Industry study: US will lose over $2 trillion in 20 years in drilling ban
posted at 12:55 pm on February 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
How much money is the US losing by maintaining its de facto drilling ban on the coasts and the explicit ban on drilling in ANWR? The SAIC Corporation studied the question, in part funded by the oil industry, and claims that the American economy will lose over $2.3 trillion dollars in opportunity costs over the next two decades:
Restrictions on oil and gas drilling will cost the U.S. economy $2.36 trillion through 2029, according to a study requested by state utility regulators and paid for in part by industry-sponsored groups.
Drilling restrictions in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and off the U.S. coastline are blocking access to about nine years’ worth of U.S. oil and gas consumption, according to the report. Among sponsors are the National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners and the industry-funded Gas Technology Institute, of Des Plaines, Illinois.
Former President George W. Bush and Congress ended bans in 2008 on drilling along the U.S. coastline. The Interior Department hasn’t acted to open the newly available areas, including offshore Alaska and on the U.S. Outer Continental Shelf in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Congress has kept the Arctic refuge off limits. …
The report, issued today, said opening the areas would free up 43 billion barrels of oil and 286 trillion cubic feet of gas. The U.S. used 22.8 trillion cubic feet of gas and 5.2 billion barrels of oil in 2009, according to a press release issued with the report.
The usual caveats apply to studies funded at least in some degree by parties with vested interests in the outcome. Obviously, oil and gas companies would like to gain access to these areas; after all, they’ll be the ones getting a chunk of that money. The request from state regulators may or may not fall into this category as well, since some of the states would like to collect license fees on the sales of leases off of their shores.
However, there are obviously some opportunity costs lost in the refusal to use our own resources for energy production. Instead of sending billions to Brazil to boost oil production off of their coast, the private sector could invest its own money into leases and extraction. This would create hundreds of thousands of high-paying jobs here in the US, as well as reduce our trade deficit. It would provide a more stable bridge towards our shift to replacement energy sources in renewables, while boosting access to cheaper energy in the short run to make the American economy more dynamic. Without it, energy prices will rise much faster than inflation, making our economy more sluggish than necessary.
Do those opportunity costs total $2.36 trillion over 20 years, and the loss of an average of 0.52% GDP in those years? Perhaps a more independent study will confirm that. Until then, though, we know we’re losing a lot of opportunity and shoveling more and more of our money into markets that allow some hostile nations to profit from it. That should be enough to have American looking homeward for its energy, no matter where it lies.









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That all? Would of thought it would be closer to $2T per year.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Go Cloward and Piven! /sarcasm
shick on February 15, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Who was it that said, drill here, drill now? HINT: Not the President of the United States.
Dr Evil on February 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Does this study include the amount of money we would be saving as US production forces down the world price of oil?
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM
This report does not even include those wells that won’t be drilled onshore in the lower 48 due to BLM restrictions.
nodaky on February 15, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Cloward/Piven 2012!
rogerb on February 15, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Drill until you hit caribou marrow you unbelievable idiots.
trubble on February 15, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Smart power. We will lead the new energy economy. The one that lacks energy and economy. The only thing green about it will be the stems and leaves of the daisies pushed up from all the people that are bound to die from the economic collapse and subsequent failure in agricultural output that is bound to follow.
daesleeper on February 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM
I seem to remember “drill here, drill now” Got McCain/Palin close, if not actually ahead, in the polls while Gasoline was $4+ per gallon. Then the bubble popped and the cost per gallon dropped by 50%. I havn’t heard a single politician say the word “drill” ever since, only “energy independance” and “green”.
Mord on February 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM
no shite.
The number seems a little low to me.
ORconservative on February 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM
can’t we all just drive a Prius instead???
Throw out our Incandescent bulbs???
Use one square of Toilet Paper per wipe???
SDarchitect on February 15, 2010 at 1:05 PM
Our politicians will do what is right for America when it just a little too late.
