Did the IPCC fudge the hurricane data, too?

posted at 9:30 am on February 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The UN panel on climate change has yet another challenge to both its process and its findings on a key element of AGW advocacy.  Meteorologist Dr. Les Hatton, who once worked on weather modeling for the British Met Office and now teaches at the University of Kingston, has taken aim at the notion that storms have increased in intensity over the last fifteen years, especially hurricanes.  He pronounces the IPCC claims on the subject as claims that would “never pass peer review” and provides a separate analysis that demonstrates no overall increase in intensity at all:

Hatton has released what he describes as an ‘A-level’ statistical analysis, which tests six IPCC statements against raw data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric (NOAA) Administration. He’s published all the raw data and invites criticism, but warns he is neither “a warmist nor a denialist”, but a scientist.

Hatton performed a z-test statistical analysis of the period 1999-2009 against 1946-2009 to test the six conclusions. He also ran the data ending with what the IPCC had available in 2007. He found that North Atlantic hurricane activity increased significantly, but the increase was counterbalanced by diminished activity in the East Pacific, where hurricane-strength storms are 50 per cent more prevalent. The West Pacific showed no significant change. Overall, the declines balance the increases.

“When you average the number of storms and their strength, it almost exactly balances.” This isn’t indicative of an increase in atmospheric energy manifesting itself in storms.

Even the North Atlantic increase should be treated with caution, Hatton concludes, since the period contains one anomalous year of unusually high hurricane activity – 2005 – the year Al Gore used the Katrina tragedy to advance the case for the manmade global warming theory.

This is an interesting development, especially after Dr. Phil Jones admitted that the medieval warming period (MWP) may have been global after all.  Earlier, AGW advocates had argued that rebuttals showing the MWP as significantly higher than the “hockey stick” increases were taking a Northern Hemisphere-centric view of weather, and that the Southern Hemisphere may not have experienced that kind of warming.  Jones’ admission was that there was no way to tell whether the Southern Hemisphere warmed or not meant that the only reliable records show the planet significantly warmer than anything we have experienced in the past century, and not just for decades but for several centuries — without carbon dioxide being the culprit.

In this case, it appears that the IPCC ignored readings from below the equator to bolster their claims.  Unlike in the MWP, we have plenty of measurements of storm activity in the Southern Hemisphere for that period.   If Hatton’s calculations are correct, the IPCC either ignored them or discounted them in the calculations.  Either way, the claims on storm intensity are now suspect, as is much of the IPCC’s claims and supposedly scientific process.

Update: Count Gawker’s Nick Denton among the skeptics … er, “sceptics.”

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The IPCC is the greatest thing that has ever happened to realists.

uknowmorethanme on February 16, 2010 at 9:32 AM

The IPCC and the WH have a lot in common….

SHARPTOOTH on February 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Another 3 inches of global warming here in Bucks County, PA this morning……..

rockmom on February 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

The IPCC and the WH have a lot in common….

SHARPTOOTH on February 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Yep. Neither one operates on reality based principles and both prey on the gullible.

Guardian on February 16, 2010 at 9:34 AM

It’s like taking a bottom card out after you’ve built a house of them… and then taking out another bottom card… and another bottom card…

UnderstandingisPower on February 16, 2010 at 9:34 AM

Another 3 inches of global warming here in Bucks County, PA this morning……..

rockmom on February 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Comment pages:

Yup…but not so much to dig out this time…

SHARPTOOTH on February 16, 2010 at 9:35 AM

At this point, EVERYTHING the IPCC has come up with has to be suspect. At the very least, the IPCC needs to be fully vetted and audited by a neutral third party to regain ANY credibility.

Actually, it should be abolished, and the “scientists” investigated and charged for fraud and misuse of taxpayer funds.

wildcat84 on February 16, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Anyone seen Al Bore lately? Haven’t heard a peep out of him since he cancelled his $2,000 a hand shake meeting at Copenhagen. Seems to me he should be at the forefront of defending these guys, after all he did win a Nobel Prize right?

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Now all we need is an American Media outlet that is willing to report on this the same way they were when it was “settled science”.

Mord on February 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM

If Hatton’s calculations are correct, the IPCC is in some serious sh!t.

