Bombshell: CIA, Pakistani intel capture Taliban’s number two; Update: Newsweek profile added
posted at 9:49 pm on February 15, 2010 by Allahpundit
A coup not only on its own terms — this guy supposedly ran the Quetta Shura, the Taliban’s leadership council, so it’s a major intelligence windfall — but in what it portends about Pakistan’s posture towards the Taliban.
His capture could cripple the Taliban’s military operations, at least in the short term, said Bruce O. Riedel, a C.I.A. veteran who last spring led the Obama administration’s Afghanistan and Pakistan policy review.
Details of the raid remain murky, but officials said that it had been carried out by Pakistan’s military spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, and that C.I.A. operatives had accompanied the Pakistanis…
The participation of Pakistan’s spy service could suggest a new level of cooperation from Pakistan’s leaders, who have been ambivalent about American efforts to crush the Taliban. Increasingly, the Americans say, senior leaders in Pakistan, including the chief of its army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, have gradually come around to the view that they can no longer support the Taliban in Afghanistan — as they have quietly done for years — without endangering themselves. Indeed, American officials have speculated that Pakistani security officials could have picked up Mullah Baradar long ago…
Mr. Riedel, the former C.I.A. official, said that he had not heard about Mullah Baradar’s capture before being contacted by The Times, but that the raid constituted a “sea change in Pakistani behavior.”
In recent weeks, American officials have said they have seen indications that the Pakistani military and spy services may finally have begun to distance themselves from the Taliban. One Obama administration official said Monday that the White House had “no reason to think that anybody was double-dealing at all” in aiding in the capture of Mullah Baradar.
The Times claims it knew about this since Thursday but sat on the info at the feds’ request lest it tip off Taliban commanders in the field that they’d been compromised. I’ve always assumed that ISI can find these people within a few days if it really wanted to, so if the “sea change” is for real, expect plenty of other big Taliban captures in the weeks ahead, possibly including Mullah Omar himself (who’s also reputed to be in Karachi). What I don’t understand is what’s changed. Yeah, the U.S. military offensive in Marja is going well so far, but it isn’t the kind of juggernaut that would turn Pakistan’s leadership on its head. Did Obama buy them off somehow? Or did his build-up in Afghanistan convince them that the U.S. would have a presence there long enough that it wasn’t worth supporting the Taliban’s hopes to return to power?
In light of the base bombing just before New Year’s, this must be especially gratifying for the CIA. Hats off.
Update: Big, big, big fish. Consider the significance of this guy, then consider how far the ISI must be able to reach — when it wants to — to penetrate the Taliban and nab someone like him.
In more than two dozen interviews for this profile, past and present members of the Afghan insurgency portrayed Baradar as no mere stand-in for the reclusive Omar. They say Baradar appoints and fires the Taliban’s commanders and governors; presides over its top military council and central ruling Shura in Quetta, the city in southwestern Pakistan where most of the group’s senior leaders are based; and issues the group’s most important policy statements in his own name. It is key that he controls the Taliban’s treasury—hundreds of millions of dollars in -narcotics protection money, ransom payments, highway tolls, and “charitable donations,” largely from the Gulf. “He commands all military, political, religious, and financial power,” says Mullah Shah Wali Akhund, a guerrilla subcommander from Helmand province who met Baradar this March in Quetta for the fourth time. “Baradar has the makings of a brilliant commander,” says Prof. Thomas Johnson, a longtime expert on Afghanistan and an adviser to Coalition forces. “He’s able, charismatic, and knows the land and the people so much better than we can hope to do. He could prove a formidable foe.”…
Baradar can take much of the credit for rebuilding the Taliban into an effective fighting force. For at least the past three years, Mullah Omar has had little or no say in the group’s daily affairs. His most recent public pronouncement came last December, when two statements were issued in his name denying “baseless” reports of peace talks with the Afghan government and repeating his demand for the withdrawal of all U.S. and NATO troops from Afghanistan. Some Taliban members speculate that Omar might be dead, although Baradar, his lifelong friend and comrade in arms, denies any such thing. “He is hale and healthy, and not only taking part in but currently leading the jihad,” he told NEWSWEEK. U.S. intelligence experts can’t testify to Omar’s health, but they believe he is alive. “Mullah Omar has put Baradar in charge,” says Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, the former Taliban regime’s foreign minister, who first met both men in 1992, during the last days of the Soviet-backed regime. “It is Mullah Omar’s idea and his policy to stay quiet in a safe place, because he has a high price on his head, while Baradar leads.”









