Report: Clinton and Carville ready to go after tea party leaders?
posted at 5:32 pm on February 17, 2010 by Allahpundit
I’m skeptical. What would it achieve?
Big Government has learned of at least one other conference call/meeting around this time. A meeting of former Clintonistas and senior Democrat political operatives to coordinate a push-back to the burgeoning tea party movement. Consider it a Democrat party relief effort…
Big Government has learned that Clintonistas are plotting a “push/pull” strategy. They plan to identify 7-8 national figures active in the tea party movement and engage in deep opposition research on them. If possible, they will identify one or two they can perhaps ‘turn’, either with money or threats, to create a mole in the movement. The others will be subjected to a full-on smear campaign. (Has MSNBC already been notified?)
Big Government has also learned that James Carville will head up the effort.
Obviously, there is no love lost between Obama and the Clinton machine. It may at first seem odd that Clinton would rush to Obama’s defense, but the tea party movement poses a threat far beyond the immediate goals of the Obama Administration.
For starters, while I suppose anyone can be “turned” if the dirt on them is dirty enough, you’re dealing with some pretty fervent ideologues when it comes to the tea-party leadership. Guys who believe firmly enough in what they’re doing to dress up like Thomas Paine aren’t ripe prospects to become traitors to their own side. Beyond that, precisely what sort of information are the Clintonistas hoping to glean here? The names of all the Birthers in the ranks? Advance warning of the next rally? The whole point of the tea-party movement is to remain decentralized and leaderless. Under those circumstances, what real power does a “leader” have? Beyond all that, given the attention right-wing media has devoted to the tea parties, why would Clinton et al. risk a PR clusterfark by targeting citizen leaders of a populist movement in this political climate? If it could be proved that Democratic bigwigs were trying to intimidate John Q. Public and his “Don’t Tread on Me” flag, the political cost would be vastly greater than the benefit.
But those are all details. Here’s the big question: Per this morning’s CNN poll, tea partiers are potentially the best friends Democrats have. All the left needs to do to blunt the effect of a Republican wave in November is convince TPers to run as third-party candidates, thereby drawing off 15 percent or so of the vote and ensuring Democratic reelection. In which case, er, why target them? Destroying tea-party leaders won’t blunt grassroots conservatives’ demand for smaller government; if you really want to protect the progressive agenda, the smart move would be to encourage more tea-party leaders and drive some sort of permanent wedge between them and the GOP. What am I missing here?
Update: For once, Michael Steele has the right idea.









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Seriously what are these people – 2?
gophergirl on February 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Let the games begin! Pass the popcorn.
Chewy the Lab on February 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM
It started already Allah
Huffpo. Tea Party movement attempt by GOP to make America more racist.”
William Amos on February 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM
It will be interesting to see who they consider to be the tea party leaders.
ctmom on February 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM
Where’s the Whitey Tape?
chunderroad on February 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM
You would have thougt that they would tire of interns at this age.
percysunshine on February 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM
BRING.IT.ON
Opposite Day on February 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Maybe bills stent will throw a clot
Sonosam on February 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM
What they can achieve is sowing distrust among those on the right. Whenever one disagrees with a minor point, the nagging doubt will be “did Clinton get to him/her?”
Troika37 on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
I won’t be fooled again.
tmitsss on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
How do these people win any elections at all?
Hog Wild on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Clinton see this as another bimbo eruption, not a serious threat, but a problem to be managed. The so called “grass roots” movements on the left can be bought off or their leadership manipulated because they’re often not really grass roots. Get control of the Union Leadership or whatever, and you’ve managed the problem.
trubble on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
What you are missing is that dirty tricks is the primary Dem stock in trade. It’s what they know. It’s what they do. It’s all they do. They don’t have pity or remorse.
GnuBreed on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Go ahead. Make my day.
ncborn on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
I’m betting a big part of that strategery, if it’s true, will be to find more Medinas in the ranks. Birthers, Truthers, folks with colorful (or perhaps ‘color-less,’ if you know what I mean and I think Olby does) pasts, and the like, the idea being that if there develops a pattern, that might turn us regular folks off.