(Back to the Future quote for the young’ns)

WashJeff on February 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM

He pronounces the IPCC claims on the subject as claims that would “never pass peer review”

Well, they would never pass peer review in a legitimate field, but in climate scientology, those claims would sail on through peer review and be absorbed as foundational truths of the field.

The problem is climate scientology is the peerage, who need to be jailed as soon as humanly possible.

neurosculptor on February 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Is anyone reporting this in America? Besides FoxNews and the NY Post?

gaius on February 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM

The IPCC, a political organization, and the AGW promoters were using the Procrustean Bed model to promote their findings: hack off limbs or stretch them to “fit” their bed of theories as “settled” science.

onlineanalyst on February 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

You’d think people would be relieved that we aren’t all about to die.

Mord on February 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

The good news is the fraudsters in the global warming farce followed the play book.
They found a crisis and tried to exploit it .
They told a BIG LIE enough times that many almost believed it .
Should anyone be surprised that the “money trail ” leads back to a corrupt member of the UN?
ISOLATIONISM might be the new platform for candidates in November .
Al Gore where is he ? How long before the lawsuits begin against him for all the $$ he EMBEZZLED under the CON game called ” trading carbon credits “

ELMO Q on February 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Algore is like the Peanuts character Pigpen. Everywhere he goes there’s a cloud over his head dropping snow.

ManBearPigpen!

Akzed on February 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

The IPCC and the WH have a lot in common….

SHARPTOOTH on February 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Another 3 inches of global warming here in Bucks County, PA this morning……..

rockmom on February 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Would both these comments require hip boots and a strong shovel?

Rovin on February 16, 2010 at 9:40 AM

The thing that really irked me about these claims is that observation has become more thorough in recent years, there’s no way to compare recent storms to old ones.

For example, I think Hurricane Rita went up to a category 5 in the middle of the night about a day before it hit land. It wasn’t cat 5 anymore when it came ashore – I think it quickly went down to category 3. In 1950, it probably would have gone in the books as a 3+ storm. In the 21st century, it was counted as a 5 because they were able to measure the wind speeds in the eye wall at 3:00am.

forest on February 16, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Barbara Boxer et al.

Stupid?

ignorant?

evil?

Criminal?

FOWG1 on February 16, 2010 at 9:42 AM

ManBearPigpen!

Akzed on February 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

An instant classic!

neurosculptor on February 16, 2010 at 9:43 AM

The only way this nightmare of dishonesty won’t repeat itself in the future, is for those responsible to be held accountable. Al Gore should be sued by tens of thousands of people, businesses, and corporations; all of whom have paid a price for his part in this scam.

Accountability must be feared or the same will be repeated in time.

Keemo on February 16, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Hurricane Hatton.

I blame this on George W. Bush.

Del Dolemonte on February 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM

among the skeptics … er, “sceptics.

What good is a “k” anyway…
Welllllll, as the real science keeps rolling in, you can bet few of the militant scientists will give in.
Right now they are on a full court press to try to find some “out” for their misbehavior.

This will go down in history as a “Galileo” moment. When the church tried to shut out his works, the scientists have tried to shut out people like Lindzen.

All of science has been harmed by this…all of them, and they don’t get it. Everytime some scientist will come up with a proclamation, no matter how “valid”, we will be sceptical.

right2bright on February 16, 2010 at 9:47 AM

The warmers must feel like the woman who finds out her boy friend doesn’t own the bar or a sports car and vacations in the south of France. Now he may not even be employed! What’s next a wife and family in the next town?

Kissmygrits on February 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM

A shorter, more manageable list, would be one in which the IPCC told the truth and dealt with facts and reality instead of lying.

oldleprechaun on February 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM

Al Gore where is he ? How long before the lawsuits begin against him for all the $$ he EMBEZZLED under the CON game called ” trading carbon credits “

ELMO Q on February 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

How about an Oscar & Nobel recall??? Certainly this could go under a “gas-pedal” repair.

Rovin on February 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM

It’s like taking a bottom card out after you’ve built a house of them… and then taking out another bottom card… and another bottom card…

UnderstandingisPower on February 16, 2010 at 9:34 AM

How many deck of cards did they use? I mean we are talking about major claims that pretty much built the foundation of global warming that are being proven false and the former head of the CRU admitting that there hasn’t been any warming since 1995, yet they are still trying to keep the house of cards up.

