Noted deficit hawk proposes budget, recasts FY10 deficit to record $1.6 trillion

posted at 11:25 am on February 1, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

And that’s just the OMB estimate, which Hot Air readers will recall doesn’t exactly have a track record for accuracy.  Just last week, Barack Obama declared that he needed to freeze spending to arrest the growth of gigantic federal deficits, which have exploded since Democrats took control of Congress, and announced a freeze on non-defense discretionary spending … sometime later.  Today, after casting himself as a deficit hawk, Obama will roll out a budget with a $1.3 trillion deficit while admitting that this year’s gap will be $1,600,000,000,000:

The White House will predict a record budget deficit in the current fiscal year and more big shortfalls for the next decade in its upcoming budget proposal, a congressional source told Reuters on Sunday.

In its budget proposal to be released on Monday, the White House predicts a record $1.6 trillion budget deficit for the fiscal year that ends September 30, the Capitol Hill source said.

According to the estimate, deficits will narrow to $700 billion by fiscal 2013 before gradually rising back to $1.0 trillion by the end of the decade, the source said.

Obama’s economic team apparently applied Porkulus reasoning to this year’s deficit projection:

The estimate for the current fiscal year is significantly higher than the $1.35 trillion figure forecast by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office last week.

Despite the difference, both estimates indicate that the deficit will continue to hover at a level not seen since World War Two, when measured as a percentage of the economy. Last year the government posted a $1.4 trillion deficit.

The spin is already apparent in the Washington Post:

The $3.8 trillion budget blueprint President Obama plans to submit to Congress on Monday calls for billions of dollars in new spending to combat persistently high unemployment and bolster a battered middle class. But it also would slash funding for hundreds of programs and raise taxes on banks and the wealthy to help rein in soaring budget deficits.

To put people back to work, Obama proposes to spend about $100 billion immediately on a jobs bill that would include tax cuts for small businesses, social-safety-net programs, and aid to state and local governments. To reduce deficits, he would impose new fees on some of the nation’s largest banks and permit a range of tax cuts to expire for families earning more than $250,000 a year, in addition to freezing non-security spending for three years.

Despite those efforts, the White House expects the annual gap between spending and revenue to approach a record $1.6 trillion this year as the government continues to dig out from the worst recession in more than a generation, according to budget documents released Sunday by the White House. The red ink would recede to $1.3 trillion in 2011 but remain persistently high for years to come under Obama’s policies.

Obama is “slash[ing]” his way to a record level of spending.  The estimate for FY2010 is just over $3.7 trillion dollars, but when it was submitted by Obama to Congress last year, it was $3.6 trillion.  With Democrats in charge of Congress, that topline will almost certainly increase rather than decrease.

For a little historical context, let’s recall what those big-spending Republicans did while they had control of the budgeting process.  The GOP controlled Congress and the White House from 2001 through 2006, which means they passed the budgets for FYs 2002-2007 (they also controlled Congress during Bill Clinton’s final year, but had to negotiate with him to get one passed.)  Spending in FY2002 was $2.011 trillion, and by FY2007 it grew to $2.73 trillion.  Democrats then took control of Congress and increased the budget to $2.9 trillion in FY 2008.  They bypassed Bush for FY2009 by delaying passage of the budget until Obama took office and hiked spending to over $3.1 trillion.  This year’s budget increased spending by $600 billion alone, in one year almost the same amount profligate Republicans inflated it in six years.

And now it will go up even farther.  Does anyone recall this rosy set of predictions for budget deficits from the Obama administration?

Obama’s admission represents an increase of at least $300 billion in the FY2010 deficit.  That makes it almost as bad as the FY2009 deficit.  Furthermore, his FY2011 budget deficit will be $400 billion more than their projections last March.  FY2012 will also have a trillion-dollar deficit, which means that this projection was off $500 billion for that year as well.  For just those three years, the White House missed its marks by over $1.2 trillion dollars, and managed to add over a trillion dollars in annual spending since the last all-Republican budget.  That represents an increase in spending of 43% in just four years.

And after that, Obama wants credit for freezing less than 13% of the budget.  Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

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Finally the parents are home

commodore on February 1, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Obama blamed Booosh, previous Congresses and everyone but himself for our economic situation this morning during his daily tv pronouncement. He came off as a petulant, arrogant jerk. In other words, same ol’ Barry.

kingsjester on February 1, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Is there a place that I can go to see just exactly where all of this money is going? What is it for? A breakdown? A Real breakdown?
Please point me in that direction???

bridgetown on February 1, 2010 at 11:28 AM

I heard him when he made his statement this morning, and the first thing out of his 24 hour of Le Mans mouth…

MORE BLAME BUSH ! for cryin’ out loud.