They turn some off who are quite passionate about participating as they never have been before, and even if they don’t swing Dem, they may stay home. Net result–one Dem vote.
JamesLee on February 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Ugh! One of my neighbors active in tea party stuff sent me an e-mail looking into alternatives to our GOP candidate for senate. This is the surest way to defeat and guaranteeing statist policies until our country suffers under our tremendous financial burden.
WashJeff on February 17, 2010 at 5:39 PM
It’s called desperation AP. That’s what you are missing.
Go for it serpent head, I dare ya. If you think American’s are pissed off now, just wait cause you ain’t seen nothing yet.
Knucklehead on February 17, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Yet the Tea Parety rolls on
William Amos on February 17, 2010 at 5:39 PM
They are using money from the Clinton Fund.
Keep donating “for Haiti” suckers.
tetriskid on February 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM
So they’re going to give them the Palin treatment? Gee – never saw that coming.
thevastlane on February 17, 2010 at 5:41 PM
First impression: The mistake Democrats make is that everyone is just as corrupt as they are.
Second impression: Clinton is trying his own Cloward-Piven strategy within the Democratic party.
Kafir on February 17, 2010 at 5:41 PM
The Beltway Elite, on both sides, are scared.
kingsjester on February 17, 2010 at 5:41 PM
The Clinton ego is at play. He still thinks he’s relevant.
edgehead on February 17, 2010 at 5:41 PM
Only the tip of the iceberg, the real dirty work will go on where mi mafia is su mafia.
Now that the progressives are in charge we’ve only previously seen a hint of the coming campaign hate & corruption.
Speakup on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Does “deep opposition research” include using Sec of State’s office workers and their computers?
Democracy Alliance. Soros. Catch them doing it. Jail them.
journeyintothewhirlwind on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
I’m not sure I can name a ‘tea party leader’ – how is smearing a handful of individual citizens that most people don’t even know going to help them?
And yes, I agree wholeheartedly – the best thing they could do is to fuel the nonsensical tea/third party suicide pact in order to guarantee more Dem re-elections.
Midas on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
lol. Bill will be effective against the tea partiers up until the first whore that crosses his path. maybe we should pony up some cash and send him down to Argentina again.
elduende on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Considering that there is no “tea party leadership” this would tend to underscore how out of touch they are with things.
The TPM’s strength is in the fact that it does not have central leadership. There is nobody for them to “attack” except the people themselves and that is probably not going to give them the results they desire if they try that.
They would have to select individual movements in individual cities and any damage would be limited to those specific groups. What about cities or regions that might have several different “tea party” groups?
Any attempt to organize the TPM into a national or regional movement only weakens it. Anyone who would aspire to lead it would only stand the chance of killing it. It is best left as it is … mercurial, decentralized, a thousand different groups with a thousand different leaders and issues. It is local, it is not national. It would be like quicksand for Clinton to wade into such a battle.
crosspatch on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
But the Democrats have only one play book…
… “Attack and Smear”.
They don’t know anything else. It’s like giving a speech without a teleprompter. They just CAN’T do it!
You just gotta’ love the ‘Law of Unintended Consequences’.
Seven Percent Solution on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Honest question:
Do you think Sec. State will have to rein in her hubby for some reason? Conflict of interest??? Ethics rules??? (Yeah, I know, ethics smethics!)
Chewy the Lab on February 17, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Interesting. My reading is that the states where the teaparties may not prove fruitful are the states where the GOP ranks are pretty much devastated already.
So they are weak candidates.
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Carville and the Clintonistas are too smart – and devious – not to recognize that this can backfire and drive the partyers into the arms of the Republicans.
It’s only the loony left – the Olbermann types – that are so paranoid and crazed who don’t see this.
Although on the other hand such a move could hurt Obama a great deal. The entire Obama-Pelosi-Reid trifecta could come crashing down. Hmmmmmm?
SteveMG on February 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM
“What am I missing here?” I’ll bite. We’ve been there and done that a mere 18 years ago. Elephants remember.
