Videos: Bayh says Democrats have yet to create a single private-sector job

posted at 12:55 pm on February 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Did the Porkulus bill create any private-sector jobs? Most of us have said no, and according to the CBS/NYT poll, 94% of Americans agree.  You can count retiring Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) among them.  When asked what he plans to do with his time after his term expires, Bayh says that he will worry about that when the time comes.  If he chooses to start a business in the private sector, though, he’s sure he will outperform Congress in job creation:

“[I]f I could create one job in the private sector by helping to grow a business, that would be one more than Congress has created in the last six months.”

That serves as a rather stinging accusation, coming from a man who voted for Porkulus a year ago.  Bear in mind, though, that Bayh is careful to say “in the last six months” as a qualifier. Bayh could just mean that Congress ignored the crisis in unemployment for the last six months in order to ride their health-care hobby horse, and that certainly would be true — and closer to the frustration Bayh vented in his retirement announcement yesterday.

He may be offering that dodge as a way to rationalize his support for a failed stimulus policy, but it doesn’t wash. The Obama administration said that its $865 billion plan would start creating jobs in larger numbers in the third and fourth quarters of 2009. That hasn’t materialized; net employment has dropped in an almost-uninterrupted decline from the end of 2007 to now.

Either way, though, Bayh’s parting shot underscores what Republicans have said all along about the Democratic agenda — that it’s based in ideology, not in reality, and that it has little to do with the real concerns of Americans. Including, apparently, Evan Bayh, but not including CNN, as Greg Hengler notes at Townhall:

CNN just can’t believe that Bayh could conclude that working in the private sector could have more impact than being in Congress in terms of job creation. It’s actually kind of cute to see religious believers in big government bitterly clinging to their ideology.

Update: Apoliticus has some fun musing on a John Edwards-like twist to this rift between Bayh and Congress.


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Would a guy who takes a parting shot be the kind of guy who would conspire with the WH to have their hand picked successor slide into his seat? I think not. He did it to hurt the Left, not help.

TheBigOldDog on February 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Dr Evil on February 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Actualy, the timing is about right for Reid to tick him off about the Jobs bill… for him to come back and consult with his family and such… and then to drop out of the Race.

This may be simple disgust about how Washington is working right now… where Pelosi and Reid, with Imperial Obama, are destroying the power of the indivisual Senators, and the process which has been in place.

Romeo13 on February 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM

I think that’s the fault of multi-culti and hyphenated-Americanism.

JiangxiDad on February 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Agreed. In any country there can be only one national culture. There should be freedom for those who have left another culture to continue to celebrate it is some form but that is an individual thing and not something that is force by society norms which is what the multi-culture movement is. The same goes for hyphenated-Americanism. Ones previous nationality has no relevance in your current culture except historic which is again only important to the individual.

docdave on February 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM

I’ve reluctantly concluded that it’s too late for us all. I think an economic tsunami is going to hit, and it’s going to make the politics irrelevant. I even think Obama is largely irrelevant at this point. He’s accelerated the demise to be sure, but it was coming for a long time–chickens coming home to roost kinda thing. Just like Europe’s monetary union had no real chance without real political union, the US wasn’t going to survive “multi-culturalism.” Both are no-brainers. Hopefully sometime in the future, the lesson won’t be lost. Some rump state is in our future.

JiangxiDad on February 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Sadly I agree with you. The USA may not last past my lifetime because of how centralized everything has become. I am a history teacher by trade, and every single great civilization fell when one group began forcing views and ideas on another group that they could not stomach. Whether it is gay marriage, evolution, or abortion. When one side is declared the winner and the losers are told to deal with it, the only thing that happens is contempt for the government. I would guess that America will splinter along ideological lines similar to the election map. I hope it will be bloodless, but very few civil wars are.

txaggie on February 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM

I don’t think there’s any political force that can create jobs, other than the government can grow government.

I think most people are commonsense and know this.

This particular meme which is, of course, supported by polls, shows the bias of the right press. It’s an impossible job.

I honestly don’t think Independents are going for that kind of partisan thinking, either.

The right is now misreading the pushback.

AnninCA on February 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM

Sadly I agree with you. The USA may not last past my lifetime because of how centralized everything has become. I am a history teacher by trade, and every single great civilization fell when one group began forcing views and ideas on another group that they could not stomach. Whether it is gay marriage, evolution, or abortion. When one side is declared the winner and the losers are told to deal with it, the only thing that happens is contempt for the government. I would guess that America will splinter along ideological lines similar to the election map. I hope it will be bloodless, but very few civil wars are.

txaggie on February 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM

You’re welcome to your cynicism, but it seems premature to me.