That’s leadership & bipartisanship for ya.

singlemalt_18 on February 1, 2010 at 11:30 AM

So basically he wants to spend another trillion dollars to have zero real jobs created – I’m not talking about the ones in his head or fantasy world.

Can you imagine what the private sector could do with this money – how many jobs they could create?

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM

You think the people running Washington would realize that this is completely unsustainable.

Either the savings of the American middle class are destroyed by inflation or the country default’s on its debt. Neither one of those scenarios will be fun, but there isn’t really another option at this stage in the game.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM

The deficit will easily clear 2 trillion.

MadDogF on February 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM

I heard him when he made his statement this morning, and the first thing out of his 24 hour of Le Mans mouth…

MORE BLAME BUSH ! for cryin’ out loud.

That’s leadership & bipartisanship for ya.

singlemalt_18 on February 1, 2010 at 11:30 AM

I’m just waiting for the day GWB can’t take it anymore and lets loose. Lord know he’s earned it.

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Defaults, not default’s, obviously.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM

And the pathetic Precedent was on TV again trying to demonize everyone else for exactly what he is doing. This is so far beyond ridiculous that future historians will not be able to figure out how we let this ineligible POS get away with this stupidity … other than a clear desire for national suicide. Like that great self-hating Western moron, Ehud Olmert said, “We’re tired of winning.”

neurosculptor on February 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Booooooosh&!!!!&98&

daesleeper on February 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Either the savings of the American middle class are destroyed by inflation or the country default’s on its debt. Neither one of those scenarios will be fun, but there isn’t really another option at this stage in the game.

Option C: Both massive inflation and federal default.

Chris_Balsz on February 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM

And the pathetic Precedent was on TV again trying to demonize everyone else for exactly what he is doing. This is so far beyond ridiculous that future historians will not be able to figure out how we let this ineligible POS get away with this stupidity … other than a clear desire for national suicide. Like that great self-hating Western moron, Ehud Olmert said, “We’re tired of winning.”

neurosculptor on February 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM

At my company – one of the things we are reviewed on is the ability to accept responsibility for your work, mistakes, etc.

If Barry was reviewed based on the criteria I am – he’d be put on corrective action so fast his head would spin.

Funny how that works

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

He’s only doing it to save us from the recession that Jorge Bush created.

I know he hates having to spend such a large budget, but the man has no choice. It’s either have a larger deficit or complete collapse of the USA.

I don’t envy his decision.

Palin Steele on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

You know what he needs to do? Give a prime time TV address to help us understand basic economics. I think that would work.

a capella on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

He’s only doing it to save us from the recession that Jorge Bush created.

I know he hates having to spend such a large budget, but the man has no choice. It’s either have a larger deficit or complete collapse of the USA.

I don’t envy his decision.

Palin Steele on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Are you serious?

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Who could have guessed that Obama is a tax and spend democrat? Totally didn’t see that coming…

daesleeper on February 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Where do the Dems think they’re going to find the revenue to repay obligations of this scope? They’re driving the U.S. economy toward a cliff, mashing the accelerator to the floor.

Cicero43 on February 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Time to redraw the graph! And couple it with the one on unemployment. Epic Fail!

Christian Conservative on February 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Oh look dum dum is here!

daesleeper on February 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM

I heard him when he made his statement this morning, and the first thing out of his 24 hour of Le Mans mouth…

MORE BLAME BUSH ! for cryin’ out loud.

That’s leadership & bipartisanship for ya.

singlemalt_18 on February 1, 2010 at 11:30 AM

He pretty much alluded to his 2012 campaign platform in his SOTU address and Friday meeting with the GOP. He’s claiming he “inherited” a $1.3 trillion deficit and a projected $8 trillion deficit over the next 10 years.

In other words, it’s all Bush’s fault and he’s helpless to stop it. Not only is this childish and patently untrue, but it’s tantamount to an admission that he’s completely worthless as President. After all, if he’s unable to do anything about our current financial state, then why the hell is he even there?

Doughboy on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

:O

abobo on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

I wonder what the president would have to suggest that the MSM wouldn’t endorse or rationalize?

Cindy Munford on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

A tax credit for small businesses to hire–one year relief on SS contributions for new hires, while increasing the total tax on the small business person 5%.

Doesn’t make much sense to me.

phillypolitics on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

In Recognition of Unprecedented Debt Handed to Nation’s Youth, Nickelodeon Replaces Trademark Green Slime with Red Ink http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/10/in-recognition-of-unprecedented-debt.html

Mervis Winter on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Obama will roll out a budget with a $1.3 trillion deficit while admitting that this year’s gap will be $1,600,000,000,000:

How long does it take to go “line by line” through this budget? I thought I heard someone promise that we’d be doing that little exercise before. Or, am I wrong in assuming that going “line by line” meant that we’d be searching for stuff to cut? Probably, because it appears that going “line by line” means go to the bottom of the budget and start adding stuff “line by line”…..

Meanings.

ted c on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Palin Steele on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

It must be difficult trying to mimic that yahoo over at Ace’s place. You’re not up to it.

a capella on February 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM

All of this is easily explained in two words:

Cloward.

Piven.

Look at the bright side. In order to ruin us, they have to spend a lot of money. We must be pretty successful.

turfmann on February 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Time for the Moveon.org Child’s Play video again.

WashJeff on February 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Strategy:
1) Kill the economy
2) Blame the bad guys (conservatives)
3) Become the savior (take over everything)
4) Tell the sheep what to do (tyranny)

ClanDerson on February 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM

This dolt makes the “drunken sailor” look like the epitome of conservatism. Contrary to some of these insane comments encouraging massive spending, Obama’s unbounded incompetence will soon completely destroy this once great Republic.

rplat on February 1, 2010 at 11:41 AM

If I can have just.5% – I’ll behave myself…

wheels on February 1, 2010 at 11:41 AM

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

If the Indonesian imbecile worked for me I would have pushed for fraud charges against the mathematical illiterate. Of course, whoever hired the fool would be sh#tcanned, immediately … 53% America, you’re fired!

neurosculptor on February 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Didn’t he say something about cutting the deficit in half a year ago?

Daggett on February 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Obama: Well the freeze sounded good when we first came up with it. I don’t think I talked about it enough to the American people, so they couldn understand my scam, errrrrrr my plan! ;)

capejasmine on February 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM

How far away are we from a malaise speech?

Luckily, no matter how much he wants to spend, he’ll have to borrow those funds. Nobody, even the Chinese, will part with that much cash.

Unfortunately, when that happens, the only option available is to literally start printing currency.

That’s when you know it’s over. I watched “The Book of Eli” last night. A good movie, btw. Accordingly, I’m stocking up on KFC hand-wipes.

BobMbx on February 1, 2010 at 11:45 AM

I’m sooooooo surprised!

blatantblue on February 1, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Oh look dum dum is here!

don’t call me that. this isn’t AoS.

Palin Steele on February 1, 2010 at 11:45 AM

You think the people running Washington would realize that this is completely unsustainable.

Either the savings of the American middle class are destroyed by inflation or the country default’s on its debt. Neither one of those scenarios will be fun, but there isn’t really another option at this stage in the game.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM

This is what the Marxists want. You think it’s an accident?

SirGawain on February 1, 2010 at 11:45 AM

If the Indonesian imbecile worked for me I would have pushed for fraud charges against the mathematical illiterate. Of course, whoever hired the fool would be sh#tcanned, immediately … 53% America, you’re fired!

neurosculptor on February 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM

I’m laughing as I’m filling out my self-review. No wonder the guy has never held a private sector job – he couldn’t handle it.

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Didn’t he say something about cutting the deficit in half a year ago?

Daggett on February 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM

And he will. Look at the article. The deficit will go down to $700 billion by 2013. He’ll campaign on that and hope that the majority of Americans are too dumb to notice that half of $1.4 trillion ain’t much of an improvement.

Doughboy on February 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM

The budget also includes $237 million to open the new Gitmo here in Illinois

Serious question……when does inflation kick in?

Knucklehead on February 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Palin Steele on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Everyone has the right to be stupid. Some abuse the priviledge.

PappaMac on February 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM

He’s only doing it to save us from the recession that Jorge Bush created.

I know he hates having to spend such a large budget, but the man has no choice. It’s either have a larger deficit or complete collapse of the USA.

I don’t envy his decision.

Palin Steele on February 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Are you serious?

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Steamin Pile is an Obama troll who claims to be “bipartisan.” He will always jump in to support Obama, except when he’s trying to burnish his bipartisan credentials, as he was the other night on the Romney thread, where he was praising Mittens and trashing his namesake, Palin. He will be banned sooner or later, as he was at AOSHQ. Til then, best to ignore.

james23 on February 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM

I heard President OneNote this morning. I am beginning to think these speeches of his should be classified as a financial act of terrorism upon the American people! I am truly terrified by what I heard. No joke.

B.I.O.B. was the meme of the morning. At this point, why not just put up a cardboard cutout of Prez and play the soundtrack from the State of the Unicorns Address, or the speech he made last year? The only difference is that these idiots keep adding to the spending each time he comes out to make a speech!

Art Laffer was on before and after the insanity speech. What has become crystal clear is that even if we take back the House and Senate, it will take years and years to recover from this mess. I remember the Carter years. This is going to eclipse the Carter years!

freeus on February 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM

we need a bigger boat-Jaws

ginaswo on February 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Everyone has the right to be stupid. Some abuse the priviledge.

PappaMac on February 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Not only that, some people are just born stupid, but others have to work damn hard at it.

singlemalt_18 on February 1, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Either the savings of the American middle class are destroyed by inflation or the country default’s on its debt. Neither one of those scenarios will be fun, but there isn’t really another option at this stage in the game.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM

We can survive default (which is the best option we are going to have) while we cannot make it through true hyper-inflation, which is what we are headed to … not that mamby-pamby 70′s inflation, but real, killer hyper-inflation.

As the dollar is irreplaceable, once we go into hyper-inflation, there is no escape for the US – unlike there was for all of the other nations that made the terrible mistake of allowing their monetary system to become nothing but a joke of printing.

neurosculptor on February 1, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Obama should just change his last name to Orwell.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Steamin Pile is an Obama troll who claims to be “bipartisan.” He will always jump in to support Obama, except when he’s trying to burnish his bipartisan credentials, as he was the other night on the Romney thread, where he was praising Mittens and trashing his namesake, Palin. He will be banned sooner or later, as he was at AOSHQ. Til then, best to ignore.

james23 on February 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Thanks – hard to keep up with all the trolls sometimes.

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:51 AM

It seems that BHO is following the road map for the next Great Depression. Our grandchildren will remember this Progressive for he really is…as they pay off his debt.

d1carter on February 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM

aid to state and local governments

Paying the state debt’s at teh federal level is almost like me paying debts incurred by my wife and then claiming the family is in better financial shape.

Honey, if you read this comment, no I do not think you are spending too much money.

WashJeff on February 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM

There is one option that is out there that no politician has even alluded to yet. Give it to the people! If they were to give us just the increase in spending every adult (18 and over) would receive $7346.19 in the mail. I would much rather them not spend the money, but since the fiscal conservative Obama has decided to take out a loan I think we can spend it better. Think about it, 75% of the economy is consumer driven. I don’t know about you, but if I received a large check in the mail I could certainly use it to pay off things and buy a few items. Instead, the government will squander it on $#*@ like global warming, studies on slugs, and some park in the middle of BFE.

txaggie on February 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Obama should just change his last name to Orwell.
Buy Danish on February 1, 2010 at 11:51 AM

I would prefer:

Leavenworth prisoner #40635.

Bishop on February 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Cindy Munford on February 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM

There is absolutely nothing other than something that affects them directly. Government take over of the Press?

d1carter on February 1, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Serious question……when does inflation kick in?

Knucklehead on February 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Here’s a report from bls on inflation for the past year.

For the 12 month period ending December 2009, the CPI-U rose 2.7 percent, compared to 0.1 percent
for 2008. The larger increase was primarily due to the energy index, which rose 18.2 percent during
2009 after falling 21.3 percent in 2008.

The index for all items less food and energy rose 1.8 percent during 2009, the same increase as in 2008.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM

I would prefer:

Leavenworth prisoner #40635.

Bishop on February 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Thread winner

gophergirl on February 1, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Same old same old. Spend spend spend, Mr. Worst President Ever. I’d like to know what a jobs bill is. Since it’s been shown that a stimulus bill doesn’t stimulate, what does a jobs bill do?

scalleywag on February 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM

If they were to give us just the increase in spending every adult (18 and over) would receive $7346.19 in the mail
txaggie on February 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Sounds good on paper, but it won’t work. Inflation would kick in instantly.

Knucklehead on February 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Hey it’s liberal math, one way or another it all adds up to a lot of BS.

Brat4life on February 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Bankruptcy clerk and sheriff’s sale auctioneer jobs are growing under Obama’s wise rule.

Soup kitchen help and suicide hot lines are an expanding field, as well.

It’s a progressive plan!

profitsbeard on February 1, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Oh good! WaPo said we’ll also “raise taxes on banks and the wealthy”. I’m sure that will help the economy get moving again!

hawksruleva on February 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM

we need a bigger boat-Jaws

ginaswo on February 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM

We need the biggest damn boat you can build!

scalleywag on February 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Watch what Obama does, not what he says. Surprisingly what ever he says is 180 degrees opposite of what he does.

jukin on February 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Knucklehead on February 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Totally agree, but if we are going to have an epic fail I would much rather do it quickly so we can start the recovery. This slow and painful monetary death we have right now is not very fun. I would also like to have some money invested in silver coins so I can buy some milk without a wheelbarrow full of money.

txaggie on February 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM

I’m beginning to think that the wealth of every congressperson or senator who has been in office longer than 8 years should have every single cent of their wealth confiscated to pay down the debt.

I’d even throw in Warren Buffet and Bill Gates. Those two highly intelligent people both voted for Obama.

I have to question their sanity.

PappaMac on February 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM

It’s all worth it as long as Her Majesty, Pelosi continues to use the Air Force to shuttle her kids and grandkids from SanFran to DC.

JeffinOrlando on February 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Well I hope Bush is happy now, just look what he’s done in the last year alone!
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JusDreamin on February 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Oh good! WaPo said we’ll also “raise taxes on banks and the wealthy”. I’m sure that will help the economy get moving again!

hawksruleva on February 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Finally! I was afraid there for a minute that we were going to have to pay for this…
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JusDreamin on February 1, 2010 at 12:04 PM

You think the people running Washington would realize that this is completely unsustainable.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Unfortunately, the ones in charge have actually managed to convince themselves that govt spending is good, and more govt spending is better. They actually believe that the more they spend, the better the world gets.

I think it’s time for that Einstein quote again.

MarkTheGreat on February 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Obama inherited the budget from Obama. Things were all wee wee’d up before he even walked through the door.

OxyCon on February 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM

so I can buy some milk without a wheelbarrow full of money.

txaggie on February 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Hell, the average price of a loaf of bread is already almost 3 bucks, I can only imagine what it will cost in the next few years.

scalleywag on February 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM

One of the best comments I’ve seen on the subject:

A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon we’re talking about default.
Mike Honcho on November 5, 2009 at 2:12 PM

But I’m sure this issue can all be chalked up to the fault of: Bush, Global warming and racism – did I miss any of the usual excuses?

Juno77 on February 1, 2010 at 12:09 PM

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Any inflation at all during a recession is a killer.

Johnnyreb on February 1, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Hooray! “Palin Steele” is here to contaminate another site. How many posts till he feels it necessary to defend child sex slavery or blame those filthy Indian and Jewish doctors who only want to steal your tonsils and feet?

Master Shake on February 1, 2010 at 12:13 PM

You think the people running Washington would realize that this is completely unsustainable.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Oh, they realize it. This is part of the plan.

The problem is too many folks continue to look at it and simply suspect that these politicians are dumb and surely don’t know the unavoidable consequences of their policies.

But they do know it, and those consequences *are* their goal in the first place.

Midas on February 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM

We need the biggest damn boat you can build!

scalleywag on February 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Is the Titanic available?

MarkTheGreat on February 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM

It seems that BHO is following the road map for the next Great Depression. Our grandchildren will remember this Progressive for he really is…as they pay off his debt.
d1carter on February 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM

I prefer the term that most accurately describes him and the rest of his gang in the Democrat Party: Far-left National Socialists.

And Hopefully, the Chinese will give our grandchildren and Great grandchildren a chance to pay off this debt.

Colbyjack on February 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM

This dolt makes the “drunken sailor” look like the epitome of conservatism. Contrary to some of these insane comments encouraging massive spending, Obama’s unbounded incompetence will soon completely destroy this once great Republic.

rplat on February 1, 2010 at 11:41 AM

1. Drunken sailors get something for the money.
2. Drunken sailors only spend their OWN money.

I would be delighted to have a drunken sailor in the white house right now.

JusDreamin on February 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Look closer. This budget also accounts for the assumption of revenue from Cap and Trade.

selias on February 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Unfortunately, the ones in charge have actually managed to convince themselves that govt spending is good, and more govt spending is better. They actually believe that the more they spend, the better the world gets.

