Quinnipiac: 59% want terrorists handled by military commissions

posted at 8:57 pm on February 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

In the second poll today showing roughly the same conclusion, Quinnipiac’s latest poll of registered voters nationwide shows that a wide majority of Americans disagree with the Obama administration’s decision to use the criminal courts to try captured terrorists.  Fifty-nine percent of respondents want the US to handle such terrorists through military commissions, while only 35% agree with the White House’s policy of trying them in court.  Even the President’s own party is split almost down the middle, only 48/45 in favor of criminal trials:

American voters say 59 – 35 percent that 9/11 terrorism suspects should be tried in military courts rather than in civilian courts, as currently planned. Voters say 68 – 25 percent that terrorism suspects should not receive all of the constitutional protections afforded by a civilian trial. Democrats prefer civilian courts 48 – 45 percent. Support for military courts is 73 – 23 percent among Republicans and 61 – 33 percent among independent voters.

The suspect who allegedly tried to blow up an airliner on Christmas Day should be tried as an enemy combatant rather than as an ordinary criminal, voters say 76 – 19 percent. But voters approve 52 – 42 percent of the FBI’s advice to the suspect of his right to remain silent.

“When it comes to how suspected terrorists should be treated by the American judicial system there is a significant gap between the American people and President Barack Obama,” said Brown. “Although they give the President a 49 – 44 percent approval rating on handling terrorism, the devil is in the details. When it comes to his decision to treat suspected terrorists as common criminals deserving of civilian trials rather than as enemy combatants judged by military tribunals they are strongly in the other corner. There is a similar disconnect on the basic question of whether suspected terrorists should have the same rights as ordinary criminals.

“Voters agree, however, with the Obama administration decision to advise the suspect in the Christmas bombing attempt of his right to remain silent.”

Earlier today, the WaPo/ABC poll came up with remarkably similar numbers.  In that survey, respondents split 55/39 in favor of military commissions, but that was a survey of adults, not registered voters.  The case of the EunuchBomber appears to have made a big difference, as the WaPo survey in November showed an almost even split of 48/47.

The Q-poll doesn’t have any kind of historical track for that question, but does break down some of the demographics.  Military courts get solid majorities in every age, gender, income, religious, and education subgroup.  In fact, only two demos fail to show a majority: Democrats, with the split as noted above, and black voters, who split 47/47 on the question.

Americans have as solid a consensus on this question as on any political question of the day — and the Obama adminstration is operating well outside of it.


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Americans are thinking stupidly.

Bishop on February 10, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Americans are thinking stupidly.

Bishop on February 10, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Women and minorites hardest hit…

Seven Percent Solution on February 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Ed, great work today. What is Allah snowed in? I’m only 20 miles south of him and I’m blogging.

What a wimp.

Oh and about the post…duh.

russcote on February 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Americans have as solid a consensus on this question as on any political question of the day — and the Obama adminstration is operating well outside of it.

But this administration has staked itself on the idea that terrorists are simply criminals. How do they change course now?

My guess. Dithering until the GOP takes charge of the House and Senate in January 2011. Then the excuse will be “Congressional action.”

highhopes on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Americans have as solid a consensus on this question as on any political question of the day — and the Obama adminstration is operating well outside of it.

No…Ed, c’mon. It’s the American public that is thinking well outside the good intentions of the Obama administration. Once we get our heads on straight after a few dozen more speeches and e’splanations, then we be straight. cool?

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Democrats prefer civilian courts 48 – 45 percent.

Who are these pople?

publiuspen on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 PM

people

publiuspen on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 PM

Looks like Obie’s little “dealing with terrorism” problem is not going away.

Dire Straits on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Fifty-nine percent of respondents want the US to handle such terrorists through military commissions

The left thinks that our support of using military commissions accounts as a failure to support the federal court of law. I say, not true at all folks. The military commissions are legal jurisdictions for enemy combatants, of which UFA is one.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Holder must go.

Then Obama.

