Confirmed: Obama pulls the plug on KSM trial for New York City

posted at 9:15 pm on January 29, 2010 by Allahpundit

This is step one. Step two is getting him to relent on the civilian trial and send it to a tribunal.

“New York is out,” one administration official told the Post, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the decision had not yet been officially announced. “We’re considering other options.”

The Justice Department is drawing up plans for possible alternate locations to try Mohammed and four alleged accomplices, two administration officials told The Associated Press earlier Friday.

Though the officials wouldn’t discuss locations under consideration, others have suggested Governors Island, a former military base in New York Harbor that now welcomes summertime picnickers and bike riders; the U.S. Military Academy at West Point or Stewart Air National Guard Base in Newburgh, N.Y…

Mayor Nicholas Valentine of the small upstate city of Newburgh has offered his community as a possible location. The city has a new state-of-the-art courthouse, he said, and is less than a 90-minute commute from Manhattan. The air base there has been used in the past to fly in terror suspects facing trial in the district.

As much as it pains me to say it, you can thank Mike Bloomberg, an official Friend of O, for this. Once he said he was cool to the idea, that opened the gates for New York Democrats to pile on. The One’s getting enough grief right now for his handling of Abdulmutallab — according to the Standard, exactly one senator was willing to support the White House publicly on that — that he doesn’t need this to snowball and hand the GOP and easy national-security narrative in November.

Here’s lefty Anthony Weiner giving you the “no fear” perspective. Exit question: Did Obama trade this concession for any congressional votes about closing Gitmo and funding a new prison? Someone call Mitch McConnell, quick.


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Excellent.

True_King on January 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Waterloo.

csdeven on January 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Palin’s message regarding this:

People are celebrating the fact that the Obama Administration is considering relocating the terrorists’ trial from New York to another American city. Yet there’s still no talk of moving the trial out of our U.S. civilian courts to where it should take place – a military tribunal.

Now the administration is backtracking in order to fix its initially blundered decision to try these dangerous terrorists in New York City despite the great danger and cost to New Yorkers. This scenario is all too common in Washington. The tactic is to propose something so outrageous that the public will rise up and demand common sense, and then the White House “concedes” and changes its initial decision to give the impression of newfound reasonability and moderation. But the problem still isn’t solved! The trial location debate becomes a diversion so that we’ll take our eyes off the ball. The point missed is that our President still wants to give these terrorists U.S. constitutional protections in our civilian courts, allowing them to lawyer-up on our dime.

This tactic is in the same vein as another Washington game: creating the appearance of a “crisis” in order to push for a radical solution. (“The health care crisis must be fixed by government now or we’re all gonna die! The earth’s temperature is fluctuating; government must fix this crisis now or we’re all gonna die! Private businesses made poor decisions and bureaucrats claim they’re too big to fail, so government must fix this crisis now or we’re all gonna die!”) Politicians and lobbyists announce that there is a “crisis,” and never letting a good crisis go to waste, they propose a radical solution to fix it. The public listens intently, and in a sincere desire to help, an alternative to the politicians’ radical solution gets put forward. The politicians then “concede” and mellow out their radical solution. The public’s attention has been diverted to tinkering on the periphery, all the while ignoring the real problem at the heart of the “crisis” that started the whole debate.

The fact is our government has a choice as to where to try the terrorists. We don’t have to try them in our civilian courts. The peripheral debate regarding in which city to try these evil, dangerous haters-of-America is a diversion. Let’s get back to the heart of the matter: what choice will our government make – terrorist trials in civilian courts or military tribunals?

- Sarah Palin

deidre on January 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM

How about in Chicago?

Big John on January 29, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Funny what happens when you make reckless decisions based on political motives without thinking them through…

echosyst on January 29, 2010 at 9:18 PM

I would bet that The Precedent is going to try to put KSM and the wild bunch through reconciliation as a budget measure.

neurosculptor on January 29, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Bloomberg double crossed OBama, Obama didnt campaign for that Dem black politician who busted his butt and got 46-47% of the vote in the NYC mayor race.

If Obama wasnt douche to his Dem buddy, i bet Bloomberg loses, especially if Obama slammed bloomberg over the 3rd term broken promise thing.

Instead, Obama got betrayed by Bloomberg and now Obama is running for cover.

Time for step two – military trial only, use a funding vote in congress re no money for civilan trials.

