Joe the Plumber: I can’t support Palin if she supports McCain

posted at 7:18 pm on February 15, 2010 by Allahpundit

Where does this fit in the great hierarchy of authenticity politics? Sarahcuda may be the most salt-of-the-earth pol on the American landscape but she’s also an internationally famous celebrity and multimillionaire. Surely a blue-collar Joe who’s been known to fix toilets outranks her. Does that mean she’s now been formally excommunicated from the church of “true conservatism” — as I suspected — or did yesterday’s NASCAR appearance imbue her with some sort of impregnable authenticity forcefield?

More importantly, does this mean Meggie Mac was right?

Wurzelbacher touched on several different points during his speech, and many of them were surprising. He said he doesn’t support Sarah Palin anymore. Why? Because she’s backing John McCain’s re-election effort. “John McCain is no public servant,” he told the room, calling the 2008 Republican nominee a career politician.

I pointed out he’d just be plain old Sam Wurzelbacher of Ohio — Joe the Plumber wouldn’t exist – without McCain. His response was blunt. “I don’t owe him s—. He really screwed my life up, is how I look at it.”…

Wurzelbacher also told the room to lay off the extreme personal attacks on President Obama. He said people who question whether Obama was born in the United States or compare him to Hitler “belittle and set back” the conservative movement. “The birthers, the truthers — if people are trying to bunch them [with tea partiers], that would kill us. That just pushes away Democrats and independents who might come out for our cause otherwise.” He said he actually likes Obama, in some ways. “I think his ideology is un-American, but he’s one of the more honest politicians. At least he told us what he wanted to do.”

A semi-related footnote: Chris Simcox, head of the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps and third-party challenger to McCain in Arizona, dropped out today and endorsed J.D. Hayworth to help unify grassroots opposition to Maverick. I’ve been skeptical that Palin would pay a price among conservatives for backing McCain since her endorsement can be chalked up to personal loyalty, but the higher profile this race becomes, the more of a litmus test it will seem — especially now that tea partiers are making inroads inside the GOP, at both the very highest and very lowest levels. Even among our own readers, who skew heavily pro-Palin, 42 percent thought she shouldn’t be out there stumping for McCain. Exit question: Time for Sarah to have a change of heart, or will her inevitable endorsement of Rubio balance the scales?


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oh my? How about who cares?

rob verdi on February 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Your 15 are over Joe……..

RealMc on February 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Not as long as Allah and the Lame-Stream Media keep him in the limelight.

rmgraha on February 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Spirit of 1776 on February 15, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Rallying point could work as far as McCain went. Obama’s expressions when he mentioned Joe seemed like condescending humor as in “John I see the same polling data you are looking at”

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

crr6: yep, we voted for McCain. and we would all do it again & drag all our “let’s punish the RINOs” friends with us. ’cause crr6: Obama is thatbad.

kelley in virginia on February 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Allahpundit,

This is OLD NEWS.

You are ANTI-PALIN.

Fact.

QUIT “HOT AIR” NOW if you have nothing better on which to report.

Lockstein13 on February 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Isn’t this like, 3 days old now? Needing a traffic boost, AP?

lansing quaker on February 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM
While I was thinking of a similar snarky comment, you beat me to it.

Political Junkie on February 15, 2010 at 7:25 PM

I was thinking that AP was running re-runs during the Olympics.

thomasaur on February 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

DeMint’s politely snubbing McCain… I wonder what Joe thinks of Jim…

MeatHeadinCA on February 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Well this only makes Palin look like more of a centrist. Her numbers will go up.

HondaV65 on February 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 7:45 PM

McCain has a lifetime conservative rating of 85 or more. How can you possibly call him a socialist?
If not for McCain-FeinGold and his stand on the immigration bill he would have very muted criticism from conservatives.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Psst. Hey Allahpundit, when are you going to post on Palin writing on her hand?

portlandon on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

More importantly, does this mean Meggie Mac was right?

Yeah, she’s a progressive all right, just like she said.

FloatingRock on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

let me ask you this… how many people would change their minds or their vote according to what dopey joe says? maybe some of his relatives? a few more dolts? so who cares, other than our dolt phony critic – allahpundit

look, why do we have to have this phony antagonist on this site? I know that you are always supposed to have one to create some controversy and get the crowd worked up and to generate hits and comments to refute them, but this is infantile.

can’t the web site management at hotair get a better phony critic?

PhilipJames on February 15, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Uh, what exactly did Allahpundit do wrong? He was very analytical and didn’t criticize anyone.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

and you gotta admit: McCain has some juice in Congress & he knows where money is too. he can help Palin in the future if his back-biting staff/campaign people stay out of it.

kelley in virginia on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Glenn Beck said so.

blatantblue on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

QUIT “HOT AIR” NOW if you have nothing better on which to report.

