Surprise! Iran attaches “impossible” conditions to nuke offer
posted at 12:15 pm on February 6, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The Times of London calls this a “surprise,” despite the fact that the Iranian mullahcracy has followed an utterly predictable pattern over the last several years in dealing with the UN, the IAEA, and the West over its nuclear-weapons program. The West sets a deadline for Iran to respond to the latest Western proposal, and Iran waits until the deadline to announce that they will have a new counteroffer “soon.” A few weeks later, Iran offers the West a deal that sounds great, except that when Iran makes the details known, it contains a poison pill that the West has to refuse. Threats of sanctions ensue, and the West comes up with another offer … and the cycle starts again.
It’s like dandruff shampoo: Lather, rinse, repeat, only with fallout:
Iran has drawn up tough conditions on its proposed deal to ship out stocks of nuclear fuel, condemning the agreement to failure, The Times has learned.
Western leaders greeted with scepticism President Ahmadinejad’s sudden announcement on Tuesday that Iran was ready to hand over low-enriched uranium in return for a higher grade of fuel, a move aimed at building confidence and putting off Iran’s acquisition of material to fuel a nuclear weapon.
Iran’s conditions, contained in a written proposal given to British parliamentarians, include handing over its fuel in two batches on Iranian soil — both deal breakers in previous negotiations.
Meanwhile, the delay has had the effect that Tehran desired:
News of the conditions came as signs grew of the uphill battle Washington faces in persuading Russia and China to back punishing new sanctions against Iran at the UN Security Council.
Russia had appeared to be leaning closer towards sanctions after Iran’s refusal to back the deal which Moscow helped broker. Yesterday Russia’s foreign minister held surprise talks with his Iranian counterpart on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference while China insisted Tehran was still open to the deal.
“We believe Iran has not totally shut the door on the IAEA proposal on nuclear fuel supply,” Yang Jiechi, the Chinese foreign minister said in Munich.
Utterly, utterly predictable. China and Russia are not likely to cut ties with one of their biggest trade partners in the region, especially Russia, which has suffered through a harder recession than the US. Iran gives them excuses not to engage in tougher sanctions by going through these Kabuki dances every few months, and the West continues to play along. It would be humorous if it wasn’t successfully allowing Iran the time it needs to construct nuclear bombs and especially nuclear warheads to fit atop their short- and mid-range rockets.









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Pete and Repeat were on a boat. Pete fell off and who was left?
Notorious GOP on February 6, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Happy Birthday Ronald Reagan…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrpNVPJks9k
Kaptain Amerika on February 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM
But…Obama said that he just needed to sit down at the table with Ahmedinejad and everything would be okay-dokey.
kingsjester on February 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Where’s Hillary?
Knucklehead on February 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Rinse, lather, repeat.
Engage, disengage, repeat.
BigAlSouth on February 6, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Dear Iran,
Please accept our offer to disarm and stop production of nukes. If you don’t accept, we will curse you in public and call you “retarded.” Respond within the next 2 days or we will de-friend you from Facebook.
xxoo
Sincerely,
The United States of America
Notorious GOP on February 6, 2010 at 12:23 PM
oops… wrong page.
Kaptain Amerika on February 6, 2010 at 12:23 PM
How unexpected.
ThePrez on February 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM
It’s like the Terminator robot says, “Judgment day is inevitable.” There’s no stopping any given Muslim country from getting the A-bomb. The trick is, once they use it, and they will, that country needs to be annihilated from the face of the Earth. Only then, will the next Muslim country with a nuke sit up and take notice. What’s that about the persuasion of power?
Mojave Mark on February 6, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Only five more days until Ahmadinnerjacket delivers his harsh blow to the global community and liberal capitalist dogs!
SilverStar830 on February 6, 2010 at 12:25 PM
I would think the White House would be better of asking Iran to have a “Winner Take All” game of scrabble.
Notorious GOP on February 6, 2010 at 12:26 PM
As Charles Krauthammer pointed out (again) the other day: there is no such thing as the “world” or “international community”. There’s just a collection of individual nations all promoting their self-interest.
This “world community,” President Obama, isn’t going to come together and stop Iran. It’s simply not in the interest of Moscow or Beijing to do so. Their interest is in weakening the US; not stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
SteveMG on February 6, 2010 at 12:26 PM
The Peanuts frame, like many pictures, says at least a thousand words!
Perfect!
