Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on February 8, 2010 by Allahpundit
“The Tea Partiers also say they want to empower ordinary folk against the privileged few. But who do they mean by “privileged few?” Unlike the original Populists, the Tea Partiers don’t mean moneyed interests. After all, while they oppose bailing out banks, they also oppose more aggressively regulating them. In fact, the Tea Party crowd wants less government oversight over Wall Street. As Tea Party Convention keynote speaker Sarah Palin declared a while back, ‘We got into this mess because of government interference in the first place.’
“By privileged few, in fact, the Tea Party crowd means government. The ordinary folks are the voters and the privileged few are the people who run Washington in disregard of their wishes. For the original Populists, the answer to this problem was more democracy: reforms that made Washington more responsive to voters and less responsive to moneyed interests. But the Tea Partiers have no interest in such reforms. They simply take it as a fact that Washington is unresponsive and self-interested. While the Populists wanted to empower government as they democratized it, the Tea Partiers want to disempower government because they don’t believe it can be democratized. And by disempowering government—by reducing its oversight of Wall Street, as Palin demanded at the Tea Party convention—the Tea Partiers actually strengthen the very moneyed interests that the Populists wanted to restrain.”
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“In other words, the American passion for absolute liberty isn’t too far removed from heedless adolescent rebellion. The ‘tea party’ faithful might as well be Marlon Brando in his black leather jacket in ‘The Wild One.’ ‘What are you rebelling against,’ a girl asks the smoldering Brando. ‘What’ve you got?’ he replies.
“So, yes, there are reasons to be suspicious of government, and yes, our yearning to be ‘masterless’ has created a culture that sends adventurers on the open road and pioneers looking for the next frontier. But it’s also making it increasingly difficult for government to function.
“I’m not unsympathetic to the argument that vigilance — protest, activism, anger — is the price of freedom. But with the national government in gridlock, I’m beginning to worry that our ‘don’t tread on me’ birthright has a deeper and darker cost.
“It’s not a matter of left or right. In my mind the only difference between 1960s leftist radicals and new millennium right-wing refuseniks is the length of their hair. They both have showed a desperate need to work through their issues with old King George.”
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“So now we have a country absolutely teeming with irregular passions and artful misrepresentations, whipped up to an unprecedented pitch and volume by the fundamentally new means of 24/7 cable and the hyperdemocratic web. And instead of a calm club of like-minded wise men (and women) in Washington compromising and legislating, we have a Republican Establishment almost entirely unwilling to defy or at least gracefully ignore its angriest, most intemperate and frenzied faction—the way Reagan did with his right wing in the eighties and the way Obama is doing with his unhappy left wing now. Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and their compatriots are ideologues who default to uncivil, unbudging, sky-is-falling recalcitrance, as Keith Olbermann does on the left. Fine; in free-speech America, that’s the way we roll. But the tea-party citizens are under the misapprehension that democratic governing is supposed to be the same as democratic discourse, that elected officials are virtuous to the extent that they too default to unbudging, sky-is-falling recalcitrance and refusal. And the elected officials, as never before, are indulging that populist fantasy.
“Just as the founders feared, American democracy has gotten way too democratic.”
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“Since the 60s, Democrats have been reluctant to wave the flag and are uncomfortable with anything that evokes the spirit of ’76. Words like ‘patriot’ and ‘minuteman’ unnerve them, not only because they have been co-opted by the right, but because they are used to christen nuclear weapons and vigilante groups along the Mexican border. And the ethnic monochromaticism of the Tea Party movement is equally abhorrent. Latinos and blacks are not invited to tea parties. Well, maybe as caterers.
“One of the things that helped get Obama elected was that he was really cool. This made Democrats feel cool. Tea Party types are not cool. But there are an awful lot of them out there. The Democrats thus find themselves in a bind. They cannot continue to cede the public stage to the Tea Partyers. They cannot simply sit back and do nothing. Maybe they should try torchlight parades. Or coffee claques. Perhaps even fistfights. But they better try something soon. Trouble’s a-brewin’.”
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Keep Protestin’, protestin’, protestin’
Though the Obamaites are disapprovin,
Keep that Tea a movin’
Soon there will be nowhere they can hide!
Come November they’ll be sinking far and wide
Their grand plans will be oh so sunk
And the Obamaites will all be in such a funk
When their leader looks like such a punk
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 1:39 AM
Exactly….
