Even more problems found in IPCC report on AGW

posted at 11:00 am on February 7, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

First, the IPCC  Himalayan glaciers claim turned out to be based on speculation from an interview — and copied incorrectly.  Almost immediately after that scandal, the claim that anthropogenic global warming could kill off 40% of the rainforest was exposed as an unsubstantiated claim from the World Wildlife Fund, postulated by two activists, neither of whom were climate scientists.  It just seemed like a matter of time before someone started digging through the IPCC’s report to knock down the entire house of cards.  Today the Telegraph reports on its research into the basis for the IPCC’s claims on AGW and discovers that much of its foundation consists of highly suspect components (via Newsbeat1):

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) report is supposed to be the world’s most authoritative scientific account of the scale of global warming.

But this paper has discovered a series of new flaws in it including:

  • The publication of inaccurate data on the potential of wave power to produce electricity around the world, which was wrongly attributed to the website of a commercial wave-energy company.
  • Claims based on information in press releases and newsletters.
  • New examples of statements based on student dissertations, two of which were unpublished.
  • More claims which were based on reports produced by environmental pressure groups.

Student dissertations? The IPCC claims to use the peer-reviewed standard; in the East Anglia CRU e-mails, its chief threatened to redefine peer review to block legitimate scientists from introducing peer-reviewed papers that contradicted AGW claims. And in this case, these aren’t even doctoral theses:

It can also be revealed that claims made by the IPCC about the effects of global warming, and suggestions about ways it could be avoided, were partly based on information from ten dissertations by Masters students.

One unpublished dissertation was used to support the claim that sea-level rise could impact on people living in the Nile delta and other African coastal areas, although the main focus of the thesis, by a student at the Al-Azhar University in Cairo, appears to have been the impact of computer software on environmental development.

The IPCC also made use of a report by US conservation group Defenders of Wildlife to state that salmon in US streams have been affected by rising temperatures. The panel has already come under fire for using information in reports by conservation charity the WWF.

Estimates of carbon-dioxide emissions from nuclear power stations and claims that suggested they were cheaper than coal or gas power stations were also taken from the website of the World Nuclear Association, rather than using independent scientific calculations.

In fact, the Telegraph also reports that the IPCC deliberately ignored a peer-reviewed paper by Dr. Roger Pielke, an AGW believer who considers much of the alarmist rhetoric as fantasy.  The IPCC says that they believed Pielke “changed his mind” based on nothing at all, certainly not on any contact with Pielke, whose complaints led to the disclosure.

The IPCC doesn’t do science.  They do advocacy, mainly for the idea of international control of energy and manufacturing, with a healthy dose of redistribution of wealth.  These revelations should put an end to any reliance on IPCC work for American policy, and the UN should be pressured to fire everyone involved in this sham, starting with railroad engineer Rajendra Pachauri.

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Ultra Breaking News:

Ukrainian Pres. candidate Tymoshenko killed at polling place during election runoffs vs Russian-backed candidate.

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CPT. Charles on February 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM

I stuck my head outside the front door, and it’s not as cold as it was during the Ice Age. So global frying pan is real (said while stomping feet for maximum effect).

Hog Wild on February 7, 2010 at 11:05 AM

When someone has MONEY invested, you can expect a lot of advocacy. And Pachauri has A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED.

GarandFan on February 7, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Ultra Breaking News:

Ukrainian Pres. candidate Tymoshenko killed at polling place during election runoffs vs Russian-backed candidate.

Hunting for more news now.

Oh, oh. Well, I guess Putin knows what he can do….

On Topic: It’s frigging cold here so shut up, stupid global warming people.

mjk on February 7, 2010 at 11:07 AM

This is like the bans on plastic bags because some fool misread a report noting some anecdote about the existence of plastic and sea-lion morbidity or something like that.

neurosculptor on February 7, 2010 at 11:07 AM

it like hearing a good story from my mom. She never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.

uber on February 7, 2010 at 11:09 AM

“The IPCC doesn’t do science. They do advocacy, mainly for the idea of international control of energy and manufacturing, with a healthy dose of redistribution of wealth.”

