Video: Rubio on the Census, immigration, and the Super Bowl

posted at 11:38 am on February 5, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Fox News wanted to get both Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio on at the same time for this spot, but Crist apparently demurrred. That gave Rubio, now the frontrunner in the GOP primary for the US Senate seat opened up by Mel Martinez’ retirement, a chance to get more specific about his objection to the manner in which the Census handles illegal immigrants. Rubio wants them counted without fear of being reported, but not included in totals used to apportion representation in Congress. He notes that states with higher percentages of illegal immigrants — like Florida — will have an unfair advantage over states that take law enforcement on immigration more seriously, which is a very distorted incentive:

Rubio picks the Saints to win it all on Sunday while giving a lot of respect to the Colts. I’m actually a bit surprised he gave an answer, but since Florida’s teams aren’t going to the big dance, a Saints pick won’t do him any harm.

This interview shows why Rubio has become the candidate to beat. He handles the media well, expresses conservative values in a clear manner, and gives every impression of a candidate willing to stick to his principles after Election Day, while Crist seems a little more interested in using the finger-in-the-wind approach.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Fox News wanted to get both Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio on at the same time for this spot, but Crist apparently demurrred

Those appointments for spray tan are hard to get.

Priorities.

Knucklehead on February 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

but not included in totals used to apportion representation in Congress

wise move.

ted c on February 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Crist is digging himself in a deeper hole by not appearing on TV vs. Rubio.

UltimateBob on February 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Those appointments for spray tan are hard to get.

Priorities.

Knucklehead on February 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

especially in Florida. no sun there…from what i hear.

ted c on February 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

but since Florida’s teams aren’t going to the big dance, a Saints pick won’t do him any harm.

Does anyone else hate the term “the big dance”. It’s on par with football players calling themselves “warriors” and every play in the NFL being “great”

This whole sentence is sad. Professing a favorite in the superbowl somehow should “do him harm” politically. That’s rather pathetic.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

i didn’t realize anyone was talking about immigration, at all. I can only recall people being concerned with illegal aliens, who are not immigrants of any sort.

neurosculptor on February 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM

ted c on February 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

You’d be surprised how many tanning salons there are here. Every stupid strip mall has one. It’s insane. But there is no real sun here right now. Not anything you’d get tan from, that’s for sure.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM

The interviewer was horrible. What’s up with that?

Rubio was great. Crist looks so plastic you want to put him your Tupperware drawer.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

since Florida’s teams aren’t going to the big dance, a Saints pick won’t do him any harm.

Aren’t the Saints the home team in the western Panhandle?

YYZ on February 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Funny,the fox dude,can’t remember his name,didn’t ask crist what he was going to do for his state,crist threw that in there and don’t you like the touch to the shoulder?What a personable guy!!:)

ohiobabe on February 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Excellant answer on the immigration issue.

fourdeucer on February 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

He notes that states with higher percentages of illegal immigrants — like Florida — will have an unfair advantage over states that take law enforcement on immigration more seriously, which is a very distorted incentive:

This is a very good point that not many are making. One of my biggest problems with a large wellfare state is that it creates perverse incentives to be unproductive. I’m glad to see Rubio mention this.

BadgerHawk on February 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Adios Crist.

Hola Rubio!

portlandon on February 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Are you talking about the same country that, with the help of the media, can morph a pick up truck into a plus or minus in an election bid?

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Without seeing Crist does that mean we have 6 weeks more or less of winter…

right2bright on February 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Aren’t the Saints the home team in the western Panhandle?

YYZ on February 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Or Falcons.

BadgerHawk on February 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Breesus Redentor?

abobo on February 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Marco Rubio is spot on…

Any other canidates watching might learn a thingy or two.

Seven Percent Solution on February 5, 2010 at 11:52 AM

This interview shows why Rubio has become the candidate to beat. He handles the media well, expresses conservative values in a clear manner, and gives every impression of a candidate willing to stick to his principles after Election Day, while Crist seems a little more interested in using the finger-in-the-wind approach.

Alos, HE’S FREAKIN’ HOT!