Watching liberals make fools out of themselves getting their panties all bunched up because Palin wrote a few crib notes and having to stop film to see if Chris Wallace rolled his eyes is beyond hilarious.
They criticize Palin for not being “deep enough” on the issues but then have no specific issues to bring up that she got wrong.
All they have is made up scandal of crib note writing and faux eye rolling.
Liberals spent weeks whining about the Tebow ad and after the ad runs,have selective,and idiotic outrage of supposed “abuse towards women” because Tebow was wrestling and laughing with his mother.
….Nothing to say about little old lady Betty White getting hammered in the snickers commercial.
Is this all liberals have got??????
Is this all they can come up with to whine and complain about after getting their butts handed to them in several recent elections,losing their filibuster proof majorities,and having their liberal Prince Obama push forward one failed policy after another.
….the liberal democratic party is beyond parody….they are a complete joke.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 1:40 AM
I could name about six factors which collide; whose intersection under most circumstances would pinpoint a single identity. But in this instance you have a Doppelgänger.
I’ll keep you posted. This message will self destruct in 60 seconds.
Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:41 AM
You know I realize the board is sympathetic to outlawing abortion but bear with me. If the Repulicans had the kind of numbers that Obama had and decided to outlaw Abortion would we hear the press wondering why the democrats wouldn’t play ball? No, we would hear what do the Republicans expect that the democrats would be able to compromise on abortion? If there was a groundswell of protestors and perhaps even some upside down polls about outlawing abortion would the press say “well the country is just ungovernable” Hell no! We would hear how out of touch the Republicans are and that pushing issues that the parties and the public have long debated or disagreed is no sign the country is ungovernable or the citizens are unreasonable. To steal a line from someone else…are they saying the backward fever swapms of Massachusetts are filled with uninformed backward people because they sure haven’t mentioned up till now.
Conan on February 9, 2010 at 1:42 AM
A joke couched in delicious irony. Remember how they proclaimed that conservatism was dead, as well as the GOP?
atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:45 AM
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
All warfare is based on deception. Hey, what’s that behind you?
- Sun Tzu’s nephew
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 1:45 AM
Okay, 86.
*Starts stomping all over the mini tape recorder, which is billowing smoke and fumes*
atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:46 AM
Yea….
The debate is over……
….just like Man Made Global Warming…..
……….Funny how facts and the reality on the ground are always the opposite of what a liberal says.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 1:51 AM
Well, our sacred cow is freedom. Theirs is the “right” to kill an unborn baby.
atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:51 AM
MB4
Thanks once more for the lovely line that, “Chaos always wins because it is more organized.”
Not exactly the Second Law I know but maybe a Second corollary?
Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 1:54 AM
I wonder if he was cloned in the night? Let us all think. Was there the same number of him when we all got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling like something was a little different. But if there are now two of him, the next question is ‘Which is the original and which is the Doppelganger?’ Ah, that’s the great puzzle!
Cheshire Cat on February 9, 2010 at 1:56 AM
FTFY
Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 2:00 AM
BREAKING!
DailyKos is now reporting that they see a light at the end of the tunnel for Obama and the democrats.
What they do not yet realize is that it is a tea-rain.
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:01 AM
O/T MB4, but I thought you might be interested in this
Except in Afghanistan…..
…..now we tell the enemy what we are doing and when we are going to do it….
…..don’t want anybody getting hurt…..
……..except our own Soldiers
Announcing the Marja Offensive
BY Herschel Smith
5 days ago
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2010/02/03/announcing-the-marja-offensive/
….smart power…..
…..but at least no civilians will be killed…..
……….how progressive!!!!
…If they are going to send our Soldiers over there…then let them fight……
….Apparently that is not the goal…..
This combined with a horrendous ROE is turning our military into a joke to the Afghans:
Covering for the Rules of Engagement?
BY Herschel Smith
4 minutes ago
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2010/02/09/covering-for-the-rules-of-engagement/
MB4,you certainly know more about the front lines than me or many others….but this just seems insane to me.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:04 AM
I was in the artillery and always tried to keep the front lines at least a few klicks away from me.
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:07 AM
These are good. An interesting amalgam of Groucho Marx, Lewis Carrol and Eastern Mysticism.
Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 2:08 AM
She endeared herself to the logging conference crowd by holding her hand up to show what was written on the palm of her hand: “Loggers rock!” – an apparent dig at “lame-stream media” who recently ridiculed her for writing memory prompts on her hand. And toward the end of her talk she complimented logging industry folks when she referred to an administration that talks about green jobs.
god I love this woman
unseen on February 9, 2010 at 2:10 AM
Yea, there is more to her than meets the eye. Savvy.
Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 2:13 AM
The changes General McChrystal wants to institute change the very foundation of the operation from destruction of the forces that would do harm to the United States of America to one of safeguarding the Afghan civilian population at all cost. The General has become so mired in the complexities generated by the mission that he has forgotten mission itself. He said he no longer wants to concentrate on chasing and killing the enemy (kinetics), but instead wants to concentrate on building relationships with Afghan population?! Not only does this distract our forces from the core mission but it actually places at risk the possibility of success. The ROE issue is an example of how off track this operation now is. The ROE is intended to safeguard the population by limiting fire – all fire whether initiated by us or fired in our defense, if civilians are in the area. Close Air Support and Artillery are pretty much nonexistent for fear of collateral damage (dead and wounded civilians). The ROE in effect, further endangers our Warriors by allowing the enemy to command the battle space because they no longer have to fear reprisals. They hide among the civilian population and engage us with indemnity, endangering us and the civilians we are now suppose to be safeguarding. This self-destructive policy also allows the insurgents greater freedom to set IED’s and ambushes because they are afforded greater freedom of movement. In essence we have turned over control of the battle space to the Taliban. The locals are not inclined to help us because they see the Taliban as the stronger force and the one they are likely to be stuck having to deal with long after the dust of this war has settled.
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:14 AM
This just seems unbelievable……
Are the rules of engagement making any difference?
BY Herschel Smith
1 week ago
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2010/02/02/are-the-rules-of-engagement-making-any-difference/
…..Seems our Marines don’t want to be part of watching each other get blown to bits while our leadership worries about the terrorist and their supporters feelings.
Our video games are more destructive than what we are doing to the enemy in Afghanistan…..
It seems to me that Obama has directed a policy of “Surrender with style” at the expense of our Soldiers and their mission.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:15 AM
Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted.
- Groucho
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:16 AM
Always the modest one…..
….you were still there and were a major part of why we have the Freedoms we have today…..
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:17 AM
Troops Feel Growing Rage in Afghanistan
Note some of the comments.
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:24 AM
That’s a she, not a he.
atheling on February 9, 2010 at 2:26 AM
No you didn’t.
atheling on February 9, 2010 at 2:27 AM
Great link…thanks..
There is a growing segment from Roggio,to Yon,and on, that are echoing these same sentiments.
It seems to me they are putting our Soldiers on the chopping block in hopes that the Taliban will make nice and Obama won’t have to suffer any more problems with his left wing base.
Problem is America is not being made aware of this because the media has instituted an “Afghanistan War blackout”.
There is literally no media or other sources even discussing the fact that we are at War and have men and women on the front lines being blown up because we don’t won’t to offend the enemy.
….I mean sh!t…Obama only spent a few lines in his SOTU speech addressing Afghanistan.
…..This is absolutely criminal and beyond irresponsible to have our military treated with such disrespect and disregard concerning the sacrifice they are making.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:27 AM
Defense Secretary Gates and Afghanistan commander General McChrystal announced a new $3.2 billion initiative to design monster masks to be worn by U.S. troops to scare Taliban troops into surrendering. The masks – modeled after gorillas, Chewbacca, and Nancy Pelosi – would be available in universal camo pattern and bullet-resistant. The first versions are expected to be fielded by 2037.
- AJKiek
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:32 AM
StrategyPage has a different slant on this.
1. Warn the town. Civilians escape and t’s dig in.
2. Go in with maximum violence. Nobody and nothing escapes.
3. Control re-entry.
4. They cite the example of Faleuja (sp?) 2004
The reality is that T’ban & Co. play civvy casualties to the max and the Arab world works on rumor. Sh*t so does MSM. Prefer the Darlek strategy (“Exterminate! Exterminate!”) but this at least lifts ROE for this operation.
Not a big strategist but present ROE are dumb. When your guys are the most deadly men on earth, a few extra casualties seem to me to be instructive. That is, get outta our way.
Yeah, it is strange but so is this rise in Islam.
My take is a demographic one. Europe is not reproducing. Poor darlings import/allow guest workers who just happen to work cheap who just happen to come from the a$$holes of the world who just happen to be … the usual suspects. It’s why America needs to guard it’s borders.
This battle is just starting. Let’s watch and see if McChrystal can bring it off. Pretreus did in about two weeks.
