Iran announces success at 20% enrichment
posted at 12:55 pm on February 11, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Iran promised a telling blow on its 31st anniversary of the overthrow of the Shah and the establishment of the Shi’ite theocracy, and it delivered two. In a blow to efforts by the Obama administration to curtail Iran’s nuclear activities, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced success at enriching uranium to the 20% level — not high enough for nuclear weapons, but high enough to show that they are close to that capacity:
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed Thursday that Iran has produced its first batch of uranium enriched to a higher level, saying his country will not be bullied by the West into curtailing its nuclear program a day after the U.S. imposed new sanctions.
Ahmadinejad made the announcement in a speech to hundreds of thousands of cheering Iranians at a rally to mark the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Just two days earlier, Iran said it had begun enriching uranium to higher levels than before, raising fears it may be moving closer to the ability to produce material for a nuclear weapon. …
Iran said Tuesday it had begun enriching uranium to 20 percent purity to power a research reactor for production of medical isotopes, up from 3.5 percent previously. But the international community has demanded a halt to all enrichment activity because the same process is used to produce weapons-grade material if it is enriched to a level of 90 percent.
Experts say that from 20 percent enrichment, Iran could make a quick leap to weapons-grade uranium.
Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad delivered the second blow to Iranians with the temerity to dislike oppression. The IRGC and the Basiji came out in force to tamp down the expected widespread protests against the government, with inconsistent success:
Opposition Web sites and international newswires reported arrests and several clashes, including security forces firing tear gas and paint balls into crowds of protesters in the capital. Family members of opposition leader Mehdi Karroubi said he was attacked by plainclothes militia, though he appeared not to have been serious injured.
Protests spread to other big Iranian cities like Isfahan and Ahvaz, according to videos posted on Youtube and opposition reports. In Isfahan, opposition supporters massed on a historic city bridge, as cars honked their horns in support. Antiriot police then fired tear gas and guns in the air, chasing the crowd off the bridge, according to videos circulating on the Internet. …
Residents of Tehran, reached by phone, said much of the city had the feel of martial law, with heavy security deployed throughout the city and many shops closed. Government forces fanned out across the capital in force on Wednesday, with Revolutionary Guard Corps troops lining streets where demonstrators had signaled they would gather. Tehran residents also reported severe disruption to their Internet and cell-phone texting services late Wednesday.
Still, many opposition supporters appeared unbowed. “People are still as determined as ever to go out in the streets,” said a 40-year-old opposition supporter, reached by phone in Iran. “I don’t know anyone who has participated in previous protests and is staying home today.”
The Washington Post reports that Iran may have been exaggerating their success as a means of propaganda:
Beneath this rhetoric, U.N. reports over the last year have shown a drop in production at Iran’s main uranium enrichment plant, near the city of Natanz. Now a new assessment, based on three years of internal data from U.N. nuclear inspections, suggests that Iran’s mechanical woes are deeper than previously known. At least through the end of 2009, the Natanz plant appears to have performed so poorly that sabotage cannot be ruled out as an explanation, according to a draft study by David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS). A copy of the report was provided to The Washington Post.
The ISIS study showed that more than half of the Natanz plant’s 8,700 uranium-enriching machines, called centrifuges, were idle at the end of last year and that the number of working machines had steadily dropped — from 5,000 in May to just over 3,900 in November. Moreover, output from the nominally functioning machines was about half of what was expected, said the report, drawing from data gathered by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog.
A separate, forthcoming analysis by the Federation of American Scientists also describes Iran’s flagging performance and suggests that continued failures may increase Iran’s appetite for a deal with the West. Ivan Oelrich, vice president of the federation’s Strategic Security Program, said Iranian leaders appear to have raced into large-scale uranium production for political reasons.
While that may be true, it also takes a little pressure off of the West to act. The assumption that Iran has technological problems in its development has been made before, and proved untrue or at least somewhat exaggerated. Natanz has been a declared enrichment site, but another interpretation could be that the Iranians shifted the enrichment to its previously-hidden facility near Qom. They could have reduced the work at Natanz as a deception while progressing unimpeded at this secret facility, or perhaps at other secret sites that the UN has concluded probably exist.