Dasher on February 15, 2010 at 1:08 PM
What else is there that could turn the economy around besides the energy sector? God gave us all the resources we could possibly need and it seems wasteful to not exploit them.
fourdeucer on February 15, 2010 at 1:08 PM
but….I thought switch grass was going to solve the world’s energy problems!!!!!!!! /sarc
search4truth on February 15, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Liberals/Progressives/Statists/Malcontents can you please explain how it’s acceptable to fund drilling in Brazil but not here?
I used to be against drilling until I educated myself re: the latest technology/environmental impact of offshore procedures.
visions on February 15, 2010 at 1:10 PM
“Derrr, what’s an ‘opportunity cost’? Is that like when we miss an opportunity for the Government to run something?” – Team Obama’s crack economists
forest on February 15, 2010 at 1:11 PM
This is music to Obama’s ears. He has to be deemed to intend the natural consequences of his actions, and his actions, if unchecked, will lead to the destruction of our economy and thereby the destruction of our culture.
GaltBlvnAtty on February 15, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Ugh. If we started drilling now, everywhere, and building power plants, a real economic stimulus would occur which would have employers literally begging people to come and work for them.
Bishop on February 15, 2010 at 1:12 PM
…………..feel that hope and change?
PappyD61 on February 15, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Gee with Global Warming proved to be a farce, why cant we drill here and drill now?
EliTheBean on February 15, 2010 at 1:15 PM
The Democrats have been telling this lie for so long … And the mythical quest of energy independence. And this has cost America $800 billion a year in wealth transfer.
Meanwhile if you ask the U.S. EIA, the USA has the highest proved fossil fuels supplies as any nation.
And to further the pain, coal to liquids refining technology, as used by the NAZI war machine can yield quality fuel at less than $40 barrel of oil equivalent. The Crow Indians have one such plant under development. Search google for “Fischer-Tropsche”.
tarpon on February 15, 2010 at 1:16 PM
WHOA!!! Obama and the donks are all for being energy independence, just not for using our own natural resources. They are also all for nuclear power if only we had a place for storing the waste.
jukin on February 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Drill. Dam. Nuke. NOW!!
Maquis on February 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Is the National Organization of Women a power source?
WashJeff on February 15, 2010 at 1:20 PM
LOTS of hot air!!! LOL
search4truth on February 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM
We are approaching the third year since the spike of gas prices summer 07 and not a thing has been done to ensure it does not happen again. All during that period we had to hear about how it would take 10 years to see results. If we had started then we would be one third of the way there.
In 1981 these political ckskrs. declared a moratorium on drilling,nuclear plants,and construction of new power plants w/out any backup plan. I hold both parties responsible. They are contemptible.
arnold ziffel on February 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM
From a strategic standpoint, since oil is a finite resource, let’s buy all the oil we can from others before digging into our own supply, while we get the conservation thing down right.
It might not be the best short term move, but our economy will definitely be better off vs. others, since I think we are more capable of withstanding high oil prices than other developed (or developing) nations.
unclesmrgol on February 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM
I’ve dropped a link to this post from the front page of At The Water Cooler
Shortly I will have an archive category for “currency” with complete information on “why we should care” … The banking cycle – business cycle – Boom and Bust – Collapse of the dollar – or whatever you wish to call it … the bottle line is if the economy is unsustainable it will go bankrupt and fall into foreclosure. If we can not keep our promise to pay and are in a state of crisis – we can not buy on credit.
AtTheWaterCooler on February 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM
The trade deficit is really just a result of the US being an attractive place to invest. However, it would reduce the relative price of foreign goods, which isn’t bad.
Count to 10 on February 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM
The “it’ll take 10 years” argument has been used for… a few decades now, hehe.
If “use theirs and when it runs out, we’ll still have a bunch” argument was a conscious plan of action it would be debatable, but that’s not really what’s going on. We’re not intentionally forgoeing domestic drilling as part of some strategic plan.