EconomicNeocon on February 6, 2010 at 12:28 PM
But…But…But…. The Won told us that HE could reach through the damaging rhetoric of the previous administration, and that the world would unite under the leadership of America again. He was supposed to bring Iran into the fold through negotiation, without preconditions!!!
Join in the conservative open forum discussion at It’s About Freedom.
IronDioPriest on February 6, 2010 at 12:29 PM
I’m not worried. Jon Stewart told BOR that if Pakistan hadn’t used their nukes, there was no reason to worry about Iran using one. Sounded fine to me, and it is such a tiny country, after all,…
a capella on February 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Exactly right. If Iran started a nuclear war against Arab OPEC states, Israel and the United States, it wouldn’t hurt Russia or China a bit.
Chris_Balsz on February 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM
I would laugh at the fool and his administration, but the consequences of the fool’s actions affect me, my family, and all of us.
SouthernGent on February 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM
And unprecedented.
Disturb the Universe on February 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Sucka’!
HornetSting on February 6, 2010 at 12:36 PM
“Let’s talk”….thus starts the most effective use of a stall you’ll ever see. When “let’s talk” is used as a weapon, it’s the most damaging weapon imaginable. Right now, Iran – taking a page or two from Saddam Hussein’s playbook – is utilizing that “let’s talk” weapon to the MAX.
How long is it going to be before somebody wakes up and says “Enough of the let’s talk BS…Cut the crap and do it now!”
GoldenEagle4444 on February 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Now I ask, which administration is more incompetent, absurd, dangerous, and immature? Irans, or ours?
These nimrods are playing games, with all of our lives, and we’re just little moving targets.
capejasmine on February 6, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Sucka’!
HornetSting on February 6, 2010 at 12:36 PM
The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. That’s how Obama rolls.
kingsjester on February 6, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Gird Your Loins:
Well, it looks like Joe was off by a couple of months, but he was right (as we all knew he was).
This is going to get ugly. I fear 0bama will fail the test.
UltimateBob on February 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM
No, but Obama’s outstretched hand is being pinched in the door by Ahmadinejad’s clenched fist.
Disturb the Universe on February 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM
The Fist. It remains clenched.
uknowmorethanme on February 6, 2010 at 12:42 PM
And let’s not forget the big blow promised for 2/11.
Disturb the Universe on February 6, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Technically, that was Einstein’s definition of insanity. But I guess you could define stupidity that way, too. Especially in the Democrats’ case.
UltimateBob on February 6, 2010 at 12:42 PM
I can imagine Iran’s saber-rattling about Feb. 11 an attempt to goad Israel into making a preemptive strike, whereby Iran could play the ‘victim’ card. Obowmao would never back an Israeli action, which would fracture our relations. Then, ‘poor’ Iran can buy more time to build nukes, while also being able to crush political opposition at home with minimal condemnation from around the world.
Tehran has to know that any major strike it launches is going to net them a severe whupping from NATO. Only after getting nukes can Iran put up a credible deterrent against Western military action.
You’d think the US wouldn’t have learned something from all those insane ‘peace talks’ during the Vietnam War, and be able to smack down Iranian nonsense during the current negotiations.
Liam on February 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM
…would have learned something…, that is.
Liam on February 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM
uknowmorethanme on February 6, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Which is exactly how a certain education advisor to the president likes it.
Disturb the Universe on February 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM
UltimateBob on February 6, 2010 at 12:42 PM
My bad. It’s Saturday. I knew I heard that somewhere. I wonder what the 11th is going to be?
kingsjester on February 6, 2010 at 12:48 PM
And historic.
Knucklehead on February 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM
hahahaha. I’m not going to answer that.
scalleywag on February 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Is this what they were talking about when Obama said they were going to use ‘Smart Diplomacy’?
This is not going to look good on Hillary’s resume when she runs for President in 2012.
PappaMac on February 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM
THANK YOU OBAMER! MAY WE HAVE ANOTHER?!
CynicalOptimist on February 6, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Last tinpot dictator in that region who attempted a very similar dodge, finally got his neck stretched.
But that was when there was an actual MAN in the White House, not a sissy girl in a suit.
PJ Emeritus on February 6, 2010 at 12:51 PM
More and more I wonder if Obama isn’t the main ingredient in a Rovian Master Plan to destroy the dumocrat party forever.
Lanceman on February 6, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Well, it would hurt China since they need Middle East oil.
