Wow: White House opposes funding health bill for 9/11 victims

posted at 6:03 pm on January 28, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via JWF. So implausible did this sound when I glanced at the header of his post that I figured it was based on some anonymous source claiming that they may do it or whatever. But no: They’ve already said no, and Gillibrand is on record as being “stunned.” No kidding.

You wanted a spending freeze? You got it.

The state’s two senators and 14 House members met with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius just hours before President Obama implored in his speech to the nation for Congress to come together and deliver a government that delivers on its promises to the American people.

So the legislators were floored to learn the Democratic administration does not want to deliver for the tens of thousands of people who sacrificed after 9/11, and the untold numbers now getting sick.

“I was stunned — and very disappointed,” said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who like most of the other legislators had expected more of a discussion on how to more forward…

“She made it clear that the administration does not support any kind of funding mechanism that goes into the bill,” said Bronx Rep. Eliot Engel. “I think it’s fiscal restraint… but you know what? They find money for everything else, they need to find money for this,” Engel said…

The legislators did hold out hope, though. McMahon and others said they would appeal to the President to consider adding 9/11 money to the list of mandatory items, rather than discretionary measures subject to the White House planned budget freeze.

Total cost: $11 billion … over 30 years. The optics of this are so appallingly bad, especially in light of the rumors circulating about the U.S. and UK offering the Taliban $1 billion to play ball in Afghanistan (which may be paying off), that I can’t believe there’s no ulterior motive. Is this actually some sort of kabuki aimed at giving Obama an excuse to reverse himself about the spending freeze? There’ll be a public outcry, The One will accede and agree to fund the 9/11 bill, and then Gibbs will use it every day going forward as a lesson in how they can’t cut spending because the compassionate American public simply won’t let them make hard choices about denying services to those in need. Or maybe they’re planning to add this to ObamaCare, as a lesson in how desperately some people need health care? Or am I overthinking this because I simply can’t believe they’ve become this tone deaf? What’s up, seriously?


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What makes this so insulting is that these people are EXPERTS on wasteful spending, from funding junkets to saving some titmouse, and they want to put the brakes on a legitimate expense that actually helps people? Outrageous.

scalleywag on January 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Total cost: $11 billion … over 30 years. The optics of this are so appallingly bad, especially in light of the rumors circulating about the U.S. and UK offering the Taliban $1 billion to play ball in Afghanistan

And once again, he will stand by his muslim brothers, and shirk those victims of 9/11. To which caused the whole health problems for these people in the first place.

Nothing like thumbing your nose at the people you’re supposed to represent. Nice job Obummah!

capejasmine on January 28, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Don’t think we should either. Not because I wish ill on 9/11 folks but because of the precedent it will set. If the government does this, it’s only a matter of time before we’re funding every disaster, man made, terrorist or natural disaster in the country. All right if it stopped there but it won’t. I’m not in favor of funding this.

jeanie on January 28, 2010 at 6:50 PM

He doesn’t like Bush’s prescription plan for seniors, either. He’s for abortions all the way to birth, cuts to Medicare, rationing and death panels. Must not see any political gain in this.

Kissmygrits on January 28, 2010 at 6:51 PM

How much will the American people put up from this Marxist administration? The next three years are going to be a big test for all of us.

d1carter on January 28, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Rush penned an interesting letter to Obama today. If you haven’t read it…I’ll post it here.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012810/content/01125109.guest.html

It has the audio as well, if you’d rather listen, than read.

capejasmine on January 28, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Of course this administration doesn’t want to help them. It was our fault that 9/11 happened. /s

mizflame98 on January 28, 2010 at 6:54 PM

HC for illegals & lazy asses = necessary b/c America is a fair and just nation

HC for 9/11 heroes = BAD WRONG b/c Americans are evil, greedy & imperialistic

Ris4victory on January 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM

We have the best healthcare system in the world.

Leave it to the free markets: Why should we playing for their care?

rightistliberal on January 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM

It’s not the federal government’s job to pay for victims’ health care. New York already received billions of federal dollars that they shouldn’t have received after 9/11. We can hold a telethon to create a fund. With all the billions they’ve already received from telethons and federal gifts for 9/11, it’s kind of hard to believe that they never created a long term health fund with that money.

