Quotes of the day
posted at 10:03 pm on February 5, 2010 by Allahpundit
“Her growing cast of advisers and support system could be working in the service of any number of goals: a presidential run, a de facto role as the leader of the Tea Party movement, a lucrative career as a roving media entity — or all of the above. Ms. Palin represents a new breed of unelected public figure operating in an environment in which politics, news media and celebrity are fused as never before. Whether she ever runs for anything else, Ms. Palin has already achieved a status that has become an end in itself: access to an electronic bully pulpit, a staff to guide her, an enormous income and none of the bother or accountability of having to govern or campaign for office…
“‘She used to be a moderate Republican in Alaska, but I think all of these attacks have hardened her and made her absolutely more conservative,’ said John Coale, a Washington lawyer and longtime Democratic fund-raiser who helped Ms. Palin set up her political action committee…
“As she jumps more into the national political swamp, Ms. Palin is proving as divisive in Republican circles as she was within the fractious McCain campaign…
“‘I’m disappointed by her endorsement of Paul,’ said William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard and one of the conservatives credited with ‘discovering’ Ms. Palin in 2007. ‘But they always disappoint you.’”
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“Nearly 3,000 pages of e-mails that Todd Palin exchanged with state officials, which were released to msnbc.com and NBC News by the state of Alaska under its public records law, draw a picture of a Palin administration where the governor’s husband got involved in a judicial appointment, monitored contract negotiations with public employee unions, received background checks on a corporate CEO, added his approval or disapproval to state board appointments and passed financial information marked ‘confidential’ from his oil company employer to a state attorney…
“The still-secret e-mails between Todd Palin and senior officials reach into countless areas of state government and politics: potential board appointees, constituent complaints, use of the state jet, oil and gas production, marine regulation, gas pipeline bids, postsecondary education, wildfires, native Alaskan issues, the state effort to save the Matanuska Maid dairy, budget planning, potential budget vetoes, oil shale leasing, ‘strategy for responding to media allegations,’ staffing at the mansion, pier diem payments to the governor for travel, ‘strategy for responding to questions about pregnancy,’ potential cuts to the governor’s staff, ‘confidentiality issues,’ Bureau of Land Management land transfers and trespass issues and requests to the U.S. transportation secretary…
“‘Like many married couples, including political ‘power couples,’ it is common for a spouse to play the role of key advisor to the other spouse,’ [Palin lawyer Thomas Van Flein] wrote. ‘The Palins were no different. Todd Palin had official and unofficial duties, but one thing was clear: he was a key advisor to Governor Palin and involved in her efforts to improve the State of Alaska.’”
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No, the leader who raised the taxes and then quit ought to crack open the economics books.
AshleyTKing on February 6, 2010 at 12:46 AM
Yeah, and he also helped people take land and spat in the face of Constitutional law…
MeatHeadinCA on February 6, 2010 at 12:46 AM
Yup!
I’ve watched them work sheep since I was a kid. A farmer in Ireland told me. “Hell, lass, you don’t train them they just do it.
katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2010 at 12:47 AM
Thanks for the link; you are among the best HA contributors. I see your work over at Ace too.
Geochelone on February 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM
I like Todd Palin.
This means that he’s not just a “happy-go-lucky” Guy.
The Guy is also a straight thinker.
Good choice for a hubby, Mrs. Palin.
SUPPORTIVE, WISE, PROTECTIVE AND A HUNK!
TheAlamos on February 6, 2010 at 12:52 AM
Are you referring to Worcester v. Georgia? That was a strange thing for Marshall to recognize an Indian national sovereignty inside the boundaries of Georgia. Cherokee criminal laws directly violated US and state constitutions.
AshleyTKing on February 6, 2010 at 12:53 AM
O/T but anyone know where Sapwolf might be staying in Nashville at the Tea Party Convention?
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/02/06/us/06palin_CA0.html
gary4205 on February 6, 2010 at 12:54 AM
Even if you believe that Marshall’s ruling was wrong, Jackson blatantly went against the court. This is no good for Checks and Balances. Now… why was Jackson actually OK with people taking Cherokee land and sending the Cherokee off to a reservation (welfare???)?
MeatHeadinCA on February 6, 2010 at 12:55 AM
Hehe
MeatHeadinCA on February 6, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Gawd that’s funny.
Geochelone on February 6, 2010 at 12:56 AM
The majority of Alaska’s income is from oil revenues. Where the hell do you suppose they are going to get anything for the state if not from that source? Sarah Palin as Governor had an obligation to maximize those revenues and she did.
Now the market for oil has dropped due to the economy and so must the taxes and spending. This is not that difficult to understand. Sarah Palin took advantage of the high oil prices to provide benefits for Alaskans when she could.
If I had oil on my land I would do exactly the same thing. You charge what the market can bear.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 12:58 AM
The Cherokee were welcome to stay if they accepted American law. Since many did not, then they had to move west. Most who moved before 1838, who went by taxpayer provided water transports, lived. Those who went overland, due to their fear of water, many got sick and died on the Trail of Tears.
All of those who reached Oklahoma got tools, good fertile land, money for the lands they gave up in Georgia and Tennessee.
Some Cherokee later served in the Confederate armies.
AshleyTKing on February 6, 2010 at 1:00 AM
Perhaps. I don’t think our attitude toward any industry should be to suck out every last tax dollar we can.
Right now, those taxes are hurting the golden goose.
AshleyTKing on February 6, 2010 at 1:02 AM
I agree.
Right now those taxes should be lowered to reflect the altered economic situation.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 1:05 AM
Yeah… not really gonna agree with you there. Now what about his stance towards the SCOTUS?
MeatHeadinCA on February 6, 2010 at 1:06 AM
Eh… I’m off, without an Ann siting :(
MeatHeadinCA on February 6, 2010 at 1:07 AM
THAT WAS FUNNY and great!
Kini on February 6, 2010 at 1:08 AM
I don’t know about the best… but I do get around. :)
Enoxo on February 6, 2010 at 1:09 AM
I’m just glad that we dodged the bullet and didn’t get an embarrassingly verbally inept Vice President into office.
TexasJew on February 6, 2010 at 1:10 AM
New York Times and MSNBC. What a sterling record of objective, in depth, critical analysis.
davo on February 6, 2010 at 1:11 AM
Gird your joins, my fellows. GIRD your loins…
White House Prepares for Possibility of 2 Supreme Court Vacancies
Enoxo on February 6, 2010 at 1:13 AM
He never said “Mr. Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it.” That is a myth. The SCOTUS did not require executive enforcement of its ruling. So Jackson let it be. Just as he let be South Carolina’s insult of nullifying the force bill. He was wise.
AshleyTKing on February 6, 2010 at 1:14 AM
So he might get the chance to replace 2 bleeding-heart liberal judges with 2 more bleeding-heart liberal judges. Now if one of the conservative justices was retiring…that would be huge news.
uknowmorethanme on February 6, 2010 at 1:19 AM
FIFY.
Plus, they will be young progressives… who will out last him.
Enoxo on February 6, 2010 at 1:21 AM
Are you Matthias?
katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2010 at 1:23 AM
OT: But very funny. Didn’t Kerry understand that Kirk was out after the MA election?
onlineanalyst on February 6, 2010 at 1:26 AM
And MSM reports about Michelle My Bell’s influence over her spouse are due out any second….
The same Michelle that got a 150% pay raise when the hospital she worked for got a 1 million dollar earmark when her husband was a U.S. Senator and she was busy kicking patients out into the street. Da’ Chicago way…
The “boy who cried wolf” seem’s appropriate.
MSM attacks Palin family. This is news how?
Hog Wild on February 6, 2010 at 1:27 AM
One thing I would suggest to her is to not show up tomorrow night at the Birthers fest.
After Wingnut Daily’s Leader spoke tonight, I think she would be better off keeping her distance from these Far Right kooks.
Now I get why the other Tea Party Groups avoided this Convention like the plague.
AprilOrit on February 6, 2010 at 1:27 AM
Fixed that for Kerry.
Enoxo on February 6, 2010 at 1:32 AM
That was well put, if you were writing for The Nation or Mother Jones or The Huffington Post.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 1:33 AM
First Dude.
atheling on February 6, 2010 at 1:39 AM
New medication?
atheling on February 6, 2010 at 1:42 AM
Well, Dr.Goebbels is a bit of an embarassment, his special needs notwithstanding.
I was going to write that it is foolish to imagine that Sarah Palin can make a serious lasting impression on this country if she resigns from competitive electoral politics. She is neither a professional polemicist nor a public intellectual but a born campaigner. Seeking and holding national office is the only way she is likely to significantly influence national policy in the long run. A good portion of her support surely derives from the expectation that she will eventually run for President. If she fritters away opportunities to progress toward that end, the support will evaporate.
Seth Halpern on February 6, 2010 at 1:42 AM
Really, really late to this thread so forgive me but having a spouse involved in their significant others life in politics is unusual how? May I remind you of Hill and Bill. I am so dam.ed sick of this constant attack On Sarah Palin. Can’t the media find any other scandals? Try some Democrats I’m sure their are some worthy subjects.
sandee on February 6, 2010 at 1:50 AM
+100
atheling on February 6, 2010 at 1:50 AM
It’s called free enterprise. How that becomes a leftist trait in your mind is something known only to you.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 1:50 AM
If the media is looking for something to investigate, how about the falsified numbers the Obama administration produced today for the jobs numbers. Some kooky math don’t you think?
sandee on February 6, 2010 at 1:58 AM
Not kooky math, no. Deceptive, and flagrant lying math, sure.
The unadjusted numbers gave an unemployment rate of 10.6%. They figured a .6% was too much to bare, so they removed around a million workers from the job pool into the “discouraged” pool that don’t get counted. This caused the rate to drop .3% to 9.7% and they were happy to show that.
Of course, it’s going to adjusted upwards in a few weeks, and likely will peak over 10% again in the revision.
(Not to mention next year’s numbers when they discover they misplaced 800,000 jobs they lost, like last year.)
Enoxo on February 6, 2010 at 2:02 AM
I’m just glad that we dodged the bullet and didn’t get an embarrassingly verbally inept Vice President into office.
TexasJew on February 6, 2010 at 1:10 AM
Wake up we did!
heshtesh on February 6, 2010 at 2:10 AM
onlineanalyst on February 6, 2010 at 1:26 AM
Oh yeah Brown was quoted as saying “Do you hear us now?!!”
Bwhahahahahahahahah!!!!
sonnyspats1 on February 6, 2010 at 2:25 AM
State government is not free enterprise. If the state has the right to gouge every last penny from oil companies then they have the right to gouge every penny from you.
pedestrian on February 6, 2010 at 2:32 AM
The land and oil is owned by the state of Alaska. Sarah Palin has the same obligation to maximize the usage from that as a CEO has for a Corporation.
“The Alaska tax is imposed on the net profit earned on each barrel of oil pumped from state-owned land, after deducting costs for production and transportation…”
If the oil companies wished to have no part in the leases on those lands they are under no obligation to do so.
They do choose to participate and not being fools, it is not out of any weepy sentiment. They want the profits to be had from those leases and Sarah Palin ensured the Alaskan shared in those profits.
It is exactly what anyone would have done if they were privately owned.
If you think the lands should be privatized that is a separate argument.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 2:45 AM
Heh, T.J…. Long time no see. Have missed your insightful commentary.
Took me a couple of seconds to grasp that that post was sarcasm :-)
LegendHasIt on February 6, 2010 at 3:07 AM
Bears repeating: Thanks Enoxo.
LegendHasIt on February 6, 2010 at 3:16 AM
Oh, oh! I know! That jerk has moved over to Daily Caller so that he can gloat over Treacher’s injuries and snark at him for running into that government SUV. And to tell him that he’s a bad writer and pathetic and stupid – you know, Vox Bullfeathers’ usual M.O.
The dumb toad really holds a grudge, and he’s getting it all out while Treach is laid up in hospital. I trust everyone will remember how deftly Treacher showed him up as a fool here months ago on the ‘Proofer’ (not ‘birther’!) threads.
[sorry for being late to see your question, probably no one will see my reply now that it's the middle of the night for most of you folks... it's mid afternoon for me over here in Bangkok]
Agam on February 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM
I can’t think of a single mistake she has made so far. She has been ahead of the game on every occasion and has not succumbed to the ankle biting jackals that make up her detractors.
As long as Obama and the Dems head toward the “precipice” at breakneck speed her position for 2012 improves by the hour.
davo on February 6, 2010 at 3:54 AM
So basically the revelation of this article is the “spouse” of a politician are involved with the politics of the office the politician holds?
I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you! Shocked!
I wonder did Hillary have anything to do with the office of the President when Bill was President?
How bout Skippy’s wife?
How bout Nancy Reagan?
How bout Eleanor Roosevelt?
DSchoen on February 6, 2010 at 4:59 AM
Good points. I’ve said it’s time for traditional conservatives to lay off the Kristol meth.
The Dean on February 6, 2010 at 5:18 AM
Hey everyone, just so you know; voxpopuli is a colossal POS. But you already knew that, right?
Here is his voxpopuli’s comment to Jim Treacher over at DC Caller. Jim couldn’t respond since he was having knee surgery after getting run over by Hit and Run Driver.
http://dctrawler.dailycaller.com/2010/02/05/this-pretty-much-covers-what-we-know-so-far-about-the-vehicular-assault-on-my-person/comment-page-2/#comments
Have a nice day. And if you happen to run into voxpopuli be sure to share your thoughts with him.
Geochelone on February 6, 2010 at 5:56 AM
From Seinfeld and Marla the Virgin:
MARLA: Contest?! A contest! This is what you do with your friends?
JERRY: No, it was just a bet. I mean, it actually started with George and his mother-
MARLA: I don’t want to hear another word. And to think how close I came to you being the one! I must have been out of my mind.
(She leaves, slamming the door. Jerry hangs his head, then directs his attention to his window. Eagerly walking over, he sits in his chair, staring at the woman)
(Scene cuts to Elaine. Marla walks out in front of her, trying to hail a taxi)
ELAINE: Marla? Hi, oh, I’m glad I ran into you-
MARLA: I don’t want to have anything to do with you or your perverted friends. (Confused, Elaine moves closer) Ooohh, get away from me! You’re horrible.
Horrible! All of you!
Mr_Magoo on February 6, 2010 at 6:48 AM
Precisely. Maybe it’s reverse sexism, or something.
BTW: Who’s Skippy?
Mr_Magoo on February 6, 2010 at 6:50 AM
BINGO! Sockpuppet alert.
fossten on February 6, 2010 at 7:15 AM
Daniels helped get the public/private Indiana Economic Development Corporation off the ground. Reason enough to stay away from him.
pugwriter on February 6, 2010 at 7:18 AM
It’s not what anyone would have done if it’s privately owned. You’re confusing royalties and taxes, private enterprise can’t just decide to take a percentage of someone elses profits because they want to.
Leaving your defence of the owner state aside you’re also under the impression that high taxes is somehow maximizing their resoures, if that’s true why isn’t anybody doing any exploritory drilling this year on state land? For that matter why isn’t Conoco/Phillips doing any new drilling at all this year on Alaskan land? High taxes, espeacialy windfall profit taxes kill reinvestment and developement and it’s no exception to Palin or Alaska no matter how much you wish it was.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM
I hate fu*kin celebrities. We already have a 3rd world cult/groupthink mentality that gave Ogabe his American idol win. Don’t let the MSM succeed in their attempt to turn her into one, and heaven forbid Sarah Palin herself chooses celebrity over politics.
JiangxiDad on February 6, 2010 at 8:20 AM
Because they are tied up in court with lawsuits from every tree hugging group in the USA. Most of these jerks have never seen Alaska or any other form of nature outside Central Park or National Geographic.
katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2010 at 8:23 AM
Let’s not pretend the producers lack of devolopment is because of tree huggers. These are quotes from the oil contractors’ conference last month.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM
Sorry, that is called the price of doing business.
katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM
Lawsuits from a$$clowns.
Low capital reserves from buying back 25bl in stock.
They found 4 new sites in 2008 and didn’t need to explore any further in 2009/10.
Are you really this dumb?
exsanguine on February 6, 2010 at 8:52 AM
So is Greta Van Susteren’s husband saying that Sarah Palin really is more of a Populist than a conservative? A moderate Republican is a RINO.
RedRobin145 on February 6, 2010 at 8:59 AM
I’m dumb? You state Conoco/Phillips doesn’t need to explore anymore because they developed four sites in 2008? And I’m dumb? You don’t even have a clue what your talking about but yet somehow believe you’re smarter then me? Let’s test that?
So if Conoco/Phillips and BP only use their existing sites on Alaskan land for production how long is the pipeline going to be operational?
You guys are unbelievable.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 9:04 AM
RINO!!
blatantblue on February 6, 2010 at 9:04 AM
The land and oil is owned by the state of Alaska. Sarah Palin has the same obligation to maximize the usage from that as a CEO has for a Corporation.
“The Alaska tax is imposed on the net profit earned on each barrel of oil pumped from state-owned land, after deducting costs for production and transportation…”
If the oil companies wished to have no part in the leases on those lands they are under no obligation to do so.
They do choose to participate and not being fools, it is not out of any weepy sentiment. They want the profits to be had from those leases and Sarah Palin ensured the Alaskan shared in those profits.
It is exactly what anyone would have done if they were privately owned.
If you think the lands should be privatized that is a separate argument.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 2:45 AM
You actually understand free market. I have a feeling some of these others have never participated in a real free market. It’s a very competetive type of market to be in, which is why it drives so much wealth and lifts the entire population from true poverty. I have a hunch these liberals think about floating in a field of flowers when they see the words free market.
wheelgun on February 6, 2010 at 9:08 AM
Again with this high taxes is just the price of doing business garbage. Do any of you Palin supporters have any actual political and idealogical convictions or does conservatism go right out the window when Palin does something? That’s not politics, it’s American Idol.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 9:09 AM
At least we aren’t Conoco ho’s
katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2010 at 9:12 AM
He doesn’t understand free markets or he would acknowledge that Palin’s windfall profit tax increase is damaging Alaska’s future. Instead he excuses it. Only Palin supporters would argue that high taxes are the cornerstone of capitalism.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM
Again straight from The Daily Kos, are you against all corporations keeping the majority of their profits or just big oil?
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 9:17 AM
Again straight from The Daily Kos, are you against all corporations keeping the majority of their profits or just big oil?
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 9:17 AM
katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2010 at 9:27 AM
Excellent. His RINO tears taste so sweet…
Rae on February 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Allah was so anxious to hype the “leaked BP email story”, he neglected to include this “trivial” piece of info from Palin’s attorney:
Consistency is not necessarily a hallmark for investigative journalists, but certainly truth should be. Let’s look at the most serious accusation made. The article posits that Todd Palin “passed financial information marked ‘confidential’ from his oil company employer to a state attorney.” The author clearly implies that Todd Palin, who was not a member of the British Petroleum management team, obtained secret “financial” information and surreptitiously gave it to a State assistant attorney general. The true facts are as follows: Todd Palin received an email from a third party (an email that was apparently making the rounds in Alaska) and he forwarded that to a state attorney on August 29, 2007. But the information in the email itself was dated February 19, 2004–three and half years earlier–and the information addressed safety performance for 2003 and overall productivity. Of course, as a highly regulated producer in Alaska, this is largely the same information provided to state regulatory agencies, taxing authorities, and even publicly disclosed to its shareholders. See BP Annual Report and Accounts 2003. The latter part of the email referred to performance data for 2005 again analyzing production, costs and safety. So there are two distinct errors in the article: (1) the email itself was circulating in Alaska and was simply forwarded to Todd by a third party, it was not an email that was sent by BP to Todd Palin wherein he was told it was “confidential” and (2) the type of information within the email was years old and all, if not most, was a matter of public record under the tight regulatory strictures BP operates under and its release of data to shareholders, securities regulators, the department of Revenue, and the state oil and gas commission, among others.
NoNails on February 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM
Gov. Palin will continue to represent U.S. in either an elected or unelected capacity. Corporate America, and other popular movements need a trademark that represents their product or values – Gov. Palin represents conservatism.
MSGTAS on February 6, 2010 at 9:39 AM
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 9:17 AM
Nice to see your willing to do a little selective research,if you try a little harder you’ll find the quote’s from one of the execs from Exxon indicating thier bottom line has improved under Aces. i think this is nothing more than the big boy’s trying to roll Parnell to get an even better deal,like Sarah they have a responseability to get the best deal possible for thier investors.
heshtesh on February 6, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Can hardly wait for them to reveal and analyze first monster M. Obama’s emails. Imagine what they would freakin’ say.
ray on February 6, 2010 at 9:43 AM
Oh, and like Hillary wasn’t a key adviser to Bill. She even wrote the health care bill for the dems that went down in flames. Remember them saying we got 2 for the price of one and she was almost co-president.
Kissmygrits on February 6, 2010 at 9:46 AM
That picture of the Governor and her husband is gonna burn libs a new one. Can you imagine? A woman as a partner with a good looking man who clearly adores her? First she exercises her right to NOT abort her baby and now she has a man who clearly adores, respects and supports her! Clearly, a conservative woman accomplishes what so many liberal women can not. lol.
bloggless on February 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Yeah. Like that will happen. (Rolls eyes.)
Chewy the Lab on February 6, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Interesting, thanks. This tax hike does not bode well for the rest of the country as Obamarx kills the tax breaks the eevil oil companies have been receiving. I suppose one could argue that it’s a question of reduced demand, but that still doesn’t justify raising taxes. Anyhoo, I’d like to hear Palin’s response. Fair and balanced and all that…
Buy Danish on February 6, 2010 at 9:55 AM
She endorsed Rand Paul? So is Rand Paul to Ron Paul as Ron Reagan Jr is to Ronald Reagan Sr?
- The Cat
MirCat on February 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM
I’m done with Palin over the Paul endorsement. She destroyed her credibility with me on that.
Note the endorsements for Bill Johnson from tea party organizers…..and yes, there is a quote there from me, too, made in the heat of passion in a comment thread at Texas for Sarah Palin. The comment ended up at Daily Kos and our local news……and I regret that….but though I have calmed down a great deal, I am still done with her. What a rip-off. The Tea Party movement in Kentucky is split between Paulites and Reaganites. The Paulites HATE Sarah Palin and wouldn’t vote for her for president if you paid them to. The Reaganites, who support Johnson, **would have** worked for Palin in Kentucky……but with this endorsement she hammered down to the heart a wedge that already existed between the two factions in the tea party movement here in Kentucky and drove a stake through the heart of her base here.
She should have just stayed silent about this race……..but as it is, she is toast in Kentucky now.
See more at Sultan Knish here and especially HERE.
One note to correct the article at WHAS-11. I turned over the Palin Twibe blog, group and twitter account to a very capable Palin supporter who will keep it going. I still believe in building soapboxes for people…….but Palin is out of the question for me now. What a waste.
~~ Lisa Graas
gocatholic on February 6, 2010 at 9:58 AM
I’m sure the NY Times and MSDNC would never exaggerate a story just to hurt a Republican, especially Sarah Palin…..
clearbluesky on February 6, 2010 at 9:59 AM
The CRU emails were made available… never say never :)
ray on February 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Yes. You are clueless. Noticed the market price for oil lately? It’s rather low, right? What happens when the commodity prices for oil go down? ….
…
yes, exploration slows, or even stops.
Alaska will adjust with the market, else they lose their cash cow. But, you , as a typical assclown assume the position of ‘all taxes are bad’ sans the KY.
The wheels will get greased: They want the oil in Alaska, Conoco (and others) and Alaska will do what is needed to keep the gravy train flowing. If that involves adjusting the tax rate, Alaska will. Their is talk of making the tax rate fluid based on the price/per/barrel.
But you knew this, right?
troll.
exsanguine on February 6, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Their is talk of making the tax rate fluid based on the price/per/barrel.
But you knew this, right?
troll.
exsanguine on February 6, 2010 at 10:49 AM
I was under the impression the tax rate was fluid from day one under ACES.
heshtesh on February 6, 2010 at 11:06 AM
My buddy voxignoramus is over at The Daily Caller attacking Treacher when he can’t respond? How brave. Why am I not surprised? I think I’ll go hunting.
kingsjester on February 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM
<blockquote>”I’m a Reagan conservative before I’m a Palin fan,” Graas continued, “and the same can be said for Kentucky. Looks like Sarah Palin is lacking some common sense.”
gocatholic on February 6, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Thanks for the link. Support conservative Bill Johnson for the Kentucky U.S. Senate seat.
RedRobin145 on February 6, 2010 at 11:37 AM
Lately I have to doublecheck to make sure I clicked into HotAir vice Mudflats or Immoral Minority. Between the anti-Palin guttersnipes and Allah trolling for every negative piece he can find on her, Hot Air will soon be blog linked by the Alaskan anklebiters. I’m actually suprised we don’t get an occasional Trig Truther thread. Of course Sullivan has been linked lately so maybe that covers it.
And HA posters will be whining when Palin supporters tell the insider selected GOP candidate to take a flying leap in 2012. All we’ll hear then is how the Palin supporters doomed us to another Obama term by staying home.
katiejane on February 6, 2010 at 11:53 AM
You would be wrong, then.
Lanceman on February 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM
The producers stopping development has nothing to do market adjustments, I just gave you the quotes from both BP and Conoco/Phillips on why their not reinvesting in development on Alaskan land. They’re telling you it’s because of the tax stucture yet you keep insisting it’s something else, unbelievable.
Someone else that doesn’t know what the hell their talking about, are you honestly going to tell us EXXON’s profits increased because of ACES? How is that even possible? Just because EXXON doesn’t come out and say ACES is affecting their reinvestment in Alaska doesn’t mean it isn’t. All you have to do is look where EXXON is investing in new development. I’ll give you a hint, it ain’t Alaska.
Christ, you’re arguing on Hot Air on the benefits of a windfall profit tax. Whose the RINO’s?
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM
It isn’t someone else’s profit.
You are the one suggesting taking what belongs to someone else.
The oil belongs to the state of Alaska.
It doesn’t belong to you.
It doesn’t belong to Exxon.
It belongs to the state of Alaska. They can negotiate contracts on whatever terms they want.
The oil companies accept those terms because it is in their interest to do so. Reevaluating the contract due to altered economic conditions (lower oil prices) is also sensible.
The oil companies do not get that oil for free. Nor should they! The oil companies want to pay as little as possible for the oil and the Alaskans want them to pay as much as possible for the oil.
They have to pay a tax on the net profit of the oil. Net Profit means after the cost of transportation and extraction have been removed.
Exxon profits from every barrel of oil. They are not profiting as much as they want to. They will never profit as much as they want to. If the profits are less than what they can get elsewhere, then elsewhere is where they will go.
Each oil producing location has a baseline price for extraction and transportation. If oil drops near, or below that price it stops being profitable to utilize that oil source. Oil from Antarctica for example would not be profitable unless oil prices were very high. Libyan oil can be extracted for much less and this means a higher profit margin for the oil companies.
So why haven’t the oil companies walked away to greener fields?
As oil prices drop Alaska becomes less profitable as an oil source and the ACES tax begins to drop. This is built into the legislation.
Isn’t the Governor supposed to work for the benefit of the states citizens. You seem to imagine that they should work for the benefit of the oil companies.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 2:48 PM
Lisa Graas is full of crap. She’s taken it personal that Palin didn’t endorse Johnson. As a Kentuckian, I can tell you that Johnson can’t win, and Graas doesn’t speak for all the TP groups. Graas is turning into KY’s falafel lady. She needs to get a grip.
NoNails on February 6, 2010 at 4:59 PM
All well put, except you are neglecting one thing: jobs. Employment in the oil fields is our greatest engine of prosperity in Alaska. You may “maximize” the taxes and not the employment.
AshleyTKing on February 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM
And do you realistically expect employment to increase in the oil fields with oil prices dropping along with the economy?
BTW the oil companies have been sitting on their oil leases well before the ACES tax ever came into effect.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM
You are you explaining this to? The only one that doesn’t understand this subject is you. The oil or gas is Alaska’s up to the point the producer pulls it out of the ground which they pay royalties on everything after that is a tax on profits not oil. And there’s no negotiating on that.
As for the rest, why don’t you go back and read my posts, my whole argument is that Palin rose the tax so high the producers are leaving the state of Alaska which is not a benifit to the people of Alaska. Good grief.
lowandslow on February 6, 2010 at 5:50 PM
They can negotiate contracts on whatever terms they want.
You have absolutely no understanding of the free market.
If you sign a contract with me in which I get a share of the profits on whatever sales you make with the oil from my land, that is part of the contract.
No one is making the companies take part, so what injustice is being done here?
If they don’t like the contract then DON’T SIGN THE DAMN THING!! Go to Libya, or the North Sea, or the Middle East.
sharrukin on February 6, 2010 at 6:00 PM
gary4205 on February 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM
MSNBC’s Hit Piece On Sarah Palin Wins “Coveted” Captain Louis Renault Award
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/msnbc%E2%80%99s-hit-piece-on-sarah-palin-wins-coveted-captain-louis-renault-award/
gary4205 on February 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM
her backing Paul is her way of saying:
“I’m not a neo-conservative Billy-boy. Get over it.”
Sapwolf on February 7, 2010 at 7:49 PM
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