Breaking: Bayh will retire; Update: Dems have four days until tomorrow to find candidate

posted at 10:50 am on February 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Bye bye, Evan Bayh:

Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh will not seek re-election this year, a decision that hands Republicans a prime pickup opportunity in the middle of the country.

“After all these years, my passion for service to my fellow citizens is undiminished, but my desire to do so by serving in Congress has waned,” Bayh will say.

Bayh will announce the decision at a press conference later today.

Indiana would not have likely sent Bayh back for a third term in any event.  The entry of Dan Coats into the race gave Republicans at least one strong, credible candidate (there are others either declared or interested) to challenge Bayh on his support for the Obama agenda.  Bayh had recently tried to rebuild his centrist credibility, but his vote to allow ObamaCare to come to a floor vote undermined his supposed independence.

The only hope Democrats had in holding the Indiana seat was in keeping Bayh in the race.  The state relies on coal energy anyway, and the upcoming cap-and-trade bill would have hammered a state already suffering more than most from the Great Recession.  It usually skews conservative, and most certainly would have done so in the midterms, even with Bayh remaining in the race.

The next question will be which red-state Senate Democrat follows Bayh into retirement.  I’d bet that Blanche Lincoln may be considering her options in Arkansas, especially after Bayh’s decision to leave.  (via Geoff A)

Update: Bayh has managed to put his fellow Democrats in a real bind by waiting until the last minute to make this decision:

Bayh’s decision will set Dems scrambling for a replacement. The deadline to file to reach the ballot is Friday, meaning any Dem considering running for the seat must make a decision quickly.

One option would be Rep. Baron Hill, who as Reid notes beat an incumbent Republican in 2006 (so did Reps. Joe Donnelly and Brad Ellsworth).  Unfortunately, two problems will arise with Hill, the first of which is that this isn’t 2006 and he’s in trouble to hold that seat.  The second is this video, in which Hill takes his first name a wee bit too seriously:

That will get played endlessly in Indiana no matter which race Hill chooses to contest.

Update II: Geoff points out that Bayh had considerably more reasons to stick around than some red-state Democrats:

The Scott Brown election to the Massactuetts Senate seat formerly held by Teddy Kennedy last month may have played a role in Bayh’s thinking. Considering the bankroll Bayh’s reelection campaign is carrying ($13 million) and his lead now in the polls, Bayh’s surprise announcement will surely be scrutinized by the political world for Bayh’s true rationale and the effects on politicians planning to remain in DC.

His “lead” was over state-level challengers, not necessarily Dan Coats, who hadn’t been in the mix long enough to get polled.  Bayh couldn’t get above 45% against anyone, a bad position for any incumbent.  The $13 million is a good point, though, and at least Bayh was competitive.  Looking at Lincoln’s numbers, or those of Harry Reid, in comparison put Bayh in a relatively stronger position in his race, at least until he quit.

Update III: National Journal has updated their story — the filing deadline is actually tomorrow:

Update: The filing deadline is tomorrow, not Friday, as we wrote earlier. Dem sources say Ellsworth is the candidate most likely to jump into the contest.

Update IV: Steve from No Runny Eggs points out that Democrats can nominate someone through the caucus process if no one signs up to run in time.  That’s true in most caucus states.  However, that process is almost certain to produce a liberal ideologue — the exact opposite of what Indiana Democrats need for the midterms.  They’d better hope they can get Ellsworth qualified in time.

Update V: How hard will it be to get a nominee on the ballot using the normal process? Justin Riemer, who worked for McCain in 2008 as Associate Counsel and is now with the RNLA, describes the degree of difficulty in an e-mail to me:

Ed,

I worked on getting McCain on the ballot in Indiana for the 2008 primary. I can tell you there it will be very very difficult to get this done in a few days. It took considerable resources for the campaign to get on the ballot there and we allocated a few months to do it. Even with having three full time staffers on it for several weeks, we barely made it. The signatures also need to be filed in each county’s election board of elections offices. Those are closed today. I don’t even know if they have the ability to get the hard copies of the petitions due to the holiday.

