Quotes of the day

posted at 10:30 pm on February 8, 2010 by Allahpundit

“The Tea Partiers also say they want to empower ordinary folk against the privileged few. But who do they mean by “privileged few?” Unlike the original Populists, the Tea Partiers don’t mean moneyed interests. After all, while they oppose bailing out banks, they also oppose more aggressively regulating them. In fact, the Tea Party crowd wants less government oversight over Wall Street. As Tea Party Convention keynote speaker Sarah Palin declared a while back, ‘We got into this mess because of government interference in the first place.’

“By privileged few, in fact, the Tea Party crowd means government. The ordinary folks are the voters and the privileged few are the people who run Washington in disregard of their wishes. For the original Populists, the answer to this problem was more democracy: reforms that made Washington more responsive to voters and less responsive to moneyed interests. But the Tea Partiers have no interest in such reforms. They simply take it as a fact that Washington is unresponsive and self-interested. While the Populists wanted to empower government as they democratized it, the Tea Partiers want to disempower government because they don’t believe it can be democratized. And by disempowering government—by reducing its oversight of Wall Street, as Palin demanded at the Tea Party convention—the Tea Partiers actually strengthen the very moneyed interests that the Populists wanted to restrain.”

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“In other words, the American passion for absolute liberty isn’t too far removed from heedless adolescent rebellion. The ‘tea party’ faithful might as well be Marlon Brando in his black leather jacket in ‘The Wild One.’ ‘What are you rebelling against,’ a girl asks the smoldering Brando. ‘What’ve you got?’ he replies.

“So, yes, there are reasons to be suspicious of government, and yes, our yearning to be ‘masterless’ has created a culture that sends adventurers on the open road and pioneers looking for the next frontier. But it’s also making it increasingly difficult for government to function.

“I’m not unsympathetic to the argument that vigilance — protest, activism, anger — is the price of freedom. But with the national government in gridlock, I’m beginning to worry that our ‘don’t tread on me’ birthright has a deeper and darker cost.

“It’s not a matter of left or right. In my mind the only difference between 1960s leftist radicals and new millennium right-wing refuseniks is the length of their hair. They both have showed a desperate need to work through their issues with old King George.”

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“So now we have a country absolutely teeming with irregular passions and artful misrepresentations, whipped up to an unprecedented pitch and volume by the fundamentally new means of 24/7 cable and the hyperdemocratic web. And instead of a calm club of like-minded wise men (and women) in Washington compromising and legislating, we have a Republican Establishment almost entirely unwilling to defy or at least gracefully ignore its angriest, most intemperate and frenzied faction—the way Reagan did with his right wing in the eighties and the way Obama is doing with his unhappy left wing now. Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and their compatriots are ideologues who default to uncivil, unbudging, sky-is-falling recalcitrance, as Keith Olbermann does on the left. Fine; in free-speech America, that’s the way we roll. But the tea-party citizens are under the misapprehension that democratic governing is supposed to be the same as democratic discourse, that elected officials are virtuous to the extent that they too default to unbudging, sky-is-falling recalcitrance and refusal. And the elected officials, as never before, are indulging that populist fantasy.

“Just as the founders feared, American democracy has gotten way too democratic.”

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“Since the 60s, Democrats have been reluctant to wave the flag and are uncomfortable with anything that evokes the spirit of ’76. Words like ‘patriot’ and ‘minuteman’ unnerve them, not only because they have been co-opted by the right, but because they are used to christen nuclear weapons and vigilante groups along the Mexican border. And the ethnic monochromaticism of the Tea Party movement is equally abhorrent. Latinos and blacks are not invited to tea parties. Well, maybe as caterers.

“One of the things that helped get Obama elected was that he was really cool. This made Democrats feel cool. Tea Party types are not cool. But there are an awful lot of them out there. The Democrats thus find themselves in a bind. They cannot continue to cede the public stage to the Tea Partyers. They cannot simply sit back and do nothing. Maybe they should try torchlight parades. Or coffee claques. Perhaps even fistfights. But they better try something soon. Trouble’s a-brewin’.”

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The fact that the majority of incumbents aren’t feeling a sense of doom is a failure on our part to let them know just how damn dissatisfied we are with their miserable failure as our representatives.