The “Truth at Last”!

bucko36 on February 7, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Ed, a dissertation is to a PhD what a thesis is to a Masters.

You’ve promoted the documents to one whole level above where they really are.

unclesmrgol on February 7, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Even more problems found in IPCC report on AGW

In other news, popcorn sales are up as the world watches the left implode.

UltimateBob on February 7, 2010 at 11:12 AM

In other news, popcorn sales are up as the world watches the left implode.

UltimateBob on February 7, 2010 at 11:12 AM

I thought that popping sound was the watermelons’ heads exploding.

Spiny Norman on February 7, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Obama soon will make himself clear: The time for research and discussion has past, and the United States cannot afford to wait any longer before we ship money overseas to assist underdeloped countries with their imminent global warming disasters.

GaltBlvnAtty on February 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Ukrainian Pres. candidate Tymoshenko killed at polling place during election runoffs vs Russian-backed candidate.

Hunting for more news now.

CPT. Charles on February 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Where did you get that? She’s like a Ukranian Palin. This is huge news, if true. Nothing here yet.

Pablo on February 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM

CPT. Charles on February 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM

If true, this is quite a serious matter. Tymonshenko has been a ruthless power-palyer (& a hottie too) since the inception of the Orange Revolution. No less corrupt than most in Ukranian politics and plays her cards exclusively to her own ends. In the constantly shifting landscape over there, I am not sure if she was tilting towards the West or back towards Russia in her present incarnation, but whatever the case thie ripple effects will be felt a long time and with global geo-poliliticaln consequences.

I can’t find anything on this report as yet.

Archimedes on February 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM

The A in AGW is the biggest hint at their agenda,energy, power and wealth redistribution are certainly ingredients. The manmade claim is for the purposes of controlling the size of populations and nothing else.

fourdeucer on February 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Erm, sorry about the strikethrough.

Where did you get that? She’s like a Ukranian Palin. This is huge news, if true. Nothing here yet.

Pablo on February 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Why does the American LSM continue to hide the truth from the American people?

d1carter on February 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM

What we are witnessing, as the entirety of the AGW fact finding methods is exposed, is just the tip of the iceberg. Expect even more bizarre sources to be exposed.

This is sheer scientific (sic) malfeasance. Honest and concerned scientists, worldwide, need to stand up and demand in the loudest voices the full exposure of all of these pretenders and crooks. It needs to be decided who were just lazy, who were actually guilty of criminal activities, and who were following political agendas.

The entire system needs to be purged.

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Why does the American LSM continue to hide the truth from the American people?

d1carter on February 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Because, according to them; we can’t handle the truth and must be spoon-fed small doses of their truthiness.

Jeff2161 on February 7, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Cub scout science project shows ice melts above 32 F. Quick! Let’s use this as a footnote…
/s

Jeff2161 on February 7, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Student dissertations? The IPCC claims to use the peer-reviewed standard; in the East Anglia CRU e-mails, its chief threatened to redefine peer review to block legitimate scientists from introducing peer-reviewed papers that contradicted AGW claims.

Dude, my peers like totally reviewed it before I turned it in. What more do you want, bra?

James on February 7, 2010 at 11:27 AM

The Telegraph first reported on this back at the end of January. The IPCC error du-jour appears to be Africagate that was reported on EUReferendum today.

Dusty on February 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM

This is like the bans on plastic bags because some fool misread a report noting some anecdote about the existence of plastic and sea-lion morbidity or something like that.

neurosculptor on February 7, 2010 at 11:07 AM

I beg to differ with you on this one, AGW is made-up from whole cloth. Plastic bags and the problems that arrise from near permanant half-life is a serious problem. We pump them out by the gazillions, and mankind will be but a quaint memory on this planet long before the 1st Plastic bag decomposes.