Yes sir

Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on January 29, 2010 at 9:19 PM

KSM already confessed…

… if Obowma had any balls, he would bring him to the public square, dig a hole, slaughter a pig, dip some bullets in the pig’s blood, stomach shoot the son of a bit%h, then throw him in the hole filled with pig entrails, put the rest of the pig on him, then bury him alive to suffer a slow, horrific death.

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Other options? Like what? Moving it to the Court of Claims and charge him for some property damage?

ieplaya on January 29, 2010 at 9:22 PM

“condition of anonymity”…”officials wouldn’t discuss locations”

Have we not learned how to extract information? /s

Electrongod on January 29, 2010 at 9:25 PM

deidre on January 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Overton Window.

batterup on January 29, 2010 at 9:25 PM

Have it in Washingtom DC.

Eren on January 29, 2010 at 9:26 PM

How about in Chicago?

Big John on January 29, 2010 at 9:18 PM

A sterling suggestion. If there are no national security issues Chicago should be happy to take it. I’m sure some corrupt people up there could profit nicely as well. I’m glad they are moving it out of Manhattan, but what does that say about the resolve of The Obama & his administration.

Is this going to embloden the terrorist like Clinton did?

What a pack of crooks, putzes, & incompetents. God preserve our nation & ourselves until January 2013.

PalmettoPatriot on January 29, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Funny what happens when you make reckless decisions based on political motives without thinking them through…

echosyst on January 29, 2010 at 9:18 PM

But Holder said his decision was really well thought out because he is the smartest and best AG we’ve ever had.

myrenovations on January 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2010 at 9:21 PM

I forgot to add…

Put it on C-SPAN for the world, and anyone else thinking of killing 3,000+ innocent United States’ civilians to see, and maybe they might think twice if this is the way they want to die, if caught by our military in the field of battle, as a terrorist, in street clothes, hiding behind women and children.

Oh, wait, again!

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Palin’s message regarding this:

Who?

Grow Fins on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Now can we repeal the obama administration as well

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2010 at 9:21 PM

GASP!

How horrible!
Why would you want to waste a good pig like that?

justltl on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

I hear Gitmo is staying open. Why not there?

Chuck Schick on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Rep. Weiner said the Court struck down military trials twice.

That’s not correct.They struck down how the tribunals were established (Congressional authorization was needed first) and also how they were to be conducted (defendants had some Constitutional habeas rights). But not the legality of the tribunals themselves.

SteveMG on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

I say we have the trial in Rio Linda.

thomasaur on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Does this guy in the WH ever look before he leaps? What do you suppose keeps him trying for the PT Barnum effect as opposed to a carefully thought out plan? The process is more important than the outcome I guess. What a colossal incompetent.

jeanie on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

The Caliph doesn’t want to try them in NYC (to save Schumer or Gillebrand?)…he probably wants the trial in D.C. That way he can go visit.

By the way……SHOCKER he hasn’t found a church after a year in D.C.?

Maybe The Caliph….could ask KSM what Mosque he might recommend/attend while he’s on trial in D.C. then he and Michelle could check it out.

PappyD61 on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

deidre on January 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM

As usual, Palin is ahead of the herd and directing the political traffic.

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Some of the other suggested locations don’t really seem to take NYC off the firing line. So how is this really a win for NYC. Sarah is right this must be remanded to the military.

chemman on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Under Geneva…is a civilian trial permitted at all?

Precedent says that a civilian trial of a combatant can only be had if that captured combatant commits a civil crime after capture, as in robbing a bank and killing a bank guard as part of an escape from a confinement facility.

Once we start holding trials for non-resident alien persons who commit acts against US persons (and others) outside the jurisdiction of the United States…the Swat Valley, for example…we will then open the doors for any number of other nations (Iran, Venezuela, Russia, China, et al.) to do the same with our citizens in the docket.

A US soldier on leave in Malaysia or Great Britain…gets arrested and hauled into court for alleged war crimes for his/her merely being in uniform and having served a tour in Iraq, or Afghanistan or other locale? Not outside the realm of probability once it becomes standard practice to afford enemy combatants the full facilities of the US civilian judicial system.

The current Siddiqi trial in New York proves how much of a farce such trials can become…rapidly.