It’s up to us to fix that problem. No one else can do it. It’s up to you, me, your neighbor, my neighbor, etc., … and so it goes. We’ve got to take our country back, at the polls. There’s no other way to get our country back that doesn’t involve the r-word. No, the other r-word.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Knucklehead on February 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM

I put in the time creating it, so I may have to use my comment hand a few more times tomorrow.

WashJeff on February 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM

“I’m not unsympathetic to the argument that vigilance — protest, activism, anger — is the price of freedom. But with the national government in gridlock, I’m beginning to worry that our ‘don’t tread on me’ birthright has a deeper and darker cost. I just don’t happen to like freedom.

There we go.

darii on February 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Blatantblue wouldn’t have a stick shift car. He needs the full bench seat for his dates with the ladies. Neckin’ in a bucket seat car…..not fun.

portlandon on February 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM

lol…they even still make bench front seats?

JetBoy on February 8, 2010 at 11:32 PM

MB4 on February 8, 2010 at 11:25 PM

There is a difference between oversight, which I have yet to meet someone who is opposed to oversight, and interference like the CRA.

You have to remember that Bernie Madoff should have been caught had the SEC done their job. The oversight we have is failing and needs reformed, but gov’t interference is a problem.

uknowmorethanme on February 8, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Boiled down to their essences, the quotes of the day bemoan the continuing political predominance of the knuckledragging, mouthbreathing majority of American voters. Isn’t it sad that the Left just can’t get over the hump to their much anticipated dictatorship of the proletariat because the majority of the proletariat doesn’t want to cede them the dictatorship? We would all be so much better off if we just let them govern us the way they think we need to be governed. One man, one vote, one time. Like most of my fellow Americans, I prefer of the people, by the people, for the people.

Mongo Mere Pawn on February 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM

The left’s mentality: Call every conservatives a racist, bigot, sexist, homophobe, and don’t even bother asking questions later.

darii on February 8, 2010 at 11:29 PM

The similarity in the two statements just struck me as odd:

“Latinos and blacks are not invited to tea parties. Well, maybe as caterers.”
– Queenan

“You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had hotel staff in here.”
– Howard Dean speaking to the DNC Black Caucus

neurosculptor on February 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM

portlandon on February 8, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Welcome. I’m redheaded.

Caststeel on February 8, 2010 at 11:36 PM

Limit the power of the federal structure and we’ll limit the corruption. There is no other way. Too much centralized power has always been a corrupting force. History does not lie.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2010 at 11:36 PM

I put in the time creating it, so I may have to use my comment hand a few more times tomorrow.

WashJeff on February 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM

It’s really cool. Good job. They changed my Facebook page today. It’s also a nightmare and sucks.

Maybe we’ll wake up tomorrow and find out that Todd Stroger is going to take Cohen’s place/

Knucklehead on February 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Warning: watching this could cause erectile dysfunction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

Geochelone on February 8, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Geochelone: *My eyes,my brain*,hey that was worse than
watching Pelosi do a pole dance!!

Well,HilRod did try to warn about the WON!!:)
===================================================
Hillary Mocks Obama
——–

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPV1yd7sQg

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Tea party participants want to be represented. They want their views to be listened to. They are the taxpayers who want a voice in limiting the growth of government and the drain on their incomes via taxes and on their businesses via unsupportable regulations. They want the liberty to pursue their own dreams. They do not want a government that has decided that it knows best what individuals and communities need.

How hard are these concepts to understand?

When I read the interpretations of what the tea party movement is all about from Leftists, the disconnect with reality is quite clear.

onlineanalyst on February 8, 2010 at 11:38 PM

“One of the things that helped get Obama elected was that he was really cool. This made Democrats feel cool.

Trouble’s a-brewin’

I see a time of reckoning arising
I see trouble for him on the way
I see earthquakes and lightnin’
I see bad times for Obama coming into play

He’s lost his cool alright
Well, it’s bound to take his oratorical life
A time of reckoning is on the rise

I hear hurricanes ablowing
I know Obama’s dictatorial end is coming soon
I see rivers of tea over flowing
I hear the voice of rage that will lead to his ruin

He’s lost his cool alright
Well, it’s bound to take his oratorical life
A time of reckoning is on the rise

Hope he’s got his things together
Hope he is quite prepared for his star to die
Looks like he’s in for nasty weather
One eye is taken for an eye.