And the fact the most tea partiers believe they are simply reminding republicans we hold them acountable for their campaign rhetoric. Dems allow their leaders to obfuscate during a campaign for the strategic benefit of obtaining the majority.
DanMan on February 17, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Should have added- Democracy Alliance- Secretary of State project.
journeyintothewhirlwind on February 17, 2010 at 5:44 PM
No. She has no deep investment in this administration, provided she follows his guidelines and does her job.
And she is.
The rest isn’t her business or her problem.
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Serpent head would do this, but I am not sure what good it would do. TP’s cut too wide a swath through the middle of the electorate.
drjohn on February 17, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Come get me but pack a lunch, I’ll be hungry when I’m through.
Les in NC on February 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM
yup
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Didn’t Carville do a poll on tea party attendees and come to the conclusion that they are not racists and as a matter fact made them look pretty much like the concerned citizens that they are? How does he turn around and be part of attempt to vilify? That’s not logical.
Cindy Munford on February 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Hm, I think they are missing something.
But let them try to do what they do best. The problem is that they likey won’t find much, although that won’t stop them, but it will fire up TPers.
I’m not sure but I don’t think they want the TPers fired up.
ORconservative on February 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
You feel lucky punk???
ohiobabe on February 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
I like your thinking. I personally think Clinton will NEVER forgive Obama for turning the black community against him.
That was unforgiveable. Nevermind beating his wife.
The other was truly unforgiveable.
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
What do they hope to achieve? Change my mind? It ain’t gonna happen. They’ve shown us what their intentions are.
You can’t put toothpaste back in the tube.
elifino on February 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
I think if they want to attack normal everyday American voting citizens they should go ahead. That will surely end it for the Democrats.
This is what happens when you become so elite that you no longer relate to the average citizen. They have no concept of how we really think of no belief that we are capable of thinking.
Sorry Clinton but if you come after the American public you will get your clock cleaned.
SgtRed on February 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
the tea party movement is not Newt Gingrich and this ain’t 1995.
rob verdi on February 17, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Carville is a died in the wool liberal democrat. If it doesn’t have a D in front of it he can’t hear it.
SgtRed on February 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM
It is not Dodge City either.
percysunshine on February 17, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Bill should be spending his remaining time on this earth getting right with the Lord not on dirty political tricks. Carvile is a lost cause, evil, snake eye tool.
Kissmygrits on February 17, 2010 at 5:51 PM
As long as it’s the Navy jack “Don’t Tread on Me” we’re cool. That yellow one looks stupid.
But yeah, agree with you, AP.
Rightwingguy on February 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100217/us_nm/us_clinton
It’s the stress… yep… he’s ready to war against fat.
MeatHeadinCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Everyone remotely qualifying as a “tea party leader” should memorize this response and rehearse their delivery in front of the news cameras:
“Well those are some pretty nasty charges. Tell you what: Call me when I’ve stolen 900 FBI files, fired the White House travel staff out of petty spite, cheated on my spouse with 9 or 10 floozies, and lied under oath to congress.”
greggriffith on February 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM
If you’re skeptical the Clintons would do this you don’t know the Clintons. I, for one, did not join in the recent misty-eyed reminiscing over how much “better” Bill Clinton was supposedly over Obama.
KittyLowrey on February 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM
After Bush, the great middle of America does not want to vote GOP anymore. But after Obama, the great middle of America doesn’t want to vote Democrat, either. So the tea party can be incredibly popular in 2012 if they play their cards right. What few GOP RINO neoconservative votes they don’t get, they will more than make up for with Reagan democrats, moderates, libertarians, disillusioned obama voters, and just plain old fashioned conservatives. They don’t have to rely only on the right for votes. Their success will be found in the plurality of voters who are angry and disillusioned with both parties.
There is more than enough for a plurality in any three-way race. In 1992, the mood was nowhere near as angry as it is now, and even then Ross Perot was polling 40% in June, a plurality, before he dropped out of the race and sabotaged United We Stand. If he has not done that, he would have been the 42nd president. So this idea that third parties only split conservatives votes is just not true. They sacrifice a few conservatives, only to gain many more in exchange.
keep the change on February 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Do they hope to bring down Obama or not? Tea Party is their best bet in that effort.
