Gov’t pulling out of mortgage support as home resales plunge
posted at 11:36 am on January 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The Washington Post picked a good day to report on the Obama administration’s decision to end subsidies for mortgage lending that kept home-loan interest rates low enough to incentivize sales. Hours after its report hit the paper and the Internet, the National Association of Realtors announced that December sales of existing homes plunged at the fastest rate since the recession began:
Sales of previously owned U.S. homes fell at the fastest pace on record in December, though prices rose for the first time since the credit crisis began in August 2007, an industry trade group said on Monday.
The National Association of Realtors said existing home sales fell 16.7 percent to an annual rate of 5.45 million units in December, a sharper decline than the 5.90 million unit pace expected.
Overall, sales rose by almost 5% in 2009, but the bad December follows a better than expected November, when resales rose 7%. That increase had people believing that the overall housing market would rebound. The dramatic plunge in December will kill those hopes and leaves the Obama administration fumbling its attempt to extricate themselves from their artificial short-term housing incentives:
The wind-down of federal support for mortgage rates, set to end in two months, is a momentous test of whether the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve have succeeded in jump-starting the housing market and ensuring it can hold its own. The stakes for the economy are massive: If the market again falls into a tailspin, homeowners could face another wave of trouble, and it would deal a body blow to President Obama’s efforts to get the economy on track.
Keeping the mortgage rates at historic lows, which required a commitment of more than $1 trillion, was viewed within the administration as a central plank of the economic strategy last year, senior officials said. Though the policy did not attract as much attention as rescue efforts to bail out banks, it helped revitalize home buying in some parts of the country and put money in the pockets of millions of homeowners who were able to refinance into lower monthly payments, the officials added.
“We did what we thought was necessary to stabilize the market, but we don’t think the government should continue special efforts forever,” said Michael S. Barr, an assistant secretary at the Treasury Department. “As you bring stability, private participants come back in. We do expect this now that the market has stabilized. I’m not going to say there will be no effect on rates, but we do think you are seeing market signs and market signals that there should be an orderly transition.”
A few federal officials and many industry advocates disagree, saying the government is exiting too soon. They offer dire warnings of higher rates and a slowdown in home sales. Fed leaders say they will end a marquee program supporting the mortgage markets in March. Obama’s economic team, led by Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, has decided not to replace it and has been shutting down its own related initiatives.
Bear in mind that resale figures relate to closings, not purchases. In other words, the resales decisions that get tallied in December are taken more in August, September, and October, depending on how long the escrow was for the resale. As more people lose jobs, fewer are willing to both sell and buy homes, for the obvious reasons. And resale prices fell over 12% in 2009, which makes new houses less attractive for those who want to take advantage of bargains in the housing market. That appears to signal that the next couple of months won’t be any better than December, and could get worse.
Ending these incentives is probably a good long-term idea, but it would have been better to let the market deal with the pain rationally from the beginning. As with Cash for Clunkers, this effort most likely generated far more decisions to move up purchases than to create purchases that wouldn’t have existed in the first place. We could have saved the trillion-plus dollars this program cost, at least in guarantees, to right the deficit problem instead. Now we will just prolong the agony, and spend 2010 with the same kind of instability in the housing markets that we saw in 2009.
Update: The AP doesn’t quite use the word “unexpectedly,” but they come pretty close:
Sales of previously occupied homes took the largest monthly drop in more than 40 years last month, sinking more dramatically than expected after lawmakers gave buyers additional time to use a tax credit.
Well, six of one …









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It’s just so unexpected/
Abby Adams on January 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM
More stimulus!
mankai on January 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Hey, lets relax lending standards…that sounds like a good idea.
PatriotRider on January 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Silly me, I thought the Federal Reserve was supposed to be an independent body.
WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:43 AM
You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Wolftech on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Yay! Let’s drink ourselves sober!
cthulhu on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Put Barney Frank in charge, he knows this market inside and out,he will save us!
bbz123 on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Hey – they’re working on reforming health care or something. That will be the solution to the nation’s employment and housing problems. So shut up.