Buddahpundit on January 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Ted Kennedy spent that much on booze and broads over 30 years! Is he turning over in his grave? Afterall, he was the impetus for the whole healthcare push, right?

BoSox_or_Bust on January 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM

He doesn’t like Bush’s prescription plan for seniors, either. He’s for abortions all the way to birth, cuts to Medicare, rationing and death panels. Must not see any political gain in this.

Kissmygrits on January 28, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Why should we support Bush prescription drug plan? That is government take over of healthcare at $2.5 billion. Ditto for Medicare!

Get a grip guys: You can’t lecture on free markets and then start whining about Medicare cuts.

rightistliberal on January 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM

I work with a pulmonology practice and in a sleep lab, and I can tell you that the physical as well as psychological effects of 9/11 are still rampant.

We have seen a huge uptick in patients sent in by the doctors of the FDNY-WTC fund. They are showing belated effects from their exposure, and increasing depression, anxiety and sleep disorders. For all his faults, we never had this many under Bush’s regime – he was man enough to take on our enemies.

If this money is cut, there are going to be lots of people here who will suffer because Clinton dropped the ball on protecting us at least three times.

Mommynator on January 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM

This is like chewing off your own leg after being caught in a bear trap, then announcing, “I won!”

I wonder (and doubt) if the MSM will interview those four 9/11 women who bashed Bush for so long, to show America what they think about this.

Liam on January 28, 2010 at 6:58 PM

A telethon for AMERICANS hurt during clean up after a terrorist attack???? WTF???

Ris4victory on January 28, 2010 at 6:59 PM

what a rotten move, but not surprising from a childish punk admin.

rob verdi on January 28, 2010 at 7:02 PM

The man is a narcissistic sadist, who enjoys inflicting as much harm on us as possible; one way to do that is to inflame the wounds caused by those who attack us. Remember, one of his earliest acts as President was his flyover, at low altitude, of Lower Manhattan, as thousands of panicked office workers fled their buildings for fear of another attack. Then, his DOJ announces that KSM would be tried here in Manhattan, and now this.

NYC, he is deliberately hurting you. Wake. Up. People.

Fallen Sparrow on January 28, 2010 at 7:09 PM

This is a ripe time for us, at the water cooler and among family and friends; at the supper table, as Reagan said.

Ask the right questions, and give the best of answers, all at the right time.

This matter alone, and there are many others to discuss, causes severe harm to the imagery that is Obama and the Dem Party as a whole.

We have yet another opportunity here. I say we use it! The Dems aere self-defeating and -destructive. Tear their souls apart; make their suffering legendary even in Hell.

If not now, when? If not us, then who?

Liam on January 28, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Get a grip guys: You can’t lecture on free markets and then start whining about Medicare cuts.

rightistliberal on January 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Did you even read the article, jackazz? Have difficulty with reading comprehension?

We’re not talking about Medicare or cuts here, so STFU.

Knucklehead on January 28, 2010 at 7:13 PM

I’ll tell you what this is:

Promise spending freeze, and be sure it includes some things that someone other than the usual suspects doesn’t want to cut (e.g. NASA, funds for 9-11 victims, etc.), then when the objections roll in, abandon the spending freeze, while blaming the Republicans for it.

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Just the asbestos and concrete dust from 9/11 probably wasn’t enough to kill anybody directly, but it may have contributed to the deaths of people with existing health deficits, like early emphysema, or asthma. In some cases they may not even have been aware of their emphysema until damage from the dust pushed their lungs over the edge. So, it’s probably fair to say that the 9/11 dust shortened lives, and decreased the quality of life for some. If you were there, especially if you spent several hours there, you would’ve been coughing up lots of dust.

RBMN on January 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Health-care for ALL!!! Unless we don’t like you. Figures.

Lance Murdock on January 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Perhaps this has been said elsewhere: we have money for lawyers for the terroists, but none for their victims? Hail Obama the muslim.

Dale on January 28, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Did you even read the article, jackazz? Have difficulty with reading comprehension?

We’re not talking about Medicare or cuts here, so STFU.

Knucklehead on January 28, 2010 at 7:13 PM

How does it matter? Why is the federal government obliged to pay for their care?