Regardless, the time left to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon grows shorter every day. The Obama administration has wasted a year without any progress in slowing Iran’s progress, nor in getting Russia and China to act in concert with the West to restrain Iran. While Obama talked about outstretched hands, Iranian mullahs cracked down on its people — who, as Rep. Jeff Fortenberry wrote earlier this week at the Washington Times, are the only real hope for stopping the Iranian mullahs from getting their hands on nuclear weapons:
While Washington focuses on a new round of sanctions, many Iranian people continue to risk their lives in the country’s growing protest movement. They continue to brave the regime’s fists, clubs, water hoses and bullets to take to the streets. They continue defiantly to hold signs and chant slogans not just in Farsi, but in English so that the whole world might know their calls for justice and dignity.
With their growing mass-protest movement, everyday Iranians already have accomplished what sanctions and other forms of multilateral pressure aim to do: create the conditions for change in Tehran.
While I support new sanctions, it is time for the White House, Congress and the entire international community to elevate the Iranian people’s struggle to the center of the world stage.
The Iranian people deserve a more moderate, reasonable and just government in Tehran. They also may be the last and best hope for halting Iran’s drive to nuclear weapons capability. And it may be the Iranian people who help the world avoid a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.
Indeed. And we have done nothing to help the Iranian people along that path.









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Um, what efforts are those again? Surely not the strongly worded memos!
psrch on February 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Can we just assume they’re an immediate threat and bomb the Mahmoud out of them?
ignorantapathy on February 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Ruh-Roh. 20 percent and above is considered Highly Enriched Uranium as well as Weapons Usable.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Thank goodness the adults are in charge!
If anybody seriously thought that Obama was actually attempting to stop Iran from going nuclear I have a nice bridge, full of snow now for sale in NYC.
jukin on February 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM
While I’m naturally loathe to believe ugly-liesure-suit guy, we should consider the downside if he’s telling the truth.
SKYFOX on February 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM
White House gift shop put on alert: “Warm up as many plastic helicopters as you have.”
Bishop on February 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Well I’m sure that once Barry finds his ass with a flashlight, he’ll be right on top of this issue.
NoDonkey on February 11, 2010 at 1:03 PM
with you there
cmsinaz on February 11, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Maybe Dinnerjacket and The Whine should have a lying contest.
Best of luck to the Iranian protesters. Lord knows Dear Liar won’t lift a finger to help them (hope I’m wrong and there is some secret support going on.)
rbj on February 11, 2010 at 1:06 PM
Please excuse this total non sequitur but the florist industry must be a thriving in Iran.
Cindy Munford on February 11, 2010 at 1:09 PM
A year to a year and a half on the outside and they will achieve weapons-grade enrichment.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 1:11 PM
“Exaggerating”
Didn’t Saddam Hussein try that gambit and, if memory serves, all it got him was A ROPE!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on February 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM
OK from memory the uranium you need to run a nice safe civilian reactor that generates electricity is only 3-4% enriched. Hmmmm, why would they need to enrich it to 20%?
Johnnyreb on February 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM
Everyone is assuming that there is only one facility correct…hence the analysis of the NATANZ plant data…notice that i dont think dinnerjacket mentioned NATANZ did he…
jafo on February 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM
When a mushroom cloud rises above the central desert of Iran, or above anyplace in Israel, will sanctions be sufficient to persuade the Iranians to not build their very own Islamic nuclear arsenal?
The Dems for decades have told us that talking to Tehran was all that was needed to bring them into the family of nations….and this Administration and this Congress continue to utter the same memes…we have to talk instead of taking more serious action.
The time for talking is over…so said Obama…but he was talking to the GOP about health care….not Iran.
All that talking…has allowed Iran to do what? Exactly whatever the hell they want to do when they weant to do it.
Talk is cheap. Cheapest commodity out there. Iran knows this. But it seems to be working for them.
Sure am glad the adults are in charge in Washington these days. /
coldwarrior on February 11, 2010 at 1:16 PM
B+ for Smart Power. I wish the O would support the protestors with “just words” but it seems that’s too much to ask.
Meremortal on February 11, 2010 at 1:16 PM
They are – unfortunately, they’re the ones who put the “adult” into “adult movies”.
(Cue the porn soundtrack)
NoDonkey on February 11, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Dictators of a feather, stick together!
capejasmine on February 11, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Gee whiz gang, I’m really confused!
I thought TIME, Newsweek, and the NSA report in ’07 confirmed that Iran didn’t have a bit of interest in acquiring The Big One.
So gol-ly! Why would that nice man with the beard lie about having gotten his paws on bad ol’ Mr. Enriched Uranium?
I sure am glad our President knows what to do!