Who picked the fool.

profitsbeard on February 10, 2010 at 9:07 PM

That we will be unmerciful to radical Islam and quite benevolent to those who reject it — that is the proper message. – Victor Davis Hanson

I know it, you know it, the American people know it..well, at least 50-some-odd % of them, anyway.

Knott Buyinit on February 10, 2010 at 9:08 PM

“Voters agree, however, with the Obama administration decision to advise the suspect in the Christmas bombing attempt of his right to remain silent.”

am i reading that right? we agree with dear leader re: mirandizing underwear man?

cmsinaz on February 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM

oohh, the Boss Lady is on Hannity tonight.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Looks like Obie’s little “dealing with terrorism” problem is not going away.

Dire Straits on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 PM

In my never humble opinon, Obama and his crowd thought that the whole closing Gitmo rhetoric WAS all they needed to deal with terrorism. Once in power, they are finding the reality is far different than campaign sloganeering. They are caught between their statements and the reality of leading when one party has complete control of the agenda.

highhopes on February 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Only 59%?

Jaibones on February 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Holder must go.

Then Obama.

Who picked the fool.

profitsbeard on February 10, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Add Janet Napolitano to da list. What she has done in AZ borders on sedition.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:13 PM

And for some inexplicable reason,a certain amount
would like to have the terrorists shot by a firing
squad!

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM

firing squad!

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM

Volunteering?

publiuspen on February 10, 2010 at 9:16 PM

And for some inexplicable reason,a certain amount
would like to have the terrorists shot by a firing
squad!

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM

Black Jack Pershing?

I think it was an urban legend.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Holder must go.

Then Obama.

Who picked the fool.

profitsbeard on February 10, 2010 at 9:07 PM
———————————————–
Add Janet Napolitano to da list. What she has done in AZ borders on sedition.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Geochelone: I say terminate the entire Administration!!:)

Through the ballot box,or lit torchs and tar
sticky stuff:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:20 PM

As the left said during Bush’s terms the polls are what we should live by. Remember what they said about American’s views during the war(of course they only pointed it out when support soured). President Obama listen to the people.

CWforFreedom on February 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:13 PM

As long as she isn’t allowed to come back to Arizona I’m fine with her being added to the list. In fact the entire administration needs to be shipped off to the ex-bread basket of Africa to live for at least a decade. Maybe then they will learn first hand what their policies due to a nation.

chemman on February 10, 2010 at 9:27 PM

This is only one of many polls that show that the voters are truly questioning Obama’s readiness to lead.

This is the worst, though.

People definitely don’t feel safe with him.

AnninCA on February 10, 2010 at 9:27 PM

And for some inexplicable reason,a certain amount
would like to have the terrorists shot by a firing
squad!

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM
——————————————
Black Jack Pershing?

I think it was an urban legend.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:18 PM

ted c: Your close,Black Jack Shalack!
=========================================

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bonanzabunny.png

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:28 PM

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:20 PM

The Grim Reaper has cast a cold ashen eye upon the darkened soul of the Marxist Messiah and will soon exact a woeful blight of vengeance on his corporeal existence.

And so it is written; and so it will be done.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

This is only one of many polls that show that the voters are truly questioning Obama’s readiness to lead.

This is the worst, though.

People definitely don’t feel safe with him.

AnninCA on February 10, 2010 at 9:27 PM

No, the voters are no longer questioning his ability to lead—they’re answering the question themselves and it’s a big fat NO.
VA–no
NJ–No
MA–No, really
Novermber—HELL NO!

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:28 PM

hehehe!! Blaque…Jacques…Shaloque

memories.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Volunteering?

publiuspen on February 10, 2010 at 9:16 PM

publiuspen: Yes,I have a score to settle,however,I prefer
the terrorists from Afghanistan first!

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

prophecy.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Yes,I have a score to settle,however,I prefer
the terrorists from Afghanistan first!