What happened to New York government?

And my comment was in a response to a specific comment. Scroll up and read, genius.

rightistliberal on January 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Come November.

Every SOB Democrat up for re-election.

Every one of them.

VOTE…..THEM…..OUT!!!!!!!!!

Then in 2010.

It’s HopeandChange’s turn!

pilamaye on January 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Correction….2012!!!!!

pilamaye on January 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM

I try to share these horrid tales from various blogs with my co-workers via email (usually one per day) – the lone liberal in the group threatened to call my boss and have me fired b/c one of the emails upset him (it was about the no- bid defense contract zero gave out recently – the lib insisted that was nothing; that Halliburton’s competitive bids during BOOOOSH term were the single most evil thing ever and that I was a moron).

I have had the same job since 1990 & this dude, whom I have known since then, found my attempt to share info with my immediate friends emotionally upsetting and his solution? Threaten my income.

Ris4victory on January 28, 2010 at 7:24 PM

“Barack Obama hates 9/11 people.”

/Kanye

selias on January 28, 2010 at 7:24 PM

rightistliberal on January 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM

I read your other comment idiot, it’s also stupid. 9/11 was an act of war, you moron.

Knucklehead on January 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Come on AP, you know exactly what this is about. New York wants extra help for first responders, police, fire, volunteers and their families. They are the survivors. They are citizens, not terrorists. ObowMao does not care if they come, go, live, or die. Get real. Now, if you could find a diabled gay muslim in a uniform that was having trouble assimilating MAYBE you could get some attention.

Blacksmith8 on January 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Knucklehead on January 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

rightistliberal is just a troll. Not worth the effort.

neurosculptor on January 28, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Correction….2012!!!!!

pilamaye on January 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM

I believe you were closer on your first estimate. With a new congress comes impeachment. I smell January 21, 2011. It smells like, VICTORY!

Blacksmith8 on January 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM

CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE…..

What he’ll try to do by Executive Order in the Fall of 2012 if it looks like he’s going to lose Re-election?

This 9/11 issue will be small small potatoes.

By the time we get his “clean articulate” behind out of office we might not even remember 9/11.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Why should we support Bush prescription drug plan? That is government take over of healthcare at $2.5 billion. Ditto for Medicare!

Part D coverage is a program consisting of voluntary enrollment with the enrollees interacting directly with the insurance companies. To call that government take-over is pure ignorance.

ICBM on January 28, 2010 at 7:30 PM

OT, I know, but yoohoo, Ed !!
CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMEN !!
“The House must still vote on the measure before it’s sent to Obama for his signature.”

Then, forget the walking wounded at your own peril, dems !
Sneaky aholes !! ARRGGGHH !!

pambi on January 28, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Government made the decision regarding their healthcare.

DEATH PANELS !!!

.

ms on January 28, 2010 at 7:31 PM

We have the best healthcare system in the world.

Leave it to the free markets: Why should we playing for their care?

rightistliberal on January 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM

An interesting lesson that is most certainly not the WH’s position on the coined Obamacare.

anuts on January 28, 2010 at 7:33 PM

zero is like the ultimate sleeper cell threatening our republic – he is a bona fide maniac, a mentally ill freak hell bent on bringing us down – I.HATE.HIM. MAY HIS EVERY ENDEAVOR FAIL & may his disgusting life be miserable.

Ris4victory on January 28, 2010 at 7:33 PM

What’s up, seriously?

Obama is still so disappointed that his brethren didn’t get more Americans on 9/11 he figures this is as good as any attack.

That’s my theory anyways.

SouthernGent on January 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Again, folks—this “freeze” cutting funding for 9/11 victims, NASA, and the like is unacceptable. By design. The point is to allow 0bama the political capital from proposing a spending freeze, knowing he can get the Republicans to kill it.

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Total cost: $11 billion … over 30 years. The optics of this are so appallingly bad, especially in light of the rumors circulating about the U.S. and UK offering the Taliban $1 billion to play ball in Afghanistan

That’s about $367 million per year. About 22% more than it cost to buy Mary Landrieu’s cloture vote on ObamaCare. But you can’t use that much money to help those who got sick due to 9/11 rescue because EEEEEEVIL BOOOOOSH started it!