Lockstein13 on February 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Set up your own blog that gets a few million hits a month and draw away the commenters if you feel that strongly about it.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

I disagree on the bracelet grounds. Remember that astonishingly phony moment where he had to look at his wrist to read that bracelet during the debate? These two events go hand in hand in my mind in that it was part of the O campaign strategy to incorporate (engulf, perhaps better word) McCain’s themes. So he also has a bracelet, he was the most bipartisan (M’s strength), he was more interested in tax cuts for the middle class, etc.

So I think it was an attempt by both sides to seize that demographic. But yes, I agree that only the McCain side was trying to rally at that point, but I don’t think O used it for humor.

Spirit of 1776 on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

“I think his ideology is un-American, but he’s one of the more honest politicians. At least he told us what he wanted to do.

Appearently Joe doesn’t read Morrissey’s daily Obamateurisms

Rovin on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

HotAir Commentariat,

WE NEED GET SARAH PALIN TO INDIANA! OVERNIGHT!

Go to Ace of Spades HQ for the background – there is a hard-left democrat who needs 4500 petition signatures (500 from each of Indiana’s 9 Congressional districts) to get on the ballot as the Democrat nominee for Evan Bayh’s seat, otherwise the Indiana state party machine gets to pick the nominee!

Please paste this “Bat Signal” (or Moose Signal) where her web people can detect it and get the word to her:

Her FaceBook page

Free Republic

Red State

…etc.

Sarah can draw at least 1000 hardcores anywhere she goes. Sarah, pick a few key districts, put out a notice thru your web channels, and just show up! Ace’s Morons will sweep the crowd for the signatures.

DanOwillbookem on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Indeed. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

davidk on February 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

That’s why AP put up the thread ;)

Spirit of 1776 on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Glenn Beck said so.

blatantblue on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

LOL

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Uh, what exactly did Allahpundit do wrong? He was very analytical and didn’t criticize anyone.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Remember

AP hates Sarah Palin and hopes she dies.

right? am i right?

blatantblue on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Backing McCain will probably help her with independents, who supposedly decide the elections. And it should help her with conservatives that liked McCain over Romney.

Godzilla on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Cheney will beat that ass in a debate with the don-kees.

la.rt.wngr on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

after McCain “discovered” JTP, all his tax lien history came out which was problematic for Joe. however, he wouldn’t be a “celebrity” without McCain.

kelley in virginia on February 15, 2010 at 7:47 PM

That’s not true. Joe got the Indonesian imbecile to spout his marxist claptrap (“spread the wealth”, “I don’t want to punish success, but …”) long before McShame or anyone had heard of him. McShame tried to use Joe in the debate and that is when all the investigations of Joe started in Ohio and the sh!t hit the fan. McShame glommed onto Joe, and then McShame screwed up the opportunity that Joe had handed him on a silver platter, preferring to say that the Indonesian imbecile would be a fine Precedent who wasn’t a danger.

The two greatest chances that America had to avoid The Precedent and the killing of our nation were Palin and Joe Wurzelbacher. And they almost pulled it off, but there was always that idiot at the head of the ticket screwing everything up.

neurosculptor on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

McCain has a lifetime conservative rating of 85 or more. How can you possibly call him a socialist?
If not for McCain-FeinGold and his stand on the immigration bill he would have very muted criticism from conservatives.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

The other day, Michelle Malkin posted a longer list of things that most conservatives disagree with.

MeatHeadinCA on February 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Spirit of 1776 on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Eh, could be.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM

I am going to be neutral on the issue with McCain, I do not think anyone thinks she really supports McCain other than as a thank you for picking her for VP.

astonerii on February 15, 2010 at 7:44 PM

In order to believe this, you’ve got to believe that Palin is willing to actively work to re-elect the leading member of those she claims to be fighting. McCain stands against almost everything Palin claims to be for.

In order to believe what you’re suggesting, you would have to believe that Palin is playing a game. You would have to believe it’s not as important as she makes it out to be. You would have to believe she is willing to work for the enemy, if that enemy happens to have done something for her in the past.

Isn’t that EXACTLY what she’s claiming to be fighting against?

So, we’re to believe that Palin is selling out her ethics, beliefs, morals, and philosophy … to return a favor?

IF this is what she’s doing, she’s no different than the rest.

Smells a little bit like Lou Dobbs.

