Biden officially drops out of DE Senate race

posted at 10:55 am on January 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, Joe Biden’s office insisted on a correction in a Delaware Online story that had him attempting to get columnist Harry Themal to pressure his son into running for Biden’s old Senate seat, held provisionally by Ted Kaufman for the remainder of Biden’s term, which expires this year.  The Vice President insisted that he told Themal to get Kaufman to run for the seat, although Kaufman pledged that he would only serve the interim term and would not run in the fall.  Beau Biden made the reason for his father’s correction plain this morning in an e-mail to supporters (via HA reader William T):

Dear William,

As many of you know, since returning home from Iraq, I have been giving serious consideration to running for the United States Senate. I have received strong encouragement both here in Delaware and all across the country to undertake this effort – and this outpouring of support has truly been humbling.

I understand why people care so deeply about this election. The challenges we’re facing as a country are extraordinarily difficult. The economy. Jobs. Health care. Energy. Education. Climate change. Financial regulation. Foreign policy. These are not only the issues of the moment – they’re the issues that will determine our children’s future. And as someone who has had the privilege of serving with the bravest men and women on this planet, I care deeply about how we treat our returning veterans and how we resolve our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I feel strongly about these issues. However, my first responsibilities are here in Delaware. I have a duty to fulfill as Attorney General – and the immediate need to focus on a case of great consequence. And that is what I must do. Therefore I cannot and will not run for the United States Senate in 2010. I will run for reelection as Attorney General.

One of the primary reasons I ran for Attorney General was to protect the most vulnerable among us: children. As the father of two young children, I can think of no worse crime than those committed by child predators. It is why one of my first actions and top priorities as Attorney General was the creation of the Child Predator Task Force.

The idea that any child can be a victim of abuse is horrific. The fact that it has engulfed an entire community is unspeakable. The pain and trauma suffered by the children, their parents, and the families, can’t be measured. But justice can be done. And I am determined to see that it is.

I have a job to finish. And that’s what I must do.

Thank you for all your support,

Beau Biden

Translation: This year looks bad for Democrats, and I’ll take a pass. After all, Biden wouldn’t have had to quit his AG job to run for the Senate, as his term would have expired anyway. There will be other AGs after Biden, since there will always be crime, and there will always be cases caught in the transition. That’s why AGs have career prosecutors in their offices. If Beau thought he could win, he would run.

The AP confirms Biden’s decision to pass on a Senate bid:

Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden will not be running for the U.S. Senate seat once held by his father, Vice President Joe Biden.

The younger Biden told supporters in an e-mail Monday that he will run for re-election as attorney general rather than seek the Democratic nomination for Senate.

This is why Biden was desperate to get Themal to lean on Kaufman. As I explained in my update, it was an even clearer indication that Beau Biden wouldn’t run in the race, and after yesterday’s events, the younger Biden’s hand got forced.


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Now if we can get just the other Biden and his boss to drop out…

PatriotRider on January 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Hello Senator Castle!

ginaswo on January 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM

The challenges we’re facing as a country are extraordinarily difficult.

This is the case every two years in this country according to politcians. Don’t let a crisis go to waste.

WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Obama, there is a disturbance in the Force.

uknowmorethanme on January 25, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Translation: This year looks bad for Democrats, and I’ll take a pass.

You can thank your dad and his buddies for that!

ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM

The Vice President insisted that he told Themal to get Kaufman to run for the seat, although Kaufman pledged that he would only serve the interim term and would not run in the fall.

Sheriff Joe thinks all promises come with an expiration date.

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Ed, you can pat yourself on the back but you really have to live here to understand how small Delaware is and who the Bidens are here. My guess is that Beau will run for the seat next time it comes around — I guess 2016.

Meanwhile, Castle’s Democrat opponent will likely be John Carney, who is a former Delaware Lieutenant Governor but who did NOT get the party nod for the gubernatorial primary. That went to Jack Markell, who went on to become governor.

The Democrat Party in Delaware doesn’t exactly owe Carney something, but they kinda do. My guess is he will run against Castle and the Dems here will fall over themselves to ensure he wins. Even if it’s just for one term to hold the seat for Beau Biden.

You heard it here first.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 10:54 AM

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Translation: This year looks bad for Democrats, and I’ll take a pass.

Ol’ Joe Biden is looking like a wise old sage today. He won’t even have the boy go on out there and get in the mix.

Dems retiring
Dems not running

What Dems can win this year? Incumbents? The ones not running?

ted c on January 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM

This doesn’t surprise me. My mom works for a life-long Democrat that always donates big. She told me that he had started donating to Mike Castle, as that’s how much he didn’t want Beau in the Senate. Apparently the boss was upset about a crime spree in the beach area (where his businesses are) where the criminals ran to one of the Carolina’s, and Beau refused to extridite them, citing cost and general lack of interest. They robbed 60+ houses and affected business in the resort area – I guess Beau thought SLD wouldn’t care.