Steve Z on January 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Don’t think we should either. Not because I wish ill on 9/11 folks but because of the precedent it will set. If the government does this, it’s only a matter of time before we’re funding every disaster, man made, terrorist or natural disaster in the country. All right if it stopped there but it won’t. I’m not in favor of funding this.

jeanie on January 28, 2010 at 6:50 PM

There is already precedent. The Federal Gov’t offered virtually no assistance to the victims of the Oklahoma City bombing.

I’m not at all outraged by this.

uknowmorethanme on January 28, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Or am I overthinking this because I simply can’t believe they’ve become this tone deaf? What’s up, seriously?

Your problems is your refusal to accept just how evil these people are. If you’re still in denial at this point, I’m not sure there’s anything anyone can do to wake you up.

As for what will happen here… If a stink is raised about this at all, they’ll reverse so they can claim to be the good guys (hoping, probably correctly, that most people will forget that bad decision in the first place, and heap praise on Obama for doing the right thing). Bonus: If this story has MSM legs, it’ll be just another distraction while this SOB continues laying the dynamite for the demolition of the country… I’m sorry, I meant “fundamental transformation”.

RightWinged on January 28, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Does this mean that we will be paying for:

lawyers for the jihadis

and

health coverage for illegals

but not

health coverage for the victims of an attack on our soil that the GOVERNMENT is charged with making sure doesn’t happen?

UnderstandingisPower on January 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM
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The victims will be given a pill and then they need to sit down and shut up.

Their worth is 0. Obamao government health care.

/sarc

ms on January 28, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Some assistance is necessary here. I am trying to locate the story from last spring (maybe?) about how the White House was talking about not wanting to fund something similar for veterans. Am I way off base in thinking that? I seem to remember something along those lines.

anuts on January 28, 2010 at 7:49 PM

What’s up, seriously?

Leverage to force NY to accept terrorist trials?

T J Green on January 28, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Again, folks—this “freeze” cutting funding for 9/11 victims, NASA, and the like is unacceptable. By design. The point is to allow 0bama the political capital from proposing a spending freeze, knowing he can get the Republicans to kill it.

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Hmmm…. sort of like bringing up DADT to set up Scott Brown to vote WITH them on his first major vote?????

huskerdiva on January 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM

“Using a hatchet, not a scalpel…”

hungrymongo on January 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM

GUYS! This, along with NASA and who knows what else is a poison pill to make the GOP go on record as voting against a “spending freeze” at a time when complaints about spending are at a high.

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Here is the list of the EUGENICS loving PROGRESSIVES in congress.

Let’s target them and make sure they are voted out.

CONGRESSIONAL PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS – http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/

Caucus Member List
Friday February 20, 2009
Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Hon. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)

Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members
Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Earl Blumenauer (OR-03)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Judy Chu (CA-32)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Alcee Hastings (FL-23)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Eric Massa (NY-29)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jim Moran (VA-08)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Frank Pallone (NJ-06)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Jared Polis (CO-02)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-39)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

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ms on January 28, 2010 at 7:55 PM

Hmmm…. sort of like bringing up DADT to set up Scott Brown to vote WITH them on his first major vote?????

huskerdiva on January 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Now you’re thinking sidewise

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Umm, “thinking sidewise” is a compliment BTW

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Don’t think we should either. Not because I wish ill on 9/11 folks but because of the precedent it will set. If the government does this, it’s only a matter of time before we’re funding every disaster, man made, terrorist or natural disaster in the country. All right if it stopped there but it won’t. I’m not in favor of funding this.

jeanie on January 28, 2010 at 6:50 PM

I disagree with you because this was a quasi-military attack on America.

ProfessorMiao on January 28, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Or maybe they’re planning to add this to ObamaCare, as a lesson in how desperately some people need health care?

That’s what I was thinking. And no doubt they’ll find some way to blame the heartless Bush for their ailments.

Buy Danish on January 28, 2010 at 8:05 PM

I agree with Obama. There’s no reason for the federal government to pick up the tab.

Since a US Trustee is undoubtedly holding many millions of dollars seized from AQ sympathizers, fronts and fellow travelers, we should expedite a claims process against those funds on behalf of AQ victims.