Bottom line? If Palin goes through with her plan to campaign for McCain … she’s finished.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Palin had absolutely no choice but to endorse McCain. The fact that Joe doesn’t see that reality does not speak well of him and his intellect. Yes, it sucks for her, but she can’t betray the man that brought her to national prominence. To do so would have been a political nightmare of epic proportion. Gotta think logically, Joe.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Palin had absolutely no choice but to endorse McCain. The fact that Joe doesn’t see that reality does not speak well of him and his intellect. Yes, it sucks for her, but she can’t betray the man that brought her to national prominence. To do so would have been a political nightmare of epic proportion. Gotta think logically, Joe.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

She didn’t have to endorse anyone. She could have waited till after the primaries to endorse/campaign for McCain.

MeatHeadinCA on February 15, 2010 at 7:55 PM

but,but,but….Palin took a Sharpie pen to her McCain ’08 Hat!!!

portlandon on February 15, 2010 at 7:55 PM

Remember

AP hates Sarah Palin and hopes she dies.

right? am i right?

blatantblue on February 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Some of the commenters need to calm down.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 7:55 PM

Bottom line? If Palin goes through with her plan to campaign for McCain … she’s finished.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Finished in whose minds?

I think it is a good move on Palin’s part.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Infantile. If you can’t understand why Palin is supporting McCain than you’ve failed basic test of political adulthood.

rrpjr on February 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Set up your own blog that gets a few million hits a month and draw away the commenters if you feel that strongly about it.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Are you the official “Hot Air Ass Kisser” now, Bradky?

Just want to make sure I give you the respect that title deserves.

David2.0 on February 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Joe’s opinions are his and his alone.

He can’t raise my taxes. He can’t write an amnesty or cap and trade bill. He can’t give terrorists lawyers and civilian rights…

During the campaign of ’08, he was throwing ball with his kids in his front yard when ‘Barry in short pants’ and an army of press came walking by.

He was the only one, at that point, that got ‘Barry in short pants’ to admit what he was going to do to this country… “Spread the wealth around.”, and he was crucified for it.

So for that, I’ll drink a beer with him.

I think his statement is more towards John McCain that it is Sarah Palin, but that’s just me.

I want JD Hayworth to make McCain have the run of his life, and have to defend his record.

I still love Sarah, but again, that’s just me.

Seven Percent Solution on February 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Palin had absolutely no choice but to endorse McCain. The fact that Joe doesn’t see that reality does not speak well of him and his intellect. Yes, it sucks for her, but she can’t betray the man that brought her to national prominence. To do so would have been a political nightmare of epic proportion. Gotta think logically, Joe.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

That’s absolutely ridiculous. You don’t actually believe that, do you? DOH!

So just how much of a “political nightmare of epic proportion” do you think it’s going to be for Palin in the middle of the next fight for Amnesty, when she’s having to defend why she’s supporting the King of amnesty himself?

Good luck with that.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

McCain has a lifetime conservative rating of 85 or more. How can you possibly call him a socialist?
If not for McCain-FeinGold and his stand on the immigration bill he would have very muted criticism from conservatives.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Huh, lifetime rating, eh? Going back 26 years? Bet it would be a lot lower if they just looked at the last ten years. He was against the Bush tax cuts (because they were for the rich!). He supported TARP. He supports Cap and Trade, though now that it’s finally proven that AGW is a fraud, maybe he’ll flip-flop. Citizens Against Government Waste gives Hayworth a better rating. McCain can try hiding behind Sarah’s skirts. I ain’t buying it. And my opinion matters. I happen to actually live in Arizona.

Special K on February 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Sometimes too much to whiskey to drink isn’t nearly enough.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on February 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM

FIFY…

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Just want to make sure I give you the respect that title your awesome wisdom deserves.

David2.0 on February 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Why Thanks Dave!

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM

The guy asked a good question that flushed out Obama.

Someone give him a watch and a pat on the back. It’s over.

wraithby on February 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Yes, it sucks for her, but she can’t betray the man that brought her to national prominence. To do so would have been a political nightmare of epic proportion.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Not at all. Palin has no obligations to McShame. If anything, McSHame owes her for even getting him close – which he then blew all on his own.

I think Palin is making a big mistake endorsing and campaigning for someone who is almost single-handedly responsible for the GOP disasters in 06 and 08 and still refuses to go the f#ck away. I let her slide on this, but I won’t forget this very poor decision on her part.

neurosculptor on February 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Infantile. If you can’t understand why Palin is supporting McCain than you’ve failed basic test of political adulthood.

rrpjr on February 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Wow. How can we argue with that explanation. When facts and arguments are laid out so well, it’s impossible to argue.

