CBS: Obama’s bipartisanship call is really demand for GOP surrender
posted at 8:48 am on February 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The only thing surprising about this analysis of Barack Obama’s call for bipartisanship is that it comes from CBS — although the reporter, Mark Knoller, has quietly become a good read in the White House press corps. Knoller gives a biting report on Obama’s actual intentions and the desperation leading to it, but it won’t really come as shocking news to anyone in the GOP. The Democratic definition of bipartisanship has been the same since Bill Clinton demanded it for his own government takeover of health care:
It was more a plaintive plea than a political observation. His top legislative priorities are going nowhere and he’s searching for a way to get them out of lockup.
In this 13th month of his presidency, he’s anxious to pass a jobs bill and be seen addressing an unemployment rate that only last week declined from double digits. And his efforts to enact bills on energy, financial regulatory reform and especially health care are stuck in Congress despite the solid majority his party holds in both chambers.
He’s appealing for a spirit of bipartisanship – urging Democrats and Republicans alike “to put aside matters of party for the good of the country.” …
Mr. Obama said he “won’t hesitate to embrace a good idea from my friends in the minority party.” But he wants his way. He wants his energy policy enacted along with his jobs bill, his financial regulatory reform and his health care plan.
And if the opposition continues to block his objectives, he said he “won’t hesitate to condemn what I consider to be obstinacy that’s rooted not in substantive disagreement but in political expedience.”
When a sitting president calls for bipartisanship by the opposition – he really means surrender. And if they block his proposals, its “obstinacy” and not political views they hold as strongly as he holds his.
At one point in his analysis, Knoller mentions that the first President Bush made the same kind of call in 1990, but Knoller forgets to mention that Bush actually followed through on his claim to bipartisanship to enact a tax hike Democrats demanded. Bush had promised during the 1988 presidential campaign that he would follow in Ronald Reagan’s footsteps and not increase taxes (although Reagan did sign a tax hike), using the phrase “Read my lips — no new taxes!” What was Bush’s reward for that bipartisanship? Democrats used that clip in commercial after commercial in 1992 to call Bush a liar, even though they had demanded it from him.
For Democrats, the definition of bipartisanship has always been Republican surrender. That was true in 1990, and it was true in 1992, and it’s still true today. The surprise here isn’t the intent of Obama to use bipartisanship to bulldozer GOP opposition to his agenda, but that the media finally reports it as such — and perhaps especially at CBS.









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Failure. F-
OmahaConservative on February 10, 2010 at 8:51 AM
CBS? Do I hear the sound of ice breaking… even just a small crack?
petefrt on February 10, 2010 at 8:51 AM
Knoller likely reads the trades and understands that Fox is succeeding for a reason. There’s a market for reporters who actually tell the truth about this administration.
Mr. D on February 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM
FUBO
CPT. Charles on February 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM
Also remember — CBS once employed Bernard Goldberg.
Mr. D on February 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM
BO’s plea is like a wolf in sheep’s clothing for the Repubs. I just hope that the RINO’s won’t want fold.
jbh45 on February 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM
Of course he means surrender. Thank God someone in the msm is willing to say it.
Even if the GOP got one thing they wanted, it would be such a blow to Obama and his backers thet it would render the whole thing a failure to the left.
Bipartisan means sit down and shut up.
ORconservative on February 10, 2010 at 8:55 AM
translation: bend over and grab your ankles
ted c on February 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM
Fact: he’s been hesitating since he began this boondoggle. Not only hesitating, but flat out refusing.
ted c on February 10, 2010 at 8:57 AM
I won…
right2bright on February 10, 2010 at 8:57 AM
D’oh!
drjohn on February 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM
CBS? I’m…flabbergasted.
Unemployment dropped to the single digits? Really?
Guardian on February 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Pretty surprising. Now, of course, this one article will be used to show that the MSM is not left-leaning.
Mord on February 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Are you listening Juan McAmnesty? Lindsey Graham? John Boehner?
angryed on February 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Will you kiss me, Mr. Obama?
petefrt on February 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Rush is right. The Republicans should pull a George Jones.
No-show. Each of the 3 old networks used to have reporters that had some integrity. But that is not a sought-after quality in TV reporters anymore, except at Fox News.
kingsjester on February 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM
They must’ve heard Andrew Breitbart on Saturday night.
Messages.
ted c on February 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM
I Republicans attend this charade, they should all go in wearing soap-on-a-rope around their necks.
BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM
Which is why Democrats are scum.
drjohn on February 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM
So, have Knoller and Tapper decided the title “fluffer” just doesn’t suit them?