Russia would love it since their oil dollars would quadruple.
I still don’t see why China doesn’t see the danger of an nuclear Iran dominating the gulf states.
SteveMG on February 6, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Once again, the Israelis will have to do our heavy lifting. I’m sure president Palin will reward them in due time.
Rebar on February 6, 2010 at 12:55 PM
It’s a thursday.
thomasaur on February 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Time to get another puppy….
HornetSting on February 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Branch Rickey on February 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM
The Neville Chamberlain syndrome.
Johan Klaus on February 6, 2010 at 1:00 PM
It’s a thursday.
thomasaur on February 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Is Ahmedinejad bringing Seinfeld back?
kingsjester on February 6, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Thanks so much for posting that. It was a wonderful video.
JellyToast on February 6, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Tell Obama that the word “gullible” isn’t in the dictionary. He’ll look it up.
RadClown on February 6, 2010 at 1:05 PM
MOHAMED: “YOU MUST PUT A BURQA ON LUCY.”
reliapundit on February 6, 2010 at 1:12 PM
No doubt it was very “unexpectedly”.
RJL on February 6, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Wait a minute…..
Why can’t Iran just enrich the low grade uranium they already have? Isn’t that the whole problem, the west is afraid that Iran is enriching uranium to be used in a weapon?
Skandia Recluse on February 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Well, Obama is certainly showing the Iranian regime what he’s made of.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama was taking notice, and hoping to emulate, Amadinijad’s response to political opposition.
I’d be outraged if Obama did this, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
thgrant on February 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Somebody please forward this to the Obamabot shill Jennifer Loven at the AP. She was on Brett Baer’s show earlier this week saying how Russia was likely onboard, and how we might then be able to persuade China, and sanctions would finally get done under Barry’s great leadership. She even took a swipe at the Hammer saying that their launch of that rocket with a turtle was a “ginormous” gap from tipping it with a nuke.
Oh Ms. Loven? Comments now? Or would you rather wait for the White House to tell you what to write about this?
BKeyser on February 6, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Maybe dinner jacket is going to be one of the ‘villians’ on Survivor.
I KEEL you, Jeff Probst.
HornetSting on February 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM
Why can’t Iran just enrich the low grade uranium they already have? Isn’t that the whole problem, the west is afraid that Iran is enriching uranium to be used in a weapon?
Iran says they want to enrich the uranium for peaceful nuclear purposes.
The proposal is that the west will enrich the uranium it has (or most of it) for those peaceful purposes but not to a degree of purity where it can used for nuclear weapons.
SteveMG on February 6, 2010 at 2:01 PM
Ahmadinejad: If you convert to Islam, we won’t nuke you.
Obama: Uh, er, uh, aaahh, …..***
BottomLine5 on February 6, 2010 at 2:03 PM
You missed the point.
Skandia Recluse on February 6, 2010 at 2:09 PM
Sorry, I can’t see a point in your post.
Iran can’t enrich enough uranium right now to the purity needed for either peaceful purposes or for nuclear weapons.
SteveMG on February 6, 2010 at 2:25 PM
Pakistan. Everyone is, and rightly so, worried about Pakistani nukes falling in to the hands of the Taliban. President Q-tip campaigned on how the real war was in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. But we are not to worry about the wingnuts in Iran having nukes? I don’t get it.
Obama can hem and haw all he wants over this. France, Germany, Israel, India and others are moving forward without his stupid ass over Iranian nuclear issues. It is a bad sign when the French are more aggressive on this than we are!
This is going to bite come the 2012 elections on a multitude of levels!
freeus on February 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM
exactly..
so why should we offer to do it for them?
apparently the obvious is difficult to see.
Skandia Recluse on February 6, 2010 at 2:42 PM
Even if we were able to get more sanctions imposed, the Iranians have already said it will not stop them. They are under the 3rd round of sanctions now. So how will another round of sanctions work, even if the Chinese get on board?
Answer — It will not. It has now been 15 months since the election of Teh Won (yes, it feels like 150 years). That means that 15 more months of enrichment activity has occurred. No one is reporting how many kilos of low enriched U the Iranians have now, and how many weapons this can yield when further enriched.
The Iranians have begun construction on new refineries to lessen the impact of a potential gasoline embargo. This is one of their weakest points, as they import most of their gas. The time to act, other than bombing them, is practically gone. The Norks have been under sanctions forever and they still developed the Bomb.