Don’t you realize how much Obama feeeeeels your pain? Don’t you know what he’s sacrificing for you?
WINGNUTZ!@!#!!!11
Good Lt on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM
to be clear this decision to wind down MBS purchases has absolutely nada to do with the WH, this has been announced and planned by the Federal Reserves for many many months now
those of us closely following housing have been waiting hoping they would change their minds but it is not to be, the FOMC minutes showed the CMTE split with some members concerned about pulling the MBS purchases in March but public statemtents by several FED voting members put the kaibosh on that
it is widely expected that inter rates for morts will rise upwards of 6% immediately and that sales will collapse
thus the massive shadow inventory of REO bank owned homes sitting waiting for a pickup, the entire purpose of the MHA HAMP treasury program was clearly IMO, to slow the pace of inventory build in the face of foreclosures
the utter EPIC FAIL of Team Obama to do a meaningful housing program as Hillary suggested in her WSJ oped 3 yrs ago (HOLC then would have avoided Lehman collapse and all that followed IMO)combined with the EPIC FAIL of Team Obama to grasp economic market realities and stop impinging job creation has resulted in the second leg down in housing I have been yammering on about for 2 years
this will be exacerbated by the BIGGEST WAL AWAY JINGLE MAIL EVAH! Tishman group walks away from Stuyvesant Housing which was THE BIGGEST RE deal EVAH
they just walk away, deed in liue, default, like homeowners are supposed to feel evil for doing, they hand over the keys and adios
who who is the biggest loser? NOT Blackrock who had less than 200 m of its own money in there
it is FANNIE FREDDIE and the CALPERS and other public pension funds who were invested
taxpayers are frakked
ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Bush’s fault. November’s up-tick was Obama’s doing, though.
Buddahpundit on January 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM
More government spending, more taxes, and more government regulations!!!
Happy Days Are Here Again!!!
jukin on January 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Er…The system CLEARLY worked.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on January 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Absolutely, and maybe some bigger housing “tax credit” kick-backs from the government.
Once an addict gets to the point where the usual dosage isn’t doing anything, they need to up the dosage, or quit. Quitting is hard, so I say we keep upping the insanity until we are dead or in jail.
forest on January 25, 2010 at 11:46 AM
That was a PR program only, and all I thought when he did THAT speech was that he wanted to check off some goofy list of having taken action.
That entire method has backfired, which is obvious. This will be one of the most depressing State of the Union addresses in my lifetime.
He made a lot of really smart decisions in my opinion. They drew blood from arch-conservatives, free-market types, but I don’t agree with that bunch.
He made the hard decisions, but then he tried to flim-flam the public with soft programs that have so obviously not worked.
The worst, really, was the stimulus program, which was actually very needed based on the State situations. But he packaged it as a jobs bill.
That was unfathomable to me. You give the states what they actually need to survive, but you blow it by overselling?
*sigh*
He could have checkmated every conservative governor in the country had he simply been honest and not allowed Pelosi Inc. to overreach.
It really saved teachers, police, firefighters, etc., jobs.
And it saved unemployment wages programs.
And we absolutely needed that.
What we’re still talking about? Jobs created/saved, which was always total baloney. It was merely about saving state services.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:46 AM
They are trying to hold off on the inevitable.
Give it up already.
We’re going no where as a nation until
all the sh@t hits the fan.
elderberry on January 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM
WPTS is Reid met with Gentle Ben and they somehow got him to agree to ‘be there’ for the middle class or some crxp Kudlow is pixxed, Liesman is denying it, (CNBC)it is a CMTE not one dude….if they dont pull back the hyperinflation will be insane when the velocity of that m oney sitting on bank balance sheets rises in the face of FED continued purchases
like Ted Nugent said, its a FREEFORALL!
ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM
More accurate correction.
WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Oh good. More positive economic news for Obama to tout Wednesday night.
Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Looks like home resale figures are…wait…you know it is coming…
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RACIST!!
jukin on January 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM
Meanwhile,
Christmas Surprise – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Get Bailout
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Christmas Surprise – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Get Bailout
December 28th, 2009 • Related • Filed Under
Filed Under: Real Estate
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For those caught in the Home Affordable Modification Program, you have my prayers. For the most part the government has let you down. But that same government sure moves quickly to cover their own behinds.
For Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac they got a special Christmas present. The 400 billion dollar loan cap was lifted late on Christmas Eve while everyone was home with their families. Well, many were home with their families. That is, if their home has not been foreclosed upon.
Well, you understand.
But to make it clearer, here it is again.
For those well connected to the government, a fast acting and effective program.
The Obama administration’s decision to cover an unlimited amount of losses at the mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over the next three years stirred controversy over the holiday.
The Treasury announced Thursday it was removing the caps that limited the amount of available capital to the companies to $200 billion each.
Unlimited access to bailout funds through 2012 was “necessary for preserving the continued strength and stability of the mortgage market,” the Treasury said. Fannie and Freddie purchase or guarantee most U.S. home mortgages and have run up huge losses stemming from the worst wave of defaults since the 1930s.via WSJ
And for the common people, a failed program.
The net results have been paltry: Just 31,382 borrowers nationwide had received permanent loan mods as of Nov. 30 under the Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP), the Treasury Department reported. Meanwhile, First American CoreLogic says that 1.7 million homes are likely to be lost to foreclosure next year.
“HAMP is turning out to be something of a disaster,” said Lisa Sitkin, an attorney at Housing & Economic Rights Advocates in Oakland, who works with many struggling borrowers. “There are delays and lost steps at every turn. The bureaucratic requirements are endlessly frustrating.” via SFGate
Read it and weep.
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http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/2009/12/28/christmas-surprise-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-get-bailout/
canopfor on January 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM
Unprecedented unexpectedness.
SlaveDog on January 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM
You’re getting to them Ed….Keep it up!
ted c on January 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Release the Plouffe!
rvastar on January 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM
Houses in my neighborhood in Toledo have been for sale for over a year. Some of them in good shape, others “fixer-uppers” that you could probably get real cheap. But they aren’t selling at all. I doubt I could move if a I wanted to. And my boss has had his condo in Minneapolis on the market for 3 years.
But the real estate market & job market aren’t going to get better until we get the socialists out of power in this country. No business is going to invest with Dear Liar in power, threatening to take them over as He’s done with Chrysler & GM, wants to do with health care & all student loans, and bashes banks. Maybe if fiscally conservative Republicans take back Congress in November, then people will have more confidence in our economy and will invest.
rbj on January 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM
Bingo. Now watch them REALLY crater in January.
All this talk of bubbles. Houses were too damn expensive, the market adjusted. If lenders hadnt put their head in the sand to the fact that houses were too expensive, we wouldnt be in this mess. Now the economy is in the toilet, so nobody is buying, Hey, how about not flooding the car? I mean turn off the choke on the economy. Then houses will sell, for what they are worth.
JusDreamin on January 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM
OT but I am pixxed Justice Dept actually approved merger of Ticketmaster and LiveNation!!
man concert tickets will keep being insanely pricey
remember when Ticketmaster bought Ticketron? sigh
its a monopoly I tell you!
and now back to the regularly scheduled unexpected economic collapse…..
ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM
What next… no free gasoline either?
mankai on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Please use some capitalization and punctuation in the future. Your post is unreadable.
strictnein on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Bernanke needs to follow through with the exit strategy if he wants to be confirmed. The central bank has no business spending a trillion dollars propping up the housing market in the first place.
Ted Torgerson on January 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Obama hates black people.
mankai on January 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM
jukin on January 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM
you joke, but actually Justice announced last week they are investigating reverse redlining for those subprime loans AND now they opened an invest. into the MakingHomeAffordable mods claiming those are somehow racially distributed as well
ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Well at least we’ll be able to get Government Healthcare when we’re living at the Union Mission.
kingsjester on January 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Anyone care to guess how much longer we can keep ‘kicking the can’?
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM
strict
sorry visual disability and rush
just scroll by it
ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM
If you don’t have a job, how can you buy a house???