Anna on January 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Beau Biden his time.

Maybe he thought about another state Attorney General who ran for Senate–Martha Coakley.

Could this be contagious and affect AG Blumenthal (D-CT)?

Steve Z on January 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Could this be contagious and affect AG Blumenthal (D-CT)?

Steve Z on January 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM

We can only hope. Blumenthal’s a clown who will likely get exposed during the campaign, but him dropping out of the race now despite a 30 point lead makes it much more likely that Rob Simmons walks away with the seat.

teke184 on January 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Beau Biden must not have a truck.

WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Another issue Beau has to deal with at home is that we have a pediatrician in the beach resort area who has recently been arrested for sexually molesting up to 100 young girls over the past 10 or 15 years. It appears that everybody knew it — other doctors, the police, etc. — and some complaints were filed but the guy was never arrested and prosecuted. So, this is a big huge blot of the state government right now, including the attorney general’s office.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM

I have thought since the day the stimulus bill was passed in a great rush, with loads of warnings of fear, that the Dems blew it.

I still think I’m right. The Dems will be voted out, and it’s not because the economy is a mess. We all knew that wouldn’t get fixed fast. It’s not because Obama is some socialist. Most of us don’t buy into all that far-right junk. It’s not even about HC. We just think Congress overcomplicated that one. We still really want reform, just get real.

It is due to the stimulus bill, which drove up the deficit beyond reason and hasn’t delivered what the Dems promised.

They over-promised/over-played their hand.

There are consequences when you do that. It’s as severe of a mistake as Bush and WMD. And the apologists sound about the same.

I’m convinced that Independents tend to be more moderate, less prone to ideology, and when that group get stubborn? The party in power is going to lose.

Now, our voting choices are not infinite. Voting FOR others doesn’t mean a mandate.

I still don’t think either side is listening to people. I think they listen to one another’s derivative explanations about what people mean.

*sigh*

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Now if we can get just the other Biden and his boss to drop out…

PatriotRider on January 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Only problem is that then either Nancy or Harry (or Robert Byrd?) then gets to sit in the Oval Office. I think Biden is the least worst of the lot. He’s merely inept.

rbj on January 25, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Democrats are going to be “strategically redeployed” this upcoming election… away from the DC battlefield… back closer to their states of origin… to their hometowns… after they lose or run from their federal jobs.

ray on January 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM

I think this is what happened:

Following the Mass. special election, the Dems told each other that they need to be more like Scott Brown. This prompted Joe Biden to go out and tell the world that his son was available.

ignorantapathy on January 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Stop harassing this great Delawarean you right wing teabagging racist racists!!
– Ellie Light
Wilmington

angryed on January 25, 2010 at 11:12 AM

This looks good for another Republican pickup. And they told us the GOP couldn’t compete in the Northeast. If Obama loses just a handful of those states in 2012, he’s screwed.

Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Another issue Beau has to deal with at home is that we have a pediatrician in the beach resort area who has recently been arrested for sexually molesting up to 100 young girls over the past 10 or 15 years. It appears that everybody knew it — other doctors, the police, etc. — and some complaints were filed but the guy was never arrested and prosecuted. So, this is a big huge blot of the state government right now, including the attorney general’s office.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM

This is the “big case” he is talking about. I don’t think anyone is blaming Biden or the AG’s office for this happening, but certainly eyebrows could have been raised had he walked away from a case of this magnitude to run for the Senate.

rockmom on January 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Biden officially drops out of DE Senate race

…after it was discovered he had plagiarized another author.

Like father like son.

rightside on January 25, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Stop harassing this great Delawarean you right wing teabagging racist racists!!
– Ellie Light

angryed on January 25, 2010 at 11:12 AM

I am going to say some HotAir insider is going to get the user name “Ellie Light” in the next few days. Just like SolidBPLus did a few weeks ago.

WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:15 AM

This is the “big case” he is talking about. I don’t think anyone is blaming Biden or the AG’s office for this happening, but certainly eyebrows could have been raised had he walked away from a case of this magnitude to run for the Senate.

rockmom on January 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Exactly. And in six years he can run for the senate bragging about about how he this guy behind bars.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Beau Biden his time.

Maybe he thought about another state Attorney General who ran for Senate–Martha Coakley.

Could this be contagious and affect AG Blumenthal (D-CT)?

Steve Z on January 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM

That’s 5 demerits for an obviously horrible pun. ;)

Didn’t Blumenthal make a lot of headlines last year, or 2008, by trying to go after the “fat cats”?

