CAP: New Yorkers are wussies

posted at 12:45 pm on January 30, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Does the Center for American Progress want to alienate New York while the Obama-Pelosi progressive legislative agenda drowns in popular discontent?  Ken Gude, an associate director at CAP for its International Rights and Responsibility Program, tells Politico that he assumed New Yorkers were braver than to complain about the monumental cost and disruption a criminal trial of 9/11 conspirators would heap onto a city that has already bled both money and blood in the war on terror (via Jonah Goldberg at The Corner):

In his State of the Union address, Obama complained broadly about GOP fear-mongering, but he did not mention Guantanamo, the reasons for his preference for trying terrorists in civilian courts, or his plans to bring some prisoners to Illinois for military trials or indefinite detention.

“Let’s put aside the schoolyard taunts about who’s tough,” Obama said. “Let’s reject the false choice between protecting our people and upholding our values.” He said he was working to fill “unacceptable gaps” highlighted by the Christmas Day attack and boasted of aggressive campaigns against al Qaeda across the globe. “In the last year, hundreds of al Qaeda’s fighters and affiliates, including many senior leaders, have been captured or killed — far more than in 2008,” the president said.

Some Democrats want Obama to be even more forceful, including on the importance of civilian trials for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other alleged 9/11 plotters. “Obama and the Department of Justice need to get out there and push back very clearly with the public…Frankly, I thought New Yorkers were made of sterner stuff than this—traffic is going to be disrupted?” said Ken Gude of the liberal Center for American Progress.

Allahpundit knew this was coming, but honestly, I didn’t think the phallus-measuring would start this quickly, nor directed at New Yorkers themselves.  It’s a cheap shot, especially considering the fact that this trial may drag out as long as eighteen months.  When the RNC held its 2004 convention in the Big Apple, the security precautions were enormous and costly, and that only took four days.  New Yorkers complained about that as well, although from my personal experience at the convention, I found New Yorkers to be very gracious and enthusiastic hosts.

If there was no choice in the venue, then Gothamites would suck it up, as they have since 9/11 despite knowing that terrorists have kept a big target on their backs.  But the only people who believe that seem to be people who live in Washington DC or elsewhere.  There are a multitude of options for adjudicating the cases of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that don’t involve holding the proceedings a few blocks away from a major center of global finance.  That will still be a target regardless of whether KSM ever sets foot in New York, but at least New York can then focus on protecting it rather than dealing with almost two years of disruption in its security protocols.  Gude seems to forget this in his zeal to pass the buck back to New York.

Besides, Congress has twice authorized military commissions to adjudicate the cases of KSM and his cohorts.  We built a facility for that purpose in Guantanamo Bay which remains the best, most secure, and most appropriate venue to proceed.  The commission system allows for appeals to federal court, something that no other commission or tribunal system has ever had, including the oft-praised Nuremberg trials.  The question isn’t whether New Yorkers have the stones to deal with terrorist threats — they’ve been doing it all along.  The question is why we want to disrupt that effort by arbitrarily dropping the consequences of a mistaken decision onto a city that has enough to do as it is, and New Yorkers are correct in demanding an answer to that question.


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Gitmo.

OmahaConservative on January 30, 2010 at 12:46 PM

I like it. There is an epidemic of tin earism amongst the nutroots. Of couse, our side has Michael Steele and his fascination with rap.

a capella on January 30, 2010 at 12:50 PM

OT: Obama worships by text message his first year in office. Instead of going to church he reads a daily inspirational passage.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

.. on his Blackberry.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Gitmo.

OmahaConservative on January 30, 2010 at 12:46 PM

AMEN!!!

This doofus isn’t basing any opinion in reality. Having these clods tried on American soil is dangerous for everyone. Gitmo is good enough, and should be used. Period!

capejasmine on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Fire this joker.

BKeyser on January 30, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Clueless.

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Because traffic is pretty much the beginning and the end of the objections to this debacle.