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:31 PM

the ones in Iraq have cologne and smell better. The ones in Afghanistan effing reek.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Hey! MM is on Hannity talking about Obama’s epic fail on the NLRB Becker dude.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:33 PM

hey
lets have a trial in my basement

The Honorable Blatant Blue will preside

“yo, biatch — yo did some bad sh!t up there”

“Smithers…..release the hounds..”

blatantblue on February 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:28 PM
—————————————–
hehehe!! Blaque…Jacques…Shaloque

memories.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:31 PM

ted c: Ya no kidding,did I ever dream that I would mingle
in Black Jack and terrorists together,no way,but,
here we are,hehe:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Obama has tried and tried to tell us that 1+1=3 and we just are not getting his point.

jukin on February 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Ya no kidding,did I ever dream that I would mingle
in Black Jack and terrorists together,no way,but,
here we are,hehe:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

All that we ever needed to know about life we could’ve learned from Looney Tunes.

Lessons.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:36 PM

The Honorable Blatant Blue will preside

“yo, biatch — yo did some bad sh!t up there”

“Smithers…..release the hounds..”

blatantblue on February 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Justice.+2

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:37 PM

hey
lets have a trial in my basement

The Honorable Blatant Blue will preside

“yo, biatch — yo did some bad sh!t up there”

“Smithers…..release the hounds..”

blatantblue on February 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

blatantblue: Ah..Mr.Burns,you going to write that chegue..

Smitheres when pigs fly,or terrorists are shot

PIG FLYS BY,,,,,,, ah..Mr.Burns,no…no..I do not think so.

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Hey! MM is on Hannity talking about Obama’s epic fail on the NLRB Becker dude.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:33 PM

He’s going to do one of those “recess appointments” to get him on the team.

But Dr. K gave a great little speech about how Harry Reid blocked Bush from doing the same thing.

I hope the GOP heard it.

Knucklehead on February 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM

All that we ever needed to know about life we could’ve learned from Looney Tunes.

Lessons.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:36 PM

ted c: Yup,and esop fables!

Trying to think what cartoon that was run with!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Only 59%?

Jaibones on February 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM

x 1000!
.
WTF? I could see 16-20%, the uber-whacked-out liberal left, but 41%?!!!? Kinda depressing.

JeffVader on February 10, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

prophecy.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Self fulfilling prophecy.

I was channeling the ghost of Nostradamus. An irrevocable hex has now been put on barry in the best traditions of the medieval soothsayers and clairvoyants. Some of my peeps live in the spirit world. Comes in handy sometimes. :)

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:43 PM

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:20 PM
———————————————-
The Grim Reaper has cast a cold ashen eye upon the darkened soul of the Marxist Messiah and will soon exact a woeful blight of vengeance on his corporeal existence.

And so it is written; and so it will be done.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Geochelone: OHhhhhhhhhh I like,poetry,and that sounds like
a great opening to a bed time story,hehe!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:44 PM

Self fulfilling prophecy.

I was channeling the ghost of Nostradamus. An irrevocable hex has now been put on barry in the best traditions of the medieval soothsayers and clairvoyants. Some of my peeps live in the spirit world. Comes in handy sometimes. :)

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Geochelone: Well,2012 approaches,work your magic on planet
X,or is it Planet Pelosi!!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Some of my peeps live in the spirit world. Comes in handy sometimes. :)

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:43 PM

*note to self*

Dont’ piss off Geo. :)

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Come on, Hot Air! Rubio’s only $80K away.

Spread the word!

John the Libertarian on February 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:20 PM

———————————————-
The Grim Reaper has cast a cold ashen eye upon the darkened soul of the Marxist Messiah and will soon exact a woeful blight of vengeance on his corporeal existence.

And so it is written; and so it will be done.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Geochelone: OHhhhhhhhhh I like,poetry,and that sounds like
a great opening to a bed time story,hehe!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:44 PM

The END is nigh upon us.
Doom cloaks the heavenly vault,
a putrid Myst shrouds the land
and gathers in the fractured hollows.
The word falls into shadow ever more.

And they lived happily ever after.
THE END.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM

I never understood this debate, unless we’re actually saying that the military is unfair and has no standards of justice.