Bruno Strozek on February 11, 2010 at 1:18 PM
The Soviets had a Fast neutron reactor they used to desalinate ocean water. Fast Neutron reactors usually use fuel above 20 percent enrichment. Above 20 percent is also used in naval reactors.
Also, less than Weapon-grade enrichment can be used in nuclear weapons such as a second stage of a Thermonuclear weapon and IIRC maybe directly weaponizable.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 1:19 PM
I’ve got Valentine’s covered…
… but what does one give for “Death to America” day?
Seven Percent Solution on February 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM
exactly right. It is no longer time for sanctions, I say Go Israel! Proof that the meme of “wahh wahh, we just want our ‘rights for nuclear power’ was just that. When is this administration going to grow a set and do something?
viviliberoomuori on February 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM
Good thing Owebama and his side kick, Joltin’ Joe are on watch!!!
Nothing to worry about here……let’s focus on those Tea Baggers.
Hening on February 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM
Obow and his Dems are dismal failures at everything they try. I’m waiting for Obow to next say he ‘inherited’ this problem with Iran, which he’ll again use at an excuse for having done nothing.
I am so sick of him, his Party, and those that vote for them.
Liam on February 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM
What happened to the “punch” the west was supposed to receive today?
cntrlfrk on February 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM
It’s just a tiny little country, remember?
chewmeister on February 11, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Lord Bozo won’t act on this or any other issue. He just wants to talk a lot and look concerned.
dogsoldier on February 11, 2010 at 1:30 PM
So basically they’ve announced a “Crazy Mahmood’s” sale on dirty bomb material.
Jason Coleman on February 11, 2010 at 1:31 PM
At this point, the only question to ask here is….
…What is restraining Israel from taking out those nuke plants right now?
pilamaye on February 11, 2010 at 1:33 PM
I can get you a good deal on an “Obama for president” t-shirt . . .
NoDonkey on February 11, 2010 at 1:33 PM
I can picture a future headline: Iran Fires Nuke, President Calls on Repubs to Stop Obstructing Health Reform Bill
Liam on February 11, 2010 at 1:35 PM
sad but true…
cmsinaz on February 11, 2010 at 1:37 PM
No doubt.
Maquis on February 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Future Obama quote:
The Terrorists wouldn’t have nuked Tel-Aviv if Republicans voted for Health Care Reform.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM
I think Israel will take care of that for him.
chewmeister on February 11, 2010 at 1:39 PM
More ammo. Lots more.
Maquis on February 11, 2010 at 1:40 PM
20% would be considered HEU but would be insufficient to make an explosive device. It would make a helluva dirty bomb,though.
Sefton on February 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Looks like we’re headed into another World War.
John the Libertarian on February 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Another possible headline: Iran Fires Nuke, President Kicks Off Re-election Bid in Munich
Liam on February 11, 2010 at 1:43 PM
but…but it was a really nifty speach in cairo…
jbh45 on February 11, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Maybe if we just send Iran a few hundred billion dollars a year they won’t make any bombs. You know–that would be ‘smart power’ to make them hit the reset button. After all, there’s no problem money can’t solve, right?
Liam on February 11, 2010 at 1:48 PM
Bless them for wanting a purer Islam.
BL@KBIRD on February 11, 2010 at 1:48 PM
Capt’n: There’s a Tea Party protest against McCain in Tucson tomorrow (Friday), if you’re looking for something to write about or present to your radio audience on Saturday.
exdeadhead on February 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM
Well Urkell has to put his beanie with the propeller on now.
LtE126 on February 11, 2010 at 2:01 PM
I think weapons grade is 85-90%, isn’t it?
No doubt that’s their goal.
Rod on February 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM
Somehow this is Bushe’s fault.
Badger40 on February 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM
Maybe they are using Pu-241 bcs they want to get some Am-241 for a bunch of smoke detectors.
But instead, they are accidentally using Pu-239!
What sillies!
Badger40 on February 11, 2010 at 2:06 PM
I think it might be about 93% Pu-239 being weapons grade.
Evidently they should be allowed to use Pu-238 bcs I guess you can’t get weapons grade stuff from that.
Badger40 on February 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Little Boy was enriched to only 80, well part of it was 14 percent and the other was 89 percent but it averaged out to 80. And 40-80 percent Enrichment is used in secondary stages.
And IIRC going from 20 percent to 40 percent enrichment is quicker than the initial to 20 percent enrichment.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Sarah Palin needs to write “Decapitation Strike” on her hand.
