Comments on: Former CRU chief admits warming may not be unprecedented

By: Saving Creation From Itself « The Reformed Pastor

Saving Creation From Itself « The Reformed Pastor — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:37:50 +0000

[...] switch, it is up to us to “protect creation from climate change.” Uh, huh. I have just one thing to say to [...]

By: Hyscience

Hyscience — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:12:08 +0000

The ‘Inconvenient Truth’ About the Media’s Coverage of Global Warming…

Matthew Continetti suggests that Al Gore’s “Inconvenient Truth” may just go down as one of the most ironically titled films in the history of American cinema, and for good reason since the so-called “consensus” that human activity is primarily res…

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Did the IPCC fudge the hurricane data, too?

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Did the IPCC fudge the hurricane data, too? — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:31:51 +0000

[...] is an interesting development, especially after Dr. Phil Jones admitted that the medieval warming period (MWP) may have been global after all. Earlier, AGW advocates had [...]

By: ClimateGate™ Update: Jones 180° – No Global Warming Since 1995 » 73 Wire - A new breed of collaborative news

Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:36:38 +0000

[...] Former CRU chief admits warming may not be unprecedented In a rather stunning series of admissions, the suspended chief of the East Anglia CRU now admits that the warming seen in the late 20th century may not be unprecedented after all, that the planet has stopped warming for the last 15 years despite the predictions of AGW advocates, and that his own record-keeping has been poor. Phil Jones, who stepped down at least temporarily from his position at the CRU when its e-mails exposed a series of embarrassing attempts by climate scientists to undermine careers of skeptics and to hide contradictory data, now says that the entire basis of the “hockey stick” graph could have been invalid: [...]

By: Ace of Spades HQ

Ace of Spades HQ — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:36:52 +0000

CRU’s Former Head Phil Jones: Well, I Guess Maybe There Hasn’t Been Any Warming Since 1995, And Oh Yeah, Maybe The Medieval Warm Period and Subsequent Periods Were Warmer Than Things Are Now …

What precisely is left of this “theory”? [Question:] Do you agree that according to the global temperature record used by the IPCC, the rates of global warming from 1860-1880, 1910-1940 and 1975-1998 were identical? [Phil Jones:]… Temperature data …

By: profitsbeard

profitsbeard — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:46:21 +0000

We must throw Al Gore into a volcano to placate Gaia, just to be sure.

By: The Anchoress | A First Things Blog

The Anchoress | A First Things Blog — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:58:49 +0000

[...] Ah, more crumbling…and more. [...]

By: Climate of Hoax

Climate of Hoax — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:27:28 +0000

[...] Former CRU chief admits warming may not be unprecedented [...]

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:06:01 +0000

Didn’t one of the e-mails quote Jones as advising his team to destroy the data, rather than surrender it to any of the deniers?

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:03:24 +0000

But when the people telling me millions will die if I don’t change my light bulb live in giant mansions and fly around on private jets …. um… no.

Dark Eden on February 14, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Just one of Al Gore’s swimming pools, from one of his several mansions, uses more energy than the average American home. And American homes on average, use more energy than homes anywhere else in the world.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:00:34 +0000

Why is there no data from the Southern Hemisphere? Because

Sekhmet on February 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM

1) There is data from the SH, just not as much.
2) Most of the temperatures records from this time period are in the form of geological records. Things like measuring isotopic ratios in mineral formations.
3) There is something like 3 or 4 times as much land surface north of the equator, as south.

The equator goes through the thickest part of S. America. All of N. America is north of it.
The equator goes through the bottom of the thickest part of Africa. All of Europe and Asia are north of the equator.

What land masses are in the southern hemisphere.
Less than half of S. America.
About half of Africa.
Australia.
Antarctica.
A number of southeast Asian islands.

That’s about it.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:54:01 +0000

globe was on average 75 C warmer

Holger on February 14, 2010 at 12:10 PM

I’m hoping you meant 7.5C. 75C would be deucedly unconfortable.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:51:52 +0000

Looks like the warmers have a weaker case to stand upon than do birfers.

ted c on February 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM

If twice nothing is still nothing, then what is half of nothing?

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:50:06 +0000

‘For it to be global in extent, the MWP would need to be seen clearly in more records from the tropical regions and the Southern hemisphere. There are very few palaeoclimatic records for these latter two regions.