Maybe they are using glue to keep the cards up? I mean we can see that it’s being held together by false means, but there are still people out there that continue to spew the talking points about how global warming causes more snow.

MobileVideoEngineer on February 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM

I thought the science was settled, and the debate was over.

darwin on February 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Accountability must be feared or the same will be repeated in time.

Keemo on February 16, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Accountability don’t come into it. Everyone should have known this had turned into cult status when people started “believing in” global warming/climate change. Once it became a “belief” no one was ever going to be held accountable when the house came crashing down. Same way everyone “believed” DDT was killng the planet back in the 60s/70s. Look how many people died from malaria after the DDT ban that started from that stupid Rachel Carson book. IMO she goes on record as the largest mass murder in all of history. 50+ million and counting.

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

The trick to being a successful communist propagana machine is that you have to make sure that the proletariat have no access to the real information. I don’t think the IPCC realizes this.

Sharke on February 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Well if AGW is fake, then what will the CIA do now with all those spy satellites?

Weight of Glory on February 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM

Well if AGW is fake, then what will the CIA do now with all those spy satellites?

Weight of Glory on February 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM

They can scope out the ladies on nekked beaches – if it’s warm enough to swim.

forest on February 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM

With the AGW issue now failing miserably, let me go out on a limb and say we will soon be confronted by Gorbalists with the complaint, “But what will we do about global overpopulation?” and “The global population is unsustainable” which was, IMHO, the real motivation for most of this AGW scare, IYKWIMAITYD.

Dusty on February 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Much of the so called increase in hurricane activity came in the form of small, short lived storms, that stayed away from coastlines.

In the pre-satellite days, most, if not all of these storms would have been missed.

MarkTheGreat on February 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Are you clairvoyant or did you just forget to link Doc Zero’s post?

Rovin on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Wouldn’t it be easier to figure out what the global warming fear mongers got right? If anything?

tarpon on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

ELMO Q on February 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

The answer to UN corruption is isolationism??????

MarkTheGreat on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

The trick to being a successful communist propagana machine is that you have to make sure that the proletariat have no access to the real information. I don’t think the IPCC realizes this.

Sharke on February 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

They along with Obama and his string pullers keep forgetting that this is the United States in 2010, not Germany in 1935 or Russia. We have technology and alternate news sources. I fully believe this is why they are trying to get their hands on the internet and why they keep trying to discredit Fox News. They did it a little backwards though as they should have done all of that before they lied to us.

MobileVideoEngineer on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

the notion that storms have increased in intensity over the last fifteen years, especially hurricanes

Just one look at this graph and you can see that hurricanes have not increased, and are just about the same as they ever have been.

Ryan Maue studies hurricanes at Florida State University, and he had this to say in comments here:

Global (Northern Hemisphere) tropical cyclone ACE for the months May – June – July is the lowest in at least the past 30-years or more.

I, for one, am not surprised. Continued inactivity should persist for the next few weeks until the atmosphere catches up with the radiative warming of the tropical oceans due to the season called summer.

2007 was a dud. 2008 was saved from being a record year by 2007. 2009 is behind the pace of both years. Amazing how natural variability affects tropical cyclone formation, tracks, and intensity. Who would have thought?

I suggest anyone interested in any of this backtracking with the IPCC to go to Wattsupwiththat for a layman’s look, or Climate Audit for the in-depth look at the numbers.

Patriot Vet on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Given the amount of fudge cooked up for the IPCC reports, someone alert the NYC Board of Health to raid the UN to check for health code violations.

ya2daup on February 16, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Barbara Boxer et al.

Stupid?

ignorant?

evil?

Criminal?

FOWG1 on February 16, 2010 at 9:42 AM

I’m going to vote for C and D. I’m ready for the fraud trials and prosecutions to begin.

Midas on February 16, 2010 at 10:00 AM

I want Congress to stop all legislation, enacted or proposed based on this fraud. There is no reason to ruin the economy with rules based on the conclusions of bogus science.

highhopes on February 16, 2010 at 10:00 AM

They can scope out the ladies on nekked beaches – if it’s warm enough to swim.

forest on February 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Ironically, that would be a better use for them than monitoring polar bear migrations and glacier movements.