Maybe then Obama will respond.
profitsbeard on February 11, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Excuse me. Little Boy had 50 kilograms enriched to 89 percent and 14 kilograms enriched to 50 percent, it reached 2.5 critical masses.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Look for the other Muslim nations in the Middle East to be headed to nukes too. The next war will be Sunni vs. Shia. And it’ll be ugly.
(and Israel will get caught in the middle)
mjk on February 11, 2010 at 2:17 PM
Israel can play the Samson Doctrine and might get the other Arab-Muslim countries against Iran or else the other Arab-Muslims will start cheering at the prospect of imminent end times.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM
The only balls in the Oval Office.
Click-clack-click-clack…
profitsbeard on February 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM
You’re good.
I doubt many here have a clue. I only have the most vague understandings, just enough to talk about radioactive decay in 9th grade physical science!
And when all those millions of ‘moderate’ muslims join in on the cheer, you know it’s gonna be a bad day in the middle east.
Badger40 on February 11, 2010 at 2:25 PM
I’ve always thought the nutbags should be isolated off to go at it & eliminate each other mutually.
But of course you are right about Israel & I feel really bad for them our TOTUS is a jerk.
Badger40 on February 11, 2010 at 2:27 PM
Seems to me the record is that dinner jacket has usually been found to have “understated” exactly what Iran is doing.
From the bogus 2007 NIE to the revelation of secret nuclear sites, Iran has been found to be “further” along that what the UN and liberals are always saying.
Everything Iran does is just one stalling tactic after another (aided by the UN) to help them gain the means and materials to get the bomb.
Dinner jacket is doing whatever he wants right in the face of Mr. Hope and change, the UN community,and all the “adults” that make up their liberal base.
Just add Iran getting the bomb to the many failures that are piling up in Mr. Hope and Change’s corner.
Time for another Nobel Prize……
Baxter Greene on February 11, 2010 at 2:27 PM
At least is won’t be the Methodist’s vs. the Baptists.
That would be ugly times 2.
All good liberals know that those darn Christians can be just as bad if not worse than the “Religion of Peace”.
Rod on February 11, 2010 at 2:27 PM
It may be just the thing to spur him into action!
Badger40 on February 11, 2010 at 2:27 PM
You pick a lot up working the jobs that I have. I can’t tell you about them other than to say I can’t tell you about them.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 2:31 PM
He’s lying they’re turning out bomb grade material as we speak. They’ll have a working weapon this year.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM
We will know when they detonate one over Tel-Aviv. You do not need to test a gun-type U-235 bomb, we tested ours on Hirosihma.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Zero.
Maquis on February 11, 2010 at 2:46 PM
I don’t think they’ll bomb Tel-Aviv. At least not right away. It’s a long way from being able to produce a low yield gun weapon to being able to outgun the U.S. I think their first move will be done to gain control of the straits of Hormuz and all the oil from the region. “Who can destroy a thing controls the thing.”
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 2:46 PM
How do we no that Iran isn’t purposefully creating this impression, giving them more breathing room to complete their machinations at other facilities about which we have little or no knowledge?
These guys have been successful at deception for a long, long time.
hillbillyjim on February 11, 2010 at 2:51 PM
Plus they don’t really have a way yet to deliver such a heavy device that far. They got Mig-29s and Mirage F-1s but those don’t really have the range. Supposedly they are buying Flankers and Tankers from Russia but no word on whether they are delivered or even if the deal has been made. And the bomb should weigh a couple of tons which would probably rule out missile delivery.
Their eventual goal is the subjugation of the Jews.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 2:55 PM
Their eventual goal is the
subjugationEXTERMINATION of the Jews. Imadinnerjacket has stated that publicly in the past.oldleprechaun on February 11, 2010 at 2:58 PM
But Israel is estimated to have anywhere from 100 to 400 nuclear weapons in the megaton or at least in the hundred kiloton range and multiple ways to launch them.
If they get bombed and respond with the Samson Option, every major settlement out to a maximum of 7000 miles can get plastered.
Buh-bye Mecca.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM
For those who are unclear about uranium enrichment (inluding Mr. Morrissey), check out the Wikipedia page. Here’s the relevant parts:
Slightly-enriched uranium: 0.9% to 2%. Used in some heavy-water reactors.
Low-enriched uranium: <20%. Used in light-water reactors. Most commercial power reactors use 3% to 5%. Research reactors use 12% to 19.75%.
Highly-enriched uranium: 20%+. Nuclear weapons usually contain 85%+, but 20% is enough for a crude, inefficient weapon. Naval reactors (subs, carriers) use 50%+.
