Wisconsin pro-life groups illegally investigated by the government and by police
posted at 6:04 pm on February 10, 2010 by Cassy Fiano
Last year, there was a firestorm over Janet Napolitano’s right wing terrorist list. This list included war veterans and pro-lifers. Once the list was leaked, conservatives were understandably outraged, and the Obama administration tried to cover it up immediately.
However, it looks like there might have been some truth to that list. A pro-life group in Wisconsin was recently investigated by police and the government for literally no reason at all.
The Department of Homeland Security admitted today that it improperly conducted a threat assessment on pro-life and pro-abortion groups in Wisconsin. The assessment came before an expected rally last year in response to the University of Wisconsin Hospital board decided to allow abortions.
In February 2009, pro-life advocates planned to protest the hospital’s decision to open up a new Madison Surgery Center doing abortions.
The Associated Press reported today that the department said in a memo that it “destroyed all of the copies of the assessment after an internal review found it violated intelligence gathering guidelines about ‘protest groups which posed no threat to homeland security.’”
AP indicated the assessment was reportedly only shared with the director of Wisconsin’s intelligence-sharing center and local police in Middleton, Wisconsin, the site of the rally.
Today, a pro-life organization in Wisconsin informed LifeNews.com of its concerns.
In response to an open records request by the Alliance Defense Fund and Pro-Life Wisconsin, the Middleton Police Department and the Wisconsin Department of Justice, along with the Department of Homeland Security all refused on February 4 to release copies of the threat assessment.
Pro-Life Wisconsin officials told LifeNews.com that the assessment was “inappropriately shared” and should never have targeted pro-life groups.
“The majority of Americans identify themselves as pro-life, and the Middleton Police Department has shown they are out of touch with this peaceful majority,” said Peggy Hamill, state director of the pro-life group. “Pro-lifers are not a minority of the population, nor are they second-class citizens. We refuse to let our First Amendment rights be silenced.”
A few months later in 2009, the Department of Homeland Security’s Office for Civil Rights concluded the investigation was an improper use of department resources.
The conclusion said the department inappropriately directed against activities protected by the First Amendment, in which law enforcement inappropriately engaged in “the collection, retention and dissemination of U.S. person information regarding protest groups which posed no threat to homeland security and… violated [DHS] Guidelines.”
Hamill said DHS destroyed its copies of the report, but the Middleton Police Department retained its copy.
In January 2010 the Alliance Defense Fund, on behalf of Wisconsin pro-life advocates, asked the Middleton Police Department for a copy of the report pursuant to Wisconsin’s open records laws.
The Middleton Police Department refused to disclose the report and further said that the DOJ similarly refused to authorize disclosure of the report, despite the fact that DHS had already determined that the report was an improper investigation of freedom of speech activities.
“This move by DHS illustrates the Obama administration’s goal of silencing pro-lifers. It is disturbing that a local police department has apparently tapped into the security apparatus of the federal government to potentially obstruct free speech,” Hamill concluded.
“Last year, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano unjustly included pro-lifers in a report on domestic terrorism, and here we see her words in action,” she said.
I don’t suppose we’ll be seeing the ACLU standing up to fight this one, will we?
I’m curious. Why exactly would the government feel the need to investigate a rally? Just because it’s pro-life? I know, I know — DHS “apologized”. All that really means is that they’re sorry someone complained and the news got out about it. If no one ever acknowledged that this was wrong and illegal, do you honestly think there ever would have been an apology issued? Even more disturbing is that the local police department won’t release their copy of this report to let us know just why, exactly, this pro-life group was deemed a threat. Was it simply because they were pro-life? It sure does look that way.
All throughout Bush’s presidency, liberals protested him on a seemingly daily basis. They burned him in effigy, they fantasized about assassination, and they said over and over again that dissent was the strongest form of patriotism. Protesting, they said, is an important civil right. But now the tables have turned and we have a liberal extremist, pro-abortion president in office. Dissent is no longer tolerated, and protesting? If you’re on the wrong side of the issue, that’s not allowed, either.
Unfortunately for Obama, I don’t think this will stop pro-lifers, though. They’re some of the most incredible people around. Regardless of how much they get smeared and slandered, regardless of the potential cost, they keep on fighting for the sanctity of human life. They don’t do it for profit or gain, and they do it even if it means the government will try to silence them. Obama’s DHS tried to pick a fight, and they really should have known better. When you actually have morals and are willing to fight for what you believe in, a little bullying won’t be enough to scare you away.
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They were the “criminal” kind of different.
tetriskid on February 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Obama’s Administration…..It Begins…….
volsense on February 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Well it is only a matter of seconds before Jimbo is defending the action.