That’s actually the position that this administration has taken, which is really ridiculous now that he’s commander in chief.

That’s the junk of the “out” party.

AnninCA on February 10, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Hey! MM is on Hannity talking about Obama’s epic fail on the NLRB Becker dude.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:33 PM

ted c:Am I on the same show,Hannity has the Great American
Panel on,with Red Eye whats his name!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM

ted c:Am I on the same show,Hannity has the Great American
Panel on,with Red Eye whats his name!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM

greg gutfeld.

Are you on the same show? Wha… Penny Lee?

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Ohhhh. yeah MM was on about 15-20 min ago.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:54 PM

The END is nigh upon us.
Doom cloaks the heavenly vault,
a putrid Myst shrouds the land
and gathers in the fractured hollows.
The word falls into shadow ever more.

And they lived happily ever after.
THE END.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Geochelone: Sweet,heres your reward,hehe!!:)
==========================================
THE RAVEN – EDGAR ALLAN POE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcbWkMvMHrU&feature=PlayList&p=626D8B35704DEB91&index=17

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:55 PM

I never understood this debate, unless we’re actually saying that the military is unfair and has no standards of justice.

That’s actually the position that this administration has taken, which is really ridiculous now that he’s commander in chief.

That’s the junk of the “out” party.

AnninCA on February 10, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Know what? That’s a good point. So savvy of you to see it.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 9:56 PM

I never understood this debate, unless we’re actually saying that the military is unfair and has no standards of justice.
AnninCA on February 10, 2010 at 9:50 PM

No, they’re elevating their church of the high court. Second, they’re putting GWB and Dick Cheney on trial. It is not that the military commissions are fair or unfair, it’s the fact that these folks think opposition to the civilian trials equates to us thinking that we don’t trust our own court systems, not true.

enemy combatants= enemy.
Military commissions= congressionally directed legal jurisdiction specifically designed for enemy combatants in 2006
civilian courts=not for enemy combatants who threaten US civilian population.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:57 PM

greg gutfeld.

Are you on the same show? Wha… Penny Lee?

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

ted c: Same page,er channel!

Sometimes,depending where one is in what State,
might be a different time,and thats why I asked!!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:58 PM

John the Libertarian on February 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Done again. You guys are killing me and I hope the favor is returned when I start spamming up the threads for money for Kirk in Illinois.

I know, I know, but he’s the best we’ve got at this point.

Knucklehead on February 10, 2010 at 9:59 PM

night homeys.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Ohhhh. yeah MM was on about 15-20 min ago.

ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:54 PM

ted c:Then I missed MM,d*mmit!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Goodnight Ted,sweet dreams:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Geochelone: Sweet,heres your reward,hehe!!:)
==========================================
THE RAVEN – EDGAR ALLAN POE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcbWkMvMHrU&feature=PlayList&p=626D8B35704DEB91&index=17

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Throw some Alan Parsons Project as us dude. Nice. I had that album. In the mood to feel gloomy? Read The Fall of the House of Usher; pretty much anything by Poe serves that need, if you can call it a need. I dig Poe. Got his entire compendium. Trippy guy he was. To bad he died so young.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Throw some Alan Parsons Project as us dude. Nice. I had that album. In the mood to feel gloomy? Read The Fall of the House of Usher; pretty much anything by Poe serves that need, if you can call it a need. I dig Poe. Got his entire compendium. Trippy guy he was. To bad he died so young.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Geochelone:Now,what are the odds,that you liked Alan Parsons Project and Edgar Allen Poe,spooky a bit me
thinks!!

Eye in the Sky is good!!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM

But voters approve 52 – 42 percent of the FBI’s advice to the suspect of his right to remain silent.

WTF? Who’s getting polled?

The only thing I would have approved for this guy is the baseball bat that should have been shoved up his a** to get him to talk.

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Eye in the Sky is good!!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Thanks for triggering flash backs to my stoned recollections of yesteryear.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM

Americans have as solid a consensus on this question as on any political question of the day — and the Obama administration is operating well outside of it.