Bottom line: anything near 20% or over is dangerous. DinnerJacket wouldn’t have to kill a million people to make his point. A few thousand would do nicely.
Splashman on February 11, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Did the west get punched today and I missed it? Anyone?
jwp1964 on February 11, 2010 at 3:21 PM
Impossible: the Cario TOTUS reading made them all loves us.
Dingbat63 on February 11, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Would someone please put the nutjob out of his misery?
tbear44 on February 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM
I’m unsure of your age but are you familiar with the alleged events that took place in that area in 1973? I’m speaking of the events that we didn’t read about in the newspapers. Your reference to the Samson option caught my eye.
I’m curious where you found that number. 50%+ is a pretty wide range.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 3:34 PM
I am only 28 but I read a lot, are you referring to the Yom Kippur War when Golda Meir put 8 nuclear armed F-4 Phantoms at Tel Nof on 24 hour nuclear alert?
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 3:41 PM
Yeah, it was 13 at the time. At least so the rumor goes. Did you know that we (supposedly) sent an SR 71 over to check it out? I’ve heard that the Israeli’s tried, unsuccessfully, to intercept and shoot it down. When given the order the Israeli pilot replied “I’ll try.” His next transmission was that the Blackbird had accelerated and climbed out of his range. Nixon supposedly made a deal with Brezhnev too that was designed to keep the two super powers out of the conflict. The USSR was to give Egypt some specific number of nukes and we would not interfere. In exchange neither the US nor the USSR would take sides but would sit out the whole thing and pick up the pieces after it was over. The Soviet nukes were in transit when the Israelis turned things around and started kicking butt. The Soviets stopped delivery of their weapons and pretty much left the area for good. Don’t know how much if any of that’s true but it’s a damn good sea story. Don’t remember exactly where I heard it.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 4:00 PM
No one is talking about the potential arms race this can cause. When Iran’s neighbors see these nutbags building nukes what will prevent them from doing the same? Do we really want to deal with a middle east arms race during these times?
Scorched_Earth on February 11, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Now the part about Egypt being given nuclear weapons is something I hadn’t heard about and would have been a good decision for the two Superpowers to reach.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 4:07 PM
I am actually optimistic about the effects of a nuclear Iran. No better way to make peace when the only option is peace or mutual annihilation.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 4:15 PM
If it’s true I would say that it was a true triumph in diplomacy for Nixon. One that he couldn’t easily take credit for at least publicly.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Indeed, they should get their most fervent wish. I believe Israel would like to help them fulfill their dreams.
Blacksmith8 on February 11, 2010 at 4:29 PM
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 4:15 PM
You do realize that the leaders of Iran are suicidal religious nutcases who believe that if they nuked Israel (for example) and were nuked in return, that they would immediately enter paradise?
Never before have avowed homocidal maniac religious fanatics been in control of nuclear weapons. The leaders of Iran believe that starting a nuclear war will usher in the 12th Imam, fulfill a religious prophecy that will result in all Muslims entering heaven.
That’s the peace they want. Where everyone on earth is dead. Is that what you had in mind?
NoDonkey on February 11, 2010 at 4:31 PM
I don’t see how a middle east arms race can be prevented, at this point. If I was Saudi or Jordan or whoever, I’d sure want one. The entire world + UN has spend the last 10 or so years demonstrating that nobody is going to do anything except debate wording and deadlines that are never enforced.
The big O is certainly never going to do the one thing that would make any difference.
Somewhere in a Jerry Pournelle book ‘peace’ is called something like ‘an ideal postulated from the fact that there are intervals between wars’. He said it better than that. There are always the guys who can only be convinced by force.
jodetoad on February 11, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Funny how today’s events remind me of the Carter years. Our do nothing pres, Ineedadinnerjacket torturing and kidnapping bystanders, all the world worried about the oil, the saudis no where to be heard from, Israel prepping a midnight flight and our economy is in the tank. The most common thing I heard during the ‘Jimmy Carter Desert Classic’ was “that f&*^ing spineless yellow snake is going to back up over his tail and get us into another war”
Blacksmith8 on February 11, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Nope. I expect the Iranian people to really make a stink about the Regime, protests to this date has nothing on what I expect to see.
I also expect several Sunni Muslims to look honestly toward Israel as the only counter to a bunch of madmen with nuclear bombs, to the point of treaties written.