What to people not get about this? No jobs= no money. No money= no purchasing of anything. Geez.
cibolo on January 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Home sales drop to their worst level in 40 years and Walmart rids itself of 10,000 employees . . . how long before even the most gullible people in this country understand that Obama is completely lost and is destroying the country. Wake up everyone before it’s too late.
rplat on January 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Down goes one more “magic wand,” Ellie.
Yes, they did promise us that all these “magic wands” would result in various “booms.”
mankai on January 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM
It was the weather
tomas on January 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Wouldn’t it be lovely if the old days where you just blamed the current administration actually made sense?
:)
Give it up.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM
I hate ticketmaster, just hate it. Fees on top of fees and then a few more fees just cause they can. Our local “classic” movie theater sells through them and their fees more than double the price of a ticket. It is actually cheaper for me to go down and suck up the $5 parking fee and go to the box office then to buy the tickets through ticketmaster.
cibolo on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Not one more inch for me. But I’m usually ahead of the rest of folks.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Once again the “intellectual elites” of government get “unexpected” results with their tinkering of the economy.
HEY! Let’s let these “intellectual elites” run our health care!
GarandFan on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM
And don’t forget all of those NYC and state pension funds that bought into that project big time.
Johnnyreb on January 25, 2010 at 11:58 AM
Just one more thing for Obama to brag about during his State of the Union!
I wonder what “unexpected” word will be used to describe the state of the union. My money is that Obama will announce that the state of the union is recovering and then launch in on his usual blame Bush line of crap despite the fact is that the is the Obama economy, Obama recession, and Obama unemployment rates. Obamacare was narrowly defeated but would have added trillions to the Obama deficit.
Hope and Change arrived on 1/20/09. A year later people are hoping for change and delivering that message in unique ways that give me some glimmer of optimism that the people can take back this nation from the radical socialists.
highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM
lol obama is speaking
HAD TO THROW IN SCRANTON, PA WHEN TALKING ABOUT JOE BLOW BIDEN
hehehehe
blatantblue on January 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Interest Rates start climbing and you watch this whole market implode…..so many folks hanging on by a thread on adjustables and a spike of 2 points in mortgage rates will cause 10 million foreclosures in the blink of an eye!
SDarchitect on January 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Sorry, but the “socialists” haven’t had power long enough to blame them for the housing market problem.
BOTH sides should have quickly stepped up and accepted their own part in this. But they didn’t. It’s too late now.
And the public is not open to either side promising that they are credible.
The Dems ignored Bush when he warned them about Freddie/Fannie’s extension into the secondary market. He was right.
The GOP ignored warnings that the banks were extending themselves into global trade strategies that were way beyond our own safety net groups to monitor, nevermind brake. They ignored the warnings.
And the public ignored the obvious warnings not to live beyond their means.
We ALL played a part.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Obama is speaking. What’s new?
He is talking about sustainable jobs, which is so, so goofy, since gov’t cannot create those.
*sigh*
Just more rhetoric.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM
That makes two of us.
You wouldn’t believe me if I told you how many liberals and even some non-liberals I’ve talked to think the ‘stimulus’ was a good idea. Either the ostrich-response to imminent danger is kicking in en masse, or there the majority of Americans are even more ignorant on economics than I thought…
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Interest rates will start to rise!!!!
xler8bmw on January 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM
Well before the bubble burst in 2008, they WERE giving homes to people without jobs or money. They called them NINJA loans(No Income, No Job, No Assets). It’s no wonder we’re in this mess. Not only did they hand out loans to people who literally had no collateral. But they were doing it so often that there was a term for it.
Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM
*jawdrop*
…as in a month’s time? Less than that?
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM
T-Minus two days,for Obama to git er done,I mean for
Hopey to accomplish something before his report card day,
oops,I mean the SOTUA!
canopfor on January 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Did he express sympathy for the people at Dunder-Mifflin who lost their jobs recently?
/sarc
Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 12:07 PM
We had an E4 Navy type who got two houses using very shady loans. When I asked her why she signed those papers she told me she thought she could afford about six months in payments using her savings and then she would flip them and make some big money. Sigh.