In other words, it will probably require Ellsworth (or anyone else) to use the caucus process.  Messy, messy, messy, as anyone who has worked in the caucus process can attest.

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In Bayh’s speach, he notes two recent instances that convinced him to leave the Senate

1. Reid killing the Jobs bill

2. The Senate vote killing the deficit commission

The Donkey’s had the votes to pass both measures. Thus, Bayh is saying he can’t stand Democratic leadership in the Senate.

I agree

DrW on February 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM

I figure an OBAMA VOTER telling me I am WRONG is a joke!
HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM

Yeah, that’s a good one!

BlameAmericaLast on February 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM

ted c on February 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM

For republicans and indies in full ‘revolt’ mode, quite true.

For democrats clinging to the fantasy that the ‘Rat Party isn’t the PPP [Progressive People's Party], and looking for a leader ‘away’ from the current chaos, not true [IMHO].

The ‘rat party, as it currently stands, is unraveling like a cheap sweater.

The battle for the ‘non-moonbat’ democrats has begun, IMO.

Maybe, just maybe, somebody just stole a march on Hillary.

CPT. Charles on February 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Yeah, that’s a good one!

BlameAmericaLast on February 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM

I don’t know if you guys want to brag about voting for John “As President, I will fire the Chairman of the SEC” McCain during the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM

my gosh, just heard his speech. He is not the brightest……really would he run for POTUS?

Bring it on.

ORconservative on February 15, 2010 at 2:37 PM

worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Riight….because kicking that can down the road is a great idea. Guess what? They didn’t get rid of the problem. The toxic assets are still there and it all goes “BOOM” this year as people attempt to refinance. Only we also threw an extra 1.5 trillion good money with it, to no ultimate effect.

BlameAmericaLast on February 15, 2010 at 2:39 PM

my gosh, just heard his speech. He is not the brightest……really would he run for POTUS?

Bring it on.

ORconservative on February 15, 2010 at 2:37 PM

He’s considered in the top 10% of the brightest among democrats……kinda like John Edwards.

Rovin on February 15, 2010 at 2:43 PM

Ed,
I worked on getting McCain on the ballot in Indiana for the 2008 primary. I can tell you there it will be very very difficult to get this done in a few days. It took considerable resources for the campaign to get on the ballot there and we allocated a few months to do it. Even with having three full time staffers on it for several weeks, we barely made it. The signatures also need to be filed in each county’s election board of elections offices. Those are closed today. I don’t even know if they have the ability to get the hard copies of the petitions due to the holiday.

.
This, to me, really stands out.
Could this be Bayh’s version of the “Friday News Drop”?

mrt721 on February 15, 2010 at 2:43 PM

BlameAmericaLast on February 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM
I don’t know if you guys want to brag about voting for John “As President, I will fire the Chairman of the SEC” McCain during the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM

You need to get to the doctor or that obama anal poisoning is going to kill you, rino. If you can read, I HATE john mccain and have made that VERY clear around here. BUT, I saw what obama was and I knew that he would make this economy WORSE……more spending in ONE year than ALL PRESIDENTS FROM W BACK TO WASHINGTON COMBINED?
Yeah, that’s right, you’re the ‘smart’ one.
Keep f*cking that chicken, rino. Keep f*cking……

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Take a good look @ IN conservative senate candidate Marlin Stutzman… he addresses all the important issues here:

http://www.gomarlin.com/issues.aspx

kabukiwatch on February 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM

1. Reid killing the Jobs bill

2. The Senate vote killing the deficit commission

The Donkey’s had the votes to pass both measures.

Well, it was republicans that really killed the deficit commission…

ninjapirate on February 15, 2010 at 2:48 PM

more spending in ONE year than ALL PRESIDENTS FROM W BACK TO WASHINGTON COMBINED?
Yeah, that’s right, you’re the ’smart’ one.
Keep f*cking that chicken, rino. Keep f*cking……

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Wrong again. So what’s your excuse?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:48 PM

Rumor: Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) to retire

J_Crater on February 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM
Wrong again. So what’s your excuse?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:48 PM

Really? Am I? Don’t think so…
The world according to Proud Rino~obama voter!