Chris_Balsz on January 28, 2010 at 8:27 PM

It’s Barry’s bizarro world: friend is foe, foe is friend, up is down, day is night…

redfoxbluestate on January 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM

I’m beginning to think Obama hates NYC.

TN Mom on January 28, 2010 at 8:45 PM

DrAllecon on January 28, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Beat me to it. Good job, Doc.

neurosculptor on January 28, 2010 at 6:19 PM

With all the other horrible stuff he’s done, it’s almost too much to keep up with. The head spins, the wind can get knocked out of you.

But still, the total tone deafness of buzzing Manhattan for some photographs should have given us a clue that something as simple as using all these heroic people as pawns in a “I don’t wanna cut spending” game isn’t above this administration.

DrAllecon on January 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Again, folks—this “freeze” cutting funding for 9/11 victims, NASA, and the like is unacceptable. By design. The point is to allow 0bama the political capital from proposing a spending freeze, knowing he can get the Republicans to kill it.

Sekhmet on January 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

if the GOP were smart they should call the dems bluff. say to America “because of the runaway spending of Obama we no longer have the funds to care for are heroic citizens. They place the question to the votes do you want stimulus porkulus 2 or would you rather our tax dollars went to fully fund the 9/11 heroes

unseen on January 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Maybe it just me but I swear at this point he wants to fail. He knows the job is to big for him and he wants to make sure he gets out ASAP.Ticking off the R’s and the independents to make sure they never,ever think of voting for him ever.
Now if he is this tone deaf can this be grounds for impeachment??

Gracelynn on January 28, 2010 at 8:56 PM

In a related development, the NY Daily News just reported this, now on Drudge as well

White House officials have told the Justice Department to consider other venues for the 9/11 terror trial that was to be held in lower Manhattan, the Daily News has learned.

The decision came after Mayor Bloomberg and other politicians across the state railed against President Obama’s plan to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Manhattan Federal Court.

Attorney General Eric Holder now has to think of other places where the trial could take place, officials said.

It was not immediately clear if the reassessment means the trial will definitely be moved out of the city.

Del Dolemonte on January 28, 2010 at 9:14 PM

$366 million per year for 9/11 victims- a big NO from Obama.

A trial for KSM in New York estimated to cost anywhere between $200 and $400 million per year- a big, resounding YES from Obama.

They say you shouldn’t ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence, but there have been so many incidents like this by Obama and his team that the incompetence excuse is implausible.

Can people this clueless really function in the modern world?

Jay Mac on January 28, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Millions for ACORN, but not one penny for victims.

unclesmrgol on January 28, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Rush penned an interesting letter to Obama today. If you haven’t read it…I’ll post it here.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012810/content/01125109.guest.html

It has the audio as well, if you’d rather listen, than read.

capejasmine on January 28, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Dang!
I normally can’t stand to listen to Rush bloviate… but he put this one out of the park.
Just about said every single thing I am thinking about Obama right now.
Well done sir, well done.

KMC1 on January 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Wow, he’s not kidding about that one-term thing, is he? He’s going to make Mondale look like Reagan, in 2012. If he even gets the nomination.

Tanya on January 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM

This decision is all of a piece that denies the significance of 9/11 by ObaMao and his enablers. Can’t have anything diverting from that Day of Service, can we?

The decision is not only tone dear but heartlessly punitive.

onlineanalyst on January 28, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Wait, didn’t the Dems blast Brown about this same thing during the Massachusetts election run up?

William Teach on January 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM

tone deaf

onlineanalyst on January 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Yet, giving the program SCHIP money for people that make 80,000 and HC for the poor is ok. This guy is a mad man! He is an enemy of state and needs to be treated as such!

xler8bmw on January 28, 2010 at 10:57 PM

This is bad in the short run, but good at keeping the anger stoked. Hopefully, nobody will be fooled by these scumbags when they try their chameleon change in rhetoric.

Still, November cannot come soon enough. It is almost time to go Leftist/RINO hunting and put these vermin out to pasture.

Sporty1946 on January 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM

Sporty1946 on January 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM

I don’t know about your state but, if it has a primary then you should be voting in the primary for your new candidate

xler8bmw on January 28, 2010 at 11:13 PM

Text of the bill here

Luckily New York State has an annual budget of $78 billion, so it seems clear you guys can buy it yourself. Since it’s inarguably good and necessary, I mean.