Johnnyreb on January 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM
For those of you unable to listen to Obama’s speech, here’s what he’s saying ……..
“blah blah blah help middle class blah blah blah children blah blah blah families blah blah blah middle class blah blah blah families suffer from past 8 years blah blah blah educate children blah blah blah hard working middle class blah blah blah.
Hard pivot to 50 year old Democrat talking points.
fogw on January 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM
It is easy to bash Barry O and his Incompetent Crew, but I seem to recall some Republican senators coming out and pushing the $8,000 tax credit pretty hard.
Not mentioning any names Isakson and Chambliss (R-GA).
Just A Grunt on January 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM
OT/NEWSFLASH
===============
Mark Steyn is filling in for
Rush.
canopfor on January 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM
I’ve been telling you guys about this for months. The government has artificially propped up the housing market or else it would be even worse than it is. Now they have to get out somehow without crashing the market.
And yet the same people think it is a good idea to take over the student loan business.
rockmom on January 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM
He didn’t say that.
He said “hang on to your wallets, I’m coming to screw you again”.
Knucklehead on January 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM
They didn’t prop it up. They propped up Wall St. You get a rebound on your 401K, but you lose in your house.
And, btw, student loans have zip to do with this.
Why conservatives would object to that program is just way beyond me.
It’s so stupid!
It’s a small program that supports our kids. Get the banker snakes out of it.
Be a hero!
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Hey, who’s up for throwing around more taxpayer money (read: “our grandchildren’s debt”) while we burn the fat cat bankers at the stake? This ought to fix the problem straight away.
forest on January 25, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Seems like it should have been expected. In August and September the new home buyer tax credit was set to expire in November (unless I’m mistaken). Those buyers made sure their closings would occur in November. Thus, November closings were up. People buying in August and September (before the extension was announced) had little interest in closing in December. Thus, December closings are down. None of that should be unexpected. We’ll probably see a huge bump in closings in March and then a huge drop in April, too.
jdp629 on January 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Meanwhile,
Coming Commercial Real Estate Collaspe- NOTHING can prevent NEXT real estate crash?!?!
http://www.cvnhome.com/?p=1104
canopfor on January 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM
What’s your take on the treasury threat to dump all the homes that are in the hamp program on a temporary basic on the first of April? Do you think it’s a threat to force the banks to make those modifications permanent, and who do you think is going to blink first?
DFCtomm on January 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM
And, btw, student loans have zip to do with this.
Can you explain why as the government has gotten more involved with student loans, tuition rates across the county have risen much faster than inflation?
Student loans are a way to invest in yourself. That investment needs to payoff for the loan to be good for you personally and for the the overall economy. If student loans go to too many people that cannot put the degree to product use, that money has been misallocated.
WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Hey nice to cya, Dark Star. Maybe I have been remiss, but I have not seen too many posts from you lately.
Have you been following the news about the AIG bailout and document lock-up? Ten years before we find out who the taxpayers bailed out. Criminal!
riverrat10k on January 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Let me be clear – this unexpected unprecedented turn in the market is not about me…
Daggett on January 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Oh stop trying to fuel the flame of class warfare. You aren’t good at it.
ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Can you explain why as the government has gotten more involved with student loans, tuition rates across the county have risen much faster than inflation?
WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM
WashJeff;Jus try’n to help.
==============================
President Obama Plans Student Loan Overhaul for 2010
http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/02/26/obama-student-loan-overhaul/
canopfor on January 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Awesome news for me, I’m buying. The Fed will try and keep treasuies low which will keep mortgage rates low after the program ends. What he cannot control is demand which is waining. Low rates and falling prices, awesome.
Theworldisnotenough on January 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM
Thanks, nice to know I’m missed. Been gone for mostly class-related reasons, as well as arriving late enough to the last bunch of threads that there wasn’t much I could add to the discussion.
Yikes. No, didn’t know about that, but plenty of other tomfoolery afoot.
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Wow, how unexpected!
ihasurnominashun on January 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Yes, please be a hero to all of us and go over to HuffPo and stay there.