He’s lost his cool alright
Well, it’s bound to take his oratorical life
A time of reckoning is on the rise

He’s lost his cool alright
Well, it’s bound to take his oratorical life
A time of reckoning is on the rise

MB4 on February 8, 2010 at 11:40 PM

neurosculptor on February 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM

I think they just recycle the same tired jokes.

darii on February 8, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Why does qUOTE of the day have to be a wall of meaningless text?

PrezHussein on February 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM

WashJeff on February 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Nice handiwork.

Americannodash on February 8, 2010 at 11:42 PM

Maybe we’ll wake up tomorrow and find out that Todd Stroger is going to take Cohen’s place/

Knucklehead on February 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM

That would be funny and consistent for IL. Sleep on this (debt ticker for IL).

WashJeff on February 8, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Why does qUOTE of the day have to be a wall of meaningless text?

PrezHussein on February 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Yeah! I want meaningless pictures!

darii on February 8, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Nice handiwork.

Americannodash on February 8, 2010 at 11:42 PM

Thank you very much (Elvis voice).

WashJeff on February 8, 2010 at 11:45 PM

Latinos and blacks are not invited to tea parties. Well, maybe as caterers.

Was this guy intending to do a riff on the Howard Dean “Republican” remark or was this just coincidental common thinking among leftist types?

neurosculptor on February 8, 2010 at 11:26 PM

This clown would be shocked to see the number of Latinos at our Tea Parties, (Libs, Libertarians and Cons) all railing against illegal immigration. Twenty miles south is the biggest border crossing on the planet and everyone is sick of illegal activities here. Our local radio Talk shows teem with Latinos calling in to protest against Comprehensive Immigration reform. They know it means amnesty. So do the illegals who jam up the border crossing every time DC politicians open their yaps about it.

Geochelone on February 8, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Next Tea Party:

Wear the shades. Future’s so bright.

Saltysam on February 8, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Saltysam: Reminds me of the movie 300,we will fight in
the shade then,hehe!:)

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:48 PM

And by disempowering government—by reducing its oversight of Wall Street, as Palin demanded at the Tea Party convention—the Tea Partiers actually strengthen the very moneyed interests that the Populists wanted to restrain.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
- Thomas Jefferson

MB4 on February 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Gee, Allah, at least you could have included O’Reilly’s put down of the Politico guy as the latter tried to defend the lame stream media’s coverage of the tea party movement. But four quotes of the day all snarky? How about Fox News guy’s Bill Sammon saying how the MSM is trying to denigrate the movement: thousands of stories about the tea parties and only two positive!

Christian Conservative on February 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Tea.

It’s the new white meat.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM

I love the smell of fear in February. It smells like Victory!

29Victor on February 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM

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WashJeff on February 8, 2010 at 11:22 PM

WashJeff: 5*Stars for style!!:)

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM

I think they just recycle the same tired jokes.

darii on February 8, 2010 at 11:40 PM

I think you’re right, darii.

neurosculptor on February 8, 2010 at 11:51 PM

You have to remember that Bernie Madoff should have been caught had the SEC done their job. The oversight we have is failing and needs reformed, but gov’t interference is a problem.

uknowmorethanme on February 8, 2010 at 11:33 PM

If government were doing it’s job pretty much everyone at Goldman Sachs would be in prison. Well, a lot of them anyway. Instead many of them are in government positions.

MB4 on February 8, 2010 at 11:53 PM

Geochelone: *My eyes,my brain*,hey that was worse than
watching Pelosi do a pole dance!!

Well,HilRod did try to warn about the WON!!:)
===================================================
Hillary Mocks Obama
——–

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPV1yd7sQg

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM

You got me back with Pelosi Pole dancing. Now I need mental floss. I’ll settle for a beer.

Hope your wifey lets you play with us for a while. We might pitch together to get you another computer hehe.

Geochelone on February 8, 2010 at 11:54 PM

A comment only a gearhead could love.

Love it.

Blatantblue, time to shift it to second…

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2010 at 11:23 PM

hillbillyjim: You got that right,:)

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:54 PM

especially the ones who dress up in those annoying and ridiculous costumes

really grinds my gears

blatantblue on February 8, 2010 at 10:38 PM

You mean all those American Flags? I can see how that would annoy you.

unclesmrgol on February 8, 2010 at 11:55 PM

Blatantblue wouldn’t have a stick shift car. He needs the full bench seat for his dates with the ladies. Neckin’ in a bucket seat car…..not fun.

portlandon on February 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM

portlandon: Especially when BB is on Cougar Patrol!haha:)

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:56 PM

The crooks, in government and business, are getting scared of an accounting.