You win.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Allahpundit,

This is OLD NEWS.

You are ANTI-PALIN.

Fact.

QUIT “HOT AIR” NOW if you have nothing better on which to report.

Lockstein13 on February 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Psst. Hey Allahpundit, when are you going to post on Palin writing on her hand?

portlandon on February 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Good evening, I’m Mr. Allahpundit. The producers of Hotair have asked me to explain the threads we have been having lately. Let me be frank – it is an attempt to boost blog site hits. There are many ways to do this: sexier scripts, more warmth and big-name guest stars. But, we’re on a budget. So until some big news hits the fan, we’re going to rely mainly on three sure-fire ratings grabbers: Sarah Palin (including newly reported writings and diagrams on her left thigh in a breaking story coming soon), atheism, and, best of all, for today anyway, on another one of our exciting threads, a real cliffhanger ending, that will keep our viewers glued to the edge of their seats until tomorrow, what inanities will come out of Joe Biden’s mouth next. Thus, ensuring there will be a tomorrow. Trust me. I know what I’m doing.
- Anonymous source

Joe Bloggs on February 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM

JTP has the right to support who ever he likes. Just because he is no longer going to support Palin because of her endorsement of McCain is no big deal as far as I can see and doesnt really make that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

As for Palins support of McCain, personally I would have preferred that she not gotten involved. But I understand that she owes McCain a certain amount for helping her go national and being the classy person that she is, she fully intends to make good on that debt. Its a necessary evil I’m afraid.

Hellrider on February 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM

I dunno … maybe we should cut Joe some slack. He is being honest.

darwin on February 15, 2010 at 7:32 PM
But no one is criticizing him for being dishonest, they’re criticizing him for being an idiot.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Dammit Proud, why’d you have to go and make me agree with you…

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Allahpundit I would think Palin supporting a “moderate” like McCain would be something a candyass like yourself would support. Aren’t you the one always lecturing conservatives to seek the middle road. Not to be so rigid in their ideological beliefs. I have wondered why you have not giving her any kudos for this endorsement, or are you just afraid of the boss?

chief on February 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Finished in whose minds?

I think it is a good move on Palin’s part.

Bradky on February 15, 2010 at 7:56 PM

And we should give weight to the opinion of one of our resident trolls, why exactly?

The fact that you support her decision, is all the more evidence that it was a bad one.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Exit question: Time for Sarah to have a change of heart, or will her inevitable endorsement of Rubio balance the scales?

My what a stupid question, on at least two levels. If she quit on McCain (after quitting her gubernatorial position) she would provide her opponents with a punch line that might never go away. Balance the scales? She could be guilty of a thousand transgressions and the scales would still tip in her favor.

Basilsbest on February 15, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Yes, it sucks for her, but she can’t betray the man that brought her to national prominence. To do so would have been a political nightmare of epic proportion.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Not at all. Palin has no obligations to McShame. If anything, McSHame owes her for even getting him close – which he then blew all on his own.

I think Palin is making a big mistake endorsing and campaigning for someone who is almost single-handedly responsible for the GOP disasters in 06 and 08 and still refuses to go the f#ck away. I let her slide on this, but I won’t forget this very poor decision on her part.

neurosculptor on February 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM

No disrespect, but not everyone in this country of 300 million is as political attuned as us Hot Air readers. Perception is reality when it comes to elections and the perception of Sarah campaigning for Hayworth would be that of a backstabber. Again, gotta think logically here.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Who is Joe the Plumber to me? Meh.

darii on February 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Palin will be loyal and give McCain a sympathetic phone call when he loses, too.

And it means nothing for her chances.

Joe the Plumber’s monkeywrench opinion on the matter is his own.

Go J.D. Hayworth!

And GO SARAH!

profitsbeard on February 15, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I think Sarah’s found herself backed into a lot of corners lately. Not that those aren’t somewhat of her own making, but still, consider:

The Tea Party Convention – Like most people, Sarah didn’t realize that there were (almost from the beginning) two national Tea Party organizations, and that one, Tea Party Patriots, emphasized local, decentralized grassroots efforts while the other, Tea Party Nation, focused on national, organized and well-funded events. In her enthusiasm to support the movement (which she’d been unable to do while still Governor of Alaska), she accepted the invitation to what she thought was a genuinely representative event. Alas, by the time it became clear that the event was not what it should have been, she found herself the main event. To pull out might bolster her public appearance of integrity, but more likely it would only offer more targets to detractors: Sarah Palin, the Quitter, the pundits would say, and it would undermine the Tea Parties, for if even Palin would not associate with them, they must surely be a fringe movement. So she stays in and makes the best of it. Whatever heat she’s taking for her speech, it’s NOTHING to what would have been said had she bailed. More importantly, she saved the Tea Party movement from discredit and embarrassment, which might turn out to be her shrewdest move yet.