Knucklehead on January 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Mind naming a couple?
cs89 on January 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM
Lets see. Loaning students a set rate of tuition guaranteed by the Government, learnin’ institutions can raise tuition by that amount and still maintain body count.
Did I get that right?
Electrongod on January 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM
That made me think of “Ellie Light” right there…
Ellie Light…
Elite…
Maybe that’s where the name came from, lol.
Midas on January 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM
His opening line was a show-stopper ….. “Hey guys,”
So cool this One is.
fogw on January 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM
As someone who ownes a small business that is directly affected by the housing market this is just more good news. Is this clown really doing everything he can to kill the small businessman?
lahlon on January 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM
jukin on January 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM
you joke, but actually Justice announced last week they are investigating reverse redlining for those subprime loans AND now they opened an invest. into the MakingHomeAffordable mods claiming those are somehow racially distributed as well
ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM
“somehow” ? duh!
max1 on January 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Partly. Subsidies for higher education are an easy target for conservatives as an example of wasteful spending. The good examples like the GI Bill are conveniently paved over in light of more recent foolishness.
But there’s another factor in the rising tuition rates that few people have observed – that the middle-class is getting caught up in a vicious bidding war for a college education. Wise parents know that without a sheepskin, their child(ren) have little hope for a decent career, especially as the value of the average highschool diploma deteriorates. Thus, colleges can blackmail potential students for an ever-higher amount and still be assured of payment.
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Does anyone with a brain really expect a turn around for the housing industry when the available jobs continue to decrease. Any real turnaround in housing, or any other industry for that matter, will start when companies start hiring again. The fantasy of Government getting us out of this recession will continue as long as BO’s fleet of progressive liberals run the government. We might see a bit of a bump after the elections in 2010, assuming some conservative wins. Then, at least, the federal government will begin in-fighting and leave Americans alone to try and pick up the pieces of their shattered lives. The real hope lies in sanity resuming in 2012.
Individuals are relearning what our grandparents knew about self-sufficienc, savings, and thrift. It will take some time for those lessons to be reflected in the government through elections. For now, the government will continue along the ideology above truth path, so gird your loans for more of the same crapolla out of D.C.
ClanDerson on January 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Why do we even need student loans when we have public (state run universities)? Just lower tuition and, Voilà, problem soved. (A mix of sarcasm and seriousness).
WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Sorry, Obama, but it hasn’t stabilized in AZ. We’re ranked 3rd in the nation for foreclosures, behind CA and FL., and both those states are more heavily populated than AZ. The banks here are still not lending. One of our kids has been trying to buy a condo for the past seven months. They are well qualified to buy the condo, approved for the mortgage and their offer for full selling price was accepted. However, BofA is now stalling and reluctant to sign off on the deal as the condo is a short sale. Apparently, it’s more beneficial to them to have something setting empty for over a year and not collect any mortgage payments than it is to sell and receive a new mortgage on the property. According to the realtors, BofA is doing to this a lot of prospective buyers. Housing sales will continue to fall as long as people can’t get mortgages.
GrannySunni on January 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Not to knock our ancestors’ economic values, but we have a whole ‘nother ballgame today. If the s**t really hits the fan there will be people who cannot be self-sufficient in their current location. How are the people living in cookie-cutter suburb homes or apartments going to feed themselves if even dollar-store groceries are becoming expensive? Grow corn in windowboxes? Have a hydroponics farm in the postage-stamp kitchen?
If things don’t turn around we could eventually see the abandonment of entire cities (or at least parts of them) when people finally run out of ready money and realize you just can’t feed a family of four on whatever will grow in vacant lots.
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Wise words, but I think a couple of caveats are in order. I certainly want my kids to get a degree, but I have family members who do very well for themselves without one.
As more and more people push for a “college education” and associated desk jobs, skilled labor and specific industries will look harder and harder for bright and motivated folks even if they don’t have the sheepskin.
For some, it makes more sense to get a decent job without the five-figure (at least) student loan debt. There are still quite a few out there.
cs89 on January 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM
I’d dispute that, but maybe the situation is better in your locale.
Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM
WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS SOME MORE OBAMANOMICS!
GarandFan on January 25, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Too much uncertainty for the economy to turn around – and the housing sales won’t turn around until the economy does.
All of the Capitalist KNOW NOW that we have a Socialist in the Oval Office – and he’s backed by huge majorities of Socialists on Capital Hill. That is a “perfect storm” against capitalism – which is the engine of our prosperity. If you’re a capitalist – you’re in a “bunker mentality” right now and holding your assets close.
Not until it’s CLEAR that the Obama agenda is dead will this economy turn around.
HondaV65 on January 25, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Now comes the commercial property crash. I know people who have owned rental properties for 15-20 years. So many purchased those properties for retirement income. Now, with property assessments, low rental rates, many are losing their income and their houses to the county. It’s deplorable. Fannie also got into loans to build CNC3 homes (tax abated). Problem there was lowering the tax base for services. A person making $30,000 per year who did not purchase a CNC3 home pays MORE then the person earning $300,000 per year who did purchase a CNC3 home. Not much light at the end of the tunnel.
elclynn on January 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM
this is worse news than I expected….after all the hope and change I have lived through this past year…. I am unexpectedly shocked.
kringeesmom on January 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Um, $80 billion is not a small program. Why should banker “snakes” be cut out of this line of lending and not others?
This has everything to do with this gang of Chicago thugs trying to manipulate all credit markets to achieve their prferred outcomes. Once the government takes over student lending, you will see the government denying loans to students at colleges it doesn’t like, such as Liberty University. You will see university presidents and faculty and regents even more involved in campaign fundraising in order to keep the government credit flowing to their schools. Everything will become subject to political wheeling and dealing.
This is the Chicago Way.
rockmom on January 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Extra credit: Who did Jefferson, Madison et al trust less? Career politicians or “banker snakes?”
cs89 on January 25, 2010 at 1:11 PM
The One has no immediate plan to get the economy going. Just pork, pie-in-the-sky and favors to donors. And he is losing spending options.
I don’t know why the Dem’s and the lefty media haven’t figured all this out. We ain’t going far in the short term. And the long term?
They want to give over $30K a year in gravy to people who do nothing while Chinese will work for $50 a month.
Do the math, libs!
IlikedAUH2O on January 25, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Excellent news! I am just about to put my condo back on the market in Florida this spring. I’m sure this will do wonders for attracting buyers in an already anemic market. /sarc
You know, if these a$$hats had just stayed the frak out of the whole mess, we might be on the road to legitimate recovery by now (for that matter, if they’d never gotten involved at all, we might not have experienced a bubble in the first place). Instead — as predicted — they’ve probably made things worse, esp. since there is still plenty of bad paper out there that has yet to come due (see: California).
I HAAAAAAAAATE these people!!!! They are the stupidest human beings on the planet — one hundred percent ignorant of economics and how it works.
NoLeftTurn on January 25, 2010 at 1:28 PM
GrannySunni on January 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM
BofA will never process the short sale. Trust me. Tell your kids to find anything else, they have no hope of BofA closing that deal.
ORconservative on January 25, 2010 at 1:34 PM
Let’s just make sure that people who can’t afford a home get a mortgage.
search4truth on January 25, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Obama admits openly and repeatedly that ObamaCare has been his main focus/goal in his presidency.
How is it unfair to blame his lack of action for the lack of improvement? If he had tried something, anything, to help unemployment, people would be a lot less eager to place blame. Instead of realizing that, he continues his backroom deals trying to push unpopular reform when Americans are literally begging them to help with the economy.
I suppose as long as the minority of the population represented by people like AnninCA keep on with the Let’s Blame Bush Plan, Obama will think it’s a good one and keep with it.
I’m not surprised that a California liberal is of the opinion that pushing for unprecidented minority home loans is of the opinion that affirmative action in lending is the only kind of action necessary.
RachDubya on January 25, 2010 at 2:28 PM
Which reminds me, all you taxpayers, do me a favor and thank your kids for helping with my downpayment. Suckers…
JusDreamin on January 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM
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