Not permitting military tribunals, fully permissible under Geneva, is not only Obama’s way of bashing Bush, but also a left-handed approach to abrogate established treaty in the matter of military justice under Geneva.

coldwarrior on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Palin’s message regarding this:

Who?

Grow Fins on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/palin-poll-zogby-romney/2010/01/27/id/348220

Newsmax-Zogby Poll: Palin Tops GOP Field for 2012

the_nile on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

I hear Gitmo is staying open. Why not there?

Chuck Schick on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

That’s Club Gitmo

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

That’s one Weiner I can’t stand.

txag92 on January 29, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Reality: O doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing and he’s having to backtrack all over the place.

Lefty spin: He’s flexible, unlike Bushitler.

Monica on January 29, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Starlink on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Palau.

coldwarrior on January 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Funny what happens when you make reckless decisions based on political motives without thinking them through…

echosyst on January 29, 2010 at 9:18 PM

which is why Gubmint is unequal to pretty much any task.

Geochelone on January 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Starlink on January 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM

I know the Pacific islands are hard to keep separated but it was Palau an independent nation not Samoa a protectorate of the US.

chemman on January 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Who?

Grow Fins on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Translation:

“I can’t credibly refute anything the lady from Alaska is quoted as saying here.

Therefore, I will put my fingers in my ears, hum, and happily pretend that she doesn’t exist.”

Tell us again, Sparky…what exactly would have been “accomplished” by trying Ron Jeremy’s stunt double in Lower Manhattan?

Del Dolemonte on January 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Weiner is partially right about the fear projection. Those fears are naturally going to happen anyway but it’s stupid for Republicans to say al qaeda is going to get us. You don’t talk up the power of the enemy.

There is a much better argument for moving the trial to military court. If These combatants were wearing uniforms, they would never get civilian trials, and it’s ridiculous to reward them for not wearing uniforms by giving them more rights.

I guess we just aren’t practiced at waging war on our own soil, but we should have enough commonsense to figure it out by now. I guess the last time was the war of 1812. It’s crazy to imagine Andrew Jackson reading the redcoats their rights in New Orleans and giving them civilian trials. We are at war with Islamic terrorists and when they are found, they must be treated as enemy combatants. I think almost all US citizens can understand this reasoning.

Buddahpundit on January 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Palau.

coldwarrior on January 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Bermuda

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:36 PM

coldwarrior on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Thanks. Good analysis of the blow back as a result of this bone headed decision.

chemman on January 29, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Tell us again, Sparky…what exactly would have been “accomplished” by trying Ron Jeremy’s stunt double in Lower Manhattan?

Del Dolemonte on January 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Fins would be hard pressed to speak with a full mouth.

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Bermuda was a different group. Palau was paid to take a group and Bermuda accepted some w/o conferring with the Brits.

chemman on January 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Hard divot.

SlaveDog on January 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Alberto Gonzales Eric Holder-Meet Bus. We can only pray. Hillary would have wacked KSM by now! :)

AnthonyK on January 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM

Allow me to repost my comment from the earlier KSM thread:

I don’t know if this is a Friday night dump of a trial balloon to see how it flies in the polls and the Sunday talking-head shows, but Rich Lowry reports a Major Garrett update:

Guantanamo military trial an option for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Fox News

By Major Garrett

In the aftermath of the White House’s decision to seek alternative sites for trials of the 9/11 plotters, including alleged mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, a senior administration official said Friday it is possible the suspects could be tried under military charges at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

The official stressed this is not the preferred option, but said using military commissions at Guantanamo for these high-visibility trials is “part of the range of options” the adminstration is “looking at in light of the fact some in Congress are planning to prevent the trials from occurring in New York City.”

There is no timeline for deciding where to hold the trials of the five suspects charged in the 2001 attacks. Senior White House and Justice Department officials are reviewing a “wide panoply” of options and Guantanamo is merely “one of many,” the official said….
The “offical” is using a lot of weaseling phrasing, but I think that this will go back to Gitmo as a military tribunal.

Scott Brown’s forthright statements throughout his campaign about the issue and Congress’s threats not to fund the transfer surely have had an impact in reversing Holder’s absolutely foolish (and dangerous) postion. There is enough mayhem going on in the courts right now with that Al Qaeda babe that Michelle Malkin wrote a column about.