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Alhamdilillah!
blatantblue on February 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Don’t forget to read him his rights.
BadgerHawk on February 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Are we really sure? We’ve been told of taliban leader deaths before only to be corrected later.
SouthernGent on February 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM
I thought we were going to make nice with the Talis… guess not…
MeatHeadinCA on February 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM
Go get ‘em guys and gals. Whip it on!
Hog Wild on February 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM
Get him a lawyer stat.
chief on February 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM
your assumptions might be rooted in reality.
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Now get him a lawyer and tell him not to say anything about anything!
DAMN TORTUREMONGERING WINGNUTS!
Good Lt on February 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM
I notice we didn’t read him his rights and provide him an attorney before interrogating him. What happened, Democrats?
amerpundit on February 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Allah Akbar
Defector01 on February 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Read him his rights!
El_Terrible on February 15, 2010 at 9:54 PM
is he one of those “moderate Taliban”?
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 9:54 PM
Is this the guy with the ‘unicorn’ bump?
Good show!
HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM
We need to hurry up and mirandize him then set him up with an upscale apartment as he waits for his long, drawn out circus trial that will be televised live so that he can continue to direct operations through code and spread his ideology.
erakis on February 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM
I’ll hold my breath and pray it’s true.
I question the timing…………
Knucklehead on February 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Great news.
TexasDan on February 15, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Well, this makes it clear that the CIA and Pakistan has been consulting extensively with Obama, and Afghanistan/Pakistan might well be the Obama Administration’s greatest achievement.
Skandia Recluse on February 15, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Eric Holder’s firm approves.
txag92 on February 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Don’t forget to read him his rights.
BadgerHawk on February 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Lord Help Us………
That was my first thought upon seeing the headline.
RealMc on February 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM
This could be fallout from the capture of that messenger and his cell phone a few days ago.
pedestrian on February 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM
Don’t forget the first class ticket on Virgin Air to the US….
HornetSting on February 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM
Uh oh…
He has a fat lip.
Let him go, pay him a Billion dollars to play nice, and immediately place under arrest all of those Americans involved!
Seven Percent Solution on February 15, 2010 at 10:00 PM
Masha’allah
nyx on February 15, 2010 at 10:00 PM
Torture him until you have what you want, and then shoot him.
Jaibones on February 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Tolley-Bahn in Pock-istan.
carbon_footprint on February 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Dick Cheney lit a fire under Obama’s a$$, so who knows how much TARP money just flew to catch this guy to make Obama look good.
Punditpawn on February 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM
How many Taliban Number Twos are there? Just asking.
nyx on February 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM
I thought we were just killing guys like this
Daveyardbird on February 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Very good. Interrogate away and find the Blind Mullah.
The CIA guys have to feel good right now that instead of losing ground after the bombing that they have gained ground. Hats off to them.
Anyone know how old this guy is? health? Didn’t we find out with the CIA base bombing that AQ and the Taliban were willing to give up a few leaders in order to get someone close to our CIA officials? Keep watch.
journeyintothewhirlwind on February 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM
This is great news.
crr6 on February 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM
I think number three just got slid up a notch. They have to go get him again.
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM
He was captured several days ago, and NY Times sat on the story after Obowma put in the request…
Thank goodness they are following the same policies they showed President George W. Bush!
Oh, wait!
Seven Percent Solution on February 15, 2010 at 10:03 PM
I’ll give the POTUS right and proper props on this. Bagging bad guys is the right way to go. Stay after it.
