not have even BEEN a licensed pilot. I searched the FAA Airmen registry and got this:

FAA REGISTRY

Name Inquiry – List Results

No records were found with JOSEPH ANDREW STACK

I also searched for pilots named Stack in Texas. Nine names, none of them a Joseph or Andrew

skydaddy on February 18, 2010 at 1:47 PM

–Skydaddy, how could someone without substantial flying experience steal a plane from a location about 15 or 20 miles away from Austin and fly it into a building in Austin without crashing first?

Jimbo3 on February 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM

SWITCH TO DECAF.

HALLUCINOGENS COME IN DECAF VARIETY ?

runner on February 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Did you actually read what she wrote?

Yes people should have freedom of speech, but does that include babbling on about irrelevant subjects?

Chip on February 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/alleged-letter-written-by-austin-plane-crash-pilot.html

This is the now confirmed letter written by Austin plane crash pilot Joseph Andrew Stack, who is being named by officials as the perpetrator of a deliberate attack on a building in Austin which houses IRS offices. Stack was having problems with the IRS and in his letter writes about “totalitarian regimes” and taking on Big Brother.

This letter will undoubtedly by exploited by the establishment media and authorities to demonize Alex Jones, Ron Paul and his supporters, as well as Tea Party activists and 9/11 truthers.

note how desperate they are to claim they are the Tea Party crowd….

check out the comments…

jp on February 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM

After writing this, you are referring to others as wackadoodles.

Irony doesn’t even register with you, does it?

nico on February 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM

She once declared that the health care crisis could be solved by forcing the insurance executives to work for reasonable wages.

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Romeo13 on February 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM

But he ends with this:

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

His beef seemed to be more than just corporations dealing with the feds. He vilified profits in health care, calling our system a “joke”.

This guy was off his nut.

amerpundit on February 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM

batterup

Wow. That’s a pretty extensive file you’ve been keeping on ol’ Ann. Ka-reepy!!

Grow Fins on February 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM

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