McCain – McCain has to run again. If he retires, it looks like he wasn’t really ready to serve after all, and reinforces the liberal assertion that he always was too old, so it’s a good thing we picked young, fresh Obama. And McCain knows he seriously risks losing, so he NEEDS young and fresh to support him. Fortunately, he’s got young and fresh readily available in the form of Sarah. He’s been careful not to criticize her even while his former campaign staffers and even his daughter have not held back, knowing he would need that good will down the line. The time came, and what could Sarah say? “Thanks for giving me my big break John, and I swear I still think you’re a brave war hero and all, but you’re old and RINO-y and you’re totally going to cramp my style if I want to win in 2012.” Does that sound like the Palin we admire? Nope, she said (a la Queen Esther, I’ve only recently realized) “Politically speaking, if I die, I die.” So she does what an honorable woman must, and campaigns for him, with the faith that whatever’s meant to happen will.

I really admire Sarah’s willingness to do what she thinks is right even when it appears to be the least pragmatic action she could take. It’s true that she might be building barriers on her own path to the presidency, but I don’t mind so much. A public servant with integrity is so rare, it’s just a pleasure to behold. I really won’t mind if she never becomes president, because I think she can have just as positive an effect on this country doing what she’s doing right now as she might in office. Barry Goldwater never became president either, but we’re still deeply indebted to his legacy.

I don’t worship Palin, so don’t start that crap with me. But if you can’t admire her, at least grudgingly, you’re not paying attention.

Animator Girl on February 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM

She could be guilty of a thousand transgressions and the scales would still tip in her favor.

Basilsbest on February 15, 2010 at 8:07 PM

People aren’t paying attention. Sarah Palin is popular because they think she’s the ‘real deal.’ If she insists on supporting McCain, this goes away. She will instantly lose the support of much of her base. Citizens who are irate over the thought of amnesty will dump her and never look back. Citizens who are angry over McCain-Feingold will say bye-bye. Tea Partiers who are angry over Global Warming fraud and Cap and Trade will say adios Seniorita Palin.

Of course, some of you act like Obama supporters and simply don’t care what she does. She’s your candidate and you’re sticking with her, no matter what.

You might want to reflect on that for a bit. Are you putting on the same exact blindfolds that got us into this mess in the first place?

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Hmmm. AP back from his whale watching/speeding dating vacation?
HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 7:44 PM

He couldn’t wait to get back to his poster of Meggie..

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 8:16 PM

So why is Palin backing a RINO?

DougDavis on February 15, 2010 at 8:20 PM

Perception is reality when it comes to elections and the perception of Sarah campaigning for Hayworth would be that of a backstabber. Again, gotta think logically here.

Jim-Rose on February 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM

I just disagree very strongly with this. Much of America – even those not paying close attention – dislike McShame and think that he is a fool. Most of America hates him for his Shamnesty, and those who missed that hate him for throwing the election (as much as was within his power).

Personal relationships should not override sound policy, and campaigning for a slug like McShame is bad “policy”. Palin should have just kept out. She could have said nice words about the old coot, if she wanted, but she had no obligation to actually endorse and campaign for him. She’ll have to answer for his insane positions, now. Either she agrees with them (like Shamnesty – which is a dath blow for anyone to endorse) or she disagrees with them and would be pushed to say.

Palin made a mistake here. Not fatal, but a clear mistake. And her putting a personal relationship over policy considerations doesn’t buy her anything good.

neurosculptor on February 15, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Dude… take a chill pill!

Palin isn’t running for anything.
You don’t live in Alaska.
You are not a resident of Arizona.
And your support or lack of it is, well, meaningless.

Blake on February 15, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Joe blames McCain for his problems not Obama?
He thinks people need to lay off the extreme personal attacks of Obama?
He never asked anyone to lay off the extreme personal attacks on Palin and her family.
Seems he is out for Joe and only Joe.

lonestar1 on February 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Joe the Plumber supports J D Hayworth. Hayworth is the Ed Schultz of the right.

lonestar1 on February 15, 2010 at 8:24 PM

She’s your candidate and you’re sticking with her, no matter what.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM

I didn’t even know she was running for anything. Here I thought she was just supporting other people’s candidacy.

malclave on February 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM

I really admire Sarah’s willingness to do what she thinks is right even when it appears to be the least pragmatic action she could take.

A public servant with integrity is so rare, it’s just a pleasure to behold.