I have found that on issues of national security, Diane Feinstein does get it. Kudos to her.

onlineanalyst on January 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM

SlaveDog on January 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM

If only the divot were caused by KSM’s sudden deceleration from dropping 10,000 ft or so.

chemman on January 29, 2010 at 9:42 PM

America wins!

See when Obama loses America wins

I hope he fails

CWforFreedom on January 29, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Now here’s a novel idea. Couldn’t he perhaps be tried on some base somewhere under the aegis of the military. But, I suppose that idea is absurd!

jeanie on January 29, 2010 at 9:44 PM

The Justice Department is drawing up plans for possible alternate locations

If I might make a few suggestions:
1) Washington, DC (right next to the White House)
2) Dover, Delaware (Biden will appreciate that)
3) Chicago (Barry would appreciate that)
4) Detroit (if they blew up, who’d know?)
5) San Francisco (spreadin’ the wealth Nancy)

Hey, their all liberal cities. They should welcome Barry’s “show trial”.

GarandFan on January 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM

I heard on Rush that Governor’s Island is desolate, it has no facilities for anything except some old, run down buildings. It would cost a mint to refurbish.

Bishop on January 29, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Palau.

coldwarrior on January 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Bermuda

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Surely we can come up with someplace cold and wet,like the Aleutians.

McBride on January 29, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Fins would be hard pressed to speak with a full mouth.

Kini on January 29, 2010 at 9:38 PM

AUWE!

Del Dolemonte on January 29, 2010 at 9:49 PM

This scenario is all too common in Washington. The tactic is to propose something so outrageous that the public will rise up and demand common sense, and then the White House “concedes” and changes its initial decision to give the impression of newfound reasonability and moderation. But the problem still isn’t solved! The trial location debate becomes a diversion so that we’ll take our eyes off the ball. The point missed is that our President still wants to give these terrorists U.S. constitutional protections in our civilian courts, allowing them to lawyer-up on our dime.

Direct hit! Sarah Palin NAILED it!

indypat on January 29, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Surely we can come up with someplace cold and wet,like the Aleutians.

McBride on January 29, 2010 at 9:48 PM

There actually is an island in the Aleuts close to Siberia called ATTA. That was the surname of the 9/11 ringleader.

Del Dolemonte on January 29, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Obama is showing weakness. Get out the long knives. No mercy! Put these terrorists back in front of a military tribunal. That’s more than they deserve but matches the level of mercy we should have as a people. But Obama deserves contempt for making this into an issue in the first place. Don’t give him any quarter.

Metanis on January 29, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Bloomberg was for it before he was against it. Hmmmm. I think after MA Obozo’s staff leaned on Bloomberg to change his position to allow Odumbo to ultimately reverse this horrific decision and try the scum at Gitmo. The circus of a civilian trial will display Bambi’s assclownery to all.

DeweyWins on January 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM

Maybe The Caliph….could ask KSM what Mosque he might recommend/attend while he’s on trial in D.C. then he and Michelle could check it out.

PappyD61 on January 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Dar-ul-hijra is still accepting new members

macncheez on January 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM

We know you’re upset at the IOC decision, but we have a lovely parting gift for you, Chicago!!!

GoldenEagle4444 on January 29, 2010 at 9:58 PM

“and then the White House “concedes” and changes its initial decision to give the impression of new found reasonability and moderation.”

That Sarah is called Discovery. The expected outcome of OJT.

Electrongod on January 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Rep. Weiner, don’t strain yourself thinking about this, but, maybe you should consider:

That the worry about trying the KSM crew kinda fits the idea that we are not dealing with guys who just knocked over the 7-11?

I believe that The One WANTS them to have a stage. Just another part of His “America ain’t so hot itself” mode.

IlikedAUH2O on January 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Palin’s message regarding this:
Who?
Grow Fins on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

You know, Sarah Palin. One of the primary reasons you’re paid to post here.

joejm65 on January 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Alternate locations being considered by Holder:

Dearborn.

SlaveDog on January 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM

They might as well call “W” and ask him where he’d like the trial to be….He’s the one on trial.

GoldenEagle4444 on January 29, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Surely we can come up with someplace cold and wet,like the Aleutians.

McBride on January 29, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Has to be somewhere outside US soil…

South Georgia or the Kerguelen Islands? Remote, desolate and darn cold.

But…

The entire reason Guantanamo was chosen is because of its unique legal position…non-US military personnel are subject to Cuban civil law. But, Cuba refuses to recognize US control over Gitmo…and refuses to push the issue.