Evan Bayh resigning. Now this. Something’s afoot for sure.
promachus on February 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM
The truth is that states and cities, particularly those in the blue states, are vastly over-extended. They are cooking up new “fees” and “surcharges” as fast as they can.
And that’s due to a loss in income tax, because people are out of work.
Moving to consumer taxes is nothing short of hitting up poor people when the chips are down.
That’s the truth. And that won’t fly.
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM
I don’t think anyone here doubts that they would try this. The question is why?
Cui bono?
SteveMG on February 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
- Sun Tzu
MB4 on February 17, 2010 at 5:55 PM
More Medinas in the ranks? You mean ignore people’s words and label them truthers, birthers, tenthers. What they don’t understand is that we see through them now. We not only don’t trust them, and are smarter than to let Beck and others pull their stunts and put their guys in, we don’t give a flip what they think or say. They’re sniveling low-life cowards who deal in lies and manipulations, and those who buy their lies can go down with them.
What part of “I don’t think our government did it, but I believe people have the right to question.” Of course, Beck said the same thing a few years ago, and Palin calls for more investigation, but hey, they just label the ones that threaten them. Bring it on!
texanpride on February 17, 2010 at 5:55 PM
The left desperately needs a distraction .If Bill was in office he would bomb Libya .
Incumbents on both side are worried about being thrown out.
The last thing we need is another ” Ross Perot ” to divide the conservative vote .Fiscal conservatism needs to reign , and the best way to do that is throw ALL OF THEM OUT .
They are looking for dirt like previous KKK membership, active in a fringe militia group etc.
As long as idiots like Biden, Andrea Mitchell ,and Keith O. keep the propaganda up we should be ok .James the new orleans serpent is another matter .
Could it be so devious that Carrville tries to recruit a mole and if that doesnt work then SLICK WILLY brings a SUICIDE SQUAD in ?
ELMO Q on February 17, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Bill isn’t cooking up anything, I would guess. This is a paranoia story.
And Carville isn’t interested either. He’s got his gig going with speaking for the liberals.
He’s about like Dick Morris at this point.
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Who do they think they are dealing with here? Democrats?
conservnut on February 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM
If in fact the Tea Partiers stay local and don’t get too organized, it seems like it would pretty hard to take them on…
MeatHeadinCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Excuse me:
Name your ‘top 5 Tea Party leaders’.
Then list the actual number of active people in their group (not the number of people in their email lists).
Good luck finding a total of 1% active participants reporting to the ‘Top five’.
What part of grassroots don’t they understand? I guess they’ve never actually seen one before.
michaelo on February 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Who are they going to go after? The tea parties I’ve been to have been comprised of grandparents, moms & dads, kid, vets, etc. They’ve looked like something out of a Norman Rockwell rendition of the American political process. Not exactly an easy group to smear or attack.
INC on February 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM
I agree. And I don’t think this contradicts Sarah’s suggestion to pick a party.
I think that people have to acknowledge that national elections aren’t really where the issues will be in the next few years.
It’s in municipal “fees” and state regulations.
It’s local.
Then, pay a nod to national.
AnninCA on February 17, 2010 at 5:58 PM
They had better be careful here. You are talking about further alienating independents. Billy Jeff might just come away with a whole lot of egg on his face.
conservnut on February 17, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible.
Thomas J. Jackson
Colbyjack on February 17, 2010 at 5:59 PM
It’s only illogical if you remove politics from it. The true nature of TP’ers doesn’t matter.
Midas on February 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM
That is what is driving them nuts. It’s like trying to pick up jello. There is nobody to go after that the movement recognizes as a leader. Any shot at the Tea Partiers is a shot at all of them.
conservnut on February 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Clintonistas (and indeed the left) don’t look at such information as factual or true but how it can be used. His mission with that poll is to understand what the movement is so he knows how to spin it to the pubic to be perceived as the opposite. (Had he found foes of Dems to be indeed bigoted haters no spin would be necessary.)