BTW thanks for your past posts. Much good thought.
Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 2:33 AM
Defense Secretary Gates and Afghanistan commander General McChrystal announced a new $3.2 billion initiative to design monster masks to be worn by U.S. troops to scare Taliban troops into surrendering. The masks – modeled after gorillas, #hewbacca, and Nancy Pelosi – would be available in universal camo pattern and bullet-resistant. The first versions are expected to be fielded by 2037.
- AJKiek
MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 2:33 AM
I’m not unsympathetic to the argument that vigilance — protest, activism, anger — is the price of freedom. But with the national government in gridlock, I’m beginning to worry that our ‘don’t tread on me’ birthright has a deeper and darker cost.
“It’s not a matter of left or right. In my mind the only difference between 1960s leftist radicals and new millennium right-wing refuseniks is the length of their hair. They both have showed a desperate need to work through their issues with old King George.”
Ok for the final time let me explain this too you. Our founders understood human nature. They understood that man is fallen. that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly. yet they also understood that government was a necassary evil. See Common Sense by Thomas Paine for a more detailed look at this.
therefore the compromise that they drafted called the US consitution was to limit government to certain core functions. i.e give them unlimted power in certain places and no power in other places. They also designed the system to ensure that a small majority could not lord over a large minority.
they gave the president veto power and required a 2/3rd vote ot override that veto. they set the stage for the filibuster later enacted by the Seante under their own rules. To ensure that one man’s words were as important as another’s man and all would be able to express their views.
the end result is that our government by design 90% of the time is not suppose to work (i.e it is designed for gridlock) It is only designed to work in times of need or where a vast majority favors actions.
If you get a roomful fo people together most of them will agree on a few overriding issues. like lower taxes, taking care of the young, the old, winning a war keeping civil domestic order, protecting the genral welfare of society with certain laws against things like rape, murder, theft etc. Those things that the vast majority can agree on is what government can do and do well.
If you ask that room full of people more specific questions that vast majority turns into small majorities vs large minorities. these types of issues the founders understood would never be answered to the satisfaction of enough people to ensure domestic peace and therfore they delagated those issues to the states and local governmants since the belief is that people of the same type of views tend to live close together. thus we have federalism. It was this type of government and only this type of government that could govern a free people.
so when DC goes into Gridlock i smile because that means that government is working the way our founders intended it to work. They did not build a nanny or daddy state where “our betters” told us how to live our lives on a daily basis. they did not build a have and have not state wwhere those of certain blood were destined to rule over the peasants.
They built a system where free men could debate the issues of the day in a fair and open forum. They built a system that took into account the failings of humans and tried to ensure that those failings would not doom the country.
They even made a way for that system of government to evolve as the needs of the people grew and changed. They made it hard to change the government because they wanted to ensure that any change would have to be approved by the vast majority of people that would have to live under that change.
It is not the system of government’s fault or the way it was designed if the people running the government finds it too hard for them to do their job. That just means that those people are not qualified to be running it.
unseen on February 9, 2010 at 2:35 AM
For the love of God…what is this…
….Hamburger Hill Redux….
Here we go……not learning from the past….
These men apparently know a he!! of a lot more about Afghanistan than the supposed “adults” do.
#
….What a total cluster fu#k Obama has instituted in Afghanistan at the expense of our fighting men and women.
May God be with our Soldiers …….
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:45 AM
unseen
Funny but that’s the way my copy of our Constitution reads, too.
And, yes, please repeat often. Thanks.
Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 2:51 AM
Thank you also….
…I especially liked your point here:
If this type of policy and ROE continue….I don’t think the Afghan’s will view the American military as the “strongest fighting force on Earth” when everything is said and done.
We have the superior fighting force and weaponry….
….we should be using it.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:57 AM
Thanks again for your time and input MB4….
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 2:58 AM
I know you are not pessimistic but the 2:45 quotes sound way too much like the “all is lost” comments often seen here. Seems our sources are very different. I’m up for a trade.
IMNSHO Gates and Mullen are typical pols, even with Mullen’s four stars. Nobody gets four without being a consummate pol. And Gates is CYA for Bambi.
Bambi must be aware of LBJs failure and how the left supported then dropped him. The Narcissist in Chief depends on Gates for military cover. Unlike like Reid and Pelosi, Gates is a reed bending to the existing wind. e.g. DADT.
There is nobody in the current administration who is not a) weak morally and b) greedy and Gates fits right in.