SouthernGent on February 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

The dynamic of this Rep race is pretty amazing, considering – a Cuban American from West Miami has made up 35-40 polling points in just 6 months.

RINO’s need to wake up.

I posted yesterday – I am convinced Crist doesn’t care and is leveraging for a Cabinet position with Obama, to raise his national exposure – and possibly a “moderate” Rep run in 2012.

Odie1941 on February 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

ted c on February 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM
You’d be surprised how many tanning salons there are here. Every stupid strip mall has one. It’s insane. But there is no real sun here right now. Not anything you’d get tan from, that’s for sure.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM

No tan. Just pale goosebumps. I pick Marco to win, with Crist out of the money.

Crusader Rabbit on February 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Rubio is correct on every issue, except for the super bowl.

Colts are going to walk away with it. Early.

portlandon on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Fox News wanted to get both Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio on at the same time for this spot, but Crist apparently demurrred.

What will Shep think about THAT!?

DrStock on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Alos, HE’S FREAKIN’ HOT!

SouthernGent on February 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

I *ahem* did notice. LOL*

I think the GOP needs to run someone unattractive. It’s starting to be a theme.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

With all due respect, what illegals are going to confess to being illegal??

If they do admit it and are counted, it will take the Dems about five minutes and one ACLU suit to get them legalized.

PattyJ on February 5, 2010 at 11:56 AM

I’m actually a bit surprised he gave an answer, but since Florida’s teams aren’t going to the big dance, a Saints pick won’t do him any harm.

The pan handle isn’t far from New Orleans. I suspect there are a lot of Saints fans over there.

MarkTheGreat on February 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM

This whole sentence is sad. Professing a favorite in the superbowl somehow should “do him harm” politically. That’s rather pathetic.

this comment is what is pathetic

KeepOhioRed on February 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM

I like his idea but it will never happen that way.

1. It won’t help the donks .
2. It will show the real damage that illegals are doing to our country.

jukin on February 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM

What will Shep think about THAT!?

DrStock on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Shep experienced shrinkage of the “George Costanza” type when he heard this.

UltimateBob on February 5, 2010 at 12:00 PM

I think the census will get a read on the population, except where the anti-immigration sentiment is high. Those areas will, naturally, not gain any trust that this won’t be used against people for deportation.

Can’t blame them for the lack of trust in those areas.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Or Falcons.

BadgerHawk on February 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Fortunately for Rubio, the Falcon’s aren’t going to the big dance. (Sorry lorien)

MarkTheGreat on February 5, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Rubio is correct on every issue, except for the super bowl.

Colts are going to walk away with it. Early.

portlandon on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Objectively speaking, you are correct.

However, for political reasons, Rubio has to support the “home” team (or at least the team nearest to his home).

UltimateBob on February 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

I posted yesterday – I am convinced Crist doesn’t care and is leveraging for a Cabinet position with Obama, to raise his national exposure – and possibly a “moderate” Rep run in 2012.

Odie1941 on February 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

I just don’t see how getting more closely associated with Obama is a good career move for anyone. Especially someone who claims to be a Republican.

MarkTheGreat on February 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Or Falcons.

BadgerHawk on February 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM

There’s a state law that says you can’t be a florida resident and root for the falcons. Or the panthers.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Rubio wants them counted without fear of being reported, but not included in totals used to apportion representation in Congress.

Hmm. If he were from Montana (which supposedly lost a seat to California due to California being a vacation destination for illegals), I might see his position from a purely parochial point of view. Representation is Constitutionally apportioned solely on the basis of headcounts (we stopped all that Indians not taxed crap in 1944, and the slavery stuff in 1865), and headcounts have included both illegal and legal aliens for as far back as apportionment has occurred, I don’t see where Rubio’s argument finds purchase within our legal system.

unclesmrgol on February 5, 2010 at 12:04 PM

I can only recall people being concerned with illegal aliens, who are not immigrants of any sort.

neurosculptor on February 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM

The language is so subverted now that we should probably just dump it and invent a new language. I remember that smuggler in the Ramos and Compean case was being referred to by the Bush Administration as an “immigrant” because he drove over the border for an hour to drop off a thousand pounds of weed.