AnninCA on February 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Would a guy who takes a parting shot be the kind of guy who would conspire with the WH to have their hand picked successor slide into his seat? I think not. He did it to hurt the Left, not help.

TheBigOldDog on February 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I think he lost patience with the budget reconciliation agreement that Reid totally ignored.

He is right. It is ridiculous.

AnninCA on February 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM

Take the money for the next “stimulus” from the pesnion plans of Senators and Congressmen

J_Crater on February 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM

This may be simple disgust about how Washington is working right now… where Pelosi and Reid, with Imperial Obama, are destroying the power of the indivisual Senators, and the process which has been in place.

Romeo13 on February 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM

I don’t doubt he is disgusted with Reid and Pelosi but he has been in Politics for a long time he knows things change…shift. I think he weighed what he knows, with what is coming, and knows how the American Public is going to react. The party in power will be blamed. George W Bush – probably understood there would be a backlash over the economic downturn…tarps, bailouts porkulus etc… Mr Misunderestimated. It doesn’t matter how much the Democrats blame him now for the economy, they are the FACE of this Economy. The economist have been talking about inflation – when that hit’s it won’t be pretty.

Dr Evil on February 16, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Let’s wait for his inevitable book which will reveal all the crap that really goes on in Congress. That picture will give disfunctional a new standard.

Mallard T. Drake on February 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM

he want to be president

notagool on February 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM

You’re welcome to your cynicism, but it seems premature to me.

AnninCA on February 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

It isn’t really cynicism, rather me looking at the past and guessing what is going to happen.

1. The US has had a stable government with no serious threat to its existence for 221 years. The Civil War tested our Union, but the US was never in any real danger of losing to the Confederacy. As a result of the Civil War, government centralization has become expected and any dissent from the States is not tolerated. The Federal government no longer has any checks on its powers. Eventually it will decide something that some section of the country will not be able to support. When that happens, things will be decidedly unpleasant.

2. The melting pot has turned into a stew pot. When immigrants come to America now they are told to retain all aspects of their home country; that if they assimilate they are somehow betraying their culture. America is no longer a cohesive culture. People no longer think of themselves as Americans, but as citizens from another country who happen to be American. Without a central cultural identity tying us as a people, there is no reason for us to stay together.

3. No voting with your feet. Because the government has become so large and so intrusive, it is no longer possible to move to a place that better suits you. The recent arrests over marijuana, the recent legalization of gay marriage, and any of the other cultural issues in America that some accept and some don’t. This trend will only get worse. If something truly disgusts me, yet I am told that I must accept it, how can I do so willingly?

These three examples are the only ones I could think of off-hand. Every single civilization in the past decayed from within before splintering into regional powers. Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Minoan, etc. etc.

txaggie on February 16, 2010 at 2:29 PM

he want to be president

notagool on February 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Good. Let him form a centrist/liberal 3rd party, and run under that ticket. That should split a good chunk of blue collar/minority votes from the democrat party.

Rebar on February 16, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Wrong.

From the AP

Bayh denied an interest in running for president in 2012 either as a Democrat or independent. Asked on MSNBC if there were any chance he would run, Bayh said, “None, whatsoever.”

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Whoa! That clears it all up for me. Thanks, Lumpy!

Seriously dude, do you think Bayh would detail any plans in that direction the day after pulling chocks from the Senate? How many times did Hillary say she wasn’t running for President?

fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 2:32 PM

The same goes for hyphenated-Americanism. Ones previous nationality has no relevance in your current culture except historic which is again only important to the individual.

docdave on February 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Indeed. If our culture is of the classical western variety, as JianxiDad suggests, let ‘white christian-americans’ be the first hyphenated americans to lay down their cultural arms ;-)

We never really were one nation. On a fundamental level I disagree with multi-culturalism as the cause of all of this, primarily because we’ve never been of one culture. Look at the constitutional deliberations, the war between the states, civil rights, the current culture wars…with with our system of federated states the issue of nationhood was never a factor. We’re beholden to a creed in this country, not a culture. That was the point.

ernesto on February 16, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Good. Let him form a centrist/liberal 3rd party, and run under that ticket. That should split a good chunk of blue collar/minority votes from the democrat party.