Purple Fury on January 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM

The issue isn’t cost, or disruption, or anything else.

It’s common sense.

There is no justification whatsoever for sticking KSM and his best buds in civilian court ANYWHERE.

There’s very little justification for any sort of a trial at all, but if you’re going to do anything you do it in a military commission at Guantanamo.

It’s the right thing, it’s the practical thing.

JEM on January 30, 2010 at 12:54 PM

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Now I lie here in my sleep.

I pray the government, my blackberry to keep.

If I should lie before I wake.

I pray Michelle my life won’t take.

capejasmine on January 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Ed, be sure to read NY Times loon Gail Collins’ column today. She said:

Democrats are starting to join the Republicans’ call to toss out the Constitution and try suspected terrorists in military courts.

Hallucinatory stuff, that.

Del Dolemonte on January 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM

i just cant get my head around bringing this guy to the site of the slaughter

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM

The tax protesters are racists and fascists and emblematic of the Weimar. Bush was a fascist Hitlerian dictator taking away all of our liberties.

And the GOP are “scare mongers” and New Yorkers are wussies?

I’m going to need a bigger shovel.

SteveMG on January 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM

NY has already demonstrated their not wussies, the idea of putting them at further risk is just stupid pandering to a failed ideology. Obama is the wussie for not admitting he made a huge mistake.

fourdeucer on January 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Yes, if we try enemy alien terrorists in military courts, all of our liberties are threatened.

Scare mongering anyone?

SteveMG on January 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Oh my.

This should go over real well with New Yorkers.

CPT. Charles on January 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Gitmo should have never been an issue in the first place. All that is wrong with GITMO is that it has become a symbol for the man the left loves to hate: George W. Bush.

Obama will never admit he is wrong though.

Mord on January 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM

i just cant get my head around bringing this guy to the site of the slaughter

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Only if he’s wearing a belt made of C-4 and Dick Cheney’s holding the remote detonater!

huskerdiva on January 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Anyone who thinks New Yorkers aren’t tough is a pathetic fool. Hey, tough guy, go say it to Rudy. I bet even Bloomberg would kick your ass around Manhattan.

EMD on January 30, 2010 at 12:58 PM

“Obama and the Department of Justice need to get out there and push back very clearly with the public…Frankly, I thought New Yorkers were made of sterner stuff than this—traffic is going to be disrupted?” said Ken Gude of the liberal Center for American Progress.

Translation: “I know how Bush would have handled it, and I just HATE that guy.”

RushBaby on January 30, 2010 at 12:59 PM

This is a good comparison, but I disagree about Ed’s conclusion.

I was a volunteer at the NYC GOP convention. I made a point to wear my green shirt before and after the events.

Traveling to the convention center each day, I saw the impressive deployment of Police along the Long Island Rail Road, starting at Jamaica station.

Let’s just say the threat of a bombing would be somewhat higher. The cost, and security concerns are greatly understated.

Agrippa2k on January 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Fear has nothing to do with why we don’t want the trials in NY. Holder’s real motive is the real reason (and it’s not the one he gave).

Connie on January 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Real New Yorkers, like me don’t want to try enemy combatants as common criminals while giving them an international soapbox to spew their propaganda. Which is precisely what is taking place at the Siddiqui trial. It’s as simple as that.

We know we are and always have been the ‘bulls eye city’, that isn’t the point. Holder and Obaba’s show trials shouldn’t take place anywhere but in Gitmo. It’s about war nothing more.

Urban Infidel on January 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Heh. Anyone north of the Mason Dixon line is a wuss :D.

KSM should be tried and hung in Gitmo, he should never be allowed to set foot on American soil period.

MadDogF on January 30, 2010 at 1:07 PM

As a rule of thumb – if the “Government” say it will cost $300 million, I assume that means it will be more like $1 billion.