In the meantime, I think this is actionable against the feds. If not by criminal counts but by civil trial. No American with the possible exception of idiots like Jimbo want the feds to be improperly conducting threat assessments.
highhopes on February 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
They also want to restrict people on the “Watch list” from buying firearms.
Is it possible there could be a connection between these two ‘random’ items????
Insert witty screen name here on February 10, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Scary stuff.
I hope Glenn Beck picks this story up, if only to get A Huffington all hot and bothered.
bridgetown on February 10, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Hmmm, in other news reports they said pro-choice groups were investigated too… and the ACLU was already on it…
ninjapirate on February 10, 2010 at 6:13 PM
The peopl ethat do this protesting are amazing people to do it in the People Republic of Madtown. That they are punished as being named terrorists when we can’t even charge a man that killed 13 soldiers as a terrorist Digusts me.
Guess I should get ready for the gulag.
Gracelynn on February 10, 2010 at 6:14 PM
.
–So what’s wrong with them investigating both groups before a big protest? And what’s the problem with threat assessments? No one (except a few people) knew it was being conducted, so no one’s First Amendment rights were violated. It’s not like the cops came and hauled people away.
Jimbo3 on February 10, 2010 at 6:14 PM
+100.
Wise words.
Conservative Samizdat on February 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM
First they came for the pro-life groups and I said nothing…..
jukin on February 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM
I can’t believe this protest would have been on DHS’s radar, nor, likely, the pro-life groups involved in it, and someone must have brought it to their attention and requested the investigation. Has anyone pursued that line of inquiry?
Dusty on February 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM
–The protest was in Middletown, not Madison.
Jimbo3 on February 10, 2010 at 6:17 PM
A
–Read the article more closely. This wasn’t a violation of the First Amendment. It was a violation of departmental guidelines.
Jimbo3 on February 10, 2010 at 6:18 PM
No, they’re out of touch with the the First Amendment.
This was inevitable. And don’t believe more of it isn’t going on as we speak. Left + power = crushing of dissent. An iron-bound rule of human political existence. No exceptions to the rule.
If the Left ever had one incident like this to pin on Bush it would have been blasted over the mainstream media. “Violation of free speech”! Violation of civil liberties!” “Abuse of power!” “Jackboots!” “Congressional investigation!”
rrpjr on February 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM
What’s right with them investigating ANY group?
If PP were investigated, you’d flip a hissy fit you’d want remembered for epochs. Who do you think you’re kidding, hypocrite?
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:20 PM
highhopes = clairvoyant
Fallen Sparrow on February 10, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Hyperbole.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Hmmmm Surprising that this is not getting that much local coverage here in MADISON WISCONSIN of all places…. The local libs just don’t want to hear about it.
WhoU4 on February 10, 2010 at 6:25 PM
Sigh.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:25 PM
They spent more time and effort directed at this pro life group than they did the Ft. Hood shooter.
It is obvious who they consider the enemy to be. And very possibly, this could be a trial run. A test to see if anyone would notice, if there would be much public reaction.
They haven’t changed their stripes just because DHS changed that report last year. They are who they are.
Three more years to go.
JellyToast on February 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM
You’re a comic, right?
YOU whined about Bush looking in, without evidence. That was an ‘attack’ on your First Amendment, huh, wasn’t it? And you didn’t know, either, did you? But you sure as hell simpered about it.
You are such a sanctimonious phony. YOU screeched about being looked into without anyone knowing, and that was government subversion with you, wasn’t it? That was EEEVIL!
You’re a total hypocrite. Some F-ing ‘liberal’ you are. If I were a lib, I wouldn’t want you on my side. You’re part of the problem, not the solution to making me more free.
Hypocrite
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:27 PM
Know what? Your own post tells us all you’re as bad as Bush for invading our liberty.
Hypocrite! You F-ing sanctimonious right-wing fanatic.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Hey awesome. I can’t wait for the census results to be analyzed and “suspect” Americans properly identified.
Let’s see:
Veteran ✓
Conservative ✓
Male ✓
Christian ✓
Employed ✓
I’m screwed.
Bishop on February 10, 2010 at 6:31 PM
You forgot ‘White.’
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM
Screw you, Bushite. You’re as bad as bush, and all your pitiful sarcasm doesn’t hide what you really are.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM
We knew that we could depend on our resident racist to point it out. thnx
thomasaur on February 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM
I don’t get this. It’s illegal and a violation of people’s civil liberties. They acknowledge that they did something wrong. So, why does the Police Dept get to keep it’s records and not disclose the information? There should be a lawsuit here and why does the right just sit back and take this? They should not be allowed to get away with this and they should disclose their reasoning behind their actions. Any right wing outlet would be required to substantial more under similar circumstances. Right wing attorney’s just don’t scream loud enough. Coming on the heels of the Tebow outcry, the American public needs to understand the type of people who are pro-choice zealots.