TQM38a on January 25, 2010 at 11:16 AM

This looks good for another Republican pickup. And they told us the GOP couldn’t compete in the Northeast. If Obama loses just a handful of those states in 2012, he’s screwed.

Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Obviously, the GOP will benefit, but the wins will be very temporary if the agenda is to go back to some nostalgic retro-policy of Reagan.

Independents aren’t into either viewpoint. We’re ready for moving forward.

That means:

Do offer real HC reform.
Do continue the revision on banking laws. They are, obviously, way out of control.
Do address in a reasonable way the issue of gay rights. You may not want marriage, but don’t block DADT progress. That would be a mistake.
Dial down abortion talk.
Do offer moderate Supreme Court appointments.

Continue the partisanship, “We won. Get over it” dialogue?

I can almost guarantee you that there will yet another flip back, within 2 years.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Beau Biden must not have a truck.

WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM

+10

Roc on January 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM

The big win in MA was for moderates.

Either BOTH sides hear them, or you’re going to have your hearts broken.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Beau Biden must not have a truck.

WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM

+10

Roc on January 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Listen, honey, Beau Biden lives about two and a half miles from his office and he doesn’t even drive himself in.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM

And for those of you imposing your purity test on Palin?

You now look as rigid as the far left does in attacking her over her hair-do.

I know I’m just so over all that. Really, aren’t some of you also over all this anger? Aren’t you also ready to see some real compromise and progress?

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Obviously, the GOP will benefit, but the wins will be very temporary if the agenda is to go back to some nostalgic retro-policy of Reagan.

Independents aren’t into either viewpoint. We’re ready for moving forward.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Well if Mike Castle’s website is any indication, the dude’s a moderate-to-liberal Republican. He supports investing in alternative energy sources(he’s one of the infamous “Cap-and-Tax Eight) and I believe he’s pro-choice. So it’s gonna be very difficult for the Dems and the media(I know, I’m being redundant) to paint him as a “Bush/Cheney Republican”.

I assume since only Cao voted for Obamacare in the House and no one voted for Porklus, that he’s standing firm with the GOP in opposing most of Obama’s agenda. So he looks like a Republican we can live with.

Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM

AnninCA, your points are valid other than the one on “moderate” supreme court justices. Conservative-libertarian supreme court appointments like Roberts is the only way to go if we want our freedom and property protected.

I would add the R’s need to have a great game plan for job creation that dovetails with HC reform and banking reform.

ray on January 25, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Well if Mike Castle’s website is any indication, the dude’s a moderate-to-liberal Republican. He supports investing in alternative energy sources(he’s one of the infamous “Cap-and-Tax Eight) and I believe he’s pro-choice. So it’s gonna be very difficult for the Dems and the media(I know, I’m being redundant) to paint him as a “Bush/Cheney Republican”.

I assume since only Cao voted for Obamacare in the House and no one voted for Porklus, that he’s standing firm with the GOP in opposing most of Obama’s agenda. So he looks like a Republican we can live with.

Doughboy on January 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Good.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

AnninCA, your points are valid other than the one on “moderate” supreme court justices. Conservative-libertarian supreme court appointments like Roberts is the only way to go if we want our freedom and property protected.

I would add the R’s need to have a great game plan for job creation that dovetails with HC reform and banking reform.

ray on January 25, 2010 at 11:27 AM

The recent court decision has greatly upset the entire country. That’s the conservative agenda.

Let me remind you, a liberal court did exactly the same with Roe vs. Wade, and we’re STILL talking about it. LOL*

It’s not always so great to “win.”

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

That’s funny. It would be wise for Obama to use that joke in his SOTU speech.

WashJeff on January 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM

At least Biden, the younger, isn’t totally stupid. He took the low road and his political career remains intact. The alternative? No so much. Maybe Biden, the elder, might consider running for that Senate seat? Ya think?

GoldenEagle4444 on January 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM

The game is called “Hot Potato”, which is kind’a the opposite of musical chairs.

RalphyBoy on January 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

OmahaConservative:Nice,sums it up,haha!:)

canopfor on January 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Another issue Beau has to deal with at home is that we have a pediatrician in the beach resort area who has recently been arrested for sexually molesting up to 100 young girls over the past 10 or 15 years. It appears that everybody knew it — other doctors, the police, etc. — and some complaints were filed but the guy was never arrested and prosecuted. So, this is a big huge blot of the state government right now, including the attorney general’s office.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM

I had almost forgotten about that. I know people affect by that monster – that was a huge travesty right there.

Anna on January 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM

You can safely bet this decision has everything to do with what’s good for Biden and very little if anything to do with looking out for the citizens of DE. Yes, I’m sceptical of almost all politicians motives.

scalleywag on January 25, 2010 at 11:36 AM

That’s too bad. And he is so clean and articulate too.