This is a political decision, in the end. The optics of a chaotic trial, running right through the election, is the only consideration that persuades the White House.

Agrippa2k on January 30, 2010 at 1:07 PM

you know, if Bambi wanted to close GITMO & sell the property to an investor (for the beautiful beach area), then OK. we need the money.

but other than that option–hell, why not get some use out of the place.

this is sort of Duh.

kelley in virginia on January 30, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Every day they have to be on guard against some nut who wants to push them over the yellow line as the train approaches.

They’re used to it.

jay12 on January 30, 2010 at 1:11 PM

My daily inspirational message for Obama: “Thou shall not lie”

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM

or Eric Holder could bring KSM to Lunenburg Co, VA (pop @11,000 & that includes 1,200 in a state jail). we could use the security, journalism, lawyer dollars here.

in neighboring Nottoway Co., VA (about the same size & with one prison & one sexual predator detention facility), they have Fort Pickett which could be used to try him. They, too, would like the money.

kelley in virginia on January 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

On top of the question of why and who ever decided that Muslim Mujaheddin should be treated like shop lifters and burglars, who and why did anyone dream that trials for martyrs would be targets for attack?

….all little sheep who’ve lost their way
…bah…bahhh…bah

BL@KBIRD on January 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Why doesn’t CAP offer up its facilities in DC for the trial? Are they wussies?

katiejane on January 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

If Gude is such a tough guy, why didn’t he offer to let them use CAP’s headquarters for the trial?

F-in’ poseur.

venividivici on January 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

adhering to bad policy in the name of false bravado is stupid, By the way that is the exact type of thing I have read nutroots say about the right for years now.

rob verdi on January 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM

OT: Obama worships by text message his first year in office. Instead of going to church he reads a daily inspirational passage.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

.. on his Blackberry.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

…from the daily kos

Haunches on January 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM

At least they haven’t started making country songs about it… Oh wait, they have!

darclon on January 30, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Keep it up on the left!!!

You know so much more and calling people stupid and cowardly is one of the best ways to get things done.

It been said before and it will be said again but I wish that Obama and the liberals would get this worked up over real enemies and not ordinary Americans.

jukin on January 30, 2010 at 1:21 PM

“I didn’t think the phallus-measuring would start this quickly”

Ewwwww gross.

KS Rex on January 30, 2010 at 1:23 PM

The main argument against NYC was that KSM should not have a civilian trial and then the cost and security concerns were just additional points to the argument.

myrenovations on January 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM

OT: Obama worships by text message his first year in office. Instead of going to church he reads a daily inspirational passage.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

.. on his Blackberry.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

…from the daily kos

Haunches on January 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM

I read it on ABC

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obamas-year-keeping-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272

RushBaby on January 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Gitmo should have never been an issue in the first place. All that is wrong with GITMO is that it has become a symbol for the man the left loves to hate: George W. Bush.

Obama will never admit he is wrong though.

Mord on January 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM

George Bush will be vindicated, not verbally, but by the actions of left.

redridinghood on January 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM

And Mr. Gude lives where? Bet it’s not lower Manhattan. The Won’s still offering us false choices, maybe next time we’ll get it right.

Kissmygrits on January 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Speaking as a New Yorker, the clear wussies are Barry and Holder and their collective cohorts. While the cost and the massive disruption to our state is certainly on or minds, these are not our primary concerns. Protecting ourselves from further security threats, violence, and terrorism is foremost.

Barry doesn’t believe in terrorism or even call it by name. He summarily rejects that we are actually at war with anyone. Every day Barry is in office, he places New York and the entire nation at perilous risk. And, one of the glaring reasons is that he is a wuss.

anXdem on January 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Let’s put aside the schoolyard taunts about who’s tough,” Obama said.

ten seconds later….

In the last year, hundreds of al Qaeda’s fighters and affiliates, including many senior leaders, have been captured or killed — far more than in 2008,” the president said.

I’ve killed more terrorists than George Bush.