Weight of Glory on February 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM

I love IPCC fudge!

Mmmm mmmm mmmm.

(Although they tend to add too many nuts.)

profitsbeard on February 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM

Are you clairvoyant or did you just forget to link Doc Zero’s post?

Rovin on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Wow I must be psychic. I haven’t been to the green room yet today. But it’s a pretty recurring theme for non-greens with her book. I remember having to read that drivel in junior high. Scared the crap outta me thinking the entire planet was going to die.

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Won’t be seein’ the nekkid ladies here

http://www.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&article=2

Doorgunner on February 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM

The warmers must feel like the woman who finds out her boy friend doesn’t own the bar or a sports car and vacations in the south of France. Now he may not even be employed! What’s next a wife and family in the next town?

Kissmygrits on February 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM

Yeah, but in the face of all of that, they still love him, damnit, and will defend him to the end.

Midas on February 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM

I heard this morning that the president is expecting concessions on healthcare to get two nuclear power plants built in Georgia. Either it’s good for the country or it isn’t, no trade offs.

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Critics point out that an increase in low-intensity storms being recorded is due to better instrumentation. Most are at sea, and thanks to radar and satellites, more are now observed.

’nuff said.

rbj on February 16, 2010 at 10:11 AM

I imagine the NSM will publicize the refutation of yet another AGW myth all over the place, Right?

Right?

Chip on February 16, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Anyone seen Al Bore lately? Haven’t heard a peep out of him since he cancelled his $2,000 a hand shake meeting at Copenhagen. Seems to me he should be at the forefront of defending these guys, after all he did win a Nobel Prize right?

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM

There’s a snowstorm in Atlanta,
And a white-out in D.C.
The orange groves have been quite frigid,
As has all of Tennessee.
12 inches have hit ground in Dallas,
Are you in Knoxville in your palace?
ALBERT GORE JUNIOR, WHERE ARE YOU?

**to the tune of Car 54 Where Are You?

kingsjester on February 16, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Gee are you people dumb!
Everyone knows the Earth is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth.

Plus this article is Racist and it’s all George Bush’s fault.

BruceB on February 16, 2010 at 10:18 AM

There’s no way a comparison can be made between north Atlantic storms and east Pacific ones. They’re different locations, which means two data sets. It’s truly comparing apples and oranges.

Now, I’m going to cover my ears and sing Mary Had a Little Lamb loud as I can. /sarc

Liam on February 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM

“Fudge the numbers” is such an inappropiate phrase to describe what the IPCC did here.

Whereas “bald-faced lied” seems far more suiting.

pilamaye on February 16, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Look how many people died from malaria after the DDT ban that started from that stupid Rachel Carson book. IMO she goes on record as the largest mass murder in all of history. 50+ million and counting.

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

There is so much scientific evidence to back you up here too. Well said. The CFC ban has many of the same weaknesses yet is also used as a policy tool.

GnuBreed on February 16, 2010 at 10:22 AM

This should help spell the end of the ‘peer review’ process on scientific matters relating to public policy. The public is paying for these studies on climate change. The raw data is thus public property and should be posted on the web. There, thousands of people can examine the data for accuracy, trends, and conclusions. This will HELP the scientific process. Scientists seek conclusions, not preordained results. Posting on the web can also bring together a wide range of people of differing skill sets. This is what is happening now on AGW.

GnuBreed on February 16, 2010 at 10:32 AM

He’s published all the raw data and invites criticism, but warns he is neither “a warmist nor a denialist”, but a scientist.

That I can live with.

Bob's Kid on February 16, 2010 at 10:33 AM

WHY NOT !! ??

Everything else about this fraudulent report and fraudulent “science” and fraudulent climatology scam is a lie!

ExpressoBold on February 16, 2010 at 10:42 AM

The picture Ed picked to put with this story is awesome. I love weather. Why are the Warmists always trying to change it? Just learn to adapt properly and prepare for it and appreciate it for its magnificent beauty.

NoLeftTurn on February 16, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Gee are you people dumb!
Everyone knows the Earth is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth.

Plus this article is Racist and it’s all George Bush’s fault.

BruceB on February 16, 2010 at 10:18 AM

an…an…and…AND… the condoms are too tight, TOO!!!

Yoop on February 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Once again old news that Grey has exposed several years ago.