Animator Girl on February 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Don’t you think you have that a bit backward? You’re saying you admire her “willingness to do what she thinks is right even when it appears to be the least pragmatic action she could take” and that “a public servant with integrity is so rare, it’s just a pleasure to behold”, but her actions are exactly the opposite. She’s selling out her integrity. She’s selling out her beliefs. She’s not doing what she thinks is right. You’re telling me that she’s fighting for someone who does not share her political philosophy, simply to return a favor? Nonsense. There’s much more to this than that. If not, it’s even worse.

So, if Hugo Chavez had once done a huge favor for Palin, would you defend her for running around talking about how great he is? And don’t tell me that’s not a valid analogy. It’s the perfect analogy. John McCain is everything Sarah claims to be fighting, and now she’s going to run around telling us all how great he is. GAG.

Hey! Hugo promised us all free gas for our cars! I better go down to Venezuela and pose for some photos for him. You know … to thank him. Just returning a favor.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Exit question: Time for Sarah to have a change of heart, or will her inevitable endorsement of Rubio balance the scales?

You devil! The question is will Palin campaign for McCain the same way McCain campaigned for president? We can only hope so.

SouthernGent on February 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM

I didn’t even know she was running for anything. Here I thought she was just supporting other people’s candidacy.

malclave on February 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Yeah. Sure thing. And that’s why we’re sitting here having a conversation about whether or not this is going to hurt Sarah.

Keep on keeping on dude.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM

You are dead to me, Joe! Your 15 minutes are up now(because he thinks Obama is honest).

silvernana on February 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM

SouthernGent on February 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM

LOL.

neurosculptor on February 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Joe the Plumber asked Obama a great question. Obama fumbled the question and won the election anyway. The press, acting as an opposition research team, went after Joe the Plumber. If they hadn’t, Joe the Plumber would have been a one hit wonder.

The Politically astute will understand that, you have to support the John McCain’s of this world, otherwise you’re not going to get the Scott Browns of this world.

When it comes to primaries, I believe you fight for who you believe in and let the best candidate win. Once that primary is over, you support the winner, even if you have to hold your nose.

If I’d h eard Joe the Plumber say that, he’d be OK, in my book. I didn’t.

bflat879 on February 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Maybe it’s time to flush Joe the Plumber.
I always liked Tito the Builder better anyway.
Tito rocks!

Brian1972 on February 15, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Palin has made a mistake, here, but she’s proven herself to be effective at some crucial times (more than a few times, showing that it’s no fluke) and somewhat of a natural talent who generally works on good issues. She stumbles here and there but mostly hits good, hard shots.

neurosculptor on February 15, 2010 at 8:35 PM

If Palin was VP I do not think he would not support her. Along with McCain as POTUS.

Joe is the next Levi, Joe the Plumber of Playgirl.

Without RINOS the Senate will be Dem control for 20 more years and not only 10 more months

tjexcite on February 15, 2010 at 8:36 PM

OK ALLA you have had your 3 negative Palin post for today give it a rest.

thmcbb on February 15, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Palin campaigning for McCain over Hayworth is a legitimate issue, but seriously, who gives a shit about what Joe the Fucking Plumber says?

Godzilla on February 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Are we allowed to use the “f” word here? There’s a lot of words much milder than this that I see people editing. I’m not offended, just wondering how much I can get by with.

silvernana on February 15, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Irrelevant idiot milks 15 minutes of undeserved fame…next.

Squid Shark on February 15, 2010 at 8:37 PM

I would love to think that McCain would make a great Senator, but the man can’t be trusted to remain a conservative if the Republicans take Congress back. What he did in the past goes beyond reaching across the aisle. (please notice that the Liberals never, ever reach across the aisle)

mobydutch on February 15, 2010 at 8:38 PM

You are dead to me, Joe! Your 15 minutes are up now(because he thinks Obama is honest).

silvernana on February 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Obama was honest. He told us in advance everything he was going to do. People simply chose to not believe it.

Come on. You do remember all those conservative pundits writing about how he would change his ways once he was in office, don’t you?

He told us in his own words how he was going to “spread the wealth around.” Ironically, it was Joe the Plumber himself who tried to point that out, but people still chose to not believe it. Naw! He wouldn’t really do that. He told us how he would purposely cause energy rates to skyrocket, and how he wanted cap and trade.

Do you not remember any of this? Obama told us EXACTLY what he believed in, and morons voted for him anyway.

McCain tells us EXACTLY what he believes in, and morons vote for him anyway. Funny how that works.