Thus, foreign enemy combatants, captured outside the United States, detained at Gitmo are subject to US military law alone, in actual practice. Once any one of these detainees arrives on US soil, New York City or Fort Dix, or stepping off the plane at Newark or McGuire, they are, legally speaking, landed immigrants and thus are to be afforded the full panoply of US judicial protections.

Choosing Gitmo was no fluke.

coldwarrior on January 29, 2010 at 10:02 PM

the U.S. Military Academy at West Point

Are you kidding me?

My suggestion: for those who have confessed, drop them on a desolate island and then nuke it.

BuckeyeSam on January 29, 2010 at 10:05 PM

I’m totally lost. Moving the trial from NYC to some suburban courthouse makes sense according to what criteria?

Resolute on January 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Don’t be ridiculous, Allah. The decision to hold a civilian trial for a terrorist non-citizen was Eric Holder’s, and his alone. Obama can no more tell Holder what to do than George Bush could.

/s gfy

Jaibones on January 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Why is it so hard for some to understand that America wins everytime Obama, or one of his radical liberal supporters, does not get what he wants?

GaltBlvnAtty on January 29, 2010 at 10:21 PM

The trial location debate becomes a diversion so that we’ll take our eyes off the ball. The point missed is that our President still wants to give these terrorists U.S. constitutional protections in our civilian courts, allowing them to lawyer-up on our dime.

“Saracuda” Palin, right on target.

indypat on January 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM

deidre @ 9:17
Sarah get is so right so many times.

GaltBlvnAtty on January 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM

How bad is it that the best decision in his Presidency is just the reversal of another decision?

lavell12 on January 29, 2010 at 10:24 PM

watch how many weeks and months it drags on now until they decide on the new venue. like moving the gitmo detainees to the US, there aren’t many good options. it will become another spectacle for endless discussion about where will KSM end up for trial. poor judgement at every turn.

exceller on January 29, 2010 at 10:24 PM

get=gets. Sorry.

GaltBlvnAtty on January 29, 2010 at 10:24 PM

How about Guantanamo Bay, Cuba??

Hey! Now, that’s a great idea, Barack!

/sarc off

GoldenEagle4444 on January 29, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Here’s an idea. Hold the trial in the Washington Wizards locker room.

fogw on January 29, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Here’s an idea. Hold the trial in the Washington Wizards locker room.

fogw on January 29, 2010 at 10:48 PM

winner!!

bernzright777 on January 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM

deidre on January 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM

sadly, Palin is wrong on this. Deciding to try someone using our civilian courts is like a roach motel — you can go in, but you can’t come back out. There has never, ever been a case where our civilian courts yielded up jurisdiction to a military court once they have obtained it.

To do so would violate the spirit of Ex parte Milligan, in which military tribunals may not be held in areas in which civil courts are in session unless the President has been authorized by Congress to suspend the writ of habeas corpus, and the Congress has authorized the creation of military tribunals within the areas in which the Writ has been suspended.

If Mohammad has been remanded to the jurisdiction of the Court, then Congress must act to give President Obama the right to suspend the writ of habeas corpus within the location where Mohammad resides. The chances of this happening are ?

unclesmrgol on January 29, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Hold the trials in the WH; it’s not like Obama’s doing any work anyway.

TN Mom on January 29, 2010 at 11:24 PM

And if another city can’t be found and Obama and Holder don’t want to go the military tribunal route (the right decision) will this all get dumped back in NYC lap after Nov?

Just like Obamacare, not counting on it being dead til the military judge starts the proceedings.

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 29, 2010 at 11:39 PM

I’ve been saying from the time that the Gitmo facility was thought about that Wake Island is far better. It’s a US territory, thousands of mile from anything, has a large American base, and there’s no escape.

simkeith on January 29, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Daley,
Please don’t raise your hand and say Chicago can take them. We already seem to be attracting the US prison AQ loving nuts.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=354965&src=143

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 29, 2010 at 11:47 PM

IMPEACH OBOZO

psychocyber on January 30, 2010 at 12:31 AM

No democrat should be elected to office for 50 years.

daesleeper on January 30, 2010 at 1:56 AM

Palin’s message regarding this:
Who?
Grow Fins on January 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Exchanged your pet goat for an owl, I see…that explains the feathers…

lovingmyUSA on January 30, 2010 at 2:41 AM

Let’s put KSM on a flat-bed train car and send it across the country, so that America’s citizen’s can make their own judgements on how we should treat him. If the train reaches the coast and he’s still alive, then Obama can have him back.

fitzsweetpea on January 30, 2010 at 3:50 AM

Re: Plain

The tactic is to propose something so outrageous that the public will rise up and demand common sense, and then the White House “concedes” and changes its initial decision to give the impression of newfound reasonability and moderation.