Rebar on February 16, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Yeah, about 15 votes. If you want to split the Dem votes, you go to their left. There isn’t some mythical swarm of “moderate” Dems running around in the ether. They all became independents long ago. Democrat voters are mostly statists and conciously vote to enable more government control.

fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 2:36 PM

txaggie on February 16, 2010 at 2:29 PM

good points, as examplified by the recent Marijuana bust here in Denver.

Guy was apparently growing for Medical purposes, but the Feds busted him anyway, saying that it does not MATTER what the States wish…

This Federal Arrogance is starting to see a backlash, but it is literaly too late, because for about 120 years, the ONLY limits on the Power of the Federal Government, was the Federal Government itself… and they have continued to expand that power.

I might add, this expansion of power happened no matter which Party was in charge in washington… whether via a “Drug War” with a federal agency being able to seize property without just recompense… to the Obama takeovers of industry…

Now, however, like you, I see us at a decision point… will we, out of Cowardice, allow our Republic to die? Or, will some patriots work to take us BACK to a more limited Federal System…

Romeo13 on February 16, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Seriously dude, do you think Bayh would detail any plans in that direction the day after pulling chocks from the Senate?

fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 2:32 PM

No, but he emphatically denied having plans to run for President.

So, naturally, your first thought is, “He must be running for President.” LOL. OK.

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM

ernesto on February 16, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Hmmmm… I’ve never self identified as a “White Christian American”… just an American…

Now, people like YOU may categorize me as that… just as some Feministas call me a MALE American…

Its when you SELF identify as somthing else, that the problems begin.

Romeo13 on February 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Guy was apparently growing for Medical purposes, but the Feds busted him anyway, saying that it does not MATTER what the States wish…

Sure, it matters, but when state law contradicts with federal law, federal law wins. That’s not a new development.

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 2:42 PM

.They all became independents long ago.

fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 2:36 PM

If they pull the lever for a democrat, they’re democrats in my book. All too many who claim to be “independents” are in fact yellow dogs. But even those are getting pretty concerned over what’s happening – witness Scott Brown.

A centrist 3rd party would allow them to assuage their liberal white-guilt without signing on to the democrat party radical job-destroying agenda. And anything that splits the democrat party is good for America.

Rebar on February 16, 2010 at 2:43 PM

Romeo13 on February 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM

I didn’t mean it like that, I know you don’t self identify that way…but i find that people who expound cultural ‘america’ are really just referencing their white christian background. a background whose mores need not determine best practices today.

ernesto on February 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM

They’ve sure killed plenty though.

Rae on February 16, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Holy moly, pretty strong stuff coming from Evan Bayh.

He’s not just retiring. He’s retiring with a vengeance. Makes me wonder if there’s more to his retirement than has been told yet. Did someone/something turn on him to make him this way?

petefrt on February 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM

No, but he emphatically denied having plans to run for President.

So, naturally, your first thought is, “He must be running for President.” LOL. OK.

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Why else would he bother trying to establish conservative cred after declaring his intention to retire? Unless he wants to be governor. Keep laughing, fatso.

fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Why else would he bother trying to establish conservative cred after declaring his intention to retire? Unless he wants to be governor.
fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM

I could go for that, but why would he burn so many bridges behind him. Jeepers, he’s flaming.

petefrt on February 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM

fatso.

fiatboomer on February 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM

I think it’s fair to say that, when you find yourself making fun of someone’s weight on the Internet and you’ve never seen this person and thus have no idea what said person’s weight is, you’ve lost the argument.

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Also, now you’re saying he’s running for Governor. Before you said he was going to challenge Obama in the primary. So you fail again, champ.

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 3:34 PM

He’s not just retiring. He’s retiring with a vengeance. Makes me wonder if there’s more to his retirement than has been told yet. Did someone/something turn on him to make him this way?

petefrt on February 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, I don’t see why people aren’t asking more about this. I think he wanted the VP slot or at least a cabinet position, and when he didn’t get it, he got mad, and this is Bayh getting a little revenge.

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Hmmmmm. Interesting.

It’s way too early to say for sure, but Bayh might be positioning himself as the ‘rat version of Palin.

Allow me to explain.

As a conservative [and a Republican, which I believe she still more ‘for’ than ‘against’], her chief ‘beef’ is with the ‘machine’ ‘repubs [currently] controlling the party. Hence her stance of local-first, then ‘up’.