Kermit on February 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Wouldn’t it be easier to figure out what the global warming fear mongers got right? If anything?

tarpon on February 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Here’s what they got right. “Hey, if we make up a bunch of stuff and fill it full of pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo and fake a lot of data I’ll bet we can fool enough idiots to make a bundle of money.”

Oldnuke on February 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Anyone seen Al Bore lately? Haven’t heard a peep out of him since he cancelled his $2,000 a hand shake meeting at Copenhagen. Seems to me he should be at the forefront of defending these guys, after all he did win a Nobel Prize right?

Johnnyreb on February 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM

LOL The ultimate authority on global warming, who won an oscar for his movie about alleged agw is probably holed up under his bed, with his blankie, his thumb, a box of twinkies, and beer. LOL

capejasmine on February 16, 2010 at 11:07 AM

“Anyone seen Al Bore lately?”

[kingsjester on February 16, 2010 at 10:15 AM]

He back at the supernova-like UHI he calls home, where neighbors know him not as snow-blower guy, but as snow-melter guy.

Dusty on February 16, 2010 at 11:07 AM

Why do we allow Obama to WASTE more money on yet another department when we already know that NOAH and NASA have cooking their books along with the IPCC!
It is time to demand of our representatives that they force the EPA to pull back their worthless regulations that are killing business, and never go forward with the co2 findings. Also that they put the cap and tax bill where it should be, in the shredder! And if Obama wants to continue down his path of worthless regulation, and tax on fraud and lies we will consider him a part of it and bring the proper charges to him along with the rest of the people.

The people of America DEMAND repayment from Gore, and the others of ALL of the money that has been stolen from us based on fraud!

Let the lawsuits begin on behalf of the American people.

patriotparty1 on February 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM

The trick to being a successful communist propagana machine is that you have to make sure that the proletariat have no access to the real information. I don’t think the IPCC realizes this.

Sharke on February 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

The IPCC did realize this, which is why they tried to keep the truth under wraps for so long, and conspired to keep dissenting articles out of scientific publications.

Unlike mythical tributes to the heroic glory of some Big Brother, it’s hard to keep a secret of the weather–everybody experiences it! If somebody keeps grandstanding for years about GLOBAL warming, and people are bundling up and shoveling snow year after year, they start to wonder whether to believe the scientists or their lying eyes or frostbite.

Steve Z on February 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM

This was never about global warming or global climate change. This was about MAN MADE global warming/climate change. You can tax it if it’s man made and restructure society with that as an excuse.

BL@KBIRD on February 16, 2010 at 12:01 PM

More relevant question: Is there anything the IPCC didn’t fudge?

mojo on February 16, 2010 at 12:02 PM

In this case, it appears that the IPCC ignored readings from below the equator to bolster their claims. Unlike in the MWP, we have plenty of measurements of storm activity in the Southern Hemisphere for that period. If Hatton’s calculations are correct, the IPCC either ignored them or discounted them in the calculations

Either way, both scientists calculations could be correct. If you take the average number/strength of hurricanes in the N. Atlantic during the first period and compare it to the second period, it may be statistically significant. Moreover, in the second analysis, when balanced with the S. of Equator storms, it’s just as likely to be not significant. The difference lies in the predictions and the application of the analysis.

A more appropriate application of statistical tests would be regression analysis–which is leaning more towards prediction. Both the number, the strength and the location of storms could be entered into a predictive model and be helpful in developing a model for future storms. However, when simply using a z-test, and ignoring other factors that may be predictive, then erroneous conclusions can occur, particularly when it comes to causation.

ted c on February 16, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Two nuclear plants…Merely a political bone. We need a hundred nuclear plants in the pipeline just to replace the aging plants we already have. He couldn’t wait to de-fund Yucca mountain after billions had already been spent…He means to bring this country to its knees via energy starvation…Wind and Solar are hopelessly outclassed by coal, oil, nuclear and gas energy solutions and will never be viable alternatives. He is smart enough to know this, so his demogoguery of energy issues merely give away his true motivations…

Nozzle on February 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Can you say Euro-centric? I guess Hurricanes in the Pacific are just second-rate storms.

hawksruleva on February 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM

What I’d like to see, at this point, is a “class action” lawsuit filed by all of the American parents whose schoolkids were forced to watch Al Gore’s movie, and were traumatized. Included as defendants should be Gore, the schools, states which sanctioned the movie allowing the schools to directly require it for grading purposes, etc.

