Boxer in trouble in California

posted at 2:55 pm on February 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Usually, when an incumbent can’t get above 50% in a poll, holding the seat begins to look like a long shot.  In California, Rasmussen’s latest poll shows that Boxer can’t get above 47% against any of the three Republicans vying for the nomination to run against her.  Two of them manage to get within the margin of error in the poll:

For the second month in a row, incumbent Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer is in surprisingly tight races with three potential Republican challengers in California.

Most troubling for Boxer in the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state is her continuing inability to cross the 50% threshold against any of the GOP hopefuls. Incumbents who capture less than 50% of the vote at this stage of the campaign are considered vulnerable. …

Boxer leads former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina 46% to 42%, virtually unchanged from January. Another seven percent (7%) would vote for some other candidate, while five percent (5%) are undecided. Boxer led Fiorina by nine points in November and 10 points in September.

The incumbent also holds a four-point lead over former Congressman Tom Campbell, 45% to 41%. Four percent (4%) like another candidate, and 10% are undecided. Boxer held the same lead over Campbell, just after he joined the race in January.

Andrew Malcolm wonders whether the dump-Democrats tidal wave can reach California:

For a Democrat in a Democrat state that gave Barack Obama 61% of its votes in 2008 (and still likes him more than many other places) to be mired in the mid-40′s is a sign of real trouble. This is especially so given the fact that disgruntled voters gave Democrats control of the House, Senate and White House in 2008, expecting something to happen beyond another[C]ongressional payraise. Voters appear to be looking at a the stubborn ineffectiveness of the much-vaunted economic stimulation bill, continued high unemployment and waning Obama approval. It’s not like they don’t know Boxer after all her years in the state’s public life. To help with the warmth of money, Boxer will have Al Gore headline a fundraiser for her next weekend.

Yes, sure, incumbents retain huge powers and money advantages over challengers and it’s a long time until November, when the five-term ex-representative Boxer will turn 70. But nationally, indications are growing that 2010 could be a tidal wave election beyond the usual midterm swing with voters believing in a different kind of change to believe in.

Is it possible they could dump out a Democrat even in California?

Looking at the internals of the poll, it’s possible — but it really depends on turnout.  Without Obama at the top of the ticket, Democrats can’t count on the kind of flood-the-zone turnout they got in 2008.  There will be a battle to replace Arnold Schwarzenegger as governor, but none of the candidates have the candlepower to provoke a massive turnout on their own.

Throughout the rest of the country, independents have fueled a backlash against Democrats.  That’s not so much the case in California.  Each of the Republicans edges Boxer in unaffiliated voters, but not by much.  Fiorina does best at 45/40, Campbell slightly less well at 42/38, while DeVore gets 41/40.  Those aren’t numbers among likely voters that portend a seat change, at least not at the moment.  However, her favorability among independents is well under water, at 45/51, never a good sign for an incumbent, and more strongly disfavor her than strongly support her, 30/39.

Another factor in Boxer’s favor: Obama is still popular among Californians, more so than nationally.  Rasmussen puts his approval rating at a health 58% in the Golden State, with only 41% disapproving.  He gets the exact same split among independents, which tends to argue that (a) Boxer is really seen as extreme and/or ineffective, and (b) the reaction to the Obama agenda seen in other states won’t be as much of a factor in California.

The real wild card may be instead the state-level anti-incumbent fervor.  The state is mired in financial meltdown, and Democratic control of the state legislature makes them particularly vulnerable to a big anti-Democrat turnout.  Rasmussen didn’t poll on legislative elections, but that could become a factor in November, especially after the budget process this summer.   Without that, though, don’t get your hopes up for a Republican takeover quite yet.

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At the very least we need to force the Dems to spend huge sums defending her seat.
JEM on February 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM

And for once it would be nice if the GOP spent huge sums on the right candidates, but don’t expect that.

Blackhawk45 on February 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Bye bye Babs, sorry, Sen. Babs

rjoco1 on February 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM

I’ve been voting against Boxer for what seems like my entire adult life. It seems hard to imagine that anything short of the grim reaper will ever pry her out of that office.

I’m very much hoping to be gone from this state before I have an opportunity to vote against her again. If I’m not gone, I will.

trigon on February 16, 2010 at 6:23 PM

I’ll STILL vote for Fiorna and Whitman. I believe they are the ones that have the potential to win and make a bit of difference.
Sultry Beauty on February 16, 2010 at 4:53 PM

The problem with that is you just get another McAmnesty.

Blackhawk45 on February 16, 2010 at 6:24 PM

The Rasmussen poll mentions the third candidate by name – Chuch Devore – as having 42% to Boxer’s 47%. He is the most conservative of the three:

Last year, Campbell supported Proposition 1A, which would have extended for two years the largest state tax increase in U.S. history. This lost 2-to-1; it lost in every county and even in this collectivist city. Campbell also favored increasing the gas tax by 32 cents. Fiorina has cited the “cap-and-trade” legislation of John Kerry, D-Mass., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., as praiseworthy bipartisanship. DeVore has no such deviations from conservative orthodoxy.

taken from here.

Unfortunately he doesn’t have the personal capital to run with demon sheep.

DeoGratias on February 16, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Oh, but DeVore DOES have an answer to those pesky Demon Sheep.

As he said this morning:

Chuck DeVore Past agreements between Boxer, Fiorina & Campbell: Amnesty, cap-and-trade, Wall Street Bailout. I offer a choice, not an echo.

Can’t wait to knock Senator Ma’am off her pedestal.

NTWR on February 16, 2010 at 8:20 PM

It would actually be disappointing if she ‘retires’…I’m looking so forward to her concession speech. That seem’s to take the wind out of their arrogant sails…heh!

Ltlgeneral64 on February 16, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Keep in mind that unemployment in CA is higher than the national average. …things have gone from bad to worse to abysmal…

ocbrat on February 16, 2010 at 11:38 PM

I know I’m not the first to say this, but I do hope Boxer takes it in the shorts.

Extrafishy on February 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM

Another factor in Boxer’s favor: Obama is still popular among Californians, more so than nationally. Rasmussen puts his approval rating at a health 58% in the Golden State, with only 41% disapproving. He gets the exact same split among independents, which tends to argue that (a) Boxer is really seen as extreme and/or ineffective, and (b) the reaction to the Obama agenda seen in other states won’t be as much of a factor in California.

Or (c) the effect of psychedelic drugs on a large segment of the population.

Extrafishy on February 17, 2010 at 7:55 AM

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