Bayh may be attempting to set himself up to be the ‘alternative focal-point’ to the Far Left/Progressive leadership that have completely ‘co-opted’ the Democrat Party.

As a former democrat of long-standing, I know what the party used to stand for [and be like], once upon a time. Well, Bayh’s been around long enough to know the difference between ‘then and now’, as do I.

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What triggered this? IMO, the obvious fact that the current leadership is fully prepared to sacrifice as many ‘moderate/blue dog’ ‘rats as necessary to get their leftist agenda enacted. Surviving the vote[s] aftermath comes in a far, far second, especially since none of them are part of the ‘new guard’.

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Face it, there is [currently] no potential banner-bearer for the non-progressive, ‘old-school’ democrats.

Bill Clinton is ‘compromised’ since Hillary would have give up her ‘seat of power’ [and he's a little too self-centered for the task, and she's very bit as leftist as Oobaka], algore is squarely in progressive/totalitarian camp [and getting filthy rich in the process], and I doubt Zell Miller would give the ‘rats the time of day, let alone lead the ‘Democrat’ Party out of the darkness.

So that leaves . . . ?

Am I right? Time will tell. If Bayh is mirroring Palin’s path it’ll become obvious soon enough.

The signals will be unmistakable when they arise.

CPT. Charles on February 16, 2010 at 3:52 PM

We’ll see whether the GOP establishment is conservative when they insert the clip of Bayh making this statement into campaign ads for this year’s election and for 2012.

ya2daup on February 16, 2010 at 4:35 PM

This probably deserves to be drizzled into the speculation processor if

Flatly denying any possibility that he’d seek the presidency or any other higher office, Bayh argued that the American people needed to deliver a “shock” to Congress by voting incumbents out in mass and replacing them with people interested in reforming the process and governing for the good of the people, rather than deep-pocketed special-interest groups.

is any indication.

Barnestormer on February 16, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Bayh may be attempting to set himself up to be the ‘alternative focal-point’ to the Far Left/Progressive leadership that have completely ‘co-opted’ the Democrat Party.

What triggered this? IMO, the obvious fact that the current leadership is fully prepared to sacrifice as many ‘moderate/blue dog’ ‘rats as necessary to get their leftist agenda enacted. …

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CPT. Charles on February 16, 2010 at 3:52 PM

Very interesting speculation.

Someone needs to rescue the Dem party from the progressives, for their party’s sake and ours too.

If the elections go as we expect, as it stands now there will indeed be a power vacuum in the party. Maybe you’re onto something. Maybe Bayh has his eye on it and he’s jockeying for position.

Hope so, anyway.

petefrt on February 16, 2010 at 6:43 PM

It’s actually kind of cute to see religious believers in big government bitterly clinging to their ideology.

Yes, and to their secular religion, and to their rhetorical guns.

RD on February 16, 2010 at 6:48 PM

He’s not just retiring. He’s retiring with a vengeance. Makes me wonder if there’s more to his retirement than has been told yet. Did someone/something turn on him to make him this way?

petefrt on February 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Like some as-yet-unreported arm-twisting over ObamaCare being the final straw? Or maybe demanding his buy-in as ‘moderate’ Dem for some treasonous ranks-closing maneuver this spring, that would spell utter political suicide? Though like others, I’m just speculating here.

Yeah, I don’t see why people aren’t asking more about this. I think he wanted the VP slot or at least a cabinet position, and when he didn’t get it…

Proud Rino on February 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM

…at first he was angry, but now he’s relieved, given the epic fail of the administration that’s materialized since then? He must be relieved as he–. Can’t imagine him regretting that now ;)

RD on February 16, 2010 at 7:00 PM

It can only mean one thing: a setup for a presidential run in 2016.

He realizes that with O’s lousy performance and his own recent hits on O-Care and Porkulus, he’s got no hope of winning in 2012 even if he wins a primary challenge.

It’s all a setup for 2016. He’ll be going into the pseudo-private sector of crony capitalism for four years, where he will make some serious $$$ and gutter-snipe President Sarah Palin on all the big weekend news shows, betting that things won’t go well for her and hoping to unseat her in four years.

How’s that for a theory? :) Apologies if someone else has already posted it, haven’t read page 1 yet.

RD on February 16, 2010 at 7:12 PM

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