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Bayh’s Press Conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg9no4El2R4

Repurblican on February 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Rumor: Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) to retire

J_Crater on February 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Source?

Repurblican on February 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Well,instead of following Hopey over his
political precipice,er cliff,the real smart
Liberals,have opted to get into the Titanic
life boats,those that are left(thats a pun),
before they too,are succumbed to icy,bitter
cold reality of Obama’s,

Kiss of Political Death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Really? Am I? Don’t think so…

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Great, I’d love to see your data.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

If Obama ever has a blue dress moment, swab Proud RINO’s mouth for the comparison sample.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM

He’s a stain…

BlameAmericaLast on February 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM

If Obama ever has a blue dress moment, swab Proud RINO’s mouth for the comparison sample.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Whoa! A Monica Lewinsky joke! Timely!

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Great, I’d love to see your data.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Pround Rino:I thought RINO’s were “Moderates”,more or less
sitting on the fence,seeing which way the herd
goes,….then…..follows…

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Rumor: Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) to retire

J_Crater on February 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM
______________

To be fair, she announced her retirement in 1986. But she’s still there.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Whoa! A Monica Lewinsky joke! Timely!

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM
___________

Thank you.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM

“Moderates”,more or less
sitting on the fence,seeing which way the herd
goes,….then…..follows…

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM

People that sit on the fence and figure out what popular opinion is before making up their minds are not moderates. There’s another “m” that describes them more aptly.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Kiss of Political Death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

canopfor- Looks like hopey is becoming Poison Ivy to the Democrats. ( :

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Thank you.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Not too good at picking up sarcasm, are we?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Bayh,just said,”HE DOESN”T HAVE THE TASTE FOR IT”!!
=======================================================

On the top of the hour news,right after Rush’s show was over
on Talk AM radio!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Not too good at picking up sarcasm, are we?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM
___________

Ditto.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Have you ever sent stories that are less then flattering of Gov. Palin to Allah via Twitter on the laughable chance that he would have missed them?

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM

I sent the video to Allahpundit of Palin answering the birther question badly. That is not because I wanted to destroy her but because I thought it was newsworthy and revealing of her. That is all. Not to destroy her.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Really? Am I? Don’t think so…

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Great, I’d love to see your data.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Still waiting, Hornet. Let’s see your numbers.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Kiss of Political Death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM
canopfor- Looks like hopey is becoming Poison Ivy to the Democrats. ( :

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM

yoda: Killing the Democratic Party Part Deux,the
Bill Clinton,Re-do!!:)

And yes,Poison Ivory,for sure!!!

The Liberal Leper Affect!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Great, I’d love to see your data.
Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Hows this? Courtesy Michael Boskin at wsjonline.com

Mr. Boskin is a professor of economics at Stanford University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He chaired the Council of Economic Advisers under President George H.W. Bush.

Mr. Obama’s $3.6 trillion budget blueprint, by his own admission, redefines the role of government in our economy and society. The budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, adding more to the debt than all previous presidents — from George Washington to George W. Bush — combined.

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Thank you, king….I was busy making money.
You know, Making MONEY, Proud, not living off the gov’t dole?

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM

And yes,Poison Ivory,for sure!!!
canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM

canopfor, I say we have a Weasle Stomping Day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k76IGLi6jWI

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 3:13 PM

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM

That doesn’t substantiate the claim for a few reasons, all of which should be obvious to all of you that aren’t Hornetsting.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:13 PM

Let’s see some numbers.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:14 PM

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM
That doesn’t substantiate the claim for a few reasons, all of which should be obvious to all of you that aren’t Hornetsting.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:13 PM

You can’t read, can you Proud? Please, defend obama’s spending….
Let’s discover WHY YOU VOTED for obama….

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Source?
Repurblican on February 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Ace has it posted on his blog now…

joejm65 on February 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Watching Rino and HornetSting is like watching two old Jedi in a lightsaber duel; they’re both masters of deflection.

Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM

As a Indiana resident and conservative democrat who has voted for Bayh for gvnr and senator we have been ready to vote republican thi time since Bayh has followed the Obama agenda. We voted for Palin. Yes Palin not McCain. However we can not support Coats. he is a open borders country club republican like our Dick Lugar. Hostetler would be good,Pence would have been excellent. Our Congressman Ellsworth whom we have supported twice but won’t again because he to is following in lock step with Obama is now thought to be a candidate to run for senate. He has the same problems as Bayh by following the Obama.

PTN 39 on February 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Why didn’t he just change parties? He seems to have a lot of Conservative beliefs, but I don’t live in Indiana so I only know what I hear about him. I would rather have him than the two I have in NJ!

But we do have a great new Governor. Rush had me hysterical laughing on Friday about how much he loves Christie! I got to meet Christie at an event March 2009 and spend some time with him, and I have to agree with Rush on that one. My Uncle Rich worked at McGuire AFB and he frequently was at Ft. Dix, so I will always have a soft spot for Christie.

margategop517 on February 15, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Watching Rino and HornetSting is like watching two old Jedi in a lightsaber duel; they’re both masters of deflection.

Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM

And reading your posts is like going to the proctologist’s office.

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM

OT: Scott Brown rips Joe Biden over military tribunals.

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/capitol/sen_brown_military_biden_off_base_Qw7nuoMUX6NzObZ85OoSPN

joejm65 on February 15, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Let’s see some numbers.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:14 PM

Here are articles with lots of numbers for you.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/24/obama-shatters-spending-record-year-presidents/?utm_campaign=Feed%253A+txdubp+(txdubp+News+Items)

From examiner.com:

Simply put, Obama, just in 2009, has spent more money than all Presidents’ combined, from George Washington to George W Bush. Just in his first 6 months in office, he passed the huge 787 billion dollar stimulus plan, which didn’t create jobs, unlike what he promised. He spent 410 billion dollars on an omnibus bill. His budget amounted to a huge 3.5 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2010. And we don’t know yet how many trillions of dollars in damage would his healthcare plan add up to.

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Bayh is not dumb–he had to be well aware of the timing of this announcement. This is a kneecap to Obama & ilk.

I think it’s very likely he’s seriously considering running for President. This takes him out of having to support any more of Obama’s dreadful and destructive policies.

And terryann, as far as most of the country not knowing who Bayh is, his father, Birch Bayh, was a Senator for many years and ran for the Democratic presidential nomination himself-losing out to Jimmy Carter.

If fact, when I hear the name “Bayh” I tend to think “Birch” and have to correct myself, no it’s Evan. And I’m from the South and have never lived in Indiana.

INC on February 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM

C’mon HS, quit taking the bait. PR is delusional and is not worth depriving the rest of us from your valued interlocution. Ive been reading his piffle for quite some time and thoughts and ideas are not worth the mileage on one’s keyboard, really.

Let the chump stew in his own juices and join the rest of us as we disect the consequences and opportunities of Bayh’s throwing in the towel.

Archimedes on February 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM

I sent the video to Allahpundit of Palin answering the birther question badly.

I wanted to destroy her

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM

terryannonline:Intersesting,so your a Caring,
and Compassionate Concerned….

ah….Conservative…ah….Lib
ah…um…operative!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM

My point above being that Bayh is certainly a nationally known name–long before anyone knew the name of Clinton.

INC on February 15, 2010 at 3:31 PM

I wonder what torqued Bayh off so bad that he decided do this. Probably Obama’s charming personality combined with the Party’s embracing of the Far Left.

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:33 PM

canopfor, I say we have a Weasle Stomping Day!
————————————————–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k76IGLi6jWI

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 3:13 PM

yoda:Tee-hee,thats funny,hey,we could combine the
Simpsons “Snake Wacking Day” with Weasel Stompin
Day!!haha:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:36 PM

I wonder what torqued Bayh off so bad that he decided do this. Probably Obama’s charming personality combined with the Party’s embracing of the Far Left.
kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Maybe “moderate’ Bayh watched ‘moderate’ Joe Lieberman take a beating during this administration, saw the future, and said ‘screw it, I don’t need this.’

joejm65 on February 15, 2010 at 3:36 PM

ah….Conservative…ah….Lib
ah…um…operative!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Uh man you figured me out canopfor….
I’m a double agent.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 3:39 PM

I wonder what torqued Bayh off so bad that he decided do this. Probably Obama’s charming personality combined with the Party’s embracing of the Far Left.
kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:33 PM

I’m telling you, blood in the water…the sharks are starting to gather and soon, obama chum will be dumped from the boat.
I smell a 2012 run…obama is so wounded and his ‘base’ will be sitting at home, playing X-Box and smoking a fattie. The ‘spirit’ of obama smells like a stale fart in a car.