Watch, you’ll see. You know he has this information, now see how he proceeds to characterize the movement knowing it full well.
KittyLowrey on February 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Too late. There’s nothing they can do.
ahem on February 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Why Allah? Because the Democrats not only believe, but practice PROJECTION.
GarandFan on February 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Hence that general is skilful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skilful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack.
- Sun Tzu
MB4 on February 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM
I could see Clinton doing this. There is already an anti-Tea Party group, so all Clinton and Carville is provide marching orders, and out come the drones.
madmonkphotog on February 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM
What will they do? Call them racists? Seriously, I think it’s clear that Americans are getting sick and tired of these words that once meant something being thrown around just so that Nancy Pelosi can pass some bill or something.
MeatHeadinCA on February 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Maybe we are missing something here.
A backlash against Obowma, Pelosi, and Reid making way for Hillary to challenge in 2012, after a Republican take over of Congress in 2010…?
No one will want a ‘one party rule’ after the disastrous years of Democrat control, so a Republican Congress will have to be tempered by Cankles herself.
What could go wrong?
Seven Percent Solution on February 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Dumb idea. If they attack say 10 people they claim to be leaders if they are successful they are impacting what, 200-300 people in a movement of a hundreds of thousands?
clement on February 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Racist is a really simple smear that requires no proof.
thevastlane on February 17, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Do they hope to bring down Obama or not? Tea Party is their
Exactly. Hubby and I discussed the Bayh resignation and both wondered what Hillary knew and when she knew it. The way Bayh announced his intentions is a neon sign that something is indeed afoot.
KittyLowrey on February 17, 2010 at 6:06 PM
They should look into this Sarah Palin character. No one has really checked her out yet. /s
joejm65 on February 17, 2010 at 6:08 PM
In the practical art of battling the Tea Party Movement, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and James Carville must be prepared to fight at any time in the future. In the impractical art of battling the Tea Party Movement, they should have been prepared quite some time ago, and it’s probably already too late. They’re scroomed.
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew
MB4 on February 17, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Yup. The TPM is basically about people being upset with their political leaders. That is pretty much all there is to it. And if the people are attacked for exercising their constitutional duty to select their leaders, then Clinton can only lose. If the people are called names and patronized for playing the role the constitution clearly meant for them to play, then it can only reflect badly on those who would do so.
Each individual is a “Tea Party Leader”.
It is kind of along the same lines as Sarah Palin being much more powerful as a non-candidate than as a candidate. They can’t waste effort and resources in attacking her because they are going to need to use those resources against their election opponents.
The Tao of Tea.
crosspatch on February 17, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Too much evidence already on YouTube and the web that contradicts that.
One thing we can thank BHO for is that the race card has been so overused that it’s no more than a fly buzzing around now.
INC on February 17, 2010 at 6:09 PM
you know there is only one reason that he is doing this, is because hill is running again in 2012
ConservativePartyNow on February 17, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Ok…. I’ll admit it. I’m a Tea Partier. I’ve held Conservative/ Libertarian beliefs as long as I can remember. And I’ll be happy to identify my leaders and turn over the documents I believe in to anyone who wants to know. My leaders are Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, James Madison, Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, Patrick Henry, George Washington and a slew of others. You can pick up a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America to learn all about my beliefs.
I have NO leaders in my life who are currently alive. I vote for “Representatives”… not “Leaders”. I’ll leave the desire for “Leaders” up to the Liberals.
Tea Partiers have unquestionable, unimpeachable, long deceased Leaders. Not one living politician has the intelligence or testicular fortitude of the founding fathers. We don’t need no stinkin’ living leaders.
Storybec on February 17, 2010 at 6:13 PM
The dems are determined to push health care thru. That is all it will take, and their dreams of grandeur will become something out of a nightmare on Elm street movie.
capejasmine on February 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM
THE POWER OF LEADERLESS ORGANIZATIONS IS THAT THEY BECOME MORE DECENTRALIZED, ACTIVE AND POWERFUL WHEN ATTACKED.