As well they should.

November 2010.

Vote against Statist tyranny and its financial pimps.

profitsbeard on February 8, 2010 at 11:57 PM

The tea party movement is NOT about populism. It is about representative government. Americans do not want a central command economy.

The state of CA can address its own Blue Cross issues. If the problem is that the state has too many mandates in its insurance regulation, then the Tenth Amendment should take care of that problem. Kathleen Sibelius should just exit her nose from this issue.

onlineanalyst on February 8, 2010 at 11:58 PM

Heh. Collectivists can never understand when people get together voluntarily. C’s are accustomed to needing coercion. Which is where the 2nd Amendment comes in. Just the idea that there might be resistance drives ‘em wild. After all we are supposed to bow to their elite superiority. Me, I like happily clinging.

Yep, the 2nd Amendment and the 23rd Psalm. And on to the next Tea Party. See ya’ there.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:01 AM

These guys either really have no idea about what the Tea Partiers are about or they’re really scared of what the movement means to their ambitions.

holygoat on February 9, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Tea Partiers want to disempower government because they don’t believe it can be democratized

Amen, Americans are 300 million individual Machiavellian’s by heredity, if the King George’s we’ve allowed into office don’t like our orders in command, F***em if they can’t take a joke. Do what you’re told. Its a Constitutional Republic, deal with it.

Speakup on February 9, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Hope your wifey lets you play with us for a while. We might pitch together to get you another computer hehe.

Geochelone on February 8, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Geochelone: Ya,I know,its the face booky thing,she likes
to go on before bed time,ugh,thanks for feeling
my pain,hehe!:)

canopfor on February 9, 2010 at 12:08 AM

I find it very interesting that “town hall” is not mentioned in any of the articles quoted. The town halls are really what killed health scare (as much as anything can be killed that is being pushed by an Indonesian with nothing but contempt for us and our system), as they stalled it right when it had its best chance of being rammed through and were the most effective part of the Tea Party movement, so far.

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM

Latinos and blacks are not invited to tea parties

Nobody has to be invited to tea party rallies. Those who attend come because they value their liberty, their pocketbooks, and their property. They prefer to define their own lives and not have those lives and sapirations limited by a government that predetermines what some self-appointed Utopians determines how those lives should be lived.

onlineanalyst on February 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM

Breaking News: A Platform hasn’t been established yet for the following but, ……

There are unaffiliated liberals out and about who want to start their own party. They’re lost for ideas on what to call themselves except for “The Anti-Tea Partiers” and/or for those who are more apt at performing green forms of multitasking “The Wet Recycled Paperbag Partiers.”

ACORN and Americorp has promised to assist them in getting all the financial assistance they’ll need including SEIU members to hold their signs at psuedo rallies. They’ve volunteered to charge this new Party the going union rate if negotiations reach an impasse.

Americannodash on February 9, 2010 at 12:11 AM

“I’m not unsympathetic to the argument that vigilance — protest, activism, anger — is the price of freedom. But with the national government in gridlock, I’m beginning to worry that our ‘don’t tread on me’ birthright has a deeper and darker cost.

Well you can quit worrying pal. Assigning deep, dark, costs to the tea party movement is wholesale dishonesty. It’ a patently transparent attempt to give sinister motive to the tea party groups.

This should make every tea party participant angry.
I guess we are all going to go around wearing suicide vests and planting roadside bombs.

Ideas and impetus toward a representative democracy will sink the social democrat agenda presently at work in this country, and it won’t require a deep, dark cost. It will, rather, require the light of freedom and justice, to prevail.

All I got out of reading this article is, what an ignorant, uninformed, (or deliberately misleading)jerk this writer is.

Typical lame streamer!

donh525 on February 9, 2010 at 12:13 AM

canopfor on February 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM

I love the smell of BB-Q troll shit in the morning.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:15 AM

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM

“Town Hall” got corrupted by office servers using them as a filibuster opportunity. Just another example of “progressives” F’n up everything they touch.

Town halls will return when representatives want to listen to the people. And that’s gonna happen. Funny part is that America’s proletariat is conservative.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:19 AM

It’s not their business model that sucks…

kahall on February 9, 2010 at 12:19 AM

These guys either really have no idea about what the Tea Partiers are about or they’re really scared of what the movement means to their ambitions.

holygoat on February 9, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Could be both bro. The TPM defies definition. And that’s a good thing. We are an eclectic group of rabble rousers.