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM
Uh man you figured me out canopfor….
I’m a double agent.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Double agents have to be slick and saavy, OlympiaAnn. You are neither.
You’re just an Allah groupie and a hack.

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:43 PM

If there are really any moderate Democrats left in the Senate and House, they have become overrun by leftest nuts. I don’t particularly like Senator Bayh, but he has enough sense to get out of the mess that the President and his ilk have created. Hosta la vista, baby!!!

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Double agents have to be slick and saavy, OlympiaAnn. You are neither.
You’re just an Allah groupie and a hack.

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:43 PM

HornetSting:Well,at least she admits it!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM

If there are really any moderate Democrats left in the Senate and House, they have become overrun by leftest nuts. I don’t particularly like Senator Bayh, but he has enough sense to get out of the mess that the President and his ilk have created. Hosta la vista, baby!!!

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 3:45 PM

yoda: Good point,all the Liberals are bugging out,
leaving the Communists,Socialists,and
totalitarians!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM

Question: Why is it that you address the person you’re talking too? If you’re QUOTING them isn’t it obvious you’re talking to THEM? You quote HornetSting (or whomever)…and then type out their name. I don’t understand why you do this. Fan of repetition?

LiquidH2O on February 15, 2010 at 3:56 PM

all the Liberals are bugging out,
leaving the Communists,Socialists,and
totalitarians!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM

My mother is a very stong JFK Democrat…very conservative and she sees what’s going on with her old party and it isn’t the party that she first registered for. Oh, she voted for McCain and isn’t quite over the edge like her daughter. ( :

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 4:02 PM

So Bayh says Congress can’t get anything done. And I am thinking “And that’s a bad thing?”

The best Congress is the one that is on vacation.

Dasher on February 15, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Here’s hopin’ that “messy” caucus process results in the dems nominating a far left Obamabot kook socialist.

Rational Thought on February 15, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Wow! I am gobsmacked by this news. I figured that Bayh would be able to squeak out a close win even against Coats. His own internal polling must have told him otherwise.

Exit question: “does he get to keep the $13 million in his campaign fund?”

Big Mo is wearing a red jersey right now.

Old Fritz on February 15, 2010 at 4:13 PM

SHHHH…

Be Vewwy Vewwy Qwiet. HornetSting is hunting PwoudWinos….

It must be PwoudWino season.

Wolftech on February 15, 2010 at 4:28 PM

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM
———————————————-
Question: Why is it that you address the person you’re talking too? If you’re QUOTING them isn’t it obvious you’re talking to THEM? You quote HornetSting (or whomever)…and then type out their name. I don’t understand why you do this. Fan of repetition?

LiquidH2O on February 15, 2010 at 3:56 PM

LiquidH2O: Its a Canadian thing!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM

My mother is a very stong JFK Democrat…very conservative and she sees what’s going on with her old party and it isn’t the party that she first registered for. Oh, she voted for McCain and isn’t quite over the edge like her daughter. ( :

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 4:02 PM

yoda: The predictions are coming true,and yoda,wise you
are!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 4:32 PM

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Once again, awesome Hornet! Did you see my post about the Pants on The Ground guy wearing a cop-killer’s button on AI?

Also, to all, DeMint has a poll up and info on a more Conservative candidate for Indiana http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e2qecxx5g5pjozcu/a0251bg5ps3081/closing;jsessionid=EC323EFA6DE2AF9E2FAF6EB9363A0466.worker_respondent

margategop517 on February 15, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Messy, messy, messy, as anyone who has worked in the caucus process can attest.