The troops have always been noted for ingenuity. Indeed it’s a kinda game with dumb commanders. With “instant replay” electronics, it’s a bit harder to make convenient accidents but the net spreads techniques, capiece? and bad guys die. Our volunteer military is not the collection that “served” in Nam. Indeed the intelligence between officer and enlisted is small. And the motivation is great. It’s just what smart people do;
get the job done.
Yes the ROE are dumb. As is accounting for every bullet from an automatic weapon. SOS. And don’t get me started on the AR-16/M-4 POS. America still fields the most deadly men in the world. Bar none.
Bambi and Gates cannot screw that up in four years. The logistics (supply line) has been filled for Iraq + A’stan and must be drawn down before adverse policies can have an effect.
One of the things about “progressive logic” is that it is static. They change something and it is that way ever after.
In the real world, change is dynamic. A response to change that negates the original change.
Sucks to be you socialists.
Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 4:02 AM
She is freakin’ everywhere. Its a full time job just to keep track of her.
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/
BTW, Hi Mom!
Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 4:38 AM
OT – Quotes of the day: OT – Funny Quote of the Day:
Judge Zagel to Blagojevich: Enough of your ‘blunderbuss!’
By Natasha Korecki on February 8, 2010 4:35 PM – Chicago Sun Times
The federal judge overseeing the case of former Gov. Rod Blagojevich today slaps down his “blunderbuss” bid for an early return on witness statements — including a request for a report on the FBI’s interview of now-President Obama.
U.S. District Judge James Zagel today noted that a recent motion filed by Blagojevich’s lawyers contained no legal citations in its request that the government give them rush copies of witness statements.
“The blunderbuss demand for everything to be turned over sooner than the law allows is not well made,” Zagel said, adding:
“The volume of discovery already
produced far exceeds that required by established law.”
Zagel makes it plain he is not amused with a recent, casually-written filing by Blagojevich attorneys, which mocks the government and ends questioning whether the government will only play the tapes it chooses to play at trial.
Zagel calls the recent pleading by Blagojevich lawyers: “an assortment of rhetorical flourishes oddly detached from the issues in this case, in one instance invoking the case of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and, in
another, pleading that Defendant needs certain evidence to establish his innocence. This last statement ignores the well-known principle that a defendant does not carry a burden of establishing his innocence; instead, a burden of establishing guilt belongs to the prosecution.”
B.l.u.d.e.r.b.u.s.s.!
Blago’s attorney, Sam “Blagojevich is no Tony Soprano” Adam’s motion is linked at the Sun Times/Blago Watch feature. It is hysterical too. If you are into those legal things, Sammy’s motion is a real belly laugh. Bread and circuses or is this a game changer? Any situation shows how, especially if Blago flips, plea bargains or if the Judge & Adam rule to allow Blago’s Nixionian tapes, this trial is shaping up to be *bleepin* golden. Obama’s and his Chicago’s four horseman of the apocalypse: Our Gal Val, the runt with anger management problems, the slimy PR combover/caterpillar eye bows yahoo and that guy who looks like a Dr. Seuss sketch, have to know that some of their slimy wheeling and dealing is coming out in a few months and then everyone will have no doubts about who and what they are. This Chitown trial well could rip the masks from the homegrown sleeze. But I’ll always have the blunderbuss quip.
MayorDaley on February 9, 2010 at 4:48 AM
No,no,no,no…..I know we can win against the jihadist if we actually take the fight to them.
My dismay and discouragement is that our Soldiers are the ones suffering for in my opinion…experimental and politically motivated policies.
I think it is clear that a great amount of the success in Afghanistan relies on taking care of the jihadist training going on in Pakistan.
Our drone attacks and special ops is not enough to solve the problems in Pakistan.
Pakistan has already stated that they will not be proceeding with anymore military offenses.
A definite sign that they have made deals with certain tribes,eliminated the tribal power of the rivals of the tribes they have made deals with,and don’t believe Obama is strong enough to actually eliminate the enemy,so why put their heads on the chopping blocks.
Afghanistan Logistics: It Isn’t Too Late To Do The Right Thing
BY Herschel Smith
6 days, 3 hours ago
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2010/02/03/afghanistan-logistics-it-isnt-too-late-to-do-the-right-thing/
The enemy is fully engaged in trying to destroy our supply lines.
It is obvious from your posting that you fully understand how brutal and resourceful our enemy is…..
….we need to treat them as such and use every means available to eliminate them or they will just come right back.