SKYFOX on February 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM
9.8% or something like that.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM
Keep the pressure on people. Don’t. Let. Them. Cave!
Chewy the Lab on February 10, 2010 at 9:01 AM
This guy has clearly always gotten his way. Now he’s acting like a little 4 year old that doesn’t get what he wants. How long is it before we hear him say “Nuh Uh” or “I’m Telling Mom” or some other comment usually heard at my son’s daycare center????
search4truth on February 10, 2010 at 9:01 AM
Perhaps why Israel does not trust Mideast envoy and former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:01 AM
Anyone who doesn’t see this “call for bipartisanship” for what it really is- “Do it my way”, hasn’t been paying attention for the last 13 months.
anniekc on February 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM
So when are you going to take your ball and go home zero. Only your bully friends still want you to be captain.
chemman on February 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM
Color me skeptical. CBS is going through a round of massive layoffs. This is resume padding nothing more.
meci on February 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM
It’s not like this is news to anyone. The Democrat definition of bipartisanship has always been for the GOP to cave. I don’t understand why Obama thinks the Republicans will give in now though. We’re less than 9 months away from the midterms and they stand to make huge gains in both houses. They’re not gonna jeopardize that.
Doughboy on February 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM
Odamna’s Philosophy: Say what they want to hear. Do whatever the heck you want. The man does not understand our nation, our heritage, our culture or our values. His claims to be a Constitutional scholar are rooted in revisionism because he deems the Constitution to be a “living” document. He does not understand the concept of American exceptionalism. He is dedicated to taking from those who actually produce and giving to those who do not. When will we, as a nation, understand that this man wants to make us over into Il Duce’s Italy? I weep for my nation.
Crusader Rabbit on February 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM
Like lambs to the slaughter Cantor and co will willingly give the great Pretender his wish.The Republicans have the whip hand , why give the fool the excuse to whip you and in public.
Republicans=SURRENDER=Third Party
Sandybourne on February 10, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Seriously, if Republicans attend at all, they should get Obama on the record now about his objections to their supposed non-proposals that have been out their for months.
The public has soundly rejected the existing Democratic bills, and the Democrats–absent reconciliation–can’t even pass a bill out of both houses.
It’s time for Obama to put up or shut up in advance of the dog-and-pony show.
BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Depends on your definition of “good idea”
drjohn on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM
So what’s the latest pool ‘top pick’ for when the GOP caves?
It couldn’t be more obvious what is going on, well unless you are the GOP Congressional leadership.
I wonder, will Collins, Snowe or McCain be the first?
tarpon on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM
Apparently, to CBS, the Precedent’s appeal for “bipartisanship” appears somewhat less genuine than certain National Guard documents.
Doorgunner on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM
The public is not going to go for a second stimulus bill. It will be the end of the administration if he gets it.
The fact is that the public understands that these bills basically keep overbloated state governments puffed up, their salaries growing, and doesn’t do a darn thing for the private sector.
AnninCA on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM
Wow … CBS? Really?
Obama will surely illuminate the SEIU Thug bat signal and have Mark Knoller pounded into dust.
Hide Mark … hide!
darwin on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM
The real question is: would Obama respect you in the morning?
OldEnglish on February 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM
Why does the term “grasping at straws” come to mind.
He’s losing it.
gophergirl on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Obama is a petulant President.
kingsjester on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM
But Michelle says that his first year has been phenomenal?
Laura Bush said back last fall that she thinks that Obama is doing a good job.
These political geniuses can’t be wrong can they?
GOP…..EMBRACE BIPARTISANSHIP….And screw yourself out of Congressional Control in 2011.
PappyD61 on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Hopefully BO continues down the path he has chosen. It’s certain destruction for the Democrats in November and no amount of denial will change that scenario.
This is truly a train wreck in progress.
jdflorida on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM
I don’t recall Tapper ever being much of an Obama cheerleader. It was amazing that ABC would let him report as he dhas on Obama, given the rest of ABC (Gibson, Sawyer) being Obama cheerleaders. Tapper was apparently too good of a journalist to transfer or muzzle.
Knoller is a surprise. Perhaps trying to regain some shred of credibility.
When Andrea Mitchell starts getting this critical hell will be like the current state of Philly – frozen over.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Absolutely. Obama is lying again – he’s already had a full year to listen if he had wanted to.
He’s also throwing out the “I don’t want another year of partisan wrangling” straw man. The bill was stopped because the 81 vote Democrat majority in the House couldn’t pass the same radical set of ideas as the 20 vote Democrat majority in the Senate. Republican had nothing to do with it.
forest on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM
Only because an awful lot of people gave up. 20,000 more jobs were lost.
drjohn on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM
What the Dimwit-in-Chief fails to understand is that it’s all about the policy disagreements. Resistance from the people (and by proxy, their representatives, in most cases) arises from these disagreements. BHO did in fact give the country a clear choice, and we are rejecting it.