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Also, don’t forget that McCain has been a staunch supporter of the Global Warming Hoax.

mobydutch on February 15, 2010 at 8:42 PM

In case it hasn’t already been said, McCain didn’t make JTP famous, The Bammer did. Typical MSM BS trying to create some faux controversy and make someone on the right look bad. Ole Mac just glommed onto Joe to try and milk Joe’s blue collar authenticity for a few votes from those of us with MDS (McCain Derangement Syndrome). Of course MDS is a genuine afliction caused by Ole Cranky himself which makes it unlike BDS or PDS. ;)

JimP on February 15, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Did Palin ask sor Joe the Plumber’s support? I don’t think so!

SilentWatcher on February 15, 2010 at 8:49 PM

It’s called loyalty, Joe. Look it up.

Ryan Anthony on February 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM

When did Joe move to Arizona? I thought he lived in Ohio. His vote only counts in AZ and apparently he does not live there. It’s like when Alec Baldwin stated he would move if Bush won. Unfortunately, he never did. Same thing here Joe, should Sarah decide to run and win the GOP nomination… you will support her… I mean look at the alternative?

shar61 on February 15, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Why are people so surprised that Palin just might have more in common with McCain? They both gained a reputation for fighting with other Republicans. They both got initial praise from Democrats. They both think Teddy Roosevelt style diplomacy is the best.

Speedwagon82 on February 15, 2010 at 8:55 PM

She’s selling out her integrity. She’s selling out her beliefs. She’s not doing what she thinks is right. You’re telling me that she’s fighting for someone who does not share her political philosophy, simply to return a favor? Nonsense. There’s much more to this than that. If not, it’s even worse.

So, if Hugo Chavez had once done a huge favor for Palin, would you defend her for running around talking about how great he is? And don’t tell me that’s not a valid analogy. It’s the perfect analogy. John McCain is everything Sarah claims to be fighting, and now she’s going to run around telling us all how great he is. GAG.

Nope. I think, that in our understandable desire to rid the country of the rot that is creeping progressivism, we’ve gotten to the point where we’ll elevate ideology over common decency.

John McCain is not comparable to Hugo Chavez and you know it, so sorry, but I don’t accept your premise. Were John McCain president right now, we’d still be drifting left, but he wouldn’t be cozying up to the likes of Chavez and other dictators, nor proposing sweeping nationalizations of industry.

Sarah ran with John McCain. I repeat, she CHOSE to accept his invitation. What’s the veep’s job? TO PROMOTE THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. Using your logic that her choice to do the exact same thing now is selling out her beliefs, she should have refused his offer. McCain was as much a RINO then as he is now, possibly more so, and we all knew it. Why, then, didn’t you dislike Sarah from the start, for aligning herself with McCain? This move to support McCain is hardly out-of-character, so why are you suddenly so disappointed?

Sarah has had MANY other chances to sell out her beliefs, and she hasn’t. Why does a personal act of loyalty to a man who just might have earned it make you disregard every other choice she has made? Palin would be cruel to spit in his face over a relatively minor difference in principles, and I think it’s cruel to suggest she should.

Good grief, it’s not like she’s campaigning for Pelosi.

Animator Girl on February 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM

Gregor were you part of the pack that thought Palin quitting her job as governor would ruin her chances forever? Because this argument is along the same lines…
I am really tired of Palin being pushed and pulled to fit an ideological mold in some people’s minds…I love it that she is not afaid to do what SHE wants–not what all of YOU want…
I see this as being loyal to McCain, nothing more, nothing less…it will blow over and be long gone from people’s minds in the long run, and if you all want to be a one-issue decrier of her politics–well then, so be it…
I’ll take having a beer with Palin any day over having a beer with Joe…

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 9:05 PM

Good grief, it’s not like she’s campaigning for Pelosi.
Animator Girl on February 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM

Thank you. Post of the day.

joejm65 on February 15, 2010 at 9:12 PM

I’m sorry. Didn’t he support McCain?

spmat on February 15, 2010 at 9:23 PM

This is dumb on the part of Joe the Plumber.Sarah Palin will be just fine with or without the support of Joe the Plumber.

Phil Byler on February 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM

I can’t support Palin if she supports McCain

Well, I won’t withdraw MY (potential)support because of it, but it is a BIG strike against her.

LegendHasIt on February 15, 2010 at 9:30 PM

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Gov Palin is honoring McNasty as he had selected her for his VP. It would be wrong for her to do otherwise.
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Joe, you had your 15″, grow up

SERFER62 on February 15, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Support how? Does Palin have a broken toilet? It’s not like she’s running for anything.