Is this not the method Obama used to out maneuver Hillary? Is this not playing to Obama’s strength? Does this not almost guarantee that an Obama cultist will get the chance to run? How effective was Obama in Indiana the last election?

Skandia Recluse on February 15, 2010 at 4:47 PM

define “the good senators” from Virginia. …. Can’t say that this pair qualifies.

ted c on February 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM

I was being sarcastic.

nyx on February 15, 2010 at 4:55 PM

LiquidH2O: Its a Canadian thing!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM

I see, I see. Btw, thank God you didn’t take my comment offensively. As soon as I hit ‘submit’ I thought, Oh man, this person is going to think I’m being a freaking biotch and they’re going to cuss me out one. :p Good thing you’re not so sensitive. ;)

LiquidH2O on February 15, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Indiana voters please pay attention

You can download a placement for a left wing fringe candidate to get on the ballot and then dems would be stuck with her and not be able to hand pick their candidate. She has until Friday to get the petitions. 500 needed in each district and she is 1,000 short overall and needs more to be safe.

http://www.bloomgingtononline.net/directory/docs/413.pdf

State dems in indiana and bayh purposefully waited so long to keep pence off the ballot and stop another dem to get on the ballot and allow them to handpick their candidate.

Lets mess up their plan and have this fringe candidate who wants to run on sexism as their candidate.

ryandan on February 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM

The US Public Debt was $0 in 1835.

Any counting of debt goes back to the last President to pay it off… President Andrew Jackson. And I don’t think that the modern Democratic Party can consider itself all too well for not following that good course. We paid off the Debt of the Revolutionary War… the Civil War took awhile longer, and by the time it was we were used to being spendthrifts. Neither party has kept to any form of fiscal conservatism, not to speak of good, old fashioned prudently watching every penny.

Bayh may not like the atmosphere, but he was one of the ones adding to the smoke… and it is poetic justice that he leaves his party in a lurch so that a caucus path is nearly inevitable, and results in someone far less electable. It is time for the empty suits to create empty seats.

ajacksonian on February 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Politico story of how dem fringe nominee could qualify and dems would be stuck with her in Indiana.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32990.html

ryandan on February 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM

There is a reason behind all this. It may be he can’t stand the stink on the Dem side. Or it could be that he knows something we don’t, like our debt will crush us and all those state jobs, retirement deals (sadly including mine) and SS are going down. He’s just getting off before the water tops the gunwales.

archer52 on February 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM

I was being sarcastic.

nyx on February 15, 2010 at 4:55 PM

gotcha.thx.

ted c on February 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Tamyra D’Ippolitio is the dem fringe candidate trying to qualify in indiana.

ryandan on February 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Maybe it’s time for the centrist democrats to form a new 3rd party.

That would make a lot more sense than all the conservative talk about a “tea party” party. The GOP can be pulled to the right, the democrat party is still racing breathlessly to the left.

Rebar on February 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Update: Bayh has managed to put his fellow Democrats in a real bind by waiting until the last minute to make this decision:

I love it. Intentional or not (and I think it was) Bayh has managed to give this administration the political middle finger by waiting until now to decide that he isn’t running. If Senator Bayh really is upset with the level of partisanship he has nobody but his own corrupt party to blame for it. Harry Reid shutting the dissenting voices out of the healthcare and jobs legislation is a glaring example of the Dems inability to work in a truly bipartisan manner. And for the slow kids like AnninCA, that means bipartisan discussions that don’t start and stop with demanding everybody agree with them.

highhopes on February 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM

He’s just getting off before the water tops the gunwales.

archer52 on February 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM

A rat deserting a sinking ship. IMO this is all about positioning himself for a Presidential challenge to the filthy lying coward in the White House in 2012. It is a good political strategy to decry partisanship in 2010 and then run as the real post-partisan Democrat.

highhopes on February 15, 2010 at 5:34 PM

I get the impression that Bayh just couldn’t find the Hope & Change in the mist of all the Hype & Spin. It’s really strange that he left the Democrats such short notice. Interesting.