Clinton and team are going to learn this fact the hard way!
Mutnodjmet on February 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM
I’m beginning to believe this as well, and I’m getting a feeling Bayh might be in this mix somewhere too.
capejasmine on February 17, 2010 at 6:16 PM
The Tea Party is like a floating ball of ants. There is no head to strike. And about the dumbest thing you can do is wade in and start poking it with a stick. Carville has always been evil, but now he’s nuts.
ROCnPhilly on February 17, 2010 at 6:17 PM
It doesn’t stop them from saying it over and over again, but I hope you’re right that people are wise to their games.
thevastlane on February 17, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Well, targeting middle-aged married women with small children has already worked so well for them, why not keep up the pattern?
Seriously, a significant majority of what can reasonably be called the Tea Party leadership is made up of middle-class moms who have no prior political experience and in many cases, no ambition for higher office. The ones I’ve spoken to are absurdly well-educated with regards to the Constitution and related history, and would eat your average MSNBC reporter for lunch (and do, when they get the chance). Exactly what kind of dirt do they expect to dig up on such patriots?
The entertainment potential of this kind of move cannot be overstated, especially since the Clintons and their associates are, however liberal, much more grounded in reality than the arrogant and clueless Obama crew. This means that when the truth of the Tea Parties’ integrity becomes clear to them (as it did to even James Carville), this move might actually create a further rift in the DEMOCRAT party, rather than the Republicans.
Moderate Dems versus Progs. Indies teaming up with Tea Partiers. OH, the possibilities are endless….
Animator Girl on February 17, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Chaos.
DUH.
Oh, you fake skeptic,
Allahputzit.
Cynicism befits you…too well.
THINK: “Methinks the lady doth protest too much.”
They do exactly the opposite of what they say, because they mean exactly the opposite of what they say.
DLTDHYOTWO. Enjoy the NYT!
Lockstein13 on February 17, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Aliskyn is as Alinsky does.
Why wouldn’t they go back to the tried and true? They’ve simply become to dependent on the Rules for Radicals playbook, after 4 or 5 decades of success with its all they know.
Their first attempt at falling back on tired strategies was when they opted for their default setting of just labeling everyone as a racist To Joe Public that dog just don’t hunt no more, you can only say “boo” so many times, we’re not afraid of the miscarachterization anymore.
But the airwaves are are a progressive cudgel, the MSM will assist in ever way possible, will Americans continue to be mesmerized by their agitprop anymore, thats the question.
Archimedes on February 17, 2010 at 6:18 PM
So true…
They never learned the lesson why the Japanese knew they could never invade the United States in WWII.
… There would be a gun behind every blade of grass.
Seven Percent Solution on February 17, 2010 at 6:18 PM
What Tea Party Leaders?
Dr Evil on February 17, 2010 at 6:19 PM
I’d love to see the TP movement backfire on Republicans as well as Democrats. Like I said in the other thread, the GOP wants a large, powerful central government filled with neoconservatives and fundamentalists. That’s not a situation for liberty or even traditional conservatism.
The Dean on February 17, 2010 at 6:20 PM
I like to think that, when its “leaders” are attacked, the Tea Party will be something like the mythical Hydra: you cut off one head, and three more take its place.
Forgive the drama. I guess the news out of Greece just has me in the mood.
Animator Girl on February 17, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Why would they do it you ask?
1. Because they like to (that must have been one fired up conference call)
2. Because they are good at it.
3. Clinton and Carville as henchmen let Obama keep his hands clean. (And to some extent Hillary’s hands stay clean too “Oh that Bill is such a rascal. What’s he done now? I never could control him “)
kooly on February 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM
I think you nailed it AP. Too bad for Bubba & ‘The Skull’, that there is no wedge to be driven, that I can see anyway. In my experience the majority of the TPers know the GOP is our best shot at making a difference. Hypothetically in the long run a third party might emerge, but the current crisis with the economy and runaway government power grabs necessitates sticking with the GOP and trying to influence who the candidates will be.
JimP on February 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM
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