Sultry Beauty on February 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM
That’s new one. Relax Liam. Drink a beer or something. It’s OK.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Tap-tap-tap “Hey in there wake up.”
“I’ll have a number three combo with a coke and fries.”
Oldnuke on February 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Pathetic of you, Bushite, to want me to drink. Maybe alcohol is your vile thing? It’s OK if you’re a drunk.
You’re a Bushite. He stole my liberty, and so are you trying to do the same in a different way. You’re just like him, hypocrite.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:38 PM
Why would I add that?
Bishop on February 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM
I notice that you’re afraid to debate Liam about the Constitution. Why is that?
BTW, come back to the Contessa Brewer thread, we miss your comedy relief.
Del Dolemonte on February 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Ditto. Beck has the platform to expose this.
Doesn’t that bother you?
conservative pilgrim on February 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Isn’t that on your list of Conservative Victimology traits? If not, my bad.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM
How about Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable surveillance?
Chris_Balsz on February 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM
I have a question for the Police Chief of Middleton:
Your boss wants that report. You give it up. I don’t care one wit what DHS or any Federal agency has to say about it. When it comes to your paycheck, ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL!
Holder’s DOJ and Nappie’s DHS are now the most misused and abused federal offices. Funny, I used to think the IRS was bad.
Blacksmith8 on February 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM
Ooohhhhhhh…you’re under the impression that everyone here is white. Gotcha. Now all you need to do is explain why you think that way.
Bishop on February 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM
Tin foil cap on. What proof is there that the copies of the assessment were really destroyed. They’ve already admitted to violating the law. I’m waiting to here who’s heads will roll for this violation of rights by DHS.
chemman on February 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM
Actually, it’s Middleton not Middletown. Middleton is on the west side of Madison, just an extension of the People’s Republic.
chewmeister on February 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM
You give too much credit there, using the term ‘think’.
Typical Bushie of him.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM
I don’t “need” to explain anything to you.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM
Now all you need to do is explain why you think that way.
I don’t “need” to explain anything to you.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM
But we all find you so fascinating…like a zit.
kingsjester on February 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM
Maybe you posted it already but can you tell me how Bush stole your liberty? Just curious.
docdave on February 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM
Ah, so you’re willing to post that I missed labeling myself as “white” but not why you think I’m white.
Not that it matters, you would twist yourself into a pathetic pretzel in the effort anyway.
Bishop on February 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Hey, Bushite–got a question for you to mull while I go for some Chinese takeout:
Bush gave us tax increases, right? And now Obow is also giving them. You were fine for those Bushie increases, but now you’re not, while being in favor of Obow.
Bushie did them first, which tells us all you’re a Bushie. You just like defending what’s here and now, don’t you? And that’s the end for you.
I, on the other hand, want NO MORE tax increases, like your guys Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, and Obow keep doing to to me.
You’re such a Bushite, such a hypocrite!
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM
One slight correction to this WaPo story: the Maryland State Police labeled DAWN as a white supremacist organization. Doesn’t that sorta ruin your narrative, kid?
Question: Why would a newspaper that endorsed Democrats in 2000, 2004 and 2008 would wait 4 years to get this story out? Especially since the organization in question went out of existence in 2007?
Answer: “Makes Bush look evil”.
F-
Del Dolemonte on February 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM
I will in time. Trust me, please?
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM
Wow, look at the big brain on Brian.
Is your rabid hatred reflexive or does it require cognition?
daesleeper on February 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM
docdave on February 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM
Just trust him.
kingsjester on February 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Not like they ever investigated the unions when they took part in protests against Bush…
lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM
or a boil?
Gracelynn on February 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM
or a boil?
Gracelynn on February 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Yes, ma’am…in a very annoying location.
kingsjester on February 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM
.
How long before the watch list includes sites like Hot Air?
fourdeucer on February 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM
So if you’re wondering who the Patriot Act was written for…
It was Patriots
Has been all along
Tony Soprano on February 10, 2010 at 6:53 PM
How about the right to assemble and the right to petition government for a redress of grievances. This would have the effect chilling those rights by targeting either group. And the last time I looked those were part of the 1st amendment.
chemman on February 10, 2010 at 6:53 PM
you’re a hypocrite b/c you vote party lines, and that’s all you see. Bush gave you evetything you wanted, and all you claim now that’s great about Obow is the same as Bush did. Since Bush did it all first, you’re a Bushite, whether you believe that or not.