Not all enviromental concerns are imaginary, the food chain of the oceans are indeed threatened by the accumulation of these bags in our oceans, particularly in the Pacific. I am all for banning these excepting only special cases, which there is no better choice. I can’t think of one, but there may be such an instance.

Archimedes on February 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM

How an absolute scam of this magnitude on the global community can come this close to having effect on the whole world is mind boggling. Without the internet, the dishonesty of major media would’ve been a willing accomplice to enslaving the entire world population. They should be ostracized into oblivion.

volsense on February 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM

LOLOL…another week, another lefty “truth” debunked. It’s their Annus Horribilis for sure. Can’t stop smiling…

hoosiermama on February 7, 2010 at 11:34 AM

But Chuckles Johnson showed me pictures that the Himalayan glacier was melting.

Did he lie again?

Knucklehead on February 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM

And in this case, these aren’t even doctoral theses:

standing on the shoulders of gia…er, undergrads…..

Meww.

ted c on February 7, 2010 at 11:37 AM

These revelations should put an end to any reliance on IPCC work for American policy, and the UN should be pressured to fire everyone involved in this sham, starting with railroad engineer Rajendra Pachauri.

Hey, give the guy a break. If you can write a steamy romance novel, it’s not much of a leap to publish steamy fiction about global warming.

TXUS on February 7, 2010 at 11:38 AM

To label these Marxist organizations as “conservation charities” is total B.S. Type in http://www.defendersactionfund.org/about_us/index.html, and the home page has the photo of, and a glowing statement in support of, Defenders of Wildlife from none other than Ed Asner. Yeah, the same Ed Asner who runs off to occasionally kiss Fidel’s ass. The same Ed Asner who has in the past expressed his hatred for the USA. Then you might check out the politicians they praise. Pelosi, Boxer, et. al. receive scores at or near 100%. The AGW crap has been driven by hair-dos in the LSM who go to “activists” pushing an agenda. The LSM then parrots the “activist” B.S. as fact and the average idiot who believes the media swallows the great big crap sandwich. Call these Marxists bastards what they are: watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

oldleprechaun on February 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM

We pump them out by the gazillions, and mankind will be but a quaint memory on this planet long before the 1st Plastic bag decomposes.
Archimedes on February 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Sounds like a great material to build roads and bridges out of.
Seriously, can’t they be recycled for something worthwhile?

donh525 on February 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I can’t wait to see the press release from the Nobel committee as to why they’re not going to revoke the prize awarded to all these frauds.

SaintGeorgeGentile on February 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/RFK-79834057.html

RFK, Jr. 15 months ago: Global warming means no snow or cold in DC

the_nile on February 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM

LGF has just banned the Telegraph.

rbj on February 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM

But Chuckles Johnson showed me pictures that the Himalayan glacier was melting.

Did he lie again?

Knucklehead on February 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM

That wasn’t a glacier melting; it was his brain.

Disturb the Universe on February 7, 2010 at 11:42 AM

CPT. Charles:

Where did you get this information?

Vatican Watcher on February 7, 2010 at 11:43 AM

LGF has just banned the Telegraph.

rbj on February 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM

I think it was already banned and replaced with a link to Guardian

Hunting for more news now.

CPT. Charles on February 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Here’s what I found. Seems like maybe a campaign manager was shot.

Alexander Turchinov, Yulia Tymoshenko’s presidential campaign chief, had earlier claimed that supporters of rival candidate Viktor Yanukovych killed a Tymoshenko official at a polling station in Ivano-Frankivsk. A death has been confirmed by police, but the cause of death remained under investigation.

forest on February 7, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Seriously, can’t they be recycled for something worthwhile?

[donh525 on February 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM]

Yeah, new plastic bags.

Seriously, though, most of the plastic is probably polyethylene which is a thermoplastic (as opposed to a thermoset plastic), so it can be reused as anything they want to use it for.

Dusty on February 7, 2010 at 11:46 AM

At least the UK papers have the guts to cover this story. Props to them.