I think it’s time for that Einstein quote again.

MarkTheGreat on February 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM

I think they’re deliberately doing this. To create a new nation. Obama’s vision. The vision of all socialist/liberal/communists. Remember Obama’s mentioning he doesn’t look like those guys on the money? He wants to be THEE GUY on the money.

capejasmine on February 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Any inflation at all during a recession is a killer.

Johnnyreb on February 1, 2010 at 12:11 PM

In a sense (and this is going to sound odd), having the economy crash as hard as it did was a good thing. It’s almost unimaginable that a doubling of the money supply in 12 months wouldn’t lead to inflation, but the deflationary pressures have been so large they’re basically balancing things out. For now.

I think the administration’s plan is to try and yank all that money back out of the system once inflation gets going, but I don’t see how they’re going to pull it off.

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM

It’s worse than you can imagine.

This budget lists revenue streams that don’t even exist yet.

For this to be ‘real’, the ‘rats have to ram thru Cr@p&Tax, and a series of tax increases . . . during an election year. Anybody wanna bet on that horse?

This budget goes beyond ‘fantasy’ . . . straight to Nightmare Land.

And, no surprise, adds more funding to shore up failing state governments and ‘social spending’ [i.e. unemployment and welfare].

Doesn’t seem like he’s counting on an ‘economic rebound’ in the near-term, does it?

CPT. Charles on February 1, 2010 at 12:24 PM

BadgerHawk on February 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM

In a sense (and this is going to sound odd), having the economy crash as hard as it did was a good thing. It’s almost unimaginable that a doubling of the money supply in 12 months wouldn’t lead to inflation, but the deflationary pressures have been so large they’re basically balancing things out. For now.

If prices of goods and services drop to reach the supply and demand intersection point, is that really deflation? Is it not inflation to keep prices flat when they really should decrease (e.g., housing)?

WashJeff on February 1, 2010 at 12:28 PM

In the budget is $25B for bail-outs of states. Amazing. The states continue to spend money like crazy knowing that Uncle Obama and Congress will continue to rescue them. We will see this every few months until it all goes to hell. Bastards.

markytom on February 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM

I think it’s time for that Einstein quote again.
MarkTheGreat on February 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM

I think they’re deliberately doing this. To create a new nation. Obama’s vision. The vision of all socialist/liberal/communists. Remember Obama’s mentioning he doesn’t look like those guys on the money? He wants to be THEE GUY on the money.
capejasmine on February 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Was this the quote?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

Here’s a question for the trolls in the balcony: Is Obama and the rest of the national socialists really this Insanely stupid or are they doing all of this by design?

Do they really think that the country will want them in charge if they were the ones that screwed it up in the first place?

Colbyjack on February 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Colbyjack on February 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Shockingly, trolls avoid deficit and spending threads.

WashJeff on February 1, 2010 at 12:35 PM

we need a bigger boat shovel-Smokin’ Joe

ginaswo on February 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM

BigWyo on February 1, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Shockingly, trolls avoid deficit and spending threads.
WashJeff on February 1, 2010 at 12:35 PM

It’s difficult to defend the indefensible.

Colbyjack on February 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM

that chart needs to be plastered EVERYWHERE!!

T-shirts?

cmsinaz on February 1, 2010 at 12:42 PM

It’s difficult to defend the indefensible.

Colbyjack on February 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM

What I do not get is that if I was on a dKos thread four years ago and they were bashing Busg for deficits and spending, I would join in on the criticism. It really makes you think that for these types, party trumps reason.

WashJeff on February 1, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Looks like Dum Dum is alive and still living in his mommy’s basement. We’re always longing for his insightful commentary. Why Dum Dum could probably fix this economy all by himself. He’s just that smart. If you don’t believe me, just ask his mommy.

evenkeel on February 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM

For a little historical context,

that whole paragraph needed to be stated during dear leader’s visit to the retreat last week instead of him ‘inheriting’ this….

he was a part of that little inheritance, why noone called him on it is beyond me…

cmsinaz on February 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM

During the first hour, Rush indicated that this budget includes ‘revenues’ from both Cap and Trade and Healthcare reform... which by guess-timate indicates the true deficit will be around $2.5 TRILLION (2.5 million, millions)

phreshone on February 1, 2010 at 12:47 PM

What’s Obama & Democrats plan B, should China say no…

TN Mom on February 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM

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