TN Mom on February 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM

LiquidH2O: Its a Canadian thing!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM
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I see, I see. Btw, thank God you didn’t take my comment offensively. As soon as I hit ’submit’ I thought, Oh man, this person is going to think I’m being a freaking biotch and they’re going to cuss me out one. :p Good thing you’re not so sensitive. ;)

LiquidH2O on February 15, 2010 at 4:55 PM

LiquidH2O:Its all good,from your polite nieghbour up
North!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM

LiquidH2O: Its a Canadian thing!!:)

canopfor on February 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Yah, dat be it, fur sur. Eh!

Yoop on February 15, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Fan of repetition?

LiquidH2O on February 15, 2010 at 3:56 PM

LiquidH2O…I actually like canofor using my name, because he is talking to me and I am sure the other posters will agree…we likey. ( :

yoda on February 15, 2010 at 6:44 PM

Youth is no excuse for blatant stupidity.

HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 1:47 PM
So, then, what is your excuse?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Oh no–you didn’t just call Hornet stupid

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Not to destroy her.

terryannonline on February 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Then I wished I had bookmarked your comment where you said that “I want to like her I really do”. Look, Kiddo, I truly understand any misgivings you might have about Gov. Palin possibly being the nominee in 2012. I have them myself. I am going to giver her every opportunity to prove herself and not feel compelled to bad mouth her since she hasn’t even said she is interested in running.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2010 at 7:04 PM

I don’t know if you guys want to brag about voting for John “As President, I will fire the Chairman of the SEC” McCain during the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Yeah, about that “Chairman”–thing–really has worked out well for the economy–hasn’t it…

And yes–I’m proud that I voted for the old white guy…

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Thank you.

uknowmorethanme on February 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Not too good at picking up sarcasm, are we?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Whoosh–right over your head, Proud….

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/24/obama-shatters-spending-record-year-presidents/?utm_campaign=Feed%253A+txdubp+(txdubp+News+Items)

No, not just *any* numbers, you need numbers to substantiate the claim that Obama has spent more in his first year than every single other President combined. Your numbers contradict that claim.

From examiner.com:

Simply put, Obama, just in 2009, has spent more money than all Presidents’ combined, from George Washington to George W Bush. Just in his first 6 months in office, he passed the huge 787 billion dollar stimulus plan, which didn’t create jobs, unlike what he promised. He spent 410 billion dollars on an omnibus bill. His budget amounted to a huge 3.5 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2010. And we don’t know yet how many trillions of dollars in damage would his healthcare plan add up to.

kingsjester on February 15, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Great. Let’s see some numbers that verify that. Let’s see the amounts that every single president has spent, add them all up, adjust them for inflation so we’re all on the same level, and then let’s see who’s right.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Let the chump stew in his own juices and join the rest of us as we disect the consequences and opportunities of Bayh’s throwing in the towel.

Archimedes on February 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM

I know, good call, you certainly wouldn’t want anyone disagreeing with you around here, especially when you say ridiculous and incorrect things. Don’t take the bait by trying to substantiate your claims, Hornetsting. Did you know that Obama, in his first year alone, has murdered 20x as many hobos as THE REST OF OUR PRESIDENTS COMBINED!?!? Who cares if it’s true, Hornet, right? It *feels* true, and isn’t *feeling* like something is true better than actually learning stuff?

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 7:21 PM

I love it. Intentional or not (and I think it was) Bayh has managed to give this administration the political middle finger by waiting until now to decide that he isn’t running.

highhopes on February 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM

I think it’s pretty obvious that it was intentional. The question is why. I think he’s mad he didn’t get a cabinet position or the VP job, but it turns out that Daddy’s good name will only get you a Senator’s seat in Indiana.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Great. Let’s see some numbers that verify that. Let’s see the amounts that every single president has spent, add them all up, adjust them for inflation so we’re all on the same level, and then let’s see who’s right.

Proud Rino on February 15, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Nope–the ball’s in your court now…YOUR turn to refute the statements…

But then that isn’t what you do–you just talk around the evidence…providing none of your won…

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Shoot, meant to say “none of your own

lovingmyUSA on February 15, 2010 at 7:30 PM

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