Purple Fury on February 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Wouldn’t it just be easier at this point to write about what the IPCC gets right?

WesternActor on February 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM

forest on February 7, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Pic at link:
At least their topless feminist protesters look better than the Code Pink variety.

Disturb the Universe on February 7, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Sounds like a great material to build roads and bridges out of.
Seriously, can’t they be recycled for something worthwhile?

donh525 on February 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I think to some extent they are being used in this fashion, not the bags themselves(so your point is well taken) but the type of plastic is that used in that semi-new process wher the road is tore up reheated and relaid by the same contraption. The plastic taking the place of the traditional tar.

Archimedes on February 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM

[O/T] Correction:

Here’s the story I’ve found.

Apparently we’re talking about ‘garbled in translation’.

I stand corrected.

But it does seem to be turning out to be an incredibly ‘rough’ election.

ACORN is a bunch of naughty pre-schooler’s by comparison.

CPT. Charles on February 7, 2010 at 11:54 AM

I wonder if Manbearpig will come out against this after he was for it? Is there a way to strip him of his bogus Nobel and Oscar?

csdeven on February 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM

ACORN is a bunch of naughty pre-schooler’s by comparison.

CPT. Charles on February 7, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Heh, don’t inspire them to new depths.

:)

Disturb the Universe on February 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

This thing’s been out, and in the news, since what, 2007? And folks are just getting around to, um, reading it now? Or are these things relatively minor points in the overall analysis that are just getting attention now after the emailgate explosion? I’ve not paid much attention to AWG since I well recall the 1970s assurance that a new ice age was around the corner. Either way, throughout the ages, whenever somebody tells you he can control the weather, my advice is to put your hand on your wallet and run away as fast as you can. Anybody who’s watched a few old westerns knows that there is always going to be somebody around who will tell you he knows how to make it rain – for a price.

jdp629 on February 7, 2010 at 12:04 PM

I just got done shovelling 20″ of global warming off my sidewalk.My car is buried up to the hood in GW.I guess my carbon footprint is going to shrink,since I may not be able to move my car for weeks.

DDT on February 7, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Ted Nugent is a million times the environmentalist any of these scumbag crooks could ever pretend to be.

Bruce in NH on February 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Not all enviromental concerns are imaginary, the food chain of the oceans are indeed threatened by the accumulation of these bags in our oceans, particularly in the Pacific. I am all for banning these excepting only special cases, which there is no better choice. I can’t think of one, but there may be such an instance.

Archimedes on February 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM

That is indeed true. What is ironic is that plastic grocery bags were pushed to ‘save the trees’. Pine trees are a crop, albeit an eight year crop instead of an annual. The reality behind the push for plastic grocery bags is that they are cheaper, and the green meme was just a smoke screen.

Vashta.Nerada on February 7, 2010 at 12:15 PM

What happened to Ken Lay at Enron and Bernie Madoff needs to happen to algore and his cohorts. This scam has cost people billions.

behiker on February 7, 2010 at 12:16 PM

I’ve not paid much attention to AWG since I well recall the 1970s assurance that a new ice age was around the corner.

jdp629 on February 7, 2010 at 12:04 PM

That warning may be more accurate than any other that has been proffered since. Geologic history certainly supports the possibility, and suggest a higher-than-acknowledged probability. Of course just “around the corner” is measured in geologic time.

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 12:16 PM

AGW is a tribute to, and a clanging bell about the incredible power of propaganda.

Leni Riefenstahl would have been proud.

notagool on February 7, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Ted Nugent is a million times the environmentalist any of these scumbag crooks could ever pretend to be.

Bruce in NH on February 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM

And a lot more entertaining, too.

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Wouldn’t it just be easier at this point to write about what the IPCC gets right?

WesternActor on February 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Hey , they need to publish something.

the_nile on February 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM

the UN should be pressured to fire everyone involved in this sham, starting with railroad engineer Rajendra Pachauri.