There are mistakes in every war and Afghanistan is no different.
Iraq had many ups and downs before we got it right even when liberals and most of the world said it was lost.
There is no doubt we have the ability to destroy this enemy and do even more heavy damage to the jihadist movement and their quest for the New Caliphate …..BUT WILL WE AND DO WE POSSES THE LEADERSHIP IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO MAKE THE HARD AND UNPOPULAR DECISIONS THAT THIS WILL TAKE.
This is the root of my anger and discouragement…I just can’t stand to see our Soldiers sent to war with their hands tied behind their backs while our POTUS jumps from Golf courses, to TV appearances, to hosting basketball games without so much as a clue to what needs to be done to make this mission a success.
I truly believe that Afghanistan is a “political problem” in Obama’s mind and he just wishes it would go away so that he could concentrate on socializing America.
Every war commanded the need for great leadership from the White House….when we did not have it (LBJ/Nixon,Truman)the results were disastrous.
Obama is a hustler .. a salesman…not a leader….and our troops and their mission are suffering because of it.
This is a good example of Obama’s total lack of leadership:
WaPo: White House forgot that they told McChrystal to defeat the Taliban
posted at 6:45 pm on December 5, 2009 by Allahpundit
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/05/wapo-white-house-forgot-that-they-told-mcchrystal-to-defeat-the-taliban/comment-page-2/#comment-3020292
After two years of hearing Obama whine about how dam# smart he is and that he had a better plan….
…..after years of hearing liberals yell and scream about the “adults” are finally in charge…..
….America and our military find out that they had no clue what-so-ever about what to do in Afghanistan.
This is what I am angry about….not our military and whether they can win.
Casteel, I believe your point here is dead on:
Question is will they change for victory over the jihadist or will they “surrender with style”…..
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 5:03 AM
Errrrrrrrrr what?
I don’t think the original Populists were trying to empower the British government, or trying to democratize it.
I’m kinda sure they wanted to end their ties with the British government.
I don’t know, some people just might call the American Revolution, uhmmm kinda sorta a rejection of the current government at that time, you know the British.
DSchoen on February 9, 2010 at 5:04 AM
A bunch of effete, washington and new york nancy-boys think I’m not cool?
COOL
peacenprosperity on February 9, 2010 at 6:14 AM
…That’s a fantastic quote.
So, as we unravel the riddle that AP has posted for us, sans any documented source outside of the cute little blue text under the proper tone-setting “phraseology”- I’m to guess the pattern is that we’re ungovernable, now, by all accounts?
Right?
ChipDWood on February 9, 2010 at 6:51 AM
what a bunch a hooey
cmsinaz on February 9, 2010 at 7:02 AM
Wait a minute:
Didn’t Palin come out with a mention of the huge bonuses that Obamist cronies on Wall Street were getting?
Methinks this guy is reading into Palin something she doesn’t stand for. I don’t think she’s a Randist, nor do I believe a lot of the Tea Partiers believe in unrestrained capitalism.
victor82 on February 9, 2010 at 7:43 AM
O/T tad,Pamela Geller was on the Joy Behars show,with
Ron Reagan,in a full on assault of Sarah Palin!
Pamela did an excellent job at combatting against
the Lefts absolute HATE of SarahCuda!
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VIDEO: Pamela Geller on Joy Behar, Liberal Meltdown
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/02/video-pamela-geller-on-joy-behar.html
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM
In America, liberals and fish stink after three days.
mechkiller_k on February 9, 2010 at 8:05 AM
VIDEO: Pamela Geller on Joy Behar, Liberal Meltdown
canopfor….wow! Those 4 ladies sure had a cat fight!!!!
yoda on February 9, 2010 at 8:11 AM
The Congress is trying to subvert the processes of the Senate to ram through sweeping legislation that is opposed by 70% of the population. Our problem here is not an excess of democracy.
gridlock2 on February 9, 2010 at 8:14 AM
Methinks this guy is reading into Palin something she doesn’t stand for. I don’t think she’s a Randist, nor do I believe a lot of the Tea Partiers believe in unrestrained capitalism.
victor82 on February 9, 2010 at 7:43 AM
while Palin does have a libertirian streak like Reagan she simply wants the government to be concerned about its core functions. One of which is ensuring a fair and free market via interstate trade, tarrifs and yes some regulation.
what she is against is companies not taking responsibility for their mistakes and expecting the taxpayers to bailout their boneheaded moves. Most CEO’s in the banks, car companies, home companies should be on the street and beggers atm. they made major mistakes with their business models, their companies management of risk and credit. they lost billions in welath for the shareholders of that company. those people need to be fired and lose their vast wealth. Not by government actions like Obama and Reid-pelosi want to do but by the hard cold reality of a free market system.
the government stepped in and changed the rules and protected these idiots from haivng to deal with the consequences of their actions and decisions. that was wrong and unfair. and they did it for one simple reason because those in power think they are better then the guy with a small business etc. That is the elitism that Palin and her supporters can not stand. that crony capitalism.
unseen on February 9, 2010 at 8:26 AM
VIDEO: Pamela Geller on Joy Behar, Liberal Meltdown
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM
canopfor….wow! Those 4 ladies sure had a cat fight!!!!
yoda on February 9, 2010 at 8:11 AM
yoda: Un-freaggin-believable,how much the Left hate’s
former Governor of Alaska,Sarah Palin!:)
This was pure character assassination mode!!:)
Pamela did a great job!:)
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 8:27 AM
VIDEO: Pamela Geller on Joy Behar, Liberal Meltdown
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM
canopfor….wow! Those 4 ladies sure had a cat fight!!!!
yoda on February 9, 2010 at 8:11 AM
yoda: No kidding,Pamela did a great job,and boy,does the
left hate SarahCuda!!:)
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 8:30 AM
canopfor….wow! Those 4 ladies sure had a cat fight!!!!yoda on February 9, 2010 at 8:11 AM Apparently the little princess Ron was there to do the bitch role.
heshtesh on February 9, 2010 at 8:45 AM
When I read some of these articles by the lefties, I can’t help chuckling at how they don’t understand something very fundamental. They take it as a given that, because Tea Partiers don’t revere their supposed Ivy League betters, they obviously are all uneducated buffoons. In fact, many of the leaders and the rank and file are VERY well educated, including a fair number of Ivy League types. And even those who don’t have a sheepskin are possessed of an understanding of government’s proper role. Maybe they don’t know everything there is to know about monetary policy, or all the nuanced differences between Shiites and Sunnis; but they understand that they are in a fight for our country’s continued existence. They know we can’t spend as we have been, or tax as we’re about to have to, without utterly destroying the economy. In that, they are a heck of a lot smarter than the “intellectuals”.
Anyway, I chuckle at the left’s misunderstanding of the Tea Party movement, because this underestimation is what has caused them to be so utterly ineffective in combating it, and will likely continue to do so.
RegularJoe on February 9, 2010 at 8:50 AM
I had no idea that there were so many ways to just not get it.
Count to 10 on February 9, 2010 at 9:20 AM
Oops,I thought my first post to yoda,didn’t go through,Ugh!
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM
canopfor….wow! Those 4 ladies sure had a cat fight!!!!yoda on February 9, 2010 at 8:11 AM Apparently the little princess Ron was there to do the bitch role.
heshtesh on February 9, 2010 at 8:45 AM
heshtesh: Yup,I enjoyed Pamela’s exchange with Ron!!:)
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Amazing how mercurial the distinction between “damned rabble” and “power to the people” is. The only real difference is that the latter is funded by George Soros et al.
spmat on February 9, 2010 at 9:31 AM
You lie! Here’s a link to a photo and story of Lloyd Marcus at a Tea Party event in Orlando…from your own fricking paper. And Herman Cain, for one, is a big tea party supporter and has hosted tea party events.
Buy Danish on February 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM
I love the smell of lefty desperation in the morning.
Farmer_Joe on February 9, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Great vid canopfor……
Pamela did a good job of exposing the liberals for being nothing more than snarky,adolescents who can’t come up with any substantive issue to condemn Sarah Palin for.
Just repeating “she sure is dumb…she does not have a thought in her head….she does not know anything” without providing one specific example of this shows their ignorance.
Of all the people to open up a segment with “I can’t believe she was dis-respectful to the President”……Behar is the last person to lecture on being “dis-respectful” to the President.
This is the hypocrisy and idiocy of liberalism in action.
They call the people that don’t agree with them “ignorant and stupid” while they push failed policies and pretty much don’t know their a$$es from a hole in the ground.
If Behar and her friends believe that Obama’s socialist agenda is the Answer…..they may want to get out of their hollywood bubble and look what the American people think about it:
75% Are Angry At Government’s Current Policies
Voters are madder than ever at the current policies of the federal government.