Skandia Recluse on January 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM

What should we expect from the nations worst subversive organization…Center for American Progress? It is shameful.

d1carter on January 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Honestly, this is a really simple equation:
Loosen up the local carry laws, and we will invite any miscreant… as long as he/she knows we locals can cap their ass.

TC@LeatherPenguin on January 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM

It been said before and it will be said again but I wish that Obama and the liberals would get this worked up over real enemies and not ordinary Americans.

jukin on January 30, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I am wondering if these “progressives” believe that verbal abuse, and the petty childishness of name calling will get everyone to fall in line? When they realize it doesn’t, and always diminishes their argument….then what? What is plan B? Should we be worried?

capejasmine on January 30, 2010 at 1:30 PM

OT: Obama worships by text message his first year in office. Instead of going to church he reads a daily inspirational passage.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

So are these daily inspiration messages coming to the President from a secured source?

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 30, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Gitmo should have never been an issue in the first place. All that is wrong with GITMO is that it has become a symbol for the man the left loves to hate: George W. Bush.

Obama will never admit he is wrong though.

Mord on January 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM

He’d rather be waterboarded first.

Del Dolemonte on January 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Skandia Recluse on January 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Let’s give credit , where credit is due. The mere fact that Obama never served a day in the military, yet HE has taken out more terrorists….what an absurd argument he makes. LOL

Obama’s probably never held a real gun in his life. A sling shot would knock him on his boney arse. Yeah Obama, when I look at you, I see tough! NOT!!!!

capejasmine on January 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM

“Let’s reject the false choice between protecting our people and upholding our values.”

Obama doesn’t reflect my values, nor do I think he reflects the values of most Americans.

We have much bigger fish to fry. Haven’t some of these terrorists confessed to 9/11? If so, as for them, impose sentence and be done with it. I’d like that sentence to be to draw and quarter them and drop the four quarters on the corners of, say, Yemen and the head somewhere in Afghanistan. As for those who haven’t confessed, try them in Gitmo and be done with it.

GOP candidates should make a litmus-test issue out of this against any Dem opponent.

BuckeyeSam on January 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM

I am wondering if these “progressives” believe that verbal abuse, and the petty childishness of name calling will get everyone to fall in line? When they realize it doesn’t, and always diminishes their argument….then what? What is plan B? Should we be worried?

capejasmine on January 30, 2010 at 1:30 PM

I’m not worried. History is full of people whose mouths wrote checks their *sses couldn’t cash. The day the Left begins to try mass violence is the beginning of the end for them.

venividivici on January 30, 2010 at 1:39 PM

The only reason to be obsessed with NYC as the venue is if you are interested in the biggest show trial possible for something you want to say. Basically the CAP knows this isn’t about just using American Justice for KSM because that can occur anywhere in the US. They want NYC and a complete disruption to focus attention on their anti-Bush, Anti-War on Terror etc BS. Too bad their selfishness will not be repayed by a loyal democrat base in NYC voting against them.

Conan on January 30, 2010 at 1:39 PM

According to the laws of war, these people are illegal combatants. Not only are they not entitled to civilian trials, they are not entitled to military tribunals.

They are subject to summary execution – put them against a wall and shoot them. Feed remains to the sharks. That is what the international rules of war specify.

Rebar on January 30, 2010 at 1:40 PM

He chose poorly.

drjohn on January 30, 2010 at 1:40 PM

With NYC being a bastion of Progressivism, the peeps at CAP seem to be eating their own. As history has shown, and the Tea Party movement has witnessed last summer, intimidation tactics are a staple of Progressive tactics. Think of the antics of ACORN & the SEIU for example.

For conservatives this a double edged sword, CAP is demonstrating desperation here in trying to brow-beat their into line. Desperation denotes that they feel threatened that their agenda may truly be imperiled by the recent political backlash they & we have seen in NJ, MA & VA. I am glad they seem to think so.