GnuBreed on February 6, 2010 at 2:43 PM
And why not? Their granddaddies were “surprised” when Neville Chamberlin’s ankle-grabbing display for der Fuhrer actually did NOT yield “peace in our time”. (Unless you dropped dead as soon as N.C. set foot on British soil.) The only ones “surprised” by Iran’s lies are President Obeyme and the rest of those who despise America.
oldleprechaun on February 6, 2010 at 2:46 PM
To stop them from enriching it for weapons purposes.
The plan is to enrich the uranium just enough for peaceful purposes but not for weapons purposes.
Once Iran gets the enriched uranium, they use it for their energy program and their enrichment program is no longer needed (so the plan goes).
In order to enrich it further for weapons purposes, they’ll have to take the uranium from the reactor and process it.
This will be revealed to everyone.
And then, so the fable goes, the world will unite with us and the Iranians will be forced to stop their actions.
It’s based on trust that the Iranians will abandon their enrichment program if we do the enrichment for them.
Fat chance.
SteveMG on February 6, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Relax, The Democratic Green Party of Democracy for Democracy that was once led by the heroic Neda, (leader of all secret Iranian democratic patriots for an Iran with freedom, democracy and purer Islam) shall bring justice for all and Islamic Democracy will reign supreme.
Send money to the Muslim Priests for Democracy c/o Iran, Iran.
BL@KBIRD on February 6, 2010 at 2:58 PM
The Iranian centrifuges can be reconfigured to enrich their low grade (3.5% enriched) U to weapons grade (80%+). It could also be done to get to the 20% level needed for their isotope reactor. Both of these steps would require kicking out the IAEA completely. But technically there is nothing stopping them from reaching weapons grade enrichment. Remember, their claimed reason for enrichment is to produce power plant grade (3.5%) U only.
As to your point about purity, I did read something about their process having a contaminant problem. If true, they can still reach the necessary enrichment levels but the stuff won’t quite work right in weapons. Note, though, that it will still work but at lower yields, and may not work at all in 2 stage thermonuclear devices. Thus they can make crude single stage kiloton yield bombs, but not 2 stage megaton bombs. Kiloton devices took out Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
GnuBreed on February 6, 2010 at 2:59 PM
Somebody in the Iranian power structure has clearly not received the memo. We in the U.S. were assured that all we had to do was elect this international idol named Barry Hussein as our president, and this Iranian problem would be solved. See, “Citizen of the World” Barry Hussein once lived in a Muslim nation when he was six years old, and he heard the Muslim call to prayer on a regular basis and he told the NY Times that he considers it to be one of the most beautiful sounds in the world. And Barry Hussein can recite portions of the Koran in the most beautiful Arabic accent. Also, as U.S. president, Barry Hussein has no problem bowing and scraping like a serf before Muslim potentates. Plus Barry Hussein recently gave a speech in Cairo(!) extolling the many virtues of the Muslim world.
So listen Iran: We’ve done our part. We put Barry Hussein in the most powerful position in the world. What more could we possibly do to convince you that we’re totally serious about appeasement? You’re just not playing fair now. Taking advantage of our gullibility and stupidity is just not right. Cut it out, or we may have to start making some more idle threats against you. More sanctions . . . or something equally as serious. We mean it.
AZCoyote on February 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM
I can’t see how either Russia or China would be happy about more nuclear armed states, especially given the potential for an Arab arms race and the increased possibility of nuclear material finding its way to Russia or China … both of which have long-standing Islam problems of their own.
My guess is they really believe that Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons or they believe they can contain the threat to themselves.
YiZhangZhe on February 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM
If any country could justify acquiring nuclear weapons tomorrow that country would be Iran, since it does have the worst neighbours of any country on the planet. However I am not convinced they do really want nuclear weapons.
It seems they are deliberately trying to create tension and to imply a threat.
Why? In order to attack Israel by proxy and thus strengthen themselves. How would this work?
By being coy about their nuclear ambitions, the Iranians hope to provoke an Israeli attack upon themselves. The Israelis will attack specific targets so the Iranian damage risk can be predicted in advance. After the attack Iran will prove to the world that they really didn’t have any nuclear weapons programme, whereupon the global condemnation of Israel will be huge. The resulting consumer boycott of Israel and possible sanctions will do far more to weaken Israel than Iran could ever have hoped to accomplish militarily. Hezbollah and Hamas will, however, be on hand to administer some retributive punishment as well. The events will raise Iranian prestige in the Islamic world and thereby reduce the threat to themselves from their Sunni Arab neighbours. Furthermore, as an ‘innocent victim’ of Israeli aggression they will be able to justify acquiring more powerful weapons including, perhaps, nuclear weapons and they will have supporters around the world for such armaments.