Keep it up Behar and your liberal friends……keep your lips pressed to Obama’s butt while the rest of America kicks your idiot butt to the curb.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM
Good for her! Frankly, all the stories about her are very lame.
Defending her constantly is a mistake. She can defend herself.
AnninCA on February 9, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Chris Wallace’s interview of Sarah Palin, which I thought was well done by both interviewer and interviewee, was Wallace’s highest rated show ever, and beat the other Sunday morning yak/snore shows. linky
james23 on February 9, 2010 at 10:06 AM
They really are scared of the tea party movement.
jukin on February 9, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Chris Wallace’s interview of Sarah Palin, which I thought was well done by both interviewer and interviewee, was Wallace’s highest rated show ever, and beat the other Sunday morning yak/snore shows. linky
james23 on February 9, 2010 at 10:06 AM
and explains the hate of the MSM. After all her negative stories people still want to listen to her…..liberals heads explode is a good thing in the grand scheme of things
unseen on February 9, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Dear AllahPundit, Peace Be Unto You, could you PLEASE tell us WHO was quoted for the Quotes of the Day? We see a photo of Sarah Palin, but SHE didn’t say all those things–who did?
Steve Z on February 9, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Click on the links if you want to know.
Esthier on February 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM
The rotting starts in the heads of both too.
daesleeper on February 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Keep it up Behar and your liberal friends……keep your lips pressed to Obama’s butt while the rest of America kicks your idiot butt to the curb.
Baxter Greene on February 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM
Baxter Greene: The Left is surreal,and as Rush says,
give’em more rope!!
And,yes,Pamela did a superb job!:)
canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM
That doesn’t make any sense. If government is restrained and prevented from handing out trillion-dollar gift baskets, there’s far less for “moneyed interests” to BUY.
joe_doufu on February 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Didn’t read all but what I read made Tea Party folks sound like the peasants revolting and destroying the rich and prosperity and literally s——g in their own nest. Well, my friend who got all the money from the stimulus and TARP? The rich & big money class. Who then gives it to PAC’s etc and gets politicians elected so they can ride jets to Copenhagen, booze it up, have all the perks of royalty etc? The rich & money class. Don’t mind folks being rich but damn it we should make it a crime for them to steal from us legally like they do now
Herb on February 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM
First quote – wrong
Second quote – wrong
Third quote – wrong
Fouth quote – wrong
What’s up with all these pundits trying to ‘define’ (in other words, pigeon-hole) Tea Partiers? Last year, TP does not warrant mentioning without contempt and sneer, right now they are competing to be the ‘first’ to define TP.
Who am I kidding? They are trying to sell more copies of their drag, to spoon feed untruth to their dying viewers/subscribers, to reassure them not to be fearful.
Sir Napsalot on February 9, 2010 at 12:08 PM
And Palin says she wants to NUKE IRAN?! PLEASE! THE NUCLEAR STUFF IS NOWHERE NEAR WEAPONS GRADE! IT’S A STAGED TERROR ATTACK YA DUMB NEOCONS! WHY DON’T YOU START OPENING YOUR MINDS AND LISTEN TO ALEX JONES!!!
IT’S ALL ABOUT STAGED ATTACKS BY THE NEOCONS AND NEOLIBS!
To me it’s all about one thing..
RON PAUL OR WAYNE ALLEN ROOT FOR 2012…OR ELSE LIBERTY DIES! AND TO THOSE WHO WANT DEATH TO LIBERTY, ENJOY YOUR FEMA CAMP PHONIES!
BobAnthony on February 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Beinart starts by saying:
So he set up ‘the media’ as the straw man… then begins to demolish…
Anybody else see what I’m seeing here?
ElRonaldo on February 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM
They talk as if the “moneyed interests” can force a consumer to do anything. It’s a fiction (save when the government blesses a firm with a monopoly – that can only be sustained for any duration with government coercion, force of law v. the natural competition that occurs once the consumer isn’t getting the best deal possible). It’s only when government tries to tell people (and those they “assemble” with – corporate or not) what to do that there’s pushback. And if rules and taxes are not “blind” then these groups (moneyed and not) want a seat at the table. Get out of the business of taxing and regulating groups (corporate or not) and then the progressive goal of taking the money out of government will be met. But since their movement is really about trying to perfect humankind (a religious goal, not governance) they want to rule, not govern. A pity. Esp. since these “moneyed interests” are responsible for almost all the good things in our lives.
aritai on February 9, 2010 at 4:25 PM
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