Bush did it all first–Bush got us into war but Obow KEEPS us in war. Since today is fine with you, and bush did it first, you’re a Bushite.
More is there, which you know since you’re so aware and on top of current events. That being the case, based on your intelligence, you’re not just a Bushie but also a hypocrite.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 6:54 PM
Already happening
Tony Soprano on February 10, 2010 at 6:55 PM
What if the police department shared that list with the Sec of State or school districts and you couldn’t get:
1)a trucking license
1a) a liquor license for the restaurant you want to open
1b) a license to have a daycare in your home
2)a teaching job
3)an administrators job in a school district
4)rent a room from your school for a non school event
And they just denied you these things without telling you what the real reason was or they suddenly adopted new policies etc? Would you have a problem with it then?
journeyintothewhirlwind on February 10, 2010 at 6:56 PM
This is jaw droppingly outrageous.
ronsfi on February 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM
Sue the government dry if I were the organizers.
jdun on February 10, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Not really.
Policemen, generally, are a bit dense. They see any group of protestors as potentially troublesome. Justifactions come later. I wouldn’t get your panties in a wad over some illusory notion that Obama-era DHS/police has it in for conservatives. Just policemen being policemen.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 7:04 PM
“Bush did it all first–Bush got us into war but Obow KEEPS us in war. Since today is fine with you, and bush did it first, you’re a Bushite.”
I’d say the people attacking us on 9/11 got us into a war. Your juvenile name calling bespeaks a lack of maturity more suited to Huffpoo or DKos.
gitarfan on February 10, 2010 at 7:04 PM
..and certainly not the kind of language befitting a “constitutional master[de]bater.”
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 7:05 PM
The bottom line is, this is reprehensible, vile, and disgusting. No matter who the president is. The first ammendment, and the right to peaceful protest belongs to everyone…and anyone that argues against it, is a willing participant, in the silencing of dissent.
capejasmine on February 10, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Police State.
Holger on February 10, 2010 at 7:11 PM
+100
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Not yet. Further from it than we were in 1941 and 1968 but we are moving that in that direction. Hopefully sanity will prevail.
Oldnuke on February 10, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Grow Fins…so when will you debate LIAM on the Constitution ? This I gotta see.
CWforFreedom on February 10, 2010 at 7:19 PM
I won’t.
Grow Fins on February 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Fins
Not surprised . You’d get smoked.
CWforFreedom on February 10, 2010 at 7:22 PM
obama IS fundamentally changing America. It is becoming not a nanny state, but a police state, the true aim of any self-respecting communist.
We don’t have three years. The damage he can do/has done with czars, Supreme Court and federal court appointments, Cloward-Piven system bankruptcy and overload, and the tens of thousands of commie regulations Cass Sustein will hogtie Americans with have not even yet become apparent, never mind foreign policy/terrorism disasters.
We don’t have three years. We need to start including impeachment in the list of tea party demands.
tigerlily on February 10, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Really? Constitutional rights mean that little to you that violations are based on who knew? The only way this would be justifiable was if there was a credible threat. As it is, this only monsters like you getting in a snit that most Americans are against the kind of murder you demand the rest of us support without question.
highhopes on February 10, 2010 at 7:26 PM
I was looking forward to it too. What do you think, just cowardice or an intellectual vacuum?
Oldnuke on February 10, 2010 at 7:27 PM
You need to do two things better: Read me, and get to know me.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM
YES! But let’s be clear here. Clinton was impeached but the Senate refused to remove from office. Not only do we need impeachment but we need the Senate to give a vote that would send Chicago Jesus back home.
highhopes on February 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM
He missed the obvious too. Lots of people know it was conducted now.
Oldnuke on February 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Why? I’ve challenged any liberal to debate me on the Constitution, point by point. We agree, together on the ground rules, and ask HA mods to allow an open thread for it. Me against any liberal, on the Document and the Bill of Rights.
That’s it. Politics are aside.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Welcome to Comrade Chairman Obama’s Amerika.
It’s time to start thinking about impeachment. These people have got to go sooner rather than later.
Dave R. on February 10, 2010 at 7:32 PM
You never met the PA State Police with whom I’ve worked on occasion. Total professionals. And the way this one Trooper treated an abused wife who walked barefoot in snow to get away from being further hurt…Well, that Trooper would blow away all of your liberal ‘compassion’.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM
? Are you really this “dense?” Come on….Debate Liam, I dare you!
texgal on February 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM
BTW–she was carrying an infant, too. This Trooper, this man–was kind and considerate. Cops are dense? No, Bushie hypocrite. YOU are, and so are the rest of your kind. You often prove that, so often. Not all of you are like that, but most are.