As I’ve stated many a time in these threads, desperate peeps are dangerous. When a wild animal is cornered is when its most tenacious. When it’s protecting it’s young from harm, it’ll do anything to nullify that which threatens it.

Barack Obama is that young cub of the Progressive lions. The more we bring pressure to bear, the greater the odds that those who that cub become completely unhinged, go off the deep end and do something really dangerous.

As Biden warned, “Gird your Loins!”

Archimedes on January 30, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Hold the trial across the street from CAP’s headquarters.

Let’s see how tough those libtards are then.

Dark-Star on January 30, 2010 at 1:43 PM

All right, enough already! Sorry about the continuing typos, I’ve had my coffee and there is simply no adequate excuse.

I will endeavor to “preview” more diligently, I promise.

Archimedes on January 30, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Fire this joker.

BKeyser on January 30, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Man, funny Photoshop jokes aside, that picture scared the living crap out of me!

pilamaye on January 30, 2010 at 1:47 PM

CAP=CIA!

BobAnthony on January 30, 2010 at 1:47 PM

New York is becoming the the savior and the goat for everything Mr. Obama is doing. He has to vilify the financial district and do his best to justify his free spending on their back. Then he thinks he can impose on them for his every whim and without consideration of how much they have already endured. Remember on of the first things he did was buzz NYC with Air Force One. These people only care about their feelings, everyone and everything else is secondary.

Cindy Munford on January 30, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Eric Holder is a double disgrace because he’s from Queens, NY.

Urban Infidel on January 30, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Eric Holder is a double disgrace because he’s from Queens, NY.

Urban Infidel on January 30, 2010 at 1:48 PM

great photos on your page. ill have to take the LIRR out to the next rally in the city. maybe i’ll hunt ya down :P

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Keep talking, CAP… Keep talking, Libs…

Just watch as New Yorkers give YOU a Bronx cheer jeer in November!

newton on January 30, 2010 at 2:06 PM

OT: Obama worships by text message his first year in office. Instead of going to church he reads a daily inspirational passage.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

So? Ever heard the term “freedom of religion” ???

bridgetown on January 30, 2010 at 2:12 PM

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Haven’t heard from this guy in a while.

fourdeucer on January 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Dear Ken Gude and the CAP,

Go f*ck yourselves.

diditagain on January 30, 2010 at 2:17 PM

I am wondering if these “progressives” believe that verbal abuse, and the petty childishness of name calling will get everyone to fall in line? When they realize it doesn’t, and always diminishes their argument….then what? What is plan B? Should we be worried?

capejasmine on January 30, 2010 at 1:30 PM

As long as they are not exactly sure who bought all those guns and all that ammo in the last 14 months there will be no plan B.

Ain’t the 2nd Amendment great.

Yoop on January 30, 2010 at 2:21 PM

A little OT but worthwhile to note, it may have been an impeachable offense for Holder for the DOJ to have taken over the trial once it was established in the military courts.

elclynn on January 30, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Let’s do it in D.C, preferably in the capital. And let’s have the jury pool be drawn from our senators and representatives. It may be educational for them.

Choose_Freedom on January 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM

great photos on your page. ill have to take the LIRR out to the next rally in the city. maybe i’ll hunt ya down :P

blatantblue

Thanks! I appreciate that.

Urban Infidel on January 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Frankly, I thought New Yorkers were made of sterner stuff than this—traffic is going to be disrupted?” said Ken Gude of the liberal Center for American Progress.

Yeah, that’s it, genius.

The people of New York are put-off because of traffic patterns and not the fact they watched 3,000 people die as planes drove into the WTC, people jumped from the skyscrapers, and the buildings collapsed.

I live in Wisconsin, lost no one personally to the 9/11 attacks, and I will NEVER look at airplanes the same way again (never have flown on a plane, don’t know if I could now). I recently started a job located on the 12th floor in a high profile, 13-story building Downtown. One of the first things I asked about and looked for were the emergency exits, and how to plan a few different escape routes in the event of a terrorist attack. The concern will always be in the back of my mind.