Our TP was a very festive occasion, spirited, free and friendly in a public park along the bay.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:19 AM

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM

Yes, town halls took place at the local level without the need for a leader. Can the TPM thrive without a national leader? I say yes. What say you?

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

How schadenfreudig it is to see the Left so completely, and illogically morfified, so soon. Heh, they now claim there’s “too much democracy”, they the ones “for the people”. Oh, the fun it is and the party has not even begun in earnest.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

They ain’t seen nothin yet. Patriotism is pretty dang cool.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Town halls will return when representatives want to listen to the people. And that’s gonna happen. Funny part is that America’s proletariat is conservative.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:19 AM

Town halls will force the representatives to listen whether they want to or not. The tea parties are an irresistible force of the people.

We can announce the town halls since we are the government. A politician fails to show at his own peril. Why give them the power to announce town halls?

Step up or step down!

donh525 on February 9, 2010 at 12:30 AM

The thing that I find fascinating and totally insulting is that it is assumed from the get-go that for one to be a supporter of the tea-party movement, then therefore one must be a Republican; and vice versa.

The implications are various and severe. The first implication is “You dumb rednecks need to listen to us DC folk and we’ll steer ya right.”

What’s next?

Ya wanna tea-party with me? Who dat?

Raaaacist shitheads. That’s who. Whodat? Yeah, I said it. Racists. Problems?

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:31 AM

I really hate these f’n pricks! Our Founding Fathers did not want a democracy. Democracy is mob rule, when you boil it down. They created a constitutional republic with federalist principles. The only element of democracy present was in the election process, which even they realized the states should handle it and not DC. Which candidate for office this year or 2012 is trumpeting this point?

Black Ice on February 9, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Word has it that disenchanted progressives, unhappy that Mr. Hopey-Changey isn’t moving fast enough in implementing their agenda, are splintering off from the Dems. There is even talk of their forming a third party. Why does the Lamestream Media not pursue this narrative?

The Independents are abandoning Hopey-Changey, and so are the young embarking on their new careers or jobs. There are no jobs. ObaMao-policy has created a gridlock in the economy that is preventing growth.

onlineanalyst on February 9, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Gee, Allah, at least you could have included O’Reilly’s put down of the Politico guy as the latter tried to defend the lame stream media’s coverage of the tea party movement.

Christian Conservative on February 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM

I’m beginning to wonder about AP’s love of Politico. Well, not exactly “beginning.” I always have.

Connie on February 9, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Whole lotta bedwetting going on, huh?

OhioCoastie on February 9, 2010 at 12:33 AM

How schadenfreudig it is to see the Left so completely, and illogically morfified, so soon. Heh, they now claim there’s “too much democracy”, they the ones “for the people”. Oh, the fun it is and the party has not even begun in earnest.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Just wait ’till the Fat Lady sings this November. It will be a blast. Their heads will explode.

MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 12:34 AM

The lack of skilled elocution tells me that, one, yes I was correct, and two, refer to rule one.

I’m done trying, for now.

Well, my comment didn’t go, so FXXX it. Apologies to the truly sincere.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Yes, town halls took place at the local level without the need for a leader. Can the TPM thrive without a national leader? I say yes. What say you?

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

I think so, since it is really just a confluence of interests among the people. But the street part of it will only appear for ultra important things that have to be done immediately – like killing the health scare monstrosity. That thing had to be killed like 6 times, and it’s still not totally dead.

If health scare dies, as it certainly should, then the continuation of the real Tea Party movement – the street participation – will probably only reappear for something equally threatening, like Crap&Trade or amnesty (amnesty would turbocharge the Tea Party like no ones business). Seeing that I believe The Precedent will continue to threaten America with one disastrous policy after another, I think that more protests will be in the offing and the national Tea Party movement will live on its own – with no national leader.

But, if The Precedent relented and started acting like an American (I don’t even think he’s capable of this), the national Tea Party unity would dissipate with the threats and the brand would be co-opted by regional groups pushing candidates, probably fiscal hawks, until the next credit crisis hits and then all bets are just off.

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

By privileged few, in fact, the Tea Party crowd means government. The ordinary folks are the voters and the privileged few are the people who run Washington in disregard of their wishes.