Ronnie on February 15, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Wurzelbacher is more authentic than Palin, and he doesn’t go round kissin RINO ass like McCain and Texas Governor Rick Perry. Unlike a quitted former governor of Alaska I know.

paulsur on February 15, 2010 at 9:39 PM

I’ve come around on the McCain thing and if anything if she is president, he can be a help to her as a senator…

Why is JTP so mad at McCain? Didn’t McCain bringing him to nationl prominence after the Obama “spread the wealth” thing ultimately lead to us paying off his tax liens? Did he want something else?…Isn’t McCain the same person today as he was when JTP was schlepping all over the country with him? For that matter isn’t the McCain of today the same McCain who Palin said she would be honored to serve our country with?

CCRWM on February 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM

I’m with Joe. I’ve been saying this since she decided to support the cross-over candidate. In fact, it was her I was voting for back then – but not now. I’m a JD Hayworth man all the way and anyone that supports McBenedict is on my $hitList.

I, and many of my associates, have had enough of these elitist politicians, like McCain and his buddies [rest his soul] Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, et al. We don’t care that the “maverick” is now advertising heavily as a “conservative” when he was one of the biggest obstructions to the Republican majority with his “Gang of Fourteen” and “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” and “They’re all God’s children” crap…

JD Hayworth is solid through and through. Sarah should be backing him if she is with us patriots.

Go JD!

ArgoNunya on February 15, 2010 at 9:47 PM

I’ll take having a beer with Palin any day over having a beer with Joe…

If Palin were just stumpin for McCain it would be one thing, but she is also in my state, where you have two career Rinos and an authentic republican conservative. Who do you think Palin stumped for here? It ain’t the authentic republican conservative, I can tell you that much.

paulsur on February 15, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Quittin sarah can take her elitist career RINO buddies back to Alaska with her. Just keep her out of the Texas gubnatorial race, we don’t need her stumpin for RINOs here.

paulsur on February 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM

John McCain is not comparable to Hugo Chavez and you know it

Animator Girl on February 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM

What the Hell does that have to do with it? That’s not the point, and YOU know it. The point is, you’re saying it’s okay to sell out your political philosophy and run around urging people to support a person who’s agenda is opposite of what you’re saying you believe in, all because that person did you a huge favor once before. THAT’S the point, and it’s EXACTLY the same. McCain’s agenda and politics are opposite of what Palin says she supports, and she’s going to tell Arizona voters that they should vote for that agenda? Because he did her a favor?

Nope.

Good grief, it’s not like she’s campaigning for Pelosi.

Really? So what is the major difference between Pelosi and McCain, other than military?

Cap and trade? Check
Obamacare? Check
Amnesty? Check
Bailouts? Check
Global Warming? Check
Against waterboarding, loud music? Check

Oh wait. At least Pelosi doesn’t believe in “walking across the aisle.”

Gregor on February 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM

I am pro-Palin (for the most part) and anti-McCain and live in AZ. I have voted for McCain once and won’t do it again.

Ray Flicker on February 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM

Are we allowed to use the “f” word here? There’s a lot of words much milder than this that I see people editing. I’m not offended, just wondering how much I can get by with.

silvernana on February 15, 2010 at 8:37 PM

I got moderated for using the word c*ckroach (o not asterisked) so I don’t know what to tell ya besides taht maybe Allah and Ed have different standards

CCRWM on February 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM

This is supposed to be about Arizona. Two differing opinions from outsiders about an incumbant US senator surely will be forgotten by the beginning of the first session of the 112th congress or sooner.

I have to wonder though, if JTP had said only negatives about McCain and left the Palin endorsement alone, would this story have made its way to a main page post on HotAir? Seeing that the blogger is who he is, I can within reason answer my own question in the abosolutely not category. A whore is a whore of core of core {sing it to the Mr. Ed theme A horse is a horse of course of course }. Way to go oddball, you did it again.

Americannodash on February 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM

Wurzelbacher is more authentic than Palin, and he doesn’t go round kissin RINO ass
paulsur on February 15, 2010 at 9:39 PM

“The birthers, the truthers — if people are trying to bunch them [with tea partiers], that would kill us. That just pushes away Democrats and independents who might come out for our cause otherwise.” – Joe the Plumber. Might push away the Democrats and Independants? Isn’t that the group that McCain bends over backwards to please? Mr. Wurzelbacher, how…RINO-esque of you.

joejm65 on February 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Quittin sarah can take her elitist career RINO buddies back to Alaska with her. Just keep her out of the Texas gubnatorial race, we don’t need her stumpin for RINOs here.

paulsur on February 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM

OMG you’re supporting the “Truther”? no wonder you won’t say her name….

CCRWM on February 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM

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