WordsMatter on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM
Heh.
Gop: “I like to be kissed when somebody is doing sex to me!”
Guardian on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM
annica: i disagree: many Republicans are making positive noises about a “jobs” bill. Other than cutting taxes, what can Congress do to create a private sector job?
kelley in virginia on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM
FIRST CAVE ON THE GOP SIDE?
Cantor…….it already happened.
Next up?
PappyD61 on February 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM
Only if you believe that while 20,000 jobs were lost somehow they found 541,000 jobs that had been under counted on previous reports. You know that saying about statistics.
.
chemman on February 10, 2010 at 9:07 AM
I agree but I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
SKYFOX on February 10, 2010 at 9:10 AM
“bipartisanship!’ It must be an election year.
DJ from MA on February 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM
Any Republican that takes a step toward Obamunism is screwed.
Every penny the government has comes from business. Every penny. The government can’t create anything, least wise a job.
Mojave Mark on February 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM
Don’t believe any unemployment statistics unless they include the “discouraged workers” who have stopped looking for a job which the statistics never do.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM
Barack Obama is a demon sheep.
SouthernGent on February 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM
The man behind the curtain is wearing invisible clothes?
MarkTheGreat on February 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM
What a freakin’ Chicago thug. Psst…seen your poll numbers lately, Biff, looks like the American public has already begun condemning you.
RepubChica on February 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM
The GOP needs to boycott his stupid meeting. This guy is going to do nothing but throw out veiled threats and underhanded insults at them. It’s BS and all he is attempting to do is make the GOP look like the party of no. Well, if they are going to be called that time and time again then “f” it. Don’t go.
The only problem with that is….Obama would have no problem speaking to an empty room as long as cameras are involved.
milwife88 on February 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM
This bolded remark is what irks me most about ObaMao’s hubris. He defines what he perceives the opposition to be and then blathers to that strawman talking point. He tunes out “substantive disagreement” because he chooses not to accept it as substantive. He could be hit over the head with historic, economic, or scientific facts, but he rejects or dismisses them because they do not conform to his mindset, not because the facts are invalid.
He projects motives to the opposition that are more aptly descriptive of his own and his party’s motives.
ObaMao should be hit and hit hard with facts that he cannot refute with “golden” gobbledygook.
onlineanalyst on February 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM
Obama is craving validation from the left. Since they give him less affirmation, he wants to gather the Republicans and scold them into giving him affirmation.
seven on February 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM
Lefties use ‘bipartsanship’ the same way they use other charged words, like ‘racist’ and ‘homophobe’, as rhetorical tools to produce the intended effect without regard for traditional meaning. It intimidates us while asserting for them the high moral ground.
petefrt on February 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM
If 60-40 and 275-178 wasn’t enough, maybe it’s time to rethink your agenda.
Especially when you factor in how many Congress critters with the (R) love to cross the aisle.
Nancy and Harry, the most imcompetent Congress, evah!
reaganaut on February 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM
The Republicans should respond to B.O.’s demand for bipartisanship with a massive group Bronx cheer.
pilamaye on February 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM
after he’s engineered a year of partisan wrangling…..
ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM
Sen. DeMint was on Bill Bennett’s show this morning. He says when the president invites you to meet with him, you can’t decline but my understanding is that unless Mr. Obama agrees to start over and make changes incrementally their will only be token attendance. They appear to be thinking this through.
Cindy Munford on February 10, 2010 at 9:19 AM
Meh.
Agree to a live TV summit, and then just send Breitbart and Steyn in there to demolish him.
mudskipper on February 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM
Its all about setting up the Democrats 2010 campaign theme: Republicans bad and unreasonable; Democrats good and reasonable and working for the best for all. Therefore the country needs more Democrats in 2010 elections.
albill on February 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Too late, CBS, to save yourselves. Sure. Now you start telling both sides of the story, but only to save your ratings. I look forward to the day when youngsters ask, “C.B.S.? What’s that?”
ROCnPhilly on February 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Boehner, Ryan and Cantor need to get out there and do a full up summary of the President’s last year on this issue. They should fully clarify what has gone on, how many meetings they’ve been shut out of, how they’ve been demonized, with all the specifics–numbers, dates and all of it.
They should end with the definition of bipartisanship and what it means in the context of this upcoming meeting. The demands, up front, ought to be clear. They should not simply “hope” that, going into this, that the POTUS or Dem congress is going to be any different than previously.