Can we just fire the UN and give them the bums rush out of the country?

4shoes on February 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM

I guess you guys didn’t get the memo. The science is settled and this is all an illusion.

Oldnuke on February 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM

I guess you guys didn’t get the memo. The science is settled and this is all an illusion.

Oldnuke on February 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM

I have to put the top two comments from that site here, as they speak volumes.

GA
Dec 21, 2009

David Freddoso: one snow fall and and you spout off negative comments about RJK jr??? Get your facts straight. No where does he say it will never snow again. Also, he gets his facts from scientists just like the rest of us who enjoy living and want to protect this Earth from ignorant or non-caring people like yourself.

Write an article of importance rather than attacking someone who is spending their life doing good for the rest of us and this planet.

I suppose you think global warming is fake. If so, why do people die when they run their car in their garage? Take billions of cars and think about what it’s doing to this planet.

GA Is Stupid
Dec 21, 2009

Your car produces Carbon Monoxide not Carbon Dioxide. Carbon Monoxide kills you when you run your car in your garage. Carbon Dioxide which true believers like GA believe cause imaginary global warming is produced when people including GA breathe. RFK, Jr. is a pompous rich do-gooder who couldn’t get a real job if his life depended on it. He probably didn’t even write the article Mr. Freddoso quoted but in the long line of Kennedy frauds had someone else ghost write it. Gawd help us all from the Kennedy’s and their ilk.

Vashta.Nerada on February 7, 2010 at 12:31 PM

I’ve posted this before, but Harper’s magazine (of all places) has a great cover story on what shell game the UN-administered carbon trading is.

It was online, but now the link I had doesn’t work. It’s titled Conning the climate: Inside the carbon-trading shell game.

juliesa on February 7, 2010 at 12:36 PM

At the rate this is unravelling, Al Gore is heading into John Edwards territory.

Catherine Wilkinson on February 7, 2010 at 12:37 PM

And not one dang word on this from any of the msm’s. Amazing how one of the biggest stories continues to escape their notice, isn’t it? *sigh*

capejasmine on February 7, 2010 at 12:39 PM

IPCC IGNORES MOST SUCCESSFUL AND FIELD-PROVEN CARBON MANAGEMENT TECHNOLOGY!!!

It’s called “LIFE”!!!

landlines on February 7, 2010 at 12:41 PM

We pump them out by the gazillions, and mankind will be but a quaint memory on this planet long before the 1st Plastic bag decomposes.

BS. The plastic used in bags decomposes when exposed to sunlight.

Concern for the environment is one thing; a lack of concern for the truth is something completely different.

Crawford on February 7, 2010 at 12:45 PM

The A in AGW is the biggest hint at their agenda,energy, power and wealth redistribution are certainly ingredients. The manmade claim is for the purposes of controlling the size of populations and nothing else.

fourdeucer on February 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Seriously, what does the A in AGW stand for? I have never seen that defined anywhere. We went from just global warming to climate change to AGW? What is AGW?

karenhasfreedom on February 7, 2010 at 12:45 PM

1st let’s get one thing clear. NBC,CBS,ABC,MSNBC,CNN are not news organizations. They are nightly info commercials interrupted by paid advertising.There is no way you can stretch imagination and call anything they spout news.

BruceB on February 7, 2010 at 12:48 PM

a healthy dose of redistribution of wealth.

Yeah–a lot of it to Pachuri and the IPCC!

chickasaw42 on February 7, 2010 at 12:48 PM

The director of the Sierra Club has a post up at HuffPo today, mentioning and then dismissing the IPCC’s Himalayan goof.

The title of the post is “Governing the World Together”. If that doesn’t set your hair on fire, nothing will. He also takes a little shot at the US in the article.

I give a lot of money to wildlife conservation groups, and I want clean air/water, but these transnational socialist liars are dangerous.

juliesa on February 7, 2010 at 12:50 PM

karenhasfreedom on February 7, 2010 at 12:45 PM

A is for anthropogenic–caused by man’s activities. The climate changes all the time, going from cooler to warmer, and back, but the A part means that man is causing it, so man should do something to stop it.

juliesa on February 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM

DDT was banned largely because of the hysteria generated by a student dissertation that was completely fraudulent. If it is allowed to work the method will be repeated.

DANEgerus on February 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Found the Harper’s column for ya. PDF form.

http://citizensclimatelobby.org/files/Conning-the-Climate.pdf

exsanguine on February 7, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Seriously, what does the A in AGW stand for? I have never seen that defined anywhere. We went from just global warming to climate change to AGW? What is AGW?

karenhasfreedom on February 7, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Anthropogenic: an·thro·po·gen·ic (ăn′thrə-pə-jĕnĭk)

adj.
1. Of or relating to anthropogenesis.

2. Caused by humans: anthropogenic degradation of the environment.

AGW equals Man-made Global Warming

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM

It won’t matter, you’re talking to a cult that thinks Al Gore is an accomplished scholar because after all he wrote a book and everything.

These people, these coercive utopians are a rung below the level of ordinary sucker. They are defiant, willing suckers.

jeff_from_mpls on February 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM

BS. The plastic used in bags decomposes when exposed to sunlight.

Concern for the environment is one thing; a lack of concern for the truth is something completely different.

Crawford on February 7, 2010 at 12:45 PM

The comment was an exaggeration, but the point is that plastic bags take far longer to decompose than paper, and do present a real risk to marine life. I’m a diver, and have seen plenty of dead animals due to plastic bags. We should be working to discredit the junk science that got paper bags replaced with plastic. There are better uses for oil than making plastic grocery bags, especially when we grow pine trees as crops.

Vashta.Nerada on February 7, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Nothing says “peer reviewed” like unpublished student papers.

bilups on February 7, 2010 at 1:00 PM

When I read that someone had looked up the original source of the Himalayan claim and found through tracing reference back to reference it ends with a non-scientific peer reviewed papers I knew we were going to see the IPCC report start to fall apart. It marked the stage where the IPCC report was being “peer-reviewed” by people actually looking at the papers in it and not out of complete fear of the AGW crowd wanting to rubber stamp things. The hoax is not going to stand up to REAL inquiry. The trail is always going to end in an activist or a an environmentalist funded scientist which was fine before but the goal now had become to find sources for AGW that aren’t tainted to REVERSE the trust deficit and they NEVER had those people in the process leading up to now. They all will lead back to an WWF or a James Hanson acolyte. They purged the people unconnected to the AGW cult that would need now to verify their result LONG ago.

Conan on February 7, 2010 at 1:03 PM

What a fraud

nyx on February 7, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Can’t wait ’til my kids’ schools try to cram this garbage down their throats for ‘earth day’. This little lady will turn into a tycoon if they scare the daylights out of my kids again!

Grace_is_sufficient on February 7, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Some sanity about plastic bags. The research that has been quoted for years about plastic bags killing so much marine life was actually distorted by the environmental groups and the press. The original research stated that old fishing line was the main culprit.

http://www.thetruthaboutplasticbags.com/home.html

JimD on February 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Climategate scientist angles for sympathy vote by saying he considered suicide.

As it is, looks like he’ll be staying around to add to the toll of millions killed by environmental extremists.

EnglishMike on February 7, 2010 at 1:21 PM

And this will be reported in the MSM after which election, 2010 or 1012?

petefrt on February 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM

AGW? Al Gore’s Wampum?

katablog.com on February 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Definitely, heads should roll at the IPCC. This set of episodes has demeaned all of the contributions by scientists who are involved in legitimate and rigorous scientific testing in climate research. They need to separate the wheat from the chaff there, and the sooner the better.
I hope that the rest of the scientific community continues to demand the utmost rigor in ongoing scientific research in this very important matter of climate change. Skeptics should be welcomed into the debate, as they help keep the process honest.