I wouldn’t limit it to just Washington. Each and every state has its own “privileged few” working for it and collecting fat paychecks and pensions which will eventually require even higher taxes, if not bankrupt many municipalities and states. If the people working in the various bureaucracies at the local, state and Federal levels don’t want to be seen as the “privileged few”, maybe they should give up some of their privileges.

The hypocrisy of these people claiming that government is “there to help” and the ridiculous levels of compensation those employed by government get is on par with anything the Left likes to complain about emanating from conservatives. The “Oh, I’m just a noble civil servant working for the public good” shtick doesn’t fly when the “civil servant” is pulling down 6-figures for a do-nothing job while collecting another close to 6-figure pension supplemented by disability payments due to a “work-related injury” conveniently timed for just the moment when his final pension calculation was made, upping the pension another few thousand.

You want me to believe the government is “here to help”? Let the government employee unions open up all these obligations to renegotiation. Until they do, it would be contrary to taxpayers’ interests to let government continue to grow, due to the outsized demands it makes on our wallets relative to the value obtained.

At least I can choose not to buy whatever the “moneyed interests” are selling. I can’t refuse to pay taxes to fund some unionized government employee’s pension, even if the value I receive for those taxes is nil.

venividivici on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

donh525 on February 9, 2010 at 12:30 AM

Yes! That’s a great follow on idea! Tea Party’ revenge!

Get a venue and invite a pol or two. They show, they can crow. No show speaks for itself. Open comments and Bronx cheers.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

I forgot to include the KSM trial as another point to possibly bring Tea Partiers into the streets … and other such issues.

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

We are not ain’t alone.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:38 AM

It really isn’t worth worrying about.

Do you love your country?

The rest is simple.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:40 AM

C’mon, MB. I know you can support this.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:40 AM

Yes, town halls took place at the local level without the need for a leader. Can the TPM thrive without a national leader? I say yes. What say you?

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

I say, hell yes. Look how far it’s come so far without a national leader.

You can believe, however, that there will lots of “volunteers” to be national leaders. They should be dismissed forthwith. Opportunists need not apply.

Will the movement at sometime want a leader? Probably.
That show will require a high priced ticket!

donh525 on February 9, 2010 at 12:41 AM

I’m going to repeat what I said back in the headlines post:

Hey Joe… I’m Latina, and I’m a Tea Partier.

Vete al carajo. I don’t do catering. I’m a hostess.

That’s it. I’m not taking this lightly. This is racism of the lowest order. Who’s with me?

My invitation stands. Who’s with me?

newton on February 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM

Sounds like the establishment and ruling elite on both sides have just realised that the Tea Party movement is no flash in the pan and is here to stay. They are panicking as evidenced by the sudden upswing in attacks on the movement by their pet howler monkey’s in the Media after the convention on the weekend. As far as they are concerned the Tea party movement has become a direct threat to their dominance and control of government in this nation and must be destroyed at all costs. Watch out people the elites are going to try and use everything they’ve got to put an end to the Tea Partiers rebellion against their big government tyranny.

Hellrider on February 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:37 AM

No shortage of problems (issues MA) here. We got +/- 100 years of BS to undo. And scorecards are needed. Punch out picture cards should work.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Watch out people the elites are going to try and use everything they’ve got to put an end to the Tea Partiers rebellion against their big government tyranny.

Hellrider on February 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM

“First, they ignore you. Then, they laugh at you. Then, they fight you.

Then …”

I think they’re entering stage 3.

newton on February 9, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Now we see

MB loves his comeraderie

More than his celebrity!

Three cheers for MB-4!

A man among men, we’ve ne’er seen before.

He’s no whore, he’s just never been here before.

Such a chore.

What a bore.

To be put before…

…such a teenage breakdown oh no no.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:49 AM

Watch out people the elites are going to try and use everything they’ve got to put an end to the Tea Partiers rebellion against their big government tyranny.

Hellrider on February 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM

We have the constitution. And oh yeah, guns.

donh525 on February 9, 2010 at 12:50 AM

When this many lefties start whining, something good is happening.

Eff Cliffy on February 9, 2010 at 12:51 AM

Hellrider on February 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM

newton on February 9, 2010 at 12:45 AM

They’re too late. Knowledge (and outrage) among the general populace has passed critical mass. The negativity will work against them (kinda like the Cuda). In other words, we’ve got them right where we want them. It’s gonna be an interesting 8 months!