I still hold open my challenge, as I’ve stated, to debate any liberal on the Constitution at any time. I want it fair and honest, taken point-by-point. Me and the liberal set the ground rules, in public, and ask HA to host us on an open thread.
We work out the rules–like Obama being willing to talk to Pubs in a televised open forum on the Health Care bill.
If you are unwilling, please let your friends from here on HA the offer stands, and I’ll take him or her on.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 7:43 PM
All I hear is the sound of crickets!
texgal on February 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM
WHAT IS SCARY? THIS IS AMERICA! You know you have to check out conservative vets and prolifers and not waste time on PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES!
Better pipe down on the impeachment talk. I get whipped daily for being an exbirther. Daily.
And what did The One have to do with this? I can find no guilt here. This was probably staffers like the czars and etc. who just come and go. They don’t get checked out either.
And that is scary.
BTW, Can we get a secret handshake for HA vets so we can greet one another in the cattle cars on the way to Chicago? Assuming any of us are not rag dolled.
IlikedAUH2O on February 10, 2010 at 7:47 PM
It’s too bad Homeland Security doesn’t monitor terrorists as well as they monitor pro-life groups.
SoulGlo on February 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM
It’ll come. If not Fins, then maybe someone else.
The funny thing, which will shock libs, is that I was required in 1974 (of all times) to memorize the Bill of Rights–by a black man. Mr. Ruth is the best history teacher I ever had.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM
God Bless Mr. Ruth!
texgal on February 10, 2010 at 7:53 PM
Amen! He was a great history teacher and, most important to me, a teacher. Ten years earlier, a black man would ‘have to’ step into the gutter when me and my mom passed him on the sidewalk.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Everything the libs were screaming that Bush would do, the Ojesus administration is actually doing. Where are the protests? Where is the righteous indignation?
Crickets from the hypocrites.
Creating DHS was Bush’s biggest mistake. The intelligence bugaboos could have been solved administratively without creating another monstrous arm of the federal intrusion machine.
hillbillyjim on February 10, 2010 at 8:07 PM
Hey, Fins:
I saw your earlier posts, and you seek any excuse to not accept my challenge.
If this helps…Yes, I hate liberals because I used to be liberal and was so dead wrong back then. My hate won’t be an issue, if you accept the challenge.
You and me set basic rules–nothing complex. It’ll be along the lines of I won’t call you a Commie if you won’t call me a Nazi. Another thing I aim is that Party affiliation doesn’t matter. The Constitution and Bill of Rights–point-by-point–are the matter. Take it back to 1784, and the Federalist Papers. You and me apply that debate, from then, to the here and now. Point by point.
You’re so steadfast in your view, as I am in mine. Let’s re-do the Constitution, and let the observers decide for themselves.
After we agree, you and me petition HA to host this debate.
Fair enough?
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM
Take it to court.
Depending on what methods they used to collect information, they could have very well been breaking some serious laws.
If they used open source, then, well they didn’t break any laws. However, it doesn’t deter the *this is scary* feeling.
carti3r on February 10, 2010 at 8:14 PM
Bush gave them everything they wanted, and still they scream.
Just today, a lib whined that Bush gave a new entitlement program: prescription drugs.
But if he didn’t sign off, he’d be ‘evil’ and ‘wanting to kick grandma down the stairs’.
Amazing how libs are. More incredible, they think they’re RIGHT in both cases.
If you and me could make that kind of delusion a reality, we’d own the Universe.
Sad, isn’t it, that reality is so mean-spirited, part of that vast right-wing conspiracy?
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM
Hahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!!!! Yeah, they’ll get right on it!
GarandFan on February 10, 2010 at 8:19 PM
You know, Fins, you’re a comic.
You won’t debate me, as you say, because I call names. But so do YOU and everyone knows it.
You libs likes drawing equivalence, well here’s one from that racist SOB bigot you have shown to hate so much and so often.
I challenge you; I dare you. Come get me.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM
As mentioned above, the fact that the local law got involved with this is equally interesting.
Question for someone from that neck-of-the-woods: do police chiefs up there tend to be ‘political appointments’, or are they ‘merit’ based [i.e. rising up thru the ranks]?
That could explain a few things.
CPT. Charles on February 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM
When was the report generated and how close was it to the most recent murder of that abortion doctor?
danking70 on February 10, 2010 at 9:09 PM
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