+2
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Rendition
Waterboarding
Electrodes
Cattle Prods
….bring ‘em on.
pseudonominus on February 15, 2010 at 10:04 PM
you forgot comfy chairs, don’t forget comfy chairs…Or Bermuda vacations…
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM
plywood and some high quality H2O……
RealMc on February 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Let the Paki’s interrogate this guy. Please. Get it started and get it over with.
joejm65 on February 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM
I think the Who covered this Sunday with the “meet the new boss” mantra. The Present of the USA wants to pee on all four corners of sheriff Joe’s claim to victory….
KZnextzone on February 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Let the Paks keep him. We’d read him his rights and give him a lawyer. They’ll cut his fingers off. He’ll talk and will say the truth. Unlike what the MSM or John McCain thinks. They ISI is not operating in a vacuum here. Heck, they KNOW about everybody playing on the board, so if the guy lies, they’ll know it.
archer52 on February 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM
No protection for him, not even under the Geneva Convention.
Bed, made, lie, suffer.
Dark-Star on February 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Hmmmmm.
I wonder if bombing the ISI [and other Paki HQ buildings], and threatening their nukes had anything to do with their ‘change of heart’.
Be that as it may, it’s welcome news.
Now then, let’s see what the ‘follow up’ comes to pass.
Then I’ll consider cheering loudly.
CPT. Charles on February 15, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Great news if it holds up.
Weight of Glory on February 15, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Lefty bumper stickers around town read
End
ThisLess War.I betcha it hurts to keep that one on there… right next to the OB/Biden circle.
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Well, the Taliban repeatedly bombing ISI facilities (the pro-Taliban Pakistani military intelligence) was likely to backfire sooner or later…
Realist on February 15, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Awesome.
illustro on February 15, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Glad to see that we can agree on something, crr6.
Of course, if it turns out you were only talking about how this is going to help the President’s appearance to the masses… ;)
Scott H on February 15, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Hell yes.
Emily M. on February 15, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Unfortunately it’s the CIA agents that will need to lawyer up for this capture!
katy on February 15, 2010 at 10:10 PM
So when does he get Mirandaized?
Enoxo on February 15, 2010 at 10:10 PM
How many ‘sea changes” has this been now by Pakistan?
The CIA bomber was RUN by ISI. No way a long-term, sophisticated double-agent operation was run by the Taliban. No way.
You don’t say? Perhaps they needed to be provided with proof of their complicity in the CIA bombing and then threatened with total cut-off of US aid money???
Yeah, that sounds more plausible than Pakistan suddenly “seeing the light” when they’ve been battling an insurgency for years now.
David2.0 on February 15, 2010 at 10:12 PM
Friday, November 13, 2009
Taliban Bomb ISI HQ in Peshawar
In Peshawar, insurgents set off a huge bomb near the regional HQ of Inter-Services Intelligence. Early reports say that the death toll was above 15, and that dozens were wounded.
——
Why Taliban Attacked ISI at Lahore? — International Terrorism Monitor — Paper No.530
By B. Raman
A question from a journalist working for an American newspaper asks: “Why has the Taliban attacked the ISI? Isn’t that like biting the hand that feeds?”
2. This question was in pursuance of the commando-style attack at Lahore on May 27, 2009, which targeted the Lahore Police and the local office of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), killing 15 police officers, one Lt. Col. of the ISI and 10 other persons.
Realist on February 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM
Bad intel. They thought he was James O’Keefe. Don’t worry, I’m sure Obama has apologized already.
malclave on February 15, 2010 at 10:15 PM
Wait, you mean we didn’t just blow him up? Someone decided there might be value in say, capturing and interrogating him?
Do tell.
Midas on February 15, 2010 at 10:16 PM
I hope 0bama’s promise to not waterboard folks like this, expired yesterday.
All the rest of his promises have expiration dates, this one would actually help us.