Buddahpundit on February 5, 2010 at 12:04 PM

This whole sentence is sad. Professing a favorite in the superbowl somehow should “do him harm” politically. That’s rather pathetic.

I guess you don’t come from a part of the country that takes it’s football seriously. This is life and death stuff don’t ya know.

MarkTheGreat on February 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

There’s a state law that says you can’t be a florida resident and root for the falcons. Or the panthers.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

When I lived in southern Alabama there were a ton of Falcons fans relative to Saints fans, so I just assumed the pan handle would be the same, with some support going to Tampa.

BadgerHawk on February 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

MarkTheGreat on February 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

This idea is on par with Lawton Chiles (former FL governor), a few years back, wearing a tri-rimmed hat with the Gators/Seminoles/Hurricanes on it (when the Gators/Seminoles were playing that week) because he didn’t want to pick a favorite in the game. It was a joke.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM

There’s a state law that says you can’t be a florida resident and root for the falcons. Or the panthers.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

There’s a law in Illinois that says you can’t run for political office unless you beat your wife.

Knucklehead on February 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM

a chance to get more specific about his objection to the manner in which the Census handles illegal immigrants. Rubio wants them counted without fear of being reported, but not included in totals used to apportion representation in Congress.

Has Marco Rubio explained WHAT WE SHOULD DO with all those illegal aliens? He definitely has a better stance than the queer little Oompahloompah.
I agree they should be counted:
So that the powers that be and other idiots can see just how bad the illegal alien situation is in the US.
But, I would also like to know WHAT JOBS these illegal aliens are holding, as would the 10% of unemployed American citizens would like to know.
And I would also like to know if said illegal aliens are partaking in entitlement programs. And, how many anchor babies are we, the American taxpayer, are currently supporting as well.
It would also be nice to know if said illegal aliens have committed any crimes in the US, besides breaking into the US, such as identity theft, murder, rape, etc…..

HornetSting on February 5, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Politically, Rubio is spot on. No disgrace that he doesn’t know football.

Extrafishy on February 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Aren’t the Saints the home team in the western Panhandle?

YYZ on February 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Or Falcons.

BadgerHawk on February 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM

No. The Gators are!

;)

Texas Gal on February 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM

while Crist seems a little more interested in using the finger-in-the-wind approach.

….I thought it was the thumb up the ass approach. ;)

HornetSting on February 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM

I just don’t see how getting more closely associated with Obama is a good career move for anyone. Especially someone who claims to be a Republican.

MarkTheGreat on February 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

I agree with you, however Crist seems to think this is a wise move, hence his “Pro Obama” stance on another Stimulus Bill and a recent photo op for the light rail system.

Other RINO’s are committing the same political suicide and they are being dealt with at the polls.

Again – 35-40 points have been made up by Rubio in the past 6 months – you would think that alone would wake Crist up, but no – full steam ahead…

Odie1941 on February 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM

So I shouldn’t even bother to make dip for the super bowl?

OK.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 12:14 PM

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Depends on what you’d plan to dip in it, I suppose.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Geaux Saints!!!

Geaux Rubio!!!

roux on February 5, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Depends on what you’d plan to dip in it, I suppose.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:16 PM

I don’t get your remark.

Must be above my pay grade. *haha

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 12:19 PM

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Depends on what you’d plan to dip in it, I suppose.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Moron humor~I need to get over there more often.

HornetSting on February 5, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Woo-hoo! Love to see conservatives do a good job! Go, Rubio!

SheofTwoMinds on February 5, 2010 at 12:21 PM

AnninCA,

“Dipping” is one way the members of a certain secret society identify one another.

SheofTwoMinds on February 5, 2010 at 12:24 PM

“Dipping” is one way the members of a certain secret society identify one another.

SheofTwoMinds on February 5, 2010 at 12:24 PM

I still don’t get it. I do get I’m revealing some stupidity on my part, however. :)

Oh well, won’t be the last time I’m uncool in life.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Ann,

It’s not stupid at all if you don’t get an inside joke. Each one of us could reference some inside joke that other commenters wouldn’ get.