This seems like a level of cunning that I could expect from the Iranians.
YiZhangZhe on February 6, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Thank you!
yoda on February 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM
China has been busy expanding her sphere of influence in resource-rich Africa.
If the Muslims threaten either China or Russia with nukes, they’ll get wiped out in return, whereas Zero would merely apologize and grovel some more.
If the Gulf goes nuclear, the US will be the first to fall. Then China can collect on our debt and solve her oil problems by claiming Alaska.
Maquis on February 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM
you’re welcome guys… I was meaning to post that on a different blog, I had two comment sections open and didn’t realize I was putting it here… but at least it was somewhere it would be appreciated.
make a thread HotAir… it’s our hero’s birthday! we need a thread!
Kaptain Amerika on February 6, 2010 at 4:04 PM
ask and yee shall receive!
Kaptain Amerika on February 6, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Time for another “unclench the fist” speech from the Messiah. I’m sure that will reset the entire situation.
Meremortal on February 6, 2010 at 5:38 PM
But I thought Barry wrote Iran a letter…
Or was it this one?
‘Obama sends second letter to Iran’
albill on February 6, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Iran`s nuke facilities should have been bombed a long time ago. I thought Israel might take steps to protect herself at least. But no. And that is the really insane part of all of this.
Sherman1864 on February 6, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Imadinnerjacket- “blah blah blah, lie lie lie, death to america, death to israel, blah blah blah lie lie lie”
The fact that we are still trying to reason with a gov’t hell-bent on bringing about the 12th imam, in hopes of having ‘islamic world peace’ (if there is such a thing) is beyond ludicrous. Economic sanctions don’t work, even internal uprisings from the utterly disgusted population isn’t working, so the only thing left is to let Israel bomb the crap out of their nuclear facilities. He’s already threatened multiple times to wipe israel off the map, so they should be allowed to proactively retaliate.
viviliberoomuori on February 6, 2010 at 6:40 PM
As crazy as it seems, Iran may just want the nukes to create chaos in the world (nuke Israel) and wake up the Hidden Imam. That would be a sweet Shia win/win. And no 12ver can view the consequences with aught but laughter.
BL@KBIRD on February 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM
The fact that we are still trying to reason with a gov’t hell-bent on bringing about the 12th imam, in hopes of having ‘islamic world peace’ (if there is such a thing) is beyond ludicrous.
viviliberoomuori on February 6, 2010 at 6:40 PM
There has never been, nor could there ever be, anything approaching “Islamic World Peace.” Were the last “infidel” to die tonight, tomorrow the Muslims will turn on each other, destroying the “lesser races” and the “less pure” amongst them, until this beautiful planet is no more than a desolate lifeless rock strewn with bones.
Maquis on February 6, 2010 at 8:38 PM
I would wonder if Israel’s high muckey-mucks are nervous of doing something that would irritate The One. Given his attitude I’d hardly put it past him to look for a reason to impose sanctions on Israel or even direct military action, something they can ill-afford.
Dark-Star on February 6, 2010 at 9:54 PM
I agree with you. My point is that the Mullahs and dinnerjacket believe that by plunging the world into utter chaos, it will bring about the ‘coming of the 12th Imam” which they say will heal the world, and bring peace. Sounds insane, but that’s their belief system. But yeah, even if there were no “infidels or kafir” they’d turn on each other in a heartbeat. sunni vs. shiite has gone on ever since muhammed died. and it always will.
viviliberoomuori on February 6, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Roger that, the Twelvers have a bloody agenda, and Zero hasn’t a clue.
Maquis on February 6, 2010 at 11:05 PM
Ever since bush claimed that islam was a religion of peace, very few people know exactly how bad our problem is. Islam will not stop until we stand up and call a spade a spade, call this a religiously motivated war started by islam, (which is EXACTLY what it is) against non-believers, we will be hard pressed to succeed.
viviliberoomuori on February 6, 2010 at 11:25 PM
The definition is insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over in hope of achieving a different result.
drjohn on February 7, 2010 at 7:28 AM
I think you’re on to something. ;)
redridinghood on February 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM