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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Security starts cashing in US debt</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3361536</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Security starts cashing in US debt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] noticed the cash shortfalls at Social Security for more than a year, and now they appear to be permanent.  For the first time, the Social Security Administration will start cashing in its IOUs from the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] noticed the cash shortfalls at Social Security for more than a year, and now they appear to be permanent.  For the first time, the Social Security Administration will start cashing in its IOUs from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jefferson said once&#8230;. &#124; Holeinthehull</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3285083</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Jefferson said once&#8230;. &#124; Holeinthehull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] will be retiring in the next 8-10 years and find out their social security is no longer going to sustain them through their retirement. Then [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will be retiring in the next 8-10 years and find out their social security is no longer going to sustain them through their retirement. Then [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feb. 6 was Black Friday for GOP &#124; The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3253039</link>
		<dc:creator>Feb. 6 was Black Friday for GOP &#124; The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] CBO report showing that Social Security is paying out more than it&#8217;s taking in, and the Yahoo Finance report showing how bad the situation really is. With millions of Baby Boomers set to retire in the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CBO report showing that Social Security is paying out more than it&#8217;s taking in, and the Yahoo Finance report showing how bad the situation really is. With millions of Baby Boomers set to retire in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My Big Fat Greek Bailout &#8211; And What It Means For America &#171; Start Thinking Right</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3246796</link>
		<dc:creator>My Big Fat Greek Bailout &#8211; And What It Means For America &#171; Start Thinking Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that, we need to phase down the boondoggles we&#8217;ve created via Social Security (which is now in the red, paying out more than it collects) and Medicare/Medicaid (how does a ONE HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLAR [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that, we need to phase down the boondoggles we&#8217;ve created via Social Security (which is now in the red, paying out more than it collects) and Medicare/Medicaid (how does a ONE HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLAR [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Social Security Is Now In The Red &#124; Conservative Patriot HQ</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3231228</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Security Is Now In The Red &#124; Conservative Patriot HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] pointed out at Hot Air, the government is reporting that Social Security is running a surplus of $92 billion.  However, the government accounting includes interest payments of $120 billion on the debt owed [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pointed out at Hot Air, the government is reporting that Social Security is running a surplus of $92 billion.  However, the government accounting includes interest payments of $120 billion on the debt owed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: itzWicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>itzWicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;daesleeper on February 4, 2010 at 1:47 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Saaaay, isn&#039;t it the customary thing to have them pay for dinner and a dance first before they do that kind of thing to us??

Don&#039;t get ahead of me, but I *already* know their solution:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glengreen.com/images/wv_news/2009/aug09/logans-run_carousel.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CAROUSEL!!&lt;/a.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>daesleeper on February 4, 2010 at 1:47 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Saaaay, isn&#8217;t it the customary thing to have them pay for dinner and a dance first before they do that kind of thing to us??</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get ahead of me, but I *already* know their solution:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.glengreen.com/images/wv_news/2009/aug09/logans-run_carousel.jpg" rel="nofollow">CAROUSEL!!&lt;/a.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger40</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Won’t happen as long as we’re still flooding the market with over a million legal H1-B visa holders a year. Most of those have some form of hard science or engineering degree.

DFCtomm on February 5, 2010 at 8:51 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s disgusting to me how lazy American kids are.
I encourage my students to avoid the BA degrees &amp; get a BS in something.
You don&#039;t even have to have a hard science major-just take some hard science &amp; math as electives.
I&#039;m not a genius, but my BS is way more valuable than the PE&#039;s teacher&#039;s BA in physical ed.
And I will always be able to find a decent paying job, unlike a phy ed major.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Won’t happen as long as we’re still flooding the market with over a million legal H1-B visa holders a year. Most of those have some form of hard science or engineering degree.</p>
<p>DFCtomm on February 5, 2010 at 8:51 AM
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<p>It&#8217;s disgusting to me how lazy American kids are.<br />
I encourage my students to avoid the BA degrees &amp; get a BS in something.<br />
You don&#8217;t even have to have a hard science major-just take some hard science &amp; math as electives.<br />
I&#8217;m not a genius, but my BS is way more valuable than the PE&#8217;s teacher&#8217;s BA in physical ed.<br />
And I will always be able to find a decent paying job, unlike a phy ed major.</p>
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		<title>By: lobosan5</title>
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		<dc:creator>lobosan5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now who&#039;s bull shitting who?&quot;
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2010/02/fyi-social-security-scam.html
&amp; this rocks too because it is related:.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

meanwhile the IRS is packing heat!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now who&#8217;s bull shitting who?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2010/02/fyi-social-security-scam.html" rel="nofollow">http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2010/02/fyi-social-security-scam.html</a><br />
&amp; this rocks too because it is related:&#8230;..<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk</a></p>
<p>meanwhile the IRS is packing heat!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DFCtomm</title>
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		<dc:creator>DFCtomm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I have a cousin in that same boat. 3M, engineer, work there for life? Not anymore.

That’s got to change, soon. The sheer numbers of today’s generation taking worthless majors, would say the older generations would have to become a hot commodity someday. It’s not like Junior, with his Communications/minor in Moron-Studies degree will design the next 3M product, cure the next disease, or such.

Then again, looking at companies like GE, maybe the Moron-Studies degree holders are designing the latest products, as long as they last, now…

MNHawk on February 5, 2010 at 8:01 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Won&#039;t happen as long as we&#039;re still flooding the market with over a million legal H1-B visa holders a year. Most of those have some form of hard science or engineering degree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have a cousin in that same boat. 3M, engineer, work there for life? Not anymore.</p>
<p>That’s got to change, soon. The sheer numbers of today’s generation taking worthless majors, would say the older generations would have to become a hot commodity someday. It’s not like Junior, with his Communications/minor in Moron-Studies degree will design the next 3M product, cure the next disease, or such.</p>
<p>Then again, looking at companies like GE, maybe the Moron-Studies degree holders are designing the latest products, as long as they last, now…</p>
<p>MNHawk on February 5, 2010 at 8:01 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Won&#8217;t happen as long as we&#8217;re still flooding the market with over a million legal H1-B visa holders a year. Most of those have some form of hard science or engineering degree.</p>
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		<title>By: DFCtomm</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3226411</link>
		<dc:creator>DFCtomm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;    So, what to invest in? Spices? A cow and some chickens for the back yard?

    NTWR on February 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that is exactly what I would recommend, and if you don&#039;t have a backyard suitable, then invest in that first. I hear now is a good time to buy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    So, what to invest in? Spices? A cow and some chickens for the back yard?</p>
<p>    NTWR on February 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that is exactly what I would recommend, and if you don&#8217;t have a backyard suitable, then invest in that first. I hear now is a good time to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: DFCtomm</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3226402</link>
		<dc:creator>DFCtomm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;

Adjusting SS retirement age by one month a year would have worked 30 years ago. It’s way to late now.

An immediate 3 year jump is needed then we can start adjusting by one month a year.

Second, SS needs to be adjusted by inflation, not by the rate at which incomes increase.

MarkTheGreat on February 4, 2010 at 5:06 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or...We just start requiring a clean drug test to participate in any entitlement program.]]></description>
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<p>Adjusting SS retirement age by one month a year would have worked 30 years ago. It’s way to late now.</p>
<p>An immediate 3 year jump is needed then we can start adjusting by one month a year.</p>
<p>Second, SS needs to be adjusted by inflation, not by the rate at which incomes increase.</p>
<p>MarkTheGreat on February 4, 2010 at 5:06 PM
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<p>Or&#8230;We just start requiring a clean drug test to participate in any entitlement program.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3226381</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No doubt G. W. Bush will get blamed for this, since he didn&#039;t force privatization.
But, it would still need to be bailed out with the failure of the market under Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt G. W. Bush will get blamed for this, since he didn&#8217;t force privatization.<br />
But, it would still need to be bailed out with the failure of the market under Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Dasher</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3226320</link>
		<dc:creator>Dasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy days are here. Social Security can now tap into the Social Security Trust Fund, and save itself. Trust Me!! /sarc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy days are here. Social Security can now tap into the Social Security Trust Fund, and save itself. Trust Me!! /sarc</p>
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		<title>By: MNHawk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3226283</link>
		<dc:creator>MNHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve got no problem with that. However, having some experience with Fortune 500 machinations to get rid of 55-60 year old scientists who have achieved high compensation levels and can be replaced cheaply, I doubt there will be much of a job market for 67 year old workers unless you are talking about Walmart greeters.

a capella on February 4, 2010 at 4:41 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have a cousin in that same boat.  3M, engineer, work there for life?  Not anymore.

That&#039;s got to change, soon.  The sheer numbers of today&#039;s generation taking worthless majors, would say the older generations would have to become a hot commodity someday.  It&#039;s not like Junior, with his Communications/minor in Moron-Studies degree will design the next 3M product, cure the next disease, or such.

Then again, looking at companies like GE, maybe the Moron-Studies degree holders are designing the latest products, as long as they last, now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve got no problem with that. However, having some experience with Fortune 500 machinations to get rid of 55-60 year old scientists who have achieved high compensation levels and can be replaced cheaply, I doubt there will be much of a job market for 67 year old workers unless you are talking about Walmart greeters.</p>
<p>a capella on February 4, 2010 at 4:41 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a cousin in that same boat.  3M, engineer, work there for life?  Not anymore.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s got to change, soon.  The sheer numbers of today&#8217;s generation taking worthless majors, would say the older generations would have to become a hot commodity someday.  It&#8217;s not like Junior, with his Communications/minor in Moron-Studies degree will design the next 3M product, cure the next disease, or such.</p>
<p>Then again, looking at companies like GE, maybe the Moron-Studies degree holders are designing the latest products, as long as they last, now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Newest Raw Deal &#171; Left Coast Ledger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Newest Raw Deal &#171; Left Coast Ledger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] me a healthy government program. Find one that doesn’t run at a loss. Amtrak loses $1.1 billion a year; the Postal Service loses [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me a healthy government program. Find one that doesn’t run at a loss. Amtrak loses $1.1 billion a year; the Postal Service loses [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strident Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strident Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Social Security Reminds Me Of Dumb And Dumber...&lt;/strong&gt;

Well folks, according to a report by the Congressional Budget Office, Social Security is broke. . . busted. . . bankrupt. Oh, you won&#8217;t hear those words from the Democrats and Republicans. Nope, they&#8217;ll go on record about how Social Securit...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Social Security Reminds Me Of Dumb And Dumber&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Well folks, according to a report by the Congressional Budget Office, Social Security is broke. . . busted. . . bankrupt. Oh, you won&#8217;t hear those words from the Democrats and Republicans. Nope, they&#8217;ll go on record about how Social Securit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Great Crash &#171; Doctor Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Great Crash &#171; Doctor Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] suspected. Instead of producing a surplus that helps fund the rest of the government, it has gone into the red&#8230; something that wasn&#8217;t supposed to happen for over a decade. Social Security was never [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] suspected. Instead of producing a surplus that helps fund the rest of the government, it has gone into the red&#8230; something that wasn&#8217;t supposed to happen for over a decade. Social Security was never [...]</p>
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		<title>By: viking01</title>
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		<dc:creator>viking01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to worry. Since Zero has sold our future to the Red Chinese when the ChiComs show up to collect those humongous debts they&#039;ll simply reallocate the retirement centers to chop shops &quot;harvest for parts.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry. Since Zero has sold our future to the Red Chinese when the ChiComs show up to collect those humongous debts they&#8217;ll simply reallocate the retirement centers to chop shops &#8220;harvest for parts.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: westerncanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>westerncanadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;The deficit is a big problem but the real tax and spend issue is entitlements.&lt;/strong&gt;