Holger on February 11, 2010 at 4:47 PM
I expect them to assert themselves in the region and blackmail everybody. If we try to blockade them they’ll raise hell in the region and we won’t be able to do a thing. Once things start they’ll develop quickly and the Chinese will be sure to take advantage of the chaos. They know that they have three years of a doofus ineffectual leadership in the US that couldn’t pour Kool Aid out of boot with directions written on the heel. Every enemy and potential adversary in the world is going to take advantage of that. This will not end well. Just my $.02 worth, but hey I’m an optimist.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 5:33 PM
I found it where I said I found it — the Wikipedia page for enriched uranium.
In the section titled “Highly enriched uranium (HEU)”:
And if you follow that “naval reactor” link, you’ll see this:
Splashman on February 11, 2010 at 5:39 PM
You can even be buried in it.
onlineanalyst on February 11, 2010 at 5:42 PM
What point do you suppose killing ‘a few thousand’ people would be intended to make? There are far easier and cheaper ways of killing a few thousand people than using a low-yield nuclear explosion.
Furthermore, a crude nuclear attack by the Iranians that killed only ‘a few thousand’ people would, in military terms, be little more than an invitation for swift and massive retaliation.
YiZhangZhe on February 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Ahmadinejad: Hah! Made ya look!
Knott Buyinit on February 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM
As always, the message won’t be aimed at America, but at Iran’s neighbors. Do I really need to spell it out?
Your comment is nonsensical, as there is no way that any conceivable attack by Iran, even killing tens of millions, could wipe out our ability to retaliate. DinnerJacket doesn’t care about retaliation. He cares about writing himself into the history books as having struck a blow against the infidels. And that’s what makes him so dangerous.
Even at the height of the cold war, the Russians were not this dangerous, as they had rational goals (at least by their standard).
Splashman on February 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Or a properly guided cruise missle.
chewmeister on February 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
I’d like to think it was wisdom and intelligence.
Any nation that launched a military attack against Iranian nuclear sites would need to be certain that a nuclear weapons programme was (a) underway and (b) findable. If Iran can portray itself to be an ‘innocent victim’ of Israeli aggression then all hell will break-out for Israel.
Personally I am coming to the view that this is exactly what Iran wants … i.e. to provoke an attack by Israel while there is, in reality, nothing yet to hide. Israel will be condemned as the aggressor and possibly be subjected to economic sanctions and proxy attacks, and Iran will then be able to justify the open, unhindered acquisition of any weapons it desires as they will have been proven necessary for self-defence. Win-win for Iran.
YiZhangZhe on February 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Sorry, I missed the Wiki reference in your post. That 50% number just looked a little strange to me. As far as I know no US Naval reactor has an enrichment that low not even back when I was in. I have no idea what the Russians used then and especially not now. Commercial PWR’s use in the neighborhood of 4 to 5 % U235, but over core life they produce Pu239 which will account for about 10% of their power output at the end of the fuel cycle. Candu plants, in Canada, use natural uranium with no enrichment but they have to be moderated with heavy water and they get refueled while on line. Not sure how that works but they seem satisfied with them. One of our operators left us and emigrated to Canada back in the 80′s to work at a Candu plant.
Don’t believe everything you read on Wiki. If you notice the two sections quoted above contradict each other.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Fact? Israeli intel has a deservedly great rep. in spite of 2006
A small correction or two or three:
Weapons grade U 235 starts at about 58%. Reactor grade from 2% to about 10% with some research around 20%. Fast neutron reactor at 20%, I dunno. Typical yellowcake or ore at 0.75%. Typical U235 bomb needs 90% but can be >85% in large quantity.
Wikipedia on Enriched Uranium And yes they are not authoritative but a starting place.
Iran is definitely a place whose comments need close examination by knowledgeable folks. I don’t qualify. Betcha there are Israelis, Saudis and Indians (elephant Indians, not feather Indians heh) who do. I’ll watch them and take cue from their actions.
The article link that says many of the Nanatz site centrifuges are down gets cred from the way Iran has treated tanks and airplanes. Even Soviet ones. They fly for a bit but do no maintenance. Not even enough to allow pilots and drivers to keep current. Not an exclusively Iranian trait.
Thanks for joining the discussion Holger.
Bottom line: Icky Dinner Jacket announcement /Yawn
Caststeel on February 11, 2010 at 6:01 PM
I yield to the man with experience. Welcome!
Caststeel on February 11, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Why thank you. I’ve been around for a while now. My experience is mostly with reactors not bombs. The weapons I’m familiar with went out of production years ago.
Oldnuke on February 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
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