I was being purposely obtuse, partly because I’m not sure if the “dippers” want to be outed.

SheofTwoMinds on February 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM

I remember that smuggler in the Ramos and Compean case was being referred to by the Bush Administration as an “immigrant” because he drove over the border for an hour to drop off a thousand pounds of weed.

Buddahpundit on February 5, 2010 at 12:04 PM

heh. Funny how that works. By the way these people call all illegal aliens “immigrants” a person stopping over in New York on a flight to Canada is an “immigrant” too.

They won’t stop until they’ve destroyed our language. Killing our nation and system isn’t quite enough for these folks. They want total obliteration left in their useless wake.

neurosculptor on February 5, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Rubio wants them counted without fear of being reported, but not included in totals used to apportion representation in Congress.

If he doesn’t want them used to apportion representation, why count them at all? Last i checked, that was the pretty much the point of the census. People who don”t have the decency to enter this country legally shouldn’t be recognized at all, on any level, except to be deported.

clearbluesky on February 5, 2010 at 12:39 PM

When Crist put his hand on the interviewer’s shoulder, I cringed.

edshepp on February 5, 2010 at 12:46 PM

If he doesn’t want them used to apportion representation, why count them at all? Last i checked, that was the pretty much the point of the census. People who don”t have the decency to enter this country legally shouldn’t be recognized at all, on any level, except to be deported.

clearbluesky on February 5, 2010 at 12:39 PM

I’d say so we can slap La Raza, Maldef, Lulac, and Mexico with the numbers of people that are breaking the law in OUR country~they came in without asking, while millions around the world wait, jump thru hoops, and do the paperwork.
Proximity to the border should not give them the right to stay~also, so we can finally put the 12 to 20 million numbers to rest~that is just the tip, probably just the number of anchor babies that we are now counting as ‘citizens’ and supporting until they are 18 and can petition to bring their parents and the rest of their family here…yeah, it doesn’t end.
I agree~find them, count them, and deport them.
Go after their employers and STOP paying for them with our money.

HornetSting on February 5, 2010 at 12:49 PM

I think the GOP needs to run someone unattractive. It’s starting to be a theme.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Can’t help it if democraps have the corner on “ugly”….I still shudder over Nancy, and Ted, and Todd…

lovingmyUSA on February 5, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Depends on what you’d plan to dip in it, I suppose.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Ace always makes sure to have pudding available…

lovingmyUSA on February 5, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Okay, I have asked in the past for clarification on Ace’s pudding comments, is anyone going to help or is there a secret handshake?

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Okay, I have asked in the past for clarification on Ace’s pudding comments, is anyone going to help or is there a secret handshake?

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM

There was a show on Mtv in the 90’s called The State and there was a character on there who would always say that he liked something so much he wanted to dip his balls in it. So that’s what people at Ace’s say whenever something they like happens and pudding eventually became the dip of choice.

clearbluesky on February 5, 2010 at 1:23 PM

It’s a Moron thing Cindy–
And they’re all like, it’s this long-running gag over at AoSHQ blog, that sort of turns around the whole not-very-well-thought-through “tea bagging” rant that the lefty douchebags have been on since summer, and that in order to celebrate this momentous occasion, and embrace the . . . meataphor…

lovingmyUSA on February 5, 2010 at 1:23 PM

You just had to ask, didn’t you Cindy…

lovingmyUSA on February 5, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Damn. Now Ann has another place to annoy us with her recipes and general stupidity.

HornetSting on February 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM

My only complaint: Hurricane Katrina was almost four-and-a-half years ago. Get over it already!

madmonkphotog on February 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM

OT: Rubio is easy on the eyes.

nyx on February 5, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Carry on

nyx on February 5, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Rubio will be getting the votes of the three eligible voters in my house.