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Without the internet, the dishonesty of major media would’ve been a willing accomplice to enslaving the entire world population. They should be ostracized into oblivion.

volsense on February 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Here’s the report I’m waiting for: A chain of editorial responsibility of the most egregious IPCC claims. Starting with the author and working up the chain until it is known how and by whom writing assignments were given, how and by whom they were reviewed prior to publication, by whom dissenting views were raised, how and by whom those views were resolved/overridden.

Barnestormer on February 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM

The IPCC would have been much better off if they had relied on Warmist Theories of the one dimensional cartoon characters from Southpark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ozI8TW4he8&NR=1

BigAlSouth on February 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM

How far we’ve come in a year or two. Cap & Tax was almost a fait d’complis last year at this time. But if the libs try to push this through now they will never get control of Congress again. And the UN has been discredited (again) for the corruptocrats they are.
What a day to rejoice! Remember before the first tea party, how we felt bombarded from every side? TARP, Porkulus, Obamacare, Cap&Tax, Omnibus, Bailouts, Govt. Control of Banks, Autos, “I Won”, etc. How refreshing that every one of these power grabs is being shoved back in their faces! And Fox News is now seen as the most fair news! And Sarah adds her own back atcha last night. And it’s Super Bowl Sunday. Life is good. Thank you God.

Christian Conservative on February 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM

But, more importantly, did they print the Report on recycled paper??!!

That’s what people really care about.

Not the little details of all the science thingies.

profitsbeard on February 7, 2010 at 1:43 PM

It just seemed like a matter of time before someone started digging through the IPCC’s report to knock down the entire house of cards.

Hopefully this is just the beginning, and the spotlight will widen to incorporate all of the hoaxes and scams the far Left environmental wackos have fueled over the past 30 or more years, from the Alar and DDT scares to gobal warming.

It’s time to expose these scam artists for who they really are, and drive them back into the sewers where they belong. The OTT regulations they’ve spawned have burdened farmers needing water for their crops, homeowners needing to shore up crumbling hillsides to save their homes, and sacrificed untold lives to malaria because of the ban of mosquito controlling DDT.

At least the UK MSM has the guts to do what journalists are supposed to do: investigate and report their findings, regardless of political ideology.

KendraWilder on February 7, 2010 at 2:00 PM

I was talking to a stranger in passing about how the Y2K bug turned out to be not much. I said “Whenever you hear of an over-hyped scare, look to see who’s doing the scaring, that’s who’s making the money… just like global warming”. He asked if I thought it was real and I replied (as snow fell in North Carolina), “Do you FEEL warmer?” His face fell.

theCork on February 7, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Mark Steyn said the other say that the press is just auditioning for its role as Poodles as they wait for the offical takeover by the Obama Government.

Rush’s “government controlled press” is shockingly close to the truth.

r keller on February 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Doesn`t matter if the science is wrong. The science is settled, they stamped on their seal and it`s accepted.

ThePrez on February 7, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Don’t worry, the next IPCC report will source the previous IPCC report, and that one’s PEER REVIEWED! So everything will be legit.

29Victor on February 7, 2010 at 2:20 PM

…this very important matter of climate change.

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Climate has been in a constant state of flux on this planet for over two billion years. During that more than two billion years it has always been an important matter some place. The records of constant change are written in the rocks.

Can you point to a time when it hasn’t been changing?

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM

This isn’t science, it’s eco-laundering. You take some crap “science” and activism, send it through a “reputable” UN panel and, BING, it comes out clean.

Reminds me of Leo Getz, Joe Pesci’s character in the Lethal Weapon movies.

29Victor on February 7, 2010 at 2:29 PM

Climate has been in a constant state of flux on this planet for over two billion years.

I’m sure that no scientist would debate this. And this being a given, why not attempt to discern the extent of mankind’s involvement in it (climate change)?

Also, can we say that rapid climate change is something to be desired? If we know more about it, then we may be able to prepare for it better, no?

