Palin to tea partiers: You’re going to have to choose between the parties

posted at 1:14 pm on February 17, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s in her interest to say this, of course, if she wants any shot at the GOP nomination, and it’s bound to irritate tea-party indies who bristle at her attempts to “hijack” the movement for Republicans.

But if, like me, you’re first and foremost interested in knocking the Democrats out of power, this is pure gold.

Asked what her advice would be to conservatives as the November elections approach, Palin first lavished praise on the Tea Party movement, calling it “a grand movement” and adding, “I love it because it’s all about the people.”

But she quickly pivoted to the broader question of whether the Tea Party movement might successfully field its own candidates in national elections, and on that point she sounded far from convinced.

“Now the smart thing will be for independents who are such a part of this Tea Party movement to, I guess, kind of start picking a party,” Palin said. “Which party reflects how that smaller, smarter government steps to be taken? Which party will best fit you? And then because the Tea Party movement is not a party, and we have a two-party system, they’re going to have to pick a party and run one or the other: ‘R’ or ‘D’.”

Translation: Forget the third-party nonsense. She’s been surprisingly consistent on this point, even with people like Glenn Beck leaning on her; all credit to her for trying to keep the train on the track for the midterms before it derails in Perotville. With exquisite timing, CNN’s out with a new poll today showing just how catastrophic a third-party tea-party movement would be to the GOP’s chances. Head to head with Democrats on the generic ballot, Republicans currently lead 47/45 among registered voters. Feast your eyes on what happens if tea partiers, er, go rogue:


That’s a lot of tea. In fact, according to CNN, fully 11 percent of Americans claim they’ve actively supported the tea party movement in some way. (Note to Olbermann: Supporters are also better educated than the population on average.) Can that be right? 33 million or so tea partiers?

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Every person that I have seen post has quite clearly stated that they will fight for a good candidate in the primaries, but if a socialist light is selected, then they leave.

Why do you feel the need to lie about what those you disagree with have said?

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2010 at 5:10 PM

I’m not lying. You obviously did not read my or the other person’s post about getting involved with the GOP and FORMING IT FROM THE GRASS ROOTS UP

atheling on February 18, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Re: MarkTehGreat

Yup, more or less. I am watching the primaries and looking to see who I can support. When the dust settles, if the party threw out the most conservative person that could win in that district, and I do not think that the chosen person is conservative enough, I will remain outside the party and will either vote for a conservative third party person, or stay home and look forward to the next election.

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Sheesh, damned puter.

I meant to finish:

Why not get off your a** and join the GOP on a grass roots level to shape it the way you think it should be, rather than go third party?

You’re either not a very good reader, or YOU are the liar.

atheling on February 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM

I will remain outside the party and will either vote for a conservative third party person, or stay home and look forward to the next election.

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 5:22 PM

In other words, you’re going to help Obama get re-elected.

Smart. *eyeroll*

atheling on February 18, 2010 at 5:24 PM

I am interested in this train analogy. I think there is only one train, and everyone is going to be on no matter what. There is only one track laid for the train to follow. You have the beginning of the track and the Address is 1787, Constitution of the United States of America.
At the other end, which seems much closer is the United Socialist States of Amerika. Right now, we have two groups of people who like to man the three engines that move this train. Group one is the socialists union and they like to run things fast. Group two is the half pregnant union and they like to take things slow. So when the socialists have access to a train engine, they give her the full steam ahead (full power) and target the United Socialist States of Amerika as destination. When the half pregnant group gets its hands on an engine, they set the throttle to slow but sure and set the heading towards the United Socialist States of Amerika. What we need is a new group of engineers who have a target called 1787, Constitution of the United States of America. Now, we have a new educational system, and it is called the Tea Party Movement, and we are trying to get some spies infiltrated into the half pregnant bunch and get them to put the train in reverse and get us back on the road to 1787, Constitution of the United States of America. Yet, that does not mean that the Tea Party Movement should stop training its own engineers and stop planning for the need of creating the Tea Party Union which will have engineers that are dedicated to reaching 1787 Constitution of the United States of America.