There’s no way the GOP can fumble this…is there?

Bruno Strozek on February 10, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Who are these pople?

publiuspen on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 PM

The same kind of dolts who want to give hardened juvenile offenders the “cookies and milk” treatment.

Dark-Star on February 10, 2010 at 10:45 PM

As with all polling, this poll merely gives the sense of the American people when it comes to the issue of how to handle terrorists from a rule of law point of view. The good news is that the American people have an excellent sense of self-preservation and appear to agree that there is a distinction between national security and law enforcement, and that the law enforcement model is a lousy way to defend the country from acts of war. The bad news is that it is only a sense and not a true understanding of the actual law, as evidenced by the majority approving of the Mirandizing of a foreign national captured during an unsuccessful act of war against the United States on behalf of a declared enemy of the United States.

When the FBI Mirandized the Christmas Day Bomber, this Administration told him that he had the “right” to remain silent and the “right” to an attorney when the Supreme Court has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER so held under these circumstances. The key is whether the attempt to blow the plane out of the air is an act of war or a mere crime. If an act of war, then the law of war applies and the war powers of the President kick in, and there is no crime to prosecute that implicates any of the rights protected by the Bill of Rights. Even the Supreme Court majority in Boumediene (sp?) acknowledged that the initial determination of whether to hold a detainee as a criminal defendant or an unlawful enemy combatant was that of the Executive Branch, with the Judiciary exercising habeas jurisdiction for the sole purpose of permitting the terrorist to challenge the designation at a later time, when the implications of the detainee’s actions concerning matters of national security would not place the Judiciary in the position of interfering with the President’s conduct of the war.

Applied to the Christmas Day Bomber, who doubts that his attempt to blow his flight out of the air over Detroit was an act of was, especially when he identified himself as affiliated with AQ. The default position was that he attempted an act of war, not a crime, and that his detention would be a matter of national security, not law enforcement.

Indeed, at the time of his arrest and initial interrogation, we didn’t even know if he was merely the tip of the spear or the entire spear. Was his attempt merely one of many contemporaneous attacks, like the original Bojinka plot, or was he the only one scheduled to blow himself up that day? Fifty minutes of interrogation could not have disclosed that information. Recall, within the 50 minutes between the first tower of the World Trade Center getting hit and Flight 77 plowing into the Pentagon, we lost three planes and barely had any concept of what was happening. Yet, nothing in the manner of how this Administration handled the Christmas Day Bomber indicates that they even considered the possibility of other planes exploding in our airspace. In this context, telling the Christmas Day Bomber he had the “right” to remain silent and the “right” to counsel was not merely a mistake, but an incredibly dangerous deriliction of duty.

The President should have been informed immediately and, as Commander-in-Chief, ordered the Christmas Day Bomber to be interrogated until those responsible for national security satisfied themselves that there was no imminent threat of further attack, even if this meant withholding all but life-saving medical treatment (since a dead detainee cannot provide actionable intelligence). In the event, none of the heads of our national security agencies were even consulted and it is not even clear that the President was properly informed of the need to make this critical call before the Attorney General, on his own authority, designated this attack as a law enforcement matter and ordered the Bomber Mirandized to facilitate his eventual prosecution as a criminal defendant. In other words, when faced with the very ticking time bomb scenario even some on the Left trot out as an example of when they might, hypothetically, condone enhanced interrogation, the Attorney General of the United States was not concerned about the hundreds, possibly thousands of other Americans who may have faced obliteration in our friendly skies, but with interpreting the Constitution in a manner reasonably calculated to impair our ability to defend against further, possibly imminent attack.

The impairment persists.

Would a majority of Americans really agree that it was appropriate to Mirandize the Christmas Day Bomber if they understood that this decision may have prevented us from defending against further attack the very same day? Would a majority of Americans really agree it was appropriate if they understood that, even now, the decision impairs our ability to glean actionable intelligence from the Bomber that may prevent a future attack?