The proper analogy for the US and other “rich” countries is the man with a syringe in his arm from which a rubber tube runs into his mouth. He survives by sucking his own blood. Well, he survives for a while and then the fainting fits come. He can only be kept alive with food donated by outsiders and those outsiders will eventually call the shots. That’s what is happening with the Chinese and other buyers of US debt. Obama is just making sure he sucks most of the blood now, while it is still available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The deficit is a big problem but the real tax and spend issue is entitlements.</strong></p>
<p>The proper analogy for the US and other “rich” countries is the man with a syringe in his arm from which a rubber tube runs into his mouth. He survives by sucking his own blood. Well, he survives for a while and then the fainting fits come. He can only be kept alive with food donated by outsiders and those outsiders will eventually call the shots. That’s what is happening with the Chinese and other buyers of US debt. Obama is just making sure he sucks most of the blood now, while it is still available.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Social Security has it roots in progessive (AKA Communist/socialist) legistlations, but on the whole it was not a bad idea in its orginal form. It was a time when investing in stocks each week at payday had proven then as now, a dangerous system of saving for the future, after the stockmarket crashed. The nucelar family that had supported an elderly family memeber was unravialing, leaving many unable to work in old age poor and homeless.

Originally people were suppose to pay a small part of each paycheck into the government fund and when they retired receive a pension that insured they had something to live on if they had not provided for their old age when they were able to work.

Of course all that money was too much of a temptation for politicians to ignore, especially in those progressive times, so they began borrowing some of it, then as in today, they just took it and toss in IOU&#039;s written of bathroom tissue. Worse they began using it to pay for social programs like SSI (another form of welfare), and real or claimed disablities.

Now it is broke and going under with no help in sight, except making the tax payers pay a higher taxes to cover the stolen taxes they already paid or find a way to grab their personal retirement funds.

Could it have been different if they had kept the greedy hands of congress out of the social security cookie jar?

We can look for Texas for that answer. Teachers in Texas are exempt for paying into Social Security and instead pay into our own Teacher Retirement System, that for the most part was based on the original Social Security law.

As I understand it there was a loop hole that exempted academic professors and teachers from paying into the SS fund. Why it is that way I don&#039;t know, but it must be unchangeable, or at least it is in Texas. Texas is a republic tied to the United States by a treaty, so a lot of things are seperated in what we do or have from the way things are or done in other states.

The one of the big differences between the TRS and Social Security; TRS funds are not accessable to the legistlators, unlike the SS funds are to congress. TRS is stable and has  adequate funds to meet the needs today and far into the future. The fund is not used to pay for welfare related programs nor to pay out diabilites. 

Teachers penisons are based on what they have paid into it, not on the highest year of income. There are provisions for a member to buy retirement years or to transfer other retirement pensions into it.

It might be of interest to note that the baby boomers are not a concern. The reason is simple. TRS is not running a ponzi scheme where a smaller number of younger workers are trying to pay the SS penisons for an increasing number of retiries.