The rules need to be published ahead of time–to include a) if there is any strawman mischaracterizing of Republican positions, then Republicans will walk away b) minimum criteria for a bipartisan bill include not less than 40 Republican votes (any less and it’s “partisan”) and c) tort reform includes x, y and z with regards to healthcare reform.
Hardball.
ted c on February 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM
If CBS ever wanted to be considered a serious news organization, they’d have to get rid of Katie Couric for a start.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM
I trust DeMint. I think the GOP knows what they are doing.
gophergirl on February 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM
Wow! You mean to tell me that CBS actually got one right? Wow!
GFW on February 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM
After Brown won in MA, I think a lot of people–politicians, reporters, voters, former supporters–realized the “emperor has no clothes” and are starting to say it. No surprise we read that someone from even CBS calls it straight; yesterday it was USA Today about Brenner. Cracks in the dike, cracks in the dike.
DrStock on February 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM
Bipartisan…I will look like I’m listening if there is a camera around,if not,your ideas suck.
Let’s hope the gop understands the little guy like we do.
ohiobabe on February 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM
Obama is like General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna sitting on his horse outside the Alamo, demanding surrender of the rebel contingent.
He has the superior force, but it’s dwindling by the day.
“What’s wrong with these people, don’t they know I have the superior force?
“Surrender”!!
Spit flies over the wall. Remember the Alamo!!
donh525 on February 10, 2010 at 9:26 AM
You forgot the “black”.
txhsmom on February 10, 2010 at 9:26 AM
My 15yo son came in last night and told me that Iran is doing something tomorrow and trying to hit the Vatican or Tel Aviv. (not news to me but hadn’t told him and don’t know where the Vatican came from)
I think Washington has bigger problems this week than fighting in the sandbox.
ORconservative on February 10, 2010 at 9:26 AM
Right… “Big Bro” can stick his demands where the sun don’t shine.
ErinF on February 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM
True, but he hesitates on everything. I liked Obama’s comments about how he normally gives in to Michelle. I think that was an open, honest moment that was really believable.
I’m sure Iran, Al Qaeda, the NOrks and China found his plea for cooperation refreshingly consistent with Obama’s foreign policy stance. The President doesn’t wear the pants in THOSE relationships, either.
hawksruleva on February 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM
Maybe they should look toward Texas and read the tea leaves. Having an R behind your name will not guarantee your election or re-election. Either stand up for what the people want or find another line of work, if you can.
Kissmygrits on February 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM
The rules need to be published ahead of time–
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I thought that was the purpose of the letter that was sent.They outlined what they wanted to discuss.It has been laid out.
ohiobabe on February 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM
OT but important!
sonnyspats1 on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 AM
They’re like the Muslims, who always claim people are “disrespecting” Islam simply by not believing in it and its taboos. Adherents of both those ideologies can go to hell.
Careful with that threat, Obama, it might require you to actually name names and not just throw your usual strawman “Some say…” out there.
venividivici on February 10, 2010 at 9:30 AM
More empty posturing from ObaMao. He decides what is a good idea (usually through subjective criteria). His definition for this determination? That’s a good (or bad) idea…because it’s a good (or bad) idea. He offers as “proof” for his judgments (opinions) even more opinions. At other times, he just makes up statistics, which no one challenges or refutes. He uses vague claims to authorities as his sources or wisdom but dismisses pointed, credible authorities that have opposing ideas. He relies on emotional anecdotes in order to manipulate, but even those anecdotes are false or doctored narratives.
ObaMao’s thinking have very little depth. He embraces the ideology of a naive freshman in a college bull session.
onlineanalyst on February 10, 2010 at 9:31 AM
Cantor will be the first to betray the GOP. What is the guy doing in the leadership?
True_King on February 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM
The tactics, while not new, are designed simply to appease US. We’ve been demanding a place at the discussion table and Obama won’t even let us in the damned room!
Now he’s saying “OK, that win in Massachusetts convinced me; you can come in the room now and I’ll listen to what you have to say. Then, if what you have to say isn’t exactly what I want to hear, I’m going to scream ‘obstruction’ and ram it through anyway…Because I Won!”
GoldenEagle4444 on February 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM
I recall that time all too well, which is why the Pubs should politely decline Obow’s invitation. I’m just shocked someone at CBS called Obow’s tactics right. Then again, this is the third time in in about a month CBS has done some authentic journalism the way it was meant to be practiced.
Health Control is Obow’s signature issue. If he fails with it, given the large Dem majorities he has in Congress, he’ll be almost useless to his own Party for the remainder of his term.
Partisanship–the way to save our Republic.