That is so spot on. Libs do this a lot in movies and TV shows as well. Some goofy, over-the-top plot gimmick makes the lefty, central theme seem ok.

Dongemaharu on January 30, 2010 at 4:28 AM

IF, IF, IF it’s going to happen on U.S. soil, the only place is should be is in D.C. PERIOD.

Personally, I think it should be a military trial, and it should preferably take place on a USN ship, and upon conviction, send him down with the anchor.

But IF these fools bring him to U.S. soil for a civilian trial, it should be in D.C. and as close to the Mall as possible. One of the three, Obama, Pelosi or Reid, should be in the courtroom every single day of the trial(motions and all) and cameras in the courtroom. IF they do that, I’d support it.

Jason Coleman on January 30, 2010 at 5:08 AM

Rep. Peter King, one of the very few New York politicians I like, said that the decision to hold a civilian trial in an American court was one of the most reckless decisions ever made by any president.

How right he is. It is a lethal combination of monumental stupidity, blind ideology and arrogance. Having 0′bomber relent on NYC and at this point any New York State venue is a victory, but just the first phase. I hope Rep. King continues to lead the charge to have these trials outside US territory and changed to military tribunals.

375 days down. 1,085 to go. G-d help us.

J.J. Sefton on January 30, 2010 at 5:57 AM

How bad is it that the best decision in his Presidency is just the reversal of another decision?

lavell12 on January 29, 2010 at 10:24 PM

WE HAVE A WINNER!

leftnomore on January 30, 2010 at 5:59 AM

Freaking Obama couldn’t win the Olympics for Chicago, couldn’t stop the global warming freezing warming, whatever the hell it is in Copenhagen and now he couldn’t get the KSM trial for my hometown, NYC. That’s three strikes in my book. Now I’m not sure I can vote for him again.

JiangxiDad on January 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM

It doesn’t matter where a civilian trial is held, the danger rests not only with security for surrounding communities, but for jurors (and possibly judges) whose lives, and families’ lives, are endangered if they serve.

Buy Danish on January 30, 2010 at 8:28 AM

The Won has a tiger by the tail and you know what happens when you try to turn it loose. He is all about smoke and mirrors and getting his way. Follow the money.

Kissmygrits on January 30, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Weiner is a complete moron.

If you know that a flock of homicidal maniacs will descend on an area and kill innocent people if you take a given action and there is no real way you can stop them don’t do it.

Hey Weiney, Your guys aren’t doing anything to prevent terrorist attacks or are even willing to leave their happy little vacations when one happens.

KSM and his pals are not entitled to soapbox on my dime either. They need to be publicly executed.

dogsoldier on January 30, 2010 at 10:22 AM

There is ho excuse for this fiasco.
The “one” made a rash decision to satisfy his muslim allies and the moonbats, despite the impending costs to the taxpayers and the danger to the nation as a whole.
He then entrusted the corrupt and incompetent Atty. Gen Holder to come up with a plan to implement thje insane promise.
KSM who if justice prevailed would never have made it out of Pakistan alive, needs to be tried at GITMO by a military tribunal. Since he has already admitted guilt all that remains is sentencing preferably to life in a pig sty, guarded by German Shepards, on a island without communications to the outside world, including the left press.

There is absolutely no justification to spend $200 million on trying this piece of trash. That expenditures is merely a payoff to the ABA.

Amazed on January 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Re. Weiner’s false bravado. I remember a scene in Howard Hawks The Thinge. The scientist is chiding USAF major(Ken Tobey), saying “You sound like a frightened child.” as the soldiers go out to hunt down James Arness’s intelligent carrot. Tobey responds,”You’re right professor, I am frightened.”
Someone should take Weiner on a subway ride from Brooklyn to that hole in the ground that used to be WTC.

xkaydet65 on January 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM

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