The Administration’s current spin is, essentially, “No harm. No foul.” “See, the Bomber is cooperating and we didn’t suffer any more casualties. Paraphrasing former SecDef Rumsfield, how can we possibly know there’s been no harm, when we don’t know what we don’t know? for example, having been Mirandized and provided with counsel, how can we evaluate the quality of any intelligence the Bomber provides, especially after five weeks of silence? Can we question him using counterintelligence obtained from other confidential sources if the questions themselves would reveal the probable source of such information not only to the Bomber, but to his attorney? Anyone remember Lynne Stewart, who forwarded on such information to AQ resulting in bin Ladin throwing his cell phone away so we could no longer track him. Either the interrogations currently ongoing are inherently impaired because our interrogators are not asking every possible question for fear of giving away confidential sources or they are asking the questions anyway and possibly providing AQ with invaluable intelligence that will make it harder for us to defend ourselves in the future.

Compare this with declaring the Bomber an unlawful enemy combatant, shipping him to Gitmo for secure interrogation, possibly enhanced, providing him with a JAG lawyer sworn to maintain the national security secrets of the country, and trying him in front of a military tribunal, the members of which swear the same oath.

The heads of our national security agencies just testified that an attack on this country by AQ is “certain” in the next three to six months. If such an attack occurs, and if the planners and implementers of the attack are traced back to Yemen, and if information that could have been gleaned from the Bomber was not because his lawyer would not approve or his interrogation would have revealed confidential sources, or if his interrogation revealed to AQ what they needed to know to make the attack successful, then the decision to Mirandize the Christmas Day Bomber cannot be characterized as anything short of impeachable misconduct on the part of the Administration. Whether Congress ultimately holds the AG or the President responsible, it will have been the President who failed in his duty to the country. I see no evidence that he even understands the danger his decision to leave the decision to his lawyers has created for ordinary Americans. All I see are “above the fray” excuses and spin control, none of which will help him or his Administration when the country begins the painful process of counting the cost of his current deriliction.

Mongo Mere Pawn on February 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Thanks for triggering flash backs to my stoned recollections of yesteryear.

Geochelone on February 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM

Geochelone: Oh da horror,haha:)

canopfor on February 11, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Who are these 41% that don’t know their head from a hole in the ground? Dude!

Mojave Mark on February 11, 2010 at 1:10 AM

Obama and his group of cronies are obviously not interested in listening to the will of the American people. But the people in this administration will hear all of us in November. And you can take that to the bank!

galvestonian on February 11, 2010 at 2:03 AM

Who are these 41% that don’t know their head from a hole in the ground? Dude!

Mojave Mark on February 11, 2010 at 1:10 AM

The ones ACORN drove to the polls. They wonder if Obama is still President, or if his term is over yet. Because they don’t understand about the four-year thing.

Really sad. But oh so true.

Grace_is_sufficient on February 11, 2010 at 5:55 AM

Agreed, try em under military tribunals, and incarcerate them as military POW’s.

Just because they do not wear a military uniform does not make them disgruntled civilians.

Libs never having served in the military do not understand that the enemy use this tactic to get exactly what the libs are giving them – a sympathetic free ride. The current generation of libs living through the Vietnam conflict did not see the enemy because that is what they wanted U.S. to see, nothing but G.I’s killing civilians.

Just a reminder, if you were looking for a person in uniform to fight, when a 12 year old Vietnamese boy in Black Pajama’s reveals his AK-47 from under his PJs, you are just as dead as if the he was in uniform and you were too slow in reacting.

MSGTAS on February 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM

59% is neither a “wide majority” nor a “solid consensus”. It is better than 35% but there are a lot of undecideds in those numbers. Also, I would like to know how strong the opinions of those 59% are.

This statistic is more reassuring, however:

Voters say 68 – 25 percent that terrorism suspects should not receive all of the constitutional protections afforded by a civilian trial.

JackOfClubs on February 11, 2010 at 4:00 PM