Chris_Balsz on January 28, 2010 at 11:32 PM

I’m sorry, you guys. Based on what I now know, I’m with Obama on this one. The police and firemen did us a great service on 9/11 and its aftermath. But they didn’t just do us a great service then. They do us a great service every day of the year. They get seriously hurt, seriously sick or die with (unfortunately) some regularity. Which, to me, makes it terribly unlikely that they don’t already have good health and disability insurance which covers people who get hurt, get sick or die in the course of duty. And I can’t imagine that there are insurance exclusions about asbestos or weird environmental exposure, because they probably run into that in many buildings in the normal course of duty.

My Bulls**t detector is going off over this one.

Jimbo3 on January 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Jimbo3 on January 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Much of the 9/11 insurance snafu is not simply for the firefighters involved but also the search and rescue volunteers and construction workers also involved in the efforts immediately following the attacks who were exposed to burning material and heavy settling dust during their efforts to provide relief whose insurance is not nearly as comprehensive as provided to FDNY. Furthermore, many firefighting companies provided aid during the aftermath from as far away as Virginia and Ohio (if memory serves correctly) who also ran into problems with their respective insurance institutes not providing coverage for claims made during exposure that was not in the line of duty, since the injuries came while working outside their jurisdiction. Thus the attempt to create a consolidated location to provide aid and relief for those who put their butts on the line in the relief and recovery efforts immediately following the events of 9/11, especially as it’s becoming clear just how far-reaching the health effects of working on-site at Ground Zero truly are.

I think your BS detector is going off because you don’t believe anyone can really be as dumb as the Obama administration is being. Don’t worry, we have 3 more years for you to work past your astonishment.

Sgt Steve on January 29, 2010 at 1:45 AM

Sgt Steve: Well put. There are tons of responders who would fall through the cracks but for the aid that would have been provided through this aid.

What we need is press accountability (read: Fox News)to
1) hold every incumbent Democrat’s (especially those up for re-election this year) feet to the fire and press them to say on the record ‘yes’ or ‘no’ whether they agree with this decision while billions more dollars continue to be channeled to fictitious ZIP codes and/or congressional districts for stimulus projects.
2) an ad campaign immediately to bring attention to this snub.

Ask yourself, which then-candidate depicted here would have acted more sensitively on this matter?

I rest my case.

Captain Scarlet on January 29, 2010 at 7:21 AM

$6 Billion to pay “volunteers” as part of the “GIVE” and “SERVE” acts, but not one dime for this? This kinda blows a hole in any pretenses that Democrats care about your “health care”. They only care when it means getting illegal aliens and other groups to sign up en masse and thus be eternally grateful to their overlords in the Democrat Party, ensuring a permanent majority.

Buy Danish on January 29, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Hillary will stop this shxt! She fought HARD against RUDY to get the 9/11 responders treatment in the past.

ginaswo on January 29, 2010 at 8:15 AM

New York problem-they should deal with this not the federal government.

NRA Lifer on January 29, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Much of the 9/11 insurance snafu is not simply for the firefighters involved but also the search and rescue volunteers and construction workers also involved in the efforts immediately following the attacks who were exposed to burning material and heavy settling dust during their efforts to provide relief whose insurance is not nearly as comprehensive as provided to FDNY. Furthermore, many firefighting companies provided aid during the aftermath from as far away as Virginia and Ohio (if memory serves correctly) who also ran into problems with their respective insurance institutes not providing coverage for claims made during exposure that was not in the line of duty, since the injuries came while working outside their jurisdiction. Thus the attempt to create a consolidated location to provide aid and relief for those who put their butts on the line in the relief and recovery efforts immediately following the events of 9/11, especially as it’s becoming clear just how far-reaching the health effects of working on-site at Ground Zero truly are.

I think your BS detector is going off because you don’t believe anyone can really be as dumb as the Obama administration is being. Don’t worry, we have 3 more years for you to work past your astonishment.