Nothing gets the attention of such statist bureaucrats like a good old fashioned lawsuit.

KendraWilder on February 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM

If it helps the IPCC come to grips with how science is supposed to work, here’s a story where a scientific view that had held for decades was overturned earlier this year….

ironman on February 16, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Before you all celebrate the end of AGW, ask yourself if any of this new information is being publicized in the mainstream newspapers, TV, or newscasts where the naive public will be now informed?

We know about this because we come to a conservative news aggregate site which 99% of the public does not know exists. I fear we are thinking AGW is dead, when in fact, as Jay Leno could attest in his Jaywalking episodes, John Q Public has little to no knowledge of any of this. And don’t expect Jon Stewart to inform them.

keep the change on February 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM

There is a new NOAA climate education website linked up from the National Weather Service homepage. In watching some of the videos on this new site, it’s quite clear that the intent is pushing forward the idea AGW. Obviously our tax dollars hard at work for us!

To get a feel for the information provided, watch the video about Dr. Susan Solomon (2007 Nobel Peace Prize recipient and IPCC panel member) winning the 2009 Volvo Environment Prize. It is heavily bent on AGW which is unacceptable especially considering the whole Climategate fiasco we’re living through now.

If you can make it through the 10:41mins of pontifications, the very end is quite ironic (too bad the videos are not dated) with Dr. Solomon closing out the video with the line, “It’s just amazing how powerful science is, facts can actually move mountains.” What is also very well known is that facts can not only move mountains, but facts can also erode them away with time like wind and water. Unabridged scientific data peer reviewed by an unabridged scientific audience is the only science that can be accurately called “science”. Anything less is just a bunch of words and numbers picked out of thin air to push an agenda.

Science is very strict in how it is defined and as such should be given deference in the court of public opinion. Those who espouse and use the scientific method are entrusted with a special responsibility to the world. When this trust is breached, especially on the scale of Climategate, the scientists pushing their “settled science data” should be castigated in both the court of public and scientific opinion.

If certain individuals are found to have knowingly covered up provable data contrary to their “accepted” scientific conclusions, their tenure should be withdrawn and career ended. In certain instances such as Climategate, the primary conspirators should be brought up on fraud charges since their “science” (bought with taxpayer money) sought to cripple the world economy with a special focus placed squarely on the American free enterprise system.

The rogues’ gallery of government that is the Obama Administration continues to grow day by day.

**So people does anyone out there know how we the people go about getting this crap off of our taxpayer funded sites and out of our school books? Also, how do we get started a lawsuit from taxpayers to bring Gore and gang to justice and clean them out to recover as much money as possible?

patriotparty1 on February 16, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Two nuclear plants…Merely a political bone. We need a hundred nuclear plants in the pipeline just to replace the aging plants we already have. He couldn’t wait to de-fund Yucca mountain after billions had already been spent…He means to bring this country to its knees via energy starvation…Wind and Solar are hopelessly outclassed by coal, oil, nuclear and gas energy solutions and will never be viable alternatives. He is smart enough to know this, so his demogoguery of energy issues merely give away his true motivations…

Nozzle on February 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM

It’ll take decades to get all of the permits the EPA requires to build a nuclear plant. The lack of a place to put the nuclear waste, itself a deal-killer, will probably never become a problem.

hawksruleva on February 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Unfortunately, it’s gonna take a whole lot more to change the thinking of true believers, especially if they have financial and power ties to the belief.

The great thing about all this fraud being found out on absolutly every single level of AGW is that the average voter now can see the light.

I think this will have grave effects to Obama and the Left in general.

TheSitRep on February 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM

He’s published all the raw data and invites criticism, but warns he is neither “a warmist nor a denialist”, but a scientist.

Unpatriotic bastard… looking at data and such. Doesn’t he know the science is settled and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot against science?

And publishing his data and inviting criticism? He’s not doing science, scientists don’t allow criticism, and they delete their data so critics can never find it.

That is how real Climate Science works… or so I’ve learned.

gekkobear on February 16, 2010 at 3:28 PM