Rebar on February 15, 2010 at 10:16 PM
O/T
remember this blast from the past?
well beck doesnt look like such an ass anymore.
i can only imagine how many of the lower ranks told this reporter how much danger this ROE puts them in. of course the senior officers have to grin and bear. why should anyone enlist when obama doesnt value their service or their life? and the afghani general saying
well killing the g-ddam militants is the best and easiest way to accomplish that you friggin’ moron!
but im sure obambi has no trouble sleeping at night.
chasdal on February 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM
Get his info and feed him to the pigs.
faol on February 15, 2010 at 10:18 PM
I’m sure that the ISI will treat him with kindness and consideration, i.e. he will be singing like a bird within a day.
Old Fritz on February 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM
What has changed indeed… I’m thinking the Corn husker kickback and the LA purchase were taken global.
These morons have been supporting the Taalee-bahn for years and now all of a sudden, boom! we get the number 2? Something that says ‘the chicago way’ is up here.
I don’t buy the Afgan build up did it, either. Because the build up is temporary. When we head out the door, the Taali-baaan will do some score settling.
The more I think of this, the more it looks like a buy out.
Whatever the reason, this is great news. Could Omar be next? Too good to hope for.
B Man on February 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM
If the deal is a trade of Mullah Baradar’s head for an accelerated US pullout, then it’s a sea change of a different kind altogether… “Peace with Honor” anyone?
Kenosha Kid on February 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM
1. I’m happy but aren’t nutroots gonna be annoyed with the CIA in Pakistan? [hahahaha]
2. Has Holder’s former firm gotten a new, choice client or what?!
Branch Rickey on February 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM
How come it wasn’t when Bush was President?
David2.0 on February 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM
You have the right to remain silent.
You have the right to prayer rugs.
You have the right to hot tea.
Etc., etc.
RedNewEnglander on February 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM
Folks at aoshq have been talking about pudding “dipping.” I suggest we find some other sauce for dipping for this guy. Have you ever used Capsatin arthritis cream and gotten a bit where it shouldn’t go? Let’s dip this guys u no whats in that and see how fast he talks. Best of all it won’t leave a mark. Just a temporary red rash.
TimothyJ on February 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM
Great news as long as Obama gets no political benefit whatsoever. That is the Bush precedent, liberals./
Brian1972 on February 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM
A friend of mine had this car in his parking lot back in 2003 with a “Bomb Iraq? No!” sticker on it. Apparently the guy who owned it was hardcore anti-military as well.
One night my friend modified the sticker to say “Bomb Iraq? Now!”, and the guy ended up driving around for several months before realizing it.
BadgerHawk on February 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Praise God.
David Mickelson on February 15, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Uhm if Obama captures Bin Laden, the 2010 elections completely turn around. By the way, great quick analysis as always AP!
milemarker2020 on February 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM
hehe! clandestine ops.. works for laughs!
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM
Where’s The Dean to tell us that we’re just making more terrorists by doing this?
Good Solid B-Plus on February 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM
HM.
Reminds me of when Zarqawi bombed an Egyptian wedding, oh, I’d say maybe 6 months was it, before he was killed?
Looks like this is part 2 along those lines. The Taliban bombing and killing ISI…you can’t fix stoooopid.
B Man on February 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM
I’ll tell you, this is a winner for the POTUS. If he puts UBL’s head on a pike, game over folks, 2012 is locked up for him.
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Congratulations for the Catch!
Now don’t screw this up.
portlandon on February 15, 2010 at 10:25 PM
They held him for fifty minutes and then handed him over to the ACLU-wing of the federal government. (The Obama administration)
Claypigeon on February 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM
All “true conservatives” know Obama is a secret Muslims who wants terrorists to succeed!
rightistliberal on February 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM
The ISI has stuck a finger into the wind. Maybe they see more robust American ground involvement in Packi…..
jtpcamp on February 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM
6 PM
Yeah, you supersmart ass. You think CIA acts without authority of the president?