Sgt Steve on January 29, 2010 at 1:45 AM

–No, Sgt. Steve. My BS detector is going off because it looks like this should already be covered. What I’d like to see is specifics, such as: (i) how much of this is going to people apart from the NY PD and Fire Department; (ii) what do those people’s insurance plans cover and what don’t they cover; and (iii) what are the specific health issues here that need to be dealt with and how much will they cost.

Fire and rescue crews should be prepared to handle dust and debris from buildings with asbestos and other hazardous material on a daily basis. Many older buildings have those things in them. So, for instance, didn’t the fire and rescue crews use respirators?

I need answers. $11 billion is alot of money.

Jimbo3 on January 29, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Hmmm….. I’m not so sure I support this bill either. I haven’t read it but it sounds like another asbestos boondoggle for lawyers and frauds. And once the federal government agrees to pay for medical care for 9/11 responders, you can bet lawyers will go to court for every individual in NYC on 9/11 to have the government pay for their medical care and survivor benefits.

polmom on January 29, 2010 at 9:27 AM

Good for Barry… don’t you people know a lot of those 911 people are Nazis?

… W. Churchill

max1 on January 29, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Is it too early to put NY in the “up for grabs column” in 2012???

Odie1941 on January 29, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Here’s the link to the bill: http://maloney.house.gov/documents/911recovery/20090203_MALONE_043_xml.pdf

The bill doesn’t just cover first responders. It also covers, the way I read it, up to 15,000 people who owned or rented property, went to school (for at least thirty days between 9/11/01 and 7/31/02), or worked (at any point between 9/1/01 and 5/31/03) anywhere near the World Trade Center who has suffered any listed physical or mental conditions as a result of 9/11 and the aftermath or had any listed physical or mental condition aggrevated by 9/11. Those people and any first responders are to be provided separate treatment under this bill without having to pay any co-pays, deductibles, etc. and will, apparently, be able to get full Medicare (and I believe, group health care coverage) without consideration of any benefits provided by this act. It covers not just physical and mental benefits for first responders, but it also covers physical and mental benefits for any surviving family members (for NYFD first responders) if they were in any way caused or aggrevated by 9/11. And NY has to pay $50 million a year, with the rest of the funding covered by the federal government.

It looks like a bit of an overreach to me.

Jimbo3 on January 29, 2010 at 9:57 AM

I’m sorry, you guys. Based on what I now know, I’m with Obama on this one.

Jimbo3 on January 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM

What a shock. Do you really think anyone here would ever think you weren’t with obama on this one, or anything else? Have you ever NOT been with obama on anything? Stop trying to justify your slobbering, you love obama, you hate bush….we got it already.

runawayyyy on January 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM

I’m sorry, you guys. Based on what I now know, I’m with Obama on this one.

Jimbo3 on January 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM

What a shock. Do you really think anyone here would ever think you weren’t with obama on this one, or anything else? Have you ever NOT been with obama on anything? Stop trying to justify your slobbering, you love obama, you hate bush….we got it already.

runawayyyy on January 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM

–So do you want the federal government paying for the mental and physical health effects of 9/11 for up to 15,000 people in NYC who may not have even worked near the World Trade Center until sometime in 2003?

Jimbo3 on January 29, 2010 at 11:56 AM

We can’t afford money to help a relative few people and we are going to insure the whole nation? You bet’chm Red Rider. If the White House denies treatment to these folks would a panel deny care in the Obamacare? Hope we never have to find out.

Herb on January 29, 2010 at 3:43 PM

I find it hard to affix blame to the Obama administration for loose ends of 9/11. How is it, nine years after the fact, marked by designating sums of money to NY & NYC that only God himself can comprehend. I don’t blame ReaganBush or BushCheneyHalliburton either.
Am I to believe that this is a new issue or simply got overlooked despite the many, many stories done by various media on this issue.
The FDNY & the NYPD insisted on being in on the cleanup though Guiliani planned on using cleanup specialists. The unions wouldn’t have it and many of these guys opted for comfort rather than safety in doing the work.
It is well past time to be paying out for 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina. If there really are issues that haven’t been addressed then an investigation must be launched and indictments sought. Stupefying incompetence must be cleansed by the powerful disinfectant of sunlight.
The taxpayer has been billed to such an extent that both cities should be gleaming from the gilding that he (the taxpayer) has provided.

thegreatbeast on January 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM

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