Liam on February 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Let’s not get our hopes up, I’m sure the Republican leadership will once again miss an opportunity to tell the Dem’s to pound sand…
TheAudacityofNOPE on February 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM
I mostly stopped listening to all the WH reporters–even the so-called better ones are enamored about being at the WH (perhaps it was a childhood dream.) But it wasn’t too hard to detect that Knoller hadn’t fallen head-over-heels in love with Obama like the others did. I suppose one or two more will come out of the closet soon. In any case, very good job this time by Mark Knoller, and precisely the line Boehner should have used.
JiangxiDad on February 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Friends? If he has friends in the minority party, they are no friends of mine!
donh525 on February 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM
One Act, One Scene on 25-Feb-2009:
GOP: What do you wish to discuss?
T’Won: What would it take for you to vote for my health care reform bill?
GOP: YOU do not have a health care reform bill; Pelosi and Reid have bills. Both bills are flawed beyond resurrection; there’s nothing to discuss conceding them. Why don’t we discuss what must be done to revive the economy and get people back to work?
T’Won: I insist that we discuss how to pass my health care reform bill.
GOP: You’re not listening. The bills are dead and despised by the public. The economy is of greater concern to them; let’s discuss that.
T’Won: The economy is failing because of health care costs; we must discuss my bill.
GOP: You are neither listening nor showing any sign that you intend to listen. Good day, sir. (they leave)
T’Won: B-b-but … I WON!
ya2daup on February 10, 2010 at 9:37 AM
As gophergirl noted, DeMint says you can’t turn down an invitation from the president. Protocol or tradition or something. But as DeMint said, they can just send token attendance.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:39 AM
YouTube parody: Walt Disney World Prepares Obama Audio-Animatronics Robot for Obama-Republican Health Care Forum: http://www.youtube.com/user/Optoons#p/u/0/79zIWm2ffiI
Mervis Winter on February 10, 2010 at 9:40 AM
I disagree with some of the posters about the GOP going to the meeting. I think they should, if they don’t, then Obama will be able to hang the party of no around their neck for the upcoming midterm. I know that it’s a phony charge, but remember, our country men elected this fool, and all many need is one sound bite to make up their mind.
I think they should go, but stick to their guns, make it clear that they had good ideas from the get go, make those fiscal conservative ideas known, and make it clear that bi-partisanship only became important after Massachusetts.
kam582 on February 10, 2010 at 9:42 AM
In other news, Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy and Jack “Abscam” Murtha have a snowball fight with Satan as the referee.
csdeven on February 10, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Thank you for the article. I emailed it to Bill Bennett.
Obviously everyone won’t agree but I do think they have a strategy. And they won’t embarrass their mothers by equalling the bad manners that are displayed by the Left on a daily basis.
Cindy Munford on February 10, 2010 at 9:48 AM
The Most Astute Adminstration of All time is on the Precipice of falling down into the Abyss. The Republicans need to give them a friendly shove on the shoulder, not throw them a rope. If they must attend for reasons of Protocol, fine. But they had better not roll over on command like a poodle with ribbons in its’ hair.
kingsjester on February 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM
The republicans need to work up a clear, concise agenda for this “summit” and they need to stick to the script.
The agenda should include:
CBO studies showing:
The true 10 year costs/savings of the current House Bill excluding promises of other bills to “fix” things dated to begin when the outlays begin.
The true 10 year costs/savings of the current Senate Bill excluding promises of other bills to “fix” things dated to begin when the outlays begin.
The true 10 costs/savings for any plans the Republicans have.
Itemized listings of all pork/bribes issued to all stakeholders to garner passage of the House/Senate bills.
A clear message that the American people are on the Republicans side on this and that no amount of browbeating, denigration or name-calling will weaken their resolve to oppose this ill-conceived disaster of a government take-over. Let’s start over and work together for real reform AFTER the economy recovers.
Perhaps most importantly, the Republicans should be allowed equal time and should have their own podium at which to speak. No more Big O pontificating from above. That was a huge mistake at the Republican retreat.
ROCnPhilly on February 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM
From a Politico article on why the WH press corps doesn’t laugh at Gibbsy’s jokes any more.
Perhaps the more critical comments from Knoller are a sign that some of the WH press corps are finally waking up and realized that they were just a bunch of tools with no crediiblity.
And of course, at the July presser, Obama made the “police acted stupidly” comment, so thr WH doesn’t dare let him go off teleprompter much.
Wethal on February 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM
It’s perception politics.
jediwebdude on February 10, 2010 at 9:51 AM
I wouldn’t be trumpeting that until the revisions are in.
Vashta.Nerada on February 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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