Midas on February 15, 2010 at 1:26 PM
To me, that just shows how rich we still are. We burn our food for fuel because we have such an overabundance of it that we can even consider the idea.
Most anywhere else in the world, doing that would mean starvation. Not in America.
Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 1:26 PM
Age of Obama: Opportunity cost = letting a crisis go to waste
forest on February 15, 2010 at 1:28 PM
I don’t know why (and it’s not a perfect analogy) but this brought to mind a mental image of Easter Island and the latter minutes of the movie ‘Rapa Nui’.
Midas on February 15, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Not using food sources as fuel?
What do you think everything ran on before the steam engine?
Count to 10 on February 15, 2010 at 1:29 PM
You mis-heard. What they said was that we need to switch to grass. For breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 1:29 PM
As provider of excess food to the world, however, this stunningly stupid exercise *has* resulted in a negative impact on the food supplies of other people/countries (eg: skyrocketing price of corn for other folks, etc).
Midas on February 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Hmmm… Looking it over VERY quickly…
They don’t take into account that the money is leaving the American economy, and thus is not avialable for Investment HERE. It becomes a compound interest type of problem…
I’m normally in favor of free trade… but OIL, with OPEC, is anything but Free Trade…
I say we drill here, drill now, and make pacts with Canada and Mexico to create a North American Energy Coalition… with any energy being imported into said coalition getting the heck taxed out of it. I think North America could be energy independent… and then we could tell the EU, and Japan, to do their own dirtywork to keep the “worlds” oil supply flowing.
Romeo13 on February 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM
lol
Midas on February 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Not only are we losing $2.36 trillion by not drilling offshore and in ANWR, we’re losing a lot more than that by not looking for SHALE OIL in the Rockies.
It’s harder to extract than offshore, and might take about 20 years to commercialize, but according to a Rand report from 2005, it could be developed for about $30 per barrel, and the estimated reserves are a MINIMUM of 500 billion barrels (maximum 1.1 trillion barrels), or more than 11 times what the above-referenced study quoted for offshore and ANWR.
Even the low-end estimate is 96 years’ worth of U.S. (2009) consumption, and developing this resource would allow the United States to CONTROL THE OIL MARKET well into the next century. We need to get started NOW!!!
As the Greenies would say, if you want a forest 20 years from now, plant trees NOW!
Steve Z on February 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Why biofuel?
Why not build a crap-load of nuclear power plants and start desalinating water? We take the water and saturate it with carbon dioxide and blue-green algae and expose to sunlight. Biopetroleum that is Carbon neutral…
Holger on February 15, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Yeah, and if you ever drove down I-70, through he Green River Basin, West of Grand Junction… its a whole lotta nothin out there…
Romeo13 on February 15, 2010 at 1:34 PM
At Sea? Which was the Major trade transportation system???
Uh… Wind?
Everything old, is new again… just misapplied.
Romeo13 on February 15, 2010 at 1:37 PM
After Chris Dodd decided not to run for re-election, the leading Democrat candidate for his seat is our illustrious Attorney General Blumenthal, who demonstrated his energy-industry genius (sarc!!!) by unilaterally blocking the construction of a huge LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) terminal in the Long Island Sound, which could have provided CT and Long Island with natural gas from Canada and Trinidad, but also from offshore if it was developed.
Opportunity cost, anyone?
Steve Z on February 15, 2010 at 1:38 PM
To me that’s part of what happened to our economy – when gas went above $1.25 I had to change jobs – 25 miles each way = buy gas or food or pay mortgage — I can see why people couldn’t pay for housing at $2.50 and more specifically when it was at $3.50 a Gal ( our Politicians should have been Rocket Scientist)
wheels on February 15, 2010 at 1:38 PM
The thing about shale oil is that it takes approx. 2 barrels of water to produce 1 barrel of oil, and in Colo. we have a saying; “We drink over whiskey and fight over water.”
thomasaur on February 15, 2010 at 1:39 PM
If you’re going to include our exports, that’s a whole ‘nother discussion, although I’ll be happy to join in. (and BTW, you have a good point)
I was speaking strictly about the US. All the food we’ve burned hasn’t resulted in any sort of famine…heck, we’re having a problem with some kinds of food being so cheap that people are making themselves fat! How many other nations can say they have a problem with too much food?
Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM
Let’s just wait til the drilling technology gets even better & then other countries can suck up our oil from outside international boundaries on the coastlines (if it isn’t being done already).
Meanwhile, the oil bust of the 80s is bcs of enviro regs-there is a LOT of oil in the internountain west & northern plains-WY & MT & ND to name a few states.
Oil companoes found it much more reasonable to go & drill in other countries rather than here.
Not to say that all enviro regs are bad, but there has to be some sanity-& I am sure a lot of it has to do with the ESA nuts activists.
To which I say, let’s take a look at the genetics of a lot of these so called endangered species that are holding up all development on private property as well as public lands.
This will undoubtably open up more land to resource exploration & such.
BTW-those of you that operate diesel equipment in sub-zero temps-have any of you ever noticed that even if you’re running on straight #1 fuel that your vehicles won’t stay running like they used to 10+ yrs ago? Now you have to add that special additive just to get the sucker to run.
Our tractors used to run fine on straight #1 & now they don’t (& I’m talking only temps of 0 to -10)!
What are they doing to the deisel mixes now?
Badger40 on February 15, 2010 at 1:42 PM
I remember reading an article about some plant, I think it was a hedge sort of plant that would burn violently. Why not start planting that and produce biofuel that way. If it burns violently naturally, it has to be a killer fuel when put through a biofuel process.
Holger on February 15, 2010 at 1:42 PM
The year that fuel went up over $3/gal, we spent over $24,000 on fuel in one year on our ranching operation.
I almost crapped a brick when I saw that while doing tax #s for the accountant.
No wonder we made a – income that year!
Badger40 on February 15, 2010 at 1:44 PM
That’s two trillion reasons to get behind a Sarah Palin candidacy that expressly advocates for a domestic energy policy that puts self sufficientcy over reliance upon hostile foreign nations that hold us hostage.
Drill here, drill now. Put wind turbines all around the new nuclear power plants. All of the above as long as the effort utilizes American materials and labor.
Think of the mulitplier effect of that.
turfmann on February 15, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Yeah, but that water is on the West of the divide… its all going to California anyway…
Let them desalinate their own water to water the lawns in Los Angeles…
Romeo13 on February 15, 2010 at 1:51 PM
That works.
Count to 10 on February 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Indeed, better stated. Thank you.
Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 1:54 PM
Cuda needs to be hammering on this day and night. And instead of focusing on the energy independence angle — which I know many believe is an impossibility anyway based merely on the way the global oil market operates — she needs to be talking jobs, jobs, jobs. I don’t know the numbers, of course, but I’m guessing there’s a lot of profit to be generated from domestic petroleum and gas production, and the GDP could use an extra shot in the arm right about now. Why shouldn’t we get to share in some of the same profits that other oil-producing countries are enjoying? Why should the Middle East, and Brazil, and those scumbags in Venezuela get all the spoils? There are tons more reasons besides energy independence to be drilling on our own soil and they’re all good ones. I hope we hear from Sarah on this soon.
NoLeftTurn on February 15, 2010 at 1:54 PM
We can’t be doing all that bad if that even registers as a problem.
Count to 10 on February 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM
Add to this the $billions/$trillions of wind and solar subsidies down the rathole:
American Thinker: Wind Energy’s Ghosts http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html
petefrt on February 15, 2010 at 1:56 PM
What if in the interim an alternative to oil is developed, meaning that waiting just represented a lost opportunity, since no one will want the oil once we decide to drill it?
Instead of the future market value of our oil reserves, we’ll get zero. Well, not zero, of course, since oil will still be used for something, but definitely not as much as we would have. There’s a risk in that strategy which seems to make it non-optimal.