Now this is where it gets tricky. The Half Pregnant Union in 1994 actually started the train heading for 1787, Constitution of the United States of America, pulling the Socialist Head Engineer kicking and screaming while its wheels were spinning trying to pull the train to United Socialist States of Amerika. So we know that the Half Pregnant Union has members that are sympathetic to our ends, and we should not cast them off completely. So we are going to try and help those sympathizers take control of the Union first, as that is the easiest way to do things. Unfortunately, the elite engineers with degrees from the most progressive engineer schools are very tricky and they are not above lying about what destination they would pick if they were allowed to man an engine. Take note of what happened when we gave access to all 3 engines to the Half Pregnant Union in 2001 through 2006, they took a train headed for 1787 Constitution of the United States of America and reversed course with a big push towards United Socialist States of Amerika. So, unless the Half Pregnant Union is willing to demote a whole bunch of their lead engineers, why should the Tea Party Movement continue to support them when their destination is not ours, but our enemies?

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 5:59 PM

In other words, you’re going to help Obama get re-elected.

Smart. *eyeroll*

Depends on who the person is that is on the ticket. If it is anyone remotely close to McCain, then I will remain home or vote for a third party candidate that is a real conservative. In the primary, I will work with the Republican party to try and pick a good candidate, but not every person lives in Iowa or New Hampshire or any of the other very early primary states. There is a real problem with the way the primary system works in this country, but I would not know how to fix it, so I will work with what is given. Failing the primary functioning for conservatives or a lack of any conservatives actually running, then I will abandon the Republican party for the half socialist movement that it is and help form a third party that may be ready for action by 2020.

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Just so you people know how intelligently challenged you are by saying that not supporting the most conservative person on the ballot no matter how progressively liberal they may be is helping Obama win.

There is only one reason and one reason only why we currently have a Obama presidency, and that is because of the liberal progressive light activities of the last presidency, and the Republican branded house and senate majorities from 2001 to 2006, led by legislation pushed by people like John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Medicare Drug Entitlement, No Child Left Behind, Campaign Finance Reform, Comprehensive Immigration Reform, continued spending on such things as NEA, continued support for offshore drilling bans, continued support for nuclear power generation bans, Continued support and even expansion of ethanol subsidies, continued spending on agriculture and many other items that are nothing more than liberal progressive light. Without all that gunk demoralizing the conservative vote, there likely would not have been a 2006 takeover of congress, and a 2008 Obama election along with super majorities for the socialists in both the House and Senate. It may be Monday morning quarterbacking, but it is the truth, and it is not like there were not true conservatives making the arguments all the whole time that things were going to turn out the way they did.

Support for liberal progressive light candidates cause way more harm than just simply letting the communists show their own colors when they have no ability to accomplish any of their tasks. The only reason McCain has not reached across the isle last year and this year is because there is an election in November and his name is on the list of those to be recalled. Imagine if he was not up for re-election for 4 more years, you think we would not already have comprehensive health care reform, cap and trade and any number of other socialist endeavors already passed, but only slightly less socialist?

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 6:19 PM

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 6:05 PM

How do you think candidates are selected? Where do you think the GOP platform comes from?

On a local level. First county, then state, then national. It comes from the bottom up. Join your county GOP party, join the platform committee, and get to know potential candidates. Become a delegate so you can vote for the candidate you like best. If you join the platform committee, you have a hand in what the platform contains. that is sent on a state level, then eventually to a national level.

atheling on February 18, 2010 at 6:28 PM

astonerii on February 18, 2010 at 6:19 PM

How do you think Bill Clinton was first elected? ROSS PEROT.

And your foolish stance is what will get Obama re-elected. If you want a real conservative candidate, influence your local GOP party by becoming a delegate so you have a voice as to who is endorsed and chosen.

atheling on February 18, 2010 at 6:30 PM

1.Organizer for Tea Party rallys-Done 2.March on DC-Done 3.Join your county GOP party-Done4.Join the platform committee-Done5.Get to know potential candidates-Done6.Become a delegate-Done7.Iowa resident-Done8.Help with time and $$$ for the Rightcandidates-Doing9.Hold Elected candidates feet to the fire(words are not enough)-will doAnything else? I do work 50+ hours a week, limits me some

IowaWoman on February 18, 2010 at 8:26 PM

How do you think Bill Clinton was first elected? ROSS PEROT.

I’ll give you partial credit. George H.W. Bush was no Reagan allowed himself to get trapped into raising taxes and ran a wimpy campaign.

It’s to simplistic to say Ross Perot got Bill Clinton elected.

jpmn on February 18, 2010 at 11:06 PM