The only way to reform social security is to destroy it and start over with one that does only what it is intended to do, save from embezzlement of its funds by congress. Let there be a way to enroll the younger people, and the goverment to figure out a way for them to manage their ponzi scheme without them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Security has it roots in progessive (AKA Communist/socialist) legistlations, but on the whole it was not a bad idea in its orginal form. It was a time when investing in stocks each week at payday had proven then as now, a dangerous system of saving for the future, after the stockmarket crashed. The nucelar family that had supported an elderly family memeber was unravialing, leaving many unable to work in old age poor and homeless.</p>
<p>Originally people were suppose to pay a small part of each paycheck into the government fund and when they retired receive a pension that insured they had something to live on if they had not provided for their old age when they were able to work.</p>
<p>Of course all that money was too much of a temptation for politicians to ignore, especially in those progressive times, so they began borrowing some of it, then as in today, they just took it and toss in IOU&#8217;s written of bathroom tissue. Worse they began using it to pay for social programs like SSI (another form of welfare), and real or claimed disablities.</p>
<p>Now it is broke and going under with no help in sight, except making the tax payers pay a higher taxes to cover the stolen taxes they already paid or find a way to grab their personal retirement funds.</p>
<p>Could it have been different if they had kept the greedy hands of congress out of the social security cookie jar?</p>
<p>We can look for Texas for that answer. Teachers in Texas are exempt for paying into Social Security and instead pay into our own Teacher Retirement System, that for the most part was based on the original Social Security law.</p>
<p>As I understand it there was a loop hole that exempted academic professors and teachers from paying into the SS fund. Why it is that way I don&#8217;t know, but it must be unchangeable, or at least it is in Texas. Texas is a republic tied to the United States by a treaty, so a lot of things are seperated in what we do or have from the way things are or done in other states.</p>
<p>The one of the big differences between the TRS and Social Security; TRS funds are not accessable to the legistlators, unlike the SS funds are to congress. TRS is stable and has  adequate funds to meet the needs today and far into the future. The fund is not used to pay for welfare related programs nor to pay out diabilites. </p>
<p>Teachers penisons are based on what they have paid into it, not on the highest year of income. There are provisions for a member to buy retirement years or to transfer other retirement pensions into it.</p>
<p>It might be of interest to note that the baby boomers are not a concern. The reason is simple. TRS is not running a ponzi scheme where a smaller number of younger workers are trying to pay the SS penisons for an increasing number of retiries.</p>
<p>The only way to reform social security is to destroy it and start over with one that does only what it is intended to do, save from embezzlement of its funds by congress. Let there be a way to enroll the younger people, and the goverment to figure out a way for them to manage their ponzi scheme without them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kissmygrits</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3225379</link>
		<dc:creator>Kissmygrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all Bush&#039;s fault.  He tried in 2003 to start reforming SS but nooooooo, the dems said everything was fine and fought it tooth and nail.  Liberals are behind every problem this country has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all Bush&#8217;s fault.  He tried in 2003 to start reforming SS but nooooooo, the dems said everything was fine and fought it tooth and nail.  Liberals are behind every problem this country has.</p>
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		<title>By: BobMbx</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobMbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How would you like to be the last man in America to have a job?  Geez....you&#039;d have to pay for everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you like to be the last man in America to have a job?  Geez&#8230;.you&#8217;d have to pay for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Desert Gardens</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/social-security-tipping-over-into-the-red/comment-page-3/#comment-3225306</link>
		<dc:creator>Desert Gardens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone is interested in seeing what the left is pushing as a solution to Social Security, you need to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.retirement-usa.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Retirement U.S.A.&lt;/a&gt;
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It&#039;s the brainchild of 5 lefty orgs (SEIU, AFL-CIO, EPI ...) that have come together to find a fix to the current retirement system. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They want &quot;UNIVERSAL, SECURE, AND ADEQUATE,&quot; retirement for all, even if it means subsidizing those who haven&#039;t managed to save enough on their own.  It&#039;s like Social Security part 2.  It&#039;s in the works and it doesn&#039;t look pretty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested in seeing what the left is pushing as a solution to Social Security, you need to check out <a href="http://www.retirement-usa.org/" rel="nofollow">Retirement U.S.A.</a></p>
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<p>It&#8217;s the brainchild of 5 lefty orgs (SEIU, AFL-CIO, EPI &#8230;) that have come together to find a fix to the current retirement system. </p>
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<p>They want &#8220;UNIVERSAL, SECURE, AND ADEQUATE,&#8221; retirement for all, even if it means subsidizing those who haven&#8217;t managed to save enough on their own.  It&#8217;s like Social Security part 2.  It&#8217;s in the works and it doesn&#8217;t look pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: PunditKix</title>
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		<dc:creator>PunditKix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ginaswo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginaswo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just in time to cut Gen X bens again right? the frakkers!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZYLEc7MQ0U&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tea Party Patriots – Time to Start the Countdown&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just in time to cut Gen X bens again right? the frakkers!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZYLEc7MQ0U" rel="nofollow">Tea Party Patriots – Time to Start the Countdown</a></p>
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