2ipa on February 9, 2010 at 12:51 AM

They’re cowards. They must send goons or other turds. Small problem; we practice and have CCW in most states. In others it’s the dojo work. Goons are hired help, just plain wannabe bullies. Me, I got a double advantage; red hair does that.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:52 AM

I think that more protests will be in the offing and the national Tea Party movement will live on its own – with no national leader.

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Chaos always wins because it’s better organized.
- Murphy

MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 12:53 AM

Me, I got a double advantage; red hair does that.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:52 AM

Remind me never to get into a fight with you! :-)

newton on February 9, 2010 at 12:54 AM

We have the constitution. And oh yeah, guns.

donh525 on February 9, 2010

Exactly what I was thinking as I watched the Audi SuperBowl commercial. Send the Green Police to Texas, Please!

Eff Cliffy on February 9, 2010 at 12:54 AM

Nevermind, damnit.

MB-4 was right all along.

What’s up with that?

Nevermind, those who seek silly clues will find them.

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:56 AM

newton on February 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM

Just look at the last hour or two of comments. You’re in good company.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:57 AM

The 2nd amendment is the guarantee of the 1st amendment. So that is why we can mouth off as much as we want.

Mirimichi on February 9, 2010 at 12:57 AM

Remember, just because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean that it doesn’t make sense. See ya!

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:58 AM

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Indeed. But, to be honest, I think we are beyond fixing. The monetary problem has just been allowed to get truly out of control and the only possible hope of growing out of it (which is the only solution) is gone while The Precedent sits in the White House. The US will not last three years of him, just from this aspect, alone.

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:58 AM

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Exactly. Fear motivates like no other force on Earth. I have been impressed with the speed and spontaneity of these events. They are low maintenance and with a few web-sites and email exchanges they come together flawlessly.

Timing is everything and when the need arises, as you pointed out, we can respond to squash each and every attempt that DC can puts forth to assail our freedoms.

When not in emergency panic mode the TP events can deal with local issues, a thing to which they are well suited. In that instance media attention is not really necessary. Its networking that matters there, getting signatures on petitions. In a two hour period one could nail down thousands of sigs in one fell swoop.

These events can propagate all over the place. We see eye to eye on many things. Its refressing

donh525 on February 9, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Good, yes

hillbillyjim on February 9, 2010 at 12:38 AM

Another yes. Excellent. We are on the same page.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:59 AM

newton on February 9, 2010 at 12:54 AM

Not a problem. We got the secret grin. heh

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 1:00 AM

I think that more protests will be in the offing and the national Tea Party movement will live on its own – with no national leader.

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Chaos always wins because it’s better organized.
- Murphy

MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 12:53 AM

Are you in the yes camp? The opposition can’t possibly know how to foil our plans because we scarcely know what they are ourselves. I love that fact.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:02 AM

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

If one needs an example of how the quest for a national leader destroyed a movement one need look no further than the minutemen organization. They self destructed over internal feuding and the guys actually doing the work were ignored for the greater glory of fame and media attention to those at the top.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:05 AM

“Just as the founders feared, American democracy has gotten way too democratic.”

It never fails. Every time the Democrats manage to get some level of majority control inside the beltway, they attempt to ramrod their massive socialist/progressive agenda down the throats of center-right and generally conservative everyday Americans. Who then rise up and rebel on a large enough scale, albeit not as large as the current one in a long time, to put a halt to their shenanigans.

And the progressive pundits in the MSM start screaming and shouting about the horrible, uninformed ignorant masses who don’t know what’s good for them, and are rendering this country unable to be governed properly.

In other words, when we don’t agree with them and their socialist/progressive agenda, then there’s something wrong with us and we’re destroying the country.

Except this time the Democrats went too far, too fast, with the liberal/progressive factions of the MSM spinning like crazy to provide cover for them so that this time they could achieve all those socialist/progressive dreams they’ve harbored for decades.

Yet thanks to modern technology the American public has access to not just all the information and facts and documents never available to past generations, but in addition has access to each other in unprecedented numbers and on all levels possible. Radio Free Europe for Americans, X 1000.

They had majority control in DC: The White House, majority control of both the House and Senate in Congress, and they utterly blew their chance in a lifetime to enact every single major socialist/progressive piece of legislation they could imagine…..and they blew it.