In other words, Mr. Gude, the problem is not “the traffic”; it’s the fact that this guy had something to do with the horrific slaughter in and destruction of New York.

It’s the fact New Yorkers living, working, or conducting business within the radius of the trial will have to live like it’s Stalingrad and not Manhattan.

It’s the fact that Obama, whose administration does not take terrorism seriously, will expose New Yorkers to a high-profile trial that is going to entice more terrorists into action that Gitmo ever has. The threat of another attack on New York is highly likely because of this trial.

New Yorkers are made of the sternest stuff. They walked for miles across bridges to flee New York on 9/11, to go home, to live. Then, when the dust settled, they returned to pick up the pieces and move on. But not forget.

englishqueen01 on January 30, 2010 at 2:27 PM

KSM et al have already plead guiilty.
Don’t need a trial, just sentencing.

elclynn on January 30, 2010 at 2:32 PM

It’s curious how NYers “aren’t brave” if they don’t want a show trial to bash Bush in their front yard, but their hero, Bow Hussein Osama, who hasn’t the guts to call his muslim brethren scumbags for supporting innocent slaugher, is such a great Commander in Chief. How does that work?

Let the Commies Against People (CAP) and that scrawny fanged pervert Podesta come to Brooklyn and say it my face.

Western_Civ on January 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM

What’s the best thing to do after losing a safe seat in Massachusetts? Piss off New York.

There’s always been a question as to whether the Left is stupid or nefarious. Increasingly, I’m coming to believe they are that stupid. But hey, I’m sure the CAP guy FELT better after saying that, and I’m sure his intentions were good, so that’s all that matters, right?

hawksruleva on January 30, 2010 at 2:41 PM

“Obama and the Department of Justice need to get out there and push back very clearly with the public…Frankly, I thought New Yorkers were made of sterner stuff than this—traffic is going to be disrupted?” said Ken Gude of the liberal Center for American Progress.

Wait until they put the trials back where they belong, military, in Guantanamo. The left will sh*t nails.

Schadenfreude on January 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Obama:”Hey, I got a good idea. Let’s have military trials in Gitmo, Cuba.”

Caper29 on January 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM

It’s curious how NYers “aren’t brave” if they don’t want a show trial to bash Bush in their front yard, but their hero, Bow Hussein Osama, who hasn’t the guts to call his muslim brethren scumbags for supporting innocent slaugher, is such a great Commander in Chief. How does that work?

Western_Civ on January 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM

D.C. was attacked too, why not hold the trials there? Of course, that would spotlight on how ridiculous Holder’s reasoning is, since most of the D.C. victims were in the military, which would justify having military tribunals.

hawksruleva on January 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Brooklyn and say it my face.

Western_Civ on January 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM

ever eaten at L and B’s in brooklyn?

everyone keeps telling me about it! i have to go!

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 2:44 PM

Obama has never visited Gitmo. Let’s re-shuffle and begin the game anew after Barry takes a trip down there. I’m quite sure he has based all of his decision making to date on what he has read in the NYT.

Go there stupid. Then make a decision. Sheesh.

fogw on January 30, 2010 at 2:47 PM

OT: Obama worships by text message his first year in office. Instead of going to church he reads a daily inspirational passage.

faraway on January 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

From Bill Ayers, or Mao.

fogw on January 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM

There is nothing tougher than a liberal who is protected in his ivory tower.

Howcome on January 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Gude and CAP are . . . worse than buttholes. And I only said that to keep things somewhat printable.

WannabeAnglican on January 30, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Ken Gude can blow me.

alliebobbitt on January 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM

After 4 years there will simply be no one left to offend. There may be a Reaganesque 50 state landslide coming folks.