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 2:33 PM

I suppose crap science is the best you can expect of a UN group purporting to have the world’s best peer reviewed science to support their scam.

Sounds to me like it’s past time for Obama to restore science to it’s rightful place and withdraw from the IPCC. May want to apologize to Bush while he is at it.

tarpon on February 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Fraudulent science, such as Rachel Carson’s fudging her data in Silent Spring, can lead to human suffering. Silent Stream should have been called Silent Scream because of all the humans who have died from malaria because DDT was banned based on her lies.

Dhuka on February 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM

I’m sure that no scientist would debate this. And this being a given, why not attempt to discern the extent of mankind’s involvement in it (climate change)?

Also, can we say that rapid climate change is something to be desired? If we know more about it, then we may be able to prepare for it better, no?

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Well, actually there is a long list of scientists that have opined on the subject. There are volumes of research that prove that the planet has experienced much more rapid increases in carbon dioxide levels, much higher levels of carbon dioxide and higher global temperatures, and at much higher rates of change than evidenced presently. And the planet has cooled back down, rapidly, into periods of continental glaciation. Not once, but many times. All prior to the appearance of man and his activities.

Those scientists, and all their diligent work, have been ignored, derided and cut out of the AGW discussion.

Draw your own conclusions from that.

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Steve McIntyre has a few good links in this post today to very recent IPCC bloopers, including unsupported references to “a looming 50% decline in north African crop production” that just take your breath away.

Good thing we have this “internets thing” or we here across the pond would never know half of what the British press is now doing to the fakers at both CRU and elsewhere.

These baseless claims have been carelessly bandied about by, among othersw, by IPCC Chair Pachauri.

The lede of Jonathan Leake’s latest article in the Times today is that the former Chair of the IPCC is now warning that the organization is losing it’s credibility:

“A LEADING British government scientist has warned the United Nations’ climate panel to tackle its blunders or lose all credibility.

Robert Watson, chief scientist at Defra, the environment ministry, who chaired the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) from 1997 to 2002, was speaking after more potential inaccuracies emerged in the IPCC’s 2007 benchmark report on global warming
. . . . “

Trochilus on February 7, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Also, can we say that rapid climate change is something to be desired? If we know more about it, then we may be able to prepare for it better, no?

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Let’s leave that to the Chinese.

daesleeper on February 7, 2010 at 3:03 PM

There are volumes of research that prove that the planet has experienced much more rapid increases in carbon dioxide levels, much higher levels of carbon dioxide and higher global temperatures, and at much higher rates of change than evidenced presently.

I am not sure how you feel that this relates to the present day issue of anthropogenic global warming. Are you implying that we would have nothing to fear from rapid changes in climate (temperature, rainfall, humidity, etc) because the earth has undergone such changes in the past?

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 3:03 PM

When will these people be handcuffed and trotted in front of a judge and jury to determine where they spend the rest of their lives???

AubieJon on February 7, 2010 at 3:07 PM

The interesting part is some folks have been pointing out these issues and many many MANY more for several years. Some folks have even written books pointing out the IPCC BS.

xblade on February 7, 2010 at 3:13 PM

I am not sure how you feel that this relates to the present day issue of anthropogenic global warming. Are you implying that we would have nothing to fear from rapid changes in climate (temperature, rainfall, humidity, etc) because the earth has undergone such changes in the past?

oakland on February 7, 2010 at 3:03 PM

It would appear that you are clinging to the descriptive “anthropogenic” when I’m suggesting there is proof that this has all happened many times before without an “anthropogenic” input.

I’m suggesting that there is damn little humans are going to be able to do to stop the “climate change” that has been going on for two billion years. Fear climate change if you desire, but it is folly to think you can stop it, or change the eventual nature of it. I suggest that, for man to survive, mankind needs to learn how to adjust to the “change” that has been going on forever.

You first need to prove the “anthropogenic” part of the present climate change. So far all that has been “proven” is a massive, coordinated fraud.

Yoop on February 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM

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