So long Chuck. You’ll be free to sit on the beaches in Pinellas county and work on that tan.

raz0r on February 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM

clearbluesky on February 5, 2010 at 12:39 PM

It’d allow us (Florida) to show just how bad the illegal alien problem is. The numbers won’t 100%, but would be close enough.

We could then demonstrate the negative effect they have on state resources, etc. And as HornetSting mentioned, find ’em, deport ’em.

raz0r on February 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM

OT: Rubio is easy on the eyes.

nyx on February 5, 2010 at 1:33 PM

And that’s before he opens his mouth…Good-looking AND smart=Hot!!

lovingmyUSA on February 5, 2010 at 1:48 PM

What will Shep think about THAT!?

DrStock on February 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

I prefer to call him Shemp.

chewmeister on February 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Thanks for the explanation everyone, very helpful.

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Women. Of course may substitute boobies for balls. As necessary.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM
Women. Of course may substitute boobies for balls. As necessary.

lorien1973 on February 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Moronettes can substitute whipped cream…

lovingmyUSA on February 5, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Boy is Rubio an attractive candidate in every meaning of the word, and boy does Crist look more and more plastic in every meaning of the word!

KickandSwimMom on February 5, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Damn. Now Ann has another place to annoy us with her recipes and general stupidity.

HornetSting on February 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM

I do have a terrific ham dip that is a huge hit. I personally am not that crazy about it. Bit too sweet for my own taste.

But it is truly popular.

It’s made with canned ham, believe it or not. Cream cheese, canned ham, worstershire sauce, and catsup.

Go figure.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Boy is Rubio an attractive candidate in every meaning of the word, and boy does Crist look more and more plastic in every meaning of the word!

KickandSwimMom on February 5, 2010 at 2:15 PM

LOL*

He’s almost like some movie version of a politician, isn’t he?

I mean…..really.

AnninCA on February 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Crist seems a little more interested in using the finger-in-the-wind approach.

A little? (*snicker-richter factor 4*)

Blacksmith8 on February 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM

However, for political reasons, Rubio has to support the “home” team (or at least the team nearest to his home).

UltimateBob on February 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Well more importantly a lot of Saints fans from New Orleans don’t live there anymore. There was a displacement of Saints fans throughout the country. That’s a lot of potential voters. Indy fans don’t move around much, the only way they get displaced is through the speaker system at home games.

LevStrauss on February 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM

I live on the FL panhandle. The place is plastered with Saints banners and “Who dat” on every store marquee. NoLa is only 3 hours from Pensacola. I’ve never seen Falcon gear here. Jax Jags occasionally. College football is more popular than NFL. FSU, Florida, LSU, Auburn, and Alabama fans are legion here.

I’m glad to see Rubio getting more national exposure. Crist is looking lamer by the day.

ExcessivelyDiverted on February 5, 2010 at 4:15 PM

This Is Not Your Father’s Census — The United States Census in the 21st Century

Long gone are the days of completing the US census for the sake of civic duty or to ensure you are represented in Congress.

LifeTrek on February 5, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Hmm. If he were from Montana (which supposedly lost a seat to California due to California being a vacation destination for illegals), I might see his position from a purely parochial point of view. Representation is Constitutionally apportioned solely on the basis of headcounts (we stopped all that Indians not taxed crap in 1944, and the slavery stuff in 1865), and headcounts have included both illegal and legal aliens for as far back as apportionment has occurred, I don’t see where Rubio’s argument finds purchase within our legal system.

unclesmrgol on February 5, 2010 at 12:04 PM

You’re really counting the slaves and Indians in the same group as Illegal aliens? I think you are painting too broad a stroke here.

Slaves nor Indians were not illegal residents of this nation at anytime (even when they didn’t have the same rights as whites, they were acknowledged as being a part of the population)

Under your proposal, the census would have to send surveys to hotels and resorts to count the tourists as part of the district as they would be part of a straight up head count on that day as you suggest.

Honestly, the problematic issues with illegal aliens haven’t even been acknowledged or addressed in anything even remotely approaching a meaningful way until the last 25-30 years and even then we all know it has been much attention paid to the issue.

MannyT-vA on February 5, 2010 at 6:05 PM