Mojave Mark on January 30, 2010 at 3:13 PM

I don’t know anybody in New York and I don’t care about New Yorkers particularly, but if this will help convince them to get up off their knees, wipe off their chins and walk away from Obama, I’m all for it. Bring on the outrage.

Extrafishy on January 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM

I saw quite a few New Yorkers with “stern stuff” running into burning, collapsing buildings on 911, doing so while everyone else was running out.

Gude and his ilk can’t hold a candle to the citizens of NYC who withstood the attacks and responded like heroes, many at the cost of their lives. I hate guys like Gude.

Bishop on January 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM

What can you say about a chubby Leftist douchebag who sneered about American “cowardice for holding Uighers at Gitmo.

Terp Mole on January 30, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Ken Gude was last seen…

… sniffing his fingers.

Seven Percent Solution on January 30, 2010 at 3:27 PM

What a shame this Gude dude wasn’t in N.Y. on 9/11.

ohiobabe on January 30, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Bishop on January 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM

true that
gude can tell my uncle he was a coward when he tried to help find survivors in the rubble.

what a

all together now..

TOOOOOOL!

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 3:34 PM

I just e-mailed this to Mr. Gude:

Dear Mr. Gude,

I have lived in New York City since late 1999. I was in Manhattan on my way to work in Midtown on September 11, 2001, and I am having difficulty expressing my anger with you, without resorting to use of profanity and epithets, over your recent statements in Politico concerning New Yorkers’ objections to a proposed civilian trial of 9/11 attack mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

In that article, you stated the following:

“Obama and the Department of Justice need to get out there and push back very clearly with the public. … Frankly, I thought New Yorkers were made of sterner stuff than this — traffic is going to be disrupted?” said Ken Gude of the liberal Center for American Progress.”

The issue here isn’t traffic, but rather the deliberate decision by the Administration to imperil New Yorkers by staging a civilian trial in Manhattan, when a legitimate military tribunal system is in place for handling terrorists. It is not the job of the Administration to “push back” at the public, but rather to uphold the Constitution and to protect the safety and security of American citizens. Since you do not believe this to be the case, perhaps you would be willing to go on the record and offer the offices of the Center for American Progress as an alternative venue for the trial of KSM and other dangerous terrorists.

Sincerely,

[Fallen Sparrow]
Woodside, NY

Fallen Sparrow on January 30, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Fallen Sparrow on January 30, 2010 at 3:39 PM

awesome.

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Shortly after The Obamateur summarily executed three Somali youts at sea, this Leftist douche had the temerity to climb up on his hindlegs and howl that Americans are as bad as the head-hackers;<blockquote>”…an enthusiasm for brutality led the US to emulate Mao and Pol Pot. We became our enemies… That we became our enemies is now beyond doubt.This douche desparately needs to trip down a flight of stairs.

Terp Mole on January 30, 2010 at 3:45 PM

awesome.

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM

I should have invited him to test the “sterner stuff” of a firefighter from Queens and see what sort of answer he’d get. I bet it would be “unexpected.”

Even my super-lib friend Obama-girl friend who lives a block away from Ground Zero is spitting nails about the KSM trial issue. I was shocked.

Fallen Sparrow on January 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Even my super-lib friend Obama-girl friend who lives a block away from Ground Zero is spitting nails about the KSM trial issue. I was shocked.

Fallen Sparrow on January 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM

It’s a HORRIBLE idea.

If you want to relocate, do it somewhere desolate with no worthwhile targets.
You know?

Putting the trial in NYC is a bad bad idea. Huge urban environment lends itself to the operatives’ advantage. Huge urban environment with tons of symbolic and worthwhile targets is an awful idea.

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 3:48 PM

Hell

build a special place in the middle of the desert for a trial.

blatantblue on January 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

The “change” that Obama promised is coming true – Democrats and Republicans are coming together in their hatred of this Sniveling Dipsh!t (TM).

Fallen Sparrow on January 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

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