Nevermind the fact that with the revenues from that oil, we can invest in alternative energy research designed to produce that oil substitute right at the time our oil runs out, which would allow us to take advantage of the current market AND get the lead in the future oil-substitute market. That seems like a much higher potential payoff strategy than simply waiting around for everyone else to run out of oil before we drill our own.
venividivici on February 15, 2010 at 1:57 PM
I am still trying to recover from diesel that went to $5.00/gal and fertilizer that more than quadrupled in price in the course of a couple of months.
And to think that it was all a manufactured crisis.
*shakes head in disgust*
turfmann on February 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM
I heard carbon based fuels drives up greenhouse gases and the fresh water smelt and red cockaded woodpecker are at risk.
/algore
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM
We can’t drill here because it would cause the Saudis to suffer a loss of oil revenue. Can’t have that.
ZenDraken on February 15, 2010 at 2:01 PM
The only non-us rigs near our coastlines are Mexican. Cuba has recently put out bids to start exploring for oil near the Keys. If the geologists are right, they won’t even have to side drill to drain the deposits on our side of the border. Once they start pumping, the oil on our side will just flow over to their side.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 2:03 PM
One issue not discussed is the effect drilling could have on the deficit. In addition to lease bonuses, typical royalties paid to the government for offshore and federal land production are 20-25% of the total value of the oil or gas, and that is a lot of green going into the federal coffers that doesn’t have to come out of my pocket.
iurockhead on February 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Valid point.
Many mistakes are made from making assumptions about the future.
Count to 10 on February 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Seconded. Even those who do water-cracking for a hobby (like myself) are under no delusions we’re going to invent the next generation of engines.
Unless you use solar-derived electricity to separate the H and the O, you’re in the position of “having to spend energy in order to get energy”, which anyone should be able to see is a net LOSS of energy!
Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Obvious to conservatives, this is a security issue. When our enemies hold our lifeline, we are quite at their mercy. Should we eliminate that paradigm, our enemies will recognize that we can afford to risk bombing them back to the Stone Age, and then they themselves would be the principal actors against terrorism.
Also wanted to slap down the notion that not touching our reserves saves them for us later… Some of them, sure. But the Cubans and the Chinese are drinking our milkshake in the Gulf of Mexico and that’s only going to expand with our
pathetic coward leaderZero at the helm.Maquis on February 15, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Had to laugh; what a great scene from that movie…
Midas on February 15, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Well, it’s a good thing we don’t need the money or anything.
I mean, we have about $30 worth of solar panels and wind mills now, isn’t that pretty much the same thing?
NoDonkey on February 15, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Waaay too low a number.
Open up shale and natural gas in the 48, too.
John the Libertarian on February 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM
Beautiful. Thanks, Ed.
J.E. Dyer on February 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM
We need to start producing stuff if our economy is going to survive. I don’t care what that stuff is as long as there is a real market for it. The SERVICE economy BS that academics have been pushing is not SUSTAINABLE in the long run.
We need all forms of industry back in the USA. We need new steel mills, new oil wells and refineries, new manufactering plants. What we need less of is pointy headed beureaucrats,(Perot reference) pointy headed elected officials, and Lawyers.
jpmn on February 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM
If we ever get fusion going, you might be able to get more energy out of two barrels of water.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM
In many ways, water is way too cheap. The reason it is cheap is because govt allocates it based on political wants, not economic needs. As a result, we have farmers being put out of business so that suburban homeowners can keep their lawns green.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM
You obviously have no idea how much of the economy is considered part of the service economy.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that Microsoft contributes more to the economy than does GM. Microsoft is solidly in the service economy.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Touche.
If we could scrap our obsession with technologies that cannot replace fossil fuels even at their best, I bet we’d be able to take fusion power beyond the level of the scientific Duke Nukem Forever.
Fusion > wind & solar. Period. End of story.
Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 3:07 PM
From a strategic standpoint, since oil is a finite resource,
unclesmrgol on February 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM
That is not true. Oil isn’t a finite resource.
I recommend reading Black Gold Stranglehold and The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels
Both books question the myth that oil is a non-renewable energy source and that the earth makes this energy naturally rather than it coming from the bones of dead animals and plants.
I’ll cite two recent examples of places that were thought not to have oil but recent discoveries show that there was oil there.
This article indicates that there may now be an accessible oil field in south central Utah and oil companies are looking for more places to drill.
Brazil didn’t have any oil until a recent discovery in 2005 showed that Brazil possessed a substantial amount of oil enough to put it as among the world’s largest exporter of oil.
The idea that oil is a finite resource is a lie. There is growing evidence that oil is actually a renewable resource and that the earth is constantly making oil.
That’s why oil companies spend big money on exploration because you never know when the next big find will be.
If you’re still not convinced that oil isn’t a renewable resource, I suggest reading these two articles here and here.
Conservative Samizdat on February 15, 2010 at 3:12 PM
Palin should grab this and run with it. Right is her wheelhouse
KBird on February 15, 2010 at 3:12 PM
And the enviro wackos are at war against wind farms in the Mojave.
It’s almost like the left is at war against the United States or something!
PattyJ on February 15, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Kind of off topic,but I wonder if anyone else has noticed that since Gorbot started screaming about AGW, we don’t hear much about the destuction of the rain forests?Could it be because Occidental Petroleum was the major culprit?
DDT on February 15, 2010 at 3:35 PM
The only problem with fusion is that it’s 20 years off, and has been for 60 years.
MarkTheGreat on February 15, 2010 at 3:36 PM
The way the dollar is being devalued, it will cost $2T to buy a car soon enough.
angryed on February 15, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Why? So some UAW or other unionized thug can make $45 an and contribute $3 of that to the Dem party…all the while making junk like GM that will eventually be bailed out and/or taken over by Obama?
What a great plan.
angryed on February 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM
This is right up the “Cuda’s ally!
She’s been saying drill here, drill now for some time. As well as “all of the above” on nuclear and natural gas.
I smell a Facebook post coming….
gary4205 on February 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM
Smart (lack of) power!
Obamanomics is what happens when ideology trumps reality.
profitsbeard on February 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Who gives Bush any credit for liberating Iraq? With the second largest reserves of oil on earth coming on-line for the first time in two decades, the supply of crude, hence the price of gas, is much lower than it would be with no action taken.
ntmaloney on February 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM
Perhaps the most promising future technology for producing clean energy is Helium-3 to be used in fusion reactors. Only one problem, Helium-3 is very rare on Earth. However it is quite common on the surface of the moon, due to billions of years of solar particles creating it there. Well, there is another problem. Obama decided to cut the space program so we will be unable to return to the moon any time soon. Not to worry, because Russia, China, and India are all planning to go to the moon to mine…He-3.
Meanwhile back on Earth, we haven’t build a nuclear power plant in the United States for over 30 years. Other than the power plants that the Navy builds for aircraft carriers and submarines. This means that for the most part, the engineering talent that built commercial plants all those years ago have retired. So it is a bit like starting over. One of the problems of commercial plants were that each and every one was custom designed from scratch. Where as the Navy just builds the same thing over and over for years. This is one of the reasons their stuff is so reliable, they developed a good design and continued to make small improvements in process. On a ship, if they need more power, they don’t make it bigger, they just add another unit. Like Chinese food, more people, more dishes.
Biofuel can help. But not in flex fuel vehicles. Any engine that runs on 87 octane fuel does not have enough compression to run on 85% ethanol and get very good mileage. Raise the engine’s compression ratio and it does about as good as gasoline, but then you can’t run 87 octane.
Drill for oil, do wind farms, solar collectors with molten salt in the west, ethanol, algae oil, coal, natural gas, water, and nukes. DO IT ALL and there will not be enough people left unemployed to flip burgers at Burger King.
Highplains on February 16, 2010 at 12:42 AM