Guardian on January 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM

That’s too bad. And he is so clean and articulate too.

Guardian on January 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

scalleywag on January 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Another issue Beau has to deal with at home is that we have a pediatrician in the beach resort area who has recently been arrested for sexually molesting up to 100 young girls over the past 10 or 15 years. It appears that everybody knew it — other doctors, the police, etc. — and some complaints were filed but the guy was never arrested and prosecuted. So, this is a big huge blot of the state government right now, including the attorney general’s office.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM

This is the “big case” he is talking about. I don’t think anyone is blaming Biden or the AG’s office for this happening, but certainly eyebrows could have been raised had he walked away from a case of this magnitude to run for the Senate.

rockmom on January 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM

You guys are exactly right. Reportedly, that doctor had been molesting children as young as 2 months. This case has fallen through the cracks for years and the whole state is in an uproar about it. I think Beau is hoping to “come to the rescue” and come out looking like the hero on this one.

Nonetheless, I think he would have been elected here anyway. Delaware is as blue as it gets, and the voters here are really pretty stupid. They love Joe cause he’s such a handsome devil, and they would happily give “his” senate seat to Beau if given the chance. Regardless of Obama’s agenda.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

The game is called “Hot Potato”, which is kind’a the opposite of musical chairs.

RalphyBoy on January 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM

I think that game is being played by the media, because they are invested in a different way from real people in real life.

I think the rest of us are fed up with “hot potato” tactics, which is why Obama is falling in the polls.

Come on. Be mad at Wall St. and bank bonuses?

I don’t know about you guys, but those leeches are the least of my real problems.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

The recent court decision has greatly upset the entire country. That’s the conservative agenda.

Let me remind you, a liberal court did exactly the same with Roe vs. Wade, and we’re STILL talking about it. LOL*

It’s not always so great to “win.”

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Spending money to communicate our free speech is a protected freedom, whether as individuals or as groups. The supreme court ruled correctly. And the poll showed a significant majority believed groups should be allowed to communicate their opinions regarding politicians and elections, therefore they agreed with the supreme court.

The only thing the poll showed they were against was influence buying, which has nothing to do with the supreme court ruling. Once again freedom protected, and what is illegal is still illegal.

ray on January 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I know I’m just so over all that. Really, aren’t some of you also over all this anger? Aren’t you also ready to see some real compromise and progress?

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM

You mean like No Child Left Behind, Prescriptions for Seniors, Shamnesty,..like that?

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Nonetheless, I think he would have been elected here anyway. Delaware is as blue as it gets, and the voters here are really pretty stupid. They love Joe cause he’s such a handsome devil, and they would happily give “his” senate seat to Beau if given the chance. Regardless of Obama’s agenda.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

I have been trying to tell ‘em that, UB, and they’re not hearing me. John Carney will likely run against Castle, and he stands a dam good chance of beating him. Nobody should be looking at Beau Biden’s decision and think this is a shoo-in for Castle.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM

And for those of you imposing your purity test on Palin?

You now look as rigid as the far left does in attacking her over her hair-do.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Wow so much hatred!

For the record, purity test ranks up there with teabagger as a pejorative. The real issue is parity, not purity. Which means finding moderates willing to work with social and Christian conservatives instead of loathing and ignoring them which has been the status quo with the McCain wing of the GOP.

highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 11:46 AM

I don’t think anyone but the media and Obama’s cronies were deeply upset by this ruling.I know some polls were taken, but don’t think they show upset at all.It all depends on how the question is asked.

sandee on January 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Nonetheless, I think he would have been elected here anyway. Delaware is as blue as it gets, and the voters here are really pretty stupid. They love Joe cause he’s such a handsome devil, and they would happily give “his” senate seat to Beau if given the chance. Regardless of Obama’s agenda.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

I believe Martha Coakley said the same thing in Massachusetts last week. Ed is right there is a reason that Beau isn’t running and it does not have anything to do with wanting to “protect” the children.

Dire Straits on January 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Nobody should be looking at Beau Biden’s decision and think this is a shoo-in for Castle.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM

True but the Mass election sorta punched holes in the idea of family seats in the US Senate and Castle is about the only Republican that is viable in DE.

highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Wow so much hatred!

For the record, purity test ranks up there with teabagger as a pejorative. The real issue is parity, not purity. Which means finding moderates willing to work with social and Christian conservatives instead of loathing and ignoring them which has been the status quo with the McCain wing of the GOP.

highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Gee, I don’t feel hatred. That’s an odd interpretation.

Why would religious groups need government support, anyway? They need some relief from the government attacks on religion, I’d agree.

But getting neutral would fix that promptly.