Translation.
I admit that there are southern hemispheric records that show the existance of the MWP, but I’m going to declare that there aren’t enough, and hope that this will give me a few more years to push this scam.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:43:27 +0000

There’s a reason why, according to the warmers, history began 30 years ago.

Look at all the charts they produce. They all start in the mid to late 70′s. Even when data is available for further back, they all start at the same point. Could it be that they have deliberately choosen the coldest year of the last 200 to make the recent warming seem alarming?

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:40:57 +0000

There was a period of even warmer temperatures than the MWP, it was the holocene maximum. Further evidence, global warming is not man made.

nazo311 on February 14, 2010 at 11:05 AM

The Roman Warm Period of about 2000 years ago was warmer than the MWP, but not as warm as the HM. There was another warm spell about 3000 years ago.

Hmm, warm spells every thousand years. Sounds like a possible cycle there.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:37:42 +0000

Sorry Warmers. Your house of cards has not only fallen, it is on fire.

IronDioPriest on February 14, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Maybe that is what caused global warming.

By: Michelle Malkin » The global warming scandal of the century deepens

Michelle Malkin » The global warming scandal of the century deepens — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:19:37 +0000

[...] say?” The mounting evidence and exposures say it all: The science is not settled. It has been warped, corrupted, and manipulated systemically. There needs to be a probe of the U.N. [...]

By: rightside

rightside — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:56:23 +0000

…and the husky. pony-tailed blogger continues to turn a blind eye…

By: olesparkie

olesparkie — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:54:24 +0000

Someone please refresh my memory…..Cap and Trade, and carbon credits are intended reduce carbon dioxide, which you and I exhale as a pollutant thanks to the Supreme Court; and we want to reduce carbon dioxide because it causes……what? Climate change? Could you be more specific? What kind of climate change?

By: herself

herself — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:55:09 +0000

There is something additional to consider from the graphs. The older the data the more diffuse the data. Year by year data is contaminated by our ability to accurately date them. Was the prior warming period really started so gradually? Or did it show the same rises and falls we see today were somebody present to actually take readings? I suspect the latter. I suspect the El Nino/La Nina cycle in the Pacific has been going for hundreds of millennia at least. That would lead to the warming trend being chopped up to look something like what we see today – if we really have a warming at all.

It’s all about keeping the proles compliant and taxable. With the Internet that’s getting, thankfully, a little harder to do today.

Now, who can find some tar and feathers. Let’s have a party at Al Gore’s home.

{^_^}

By: viviliberoomuori

viviliberoomuori — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:36:12 +0000

Someone once said:

If someone is accused of murder, they get front page headlines (AGW is realz, yo!)

If that person is aquitted of all charges, it shows up on page 12. (AGW has been proven to be a money making ponzi-scheme by Al Gore, and his d-bags.)

Al Gore should be arrested under the RICO act. AGW is nothing more than a highly publicized racketeering scheme.

By: mizflame98

mizflame98 — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:45:57 +0000

What I find startling is Obama can come out with a straight face and declare that we must push through cap and tax or green jobs for the sake of our planet. Hello, did he not get the memo on climate gate? All these revelations will not stop the green police.

By: mizflame98

mizflame98 — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:40:51 +0000

That warm period during the medieval times was when England was producing wine that was better than the stuff the French and Italians were putting out. As you can see on that second graph there was a serious dip in temperature. That is what scientists call the mini ice age. Because of that weather, it helped the spread of the black death, Washington while crossing the Delaware was really having to deal with a frozen river and the famous portrait wasn’t an embellishment, and people in London were able to put on ice fairs on the frozen Thames until the mid 19th century. I don’t know about you all, but I’m looking forward to some great English wine.
What I find to be so funny is I’ve known about all that for years because for years scientists have been talking about the mini ice age and the warm period before that. That right there is proof that global warming isn’t man made but apparently no one expected us average idiots figuring that out. They prefer to politicize the science and try to trick us into believing in junk science to further their goals of controlling the masses.

By: Saltysam

Saltysam — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:33:40 +0000

Jones’ late admissions demonstrate that there is nothing “settled” about AGW, and that the process and the data are too murky for any declarations of certainty.

It’s more than a little that frightening that common sense has suffered such derision while propaganda received a free ride.

I can’t even stomach the money and time wasted, while simple people suffer the cruelty of an insane world.