Now they’re trying to tamp down the uprising hoping to salvage some bits and pieces out of the wasteland of their agenda, and trying to marginalize the movement to neutralize it…. but it can’t and won’t work. Because they got too arrogant, condescending, irresponsible, and drunk on power and control and spending other people’s money.

They’re twisting in the wind, and I’m loving watching every single contorted gyration! They thought they had it all, that they’d claimed the country for their own warped purposes. “I won.” Obama declared, then took the prize money and spent it frivolously. And it surprised the heck out of the progressives when they finally got a clue and realized that they’d made two big mistakes: They chose the wrong “leader” to be President. And they greatly underestimated We The People of the United States of America.

And they ain’t seen nothin’ yet! Hehehe, I am just loving this! Can you tell??? ;)

KendraWilder on February 9, 2010 at 1:07 AM

Hillbillyjim, I don’t know what moonshine you have been drinking but the rest of us might like some.

MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 1:09 AM

neurosculptor on February 9, 2010 at 12:58 AM

We don’t need to hold em’ off for three years. Just eight more months for the worst part. That does require courage and sacrifice.

The next two years will be no piece of cake but are doable.

I have to think, too, that the rest of the world is mostly on our side. Dollar is still reserve currency. Gold responds to it more so than other currencies. Yes there are global problems but our contest has the attention. And our military successes are not un-noticed.

Yep, that’s an optimist speaking. Man was I down about three months ago. Amazing what VA, NJ and MA can do for ya.

It ain’t over by a long shot but stay strong; we all need everybody.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 1:14 AM

Yes, town halls took place at the local level without the need for a leader. Can the TPM thrive without a national leader? I say yes. What say you?

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Absolutely yes! That’s the only way to keep it fluid and alive.

atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM

Are you in the yes camp? The opposition can’t possibly know how to foil our plans because we scarcely know what they are ourselves. I love that fact.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:02 AM

If even we don’t know where we are just think how difficult it will be for them to find us.

Hence that general is skilful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skilful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack.
- Sun Tzu

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
- Sun Tzu

Act extremely confused, even to the point of aimlessness. Act extremely intoxicated, even to the point of consciouslessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew

MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM

Moving from OK to MD, I thought the tea party movement would be pretty lame in a blue state, but I’m finding out the movement is alive and well with tea parties in Anapolis and busloads of people in DC, etc. And the slogan, “If they can do it in Massachusetts, why not in Maryland?” It’s exciting times. Agree with Caststeel, we haven’t yet begun to fight and we need to get every like minded citizen into the fray. Let’s roll!

Christian Conservative on February 9, 2010 at 1:21 AM

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
- Sun Tzu

Act extremely confused, even to the point of aimlessness. Act extremely intoxicated, even to the point of consciouslessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew

MB4 on February 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM

I got Sun Tzu on my shelf. The book that is and I would hazard a guess; that second quote is not among those pages. Bwaaahh

I like the formlessness quote, if for no other reason than that it will psyche the hell out of the MSM.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:28 AM

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:28 AM

I’ve got him in my ipod.

Oh, and I’m not who you think I am. Heh.

atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:29 AM

Yes, town halls took place at the local level without the need for a leader. Can the TPM thrive without a national leader? I say yes. What say you?

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Absolutely yes! That’s the only way to keep it fluid and alive.

atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM

I knew you would see it that way Agent 99.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:30 AM

I knew you would see it that way Agent 99.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:30 AM

Lol. Just to clarify, I meant the other identity. :)

atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:32 AM

Oh, and I’m not who you think I am. Heh.

atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:29 AM

Unbelievable. Then you have a twin, a veritable clone of your essence. My mind is reeling.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:33 AM

Unbelievable. Then you have a twin, a veritable clone of your essence. My mind is reeling.

Geochelone on February 9, 2010 at 1:33 AM

Okay, now I have to find out. Where?

atheling on February 9, 2010 at 1:34 AM

KendraWilder on February 9, 2010 at 1:07 AM

Yeah! More tough times ahead but the way has been found once again. Love it when freedom happens!

Guess conservatives really do need an uprising from the socialists to remind us, as one of may ball caps says, “Freedom is not free.”

With luck, the Tree of Liberty will be watered, once again, with only the spittle of wannabe tyrants.

Caststeel on February 9, 2010 at 1:37 AM

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