You haters will never be happy if we catch those guys. You would rather have Americans die here so you can prove: Hey, Obama was in bed with with terrorists. He a secret Muslim!
rightistliberal on February 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM
Or feed him pigs :)
FontanaConservative on February 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM
Sometimes…sometimes I’m REALLY glad I don’t live in a big city.
Bishop on February 15, 2010 at 10:30 PM
I don’t think we get a QOTD tonight.
ted c on February 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Who knows what the future holds for all of this, but I would say that with this news, IF and that’s a gigantic if, UBL is still in Pakistan (money says he’s in Iran) he’s going to be catching the nearest donkey and taking a ride and getting outta Dodge, real quick.
B Man on February 15, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Oh, so now the Taliban have “commando raid” capabilities!
Boy, those Taliban have come a long way from being the goat-herding, cave-dwelling illiterates they have always been!
AMAZING!
David2.0 on February 15, 2010 at 10:32 PM
I hope this is the real thing and congratulations to our brave men and women fighting this scourge on our planet.
I am also glad to see that The Times waited to report the capture of this man when requested to do so. Makes me wonder if they would have accorded the Bush Team’s request to do the same.
devolvingtowardsidiocracy on February 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM
Yes it is.
God Bless the USA!
Saltysam on February 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM
I suspect it was more in line with listen you gutless MFs we took a hit we shouldn’t have and your pantie waist game playing made it happen.
Man up or move out.
CommentGuy on February 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM
Actually, the CIA acts in spite of the politicians in Washington.
The smartest thing Obama has done since lying his way to the Presidency is to leave the war on terror to the experts. He has also kept in place virtually every single George W. Bush directive and strategy.
Where is your gratitude towards George W. Bush and his policies that have kept you safe for the past 9 years?
Forget Obama. He can only COPY success. He can’t create it on his own.
David2.0 on February 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM
If the ISI has been brought over to our side, BINGO. Even if it’s just temporary.
How the worm can turn…
B Man on February 15, 2010 at 10:38 PM
So when this Tali # 2 was captured
was he alone or with a Code Pink troll ?
After the #2 was captured, did he demand his one phone call
and call Obama on his ‘special’ number ?
macncheez on February 15, 2010 at 10:38 PM
O.k. boys, now I`m thinking of someone else you can nab. Sounds like Osama Bin Laden, if you`re able to decode my message.
ThePrez on February 15, 2010 at 10:38 PM
I hear that Obamy is so desperate that he is actually happy that we got this guy.
Times change, huh.
notagool on February 15, 2010 at 10:38 PM
meanwhile Obambi hides behind Israeli skirts from the real danger. One of the few times I’m in lockstep with Faisal.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_clinton_saudi_arabia_4
Reality Check on February 15, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Poppies did I hear someone say poppies?
Poppies = China White
Poppies = Mexican Mud
F’n Poppies how long will we ignore the heroin culture
sonnyspats1 on February 15, 2010 at 10:41 PM
TERRIFIC!!! Now waterboard……..oh, forget it.
shar61 on February 15, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Watching these frauds tie themselves into a pretzel with their hypocrisy would be funny if it wasn’t so f&*^’n dangerous.
Saltysam on February 15, 2010 at 10:42 PM
I hope they are treating this guy kindly. I’m assuming he’s been mirandized and he’s lawyered up. I couldn’t sleep tonight if I knew that he was being forced to listen to loud music ‘n stuff. /s
Mojave Mark on February 15, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Have they read him the Miranda rights, yet?
Schadenfreude on February 15, 2010 at 10:45 PM
Wow
JaneHank Fonda really looks old and wrinklysonnyspats1 on February 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM
I do too. I want the “world” to love us.
Saltysam on February 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Do you suppose dear leader has made a deal to block the sale of advanced military technology (like the F-18 Super Hornet) to India? Just wondering…
ZenDraken on February 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Ear plugs & alligator clips $1.23. Field telephone from surplus store, $21. Standing by while Pakis question Taliban’s #2, Priceless.
SDSquint on February 15, 2010 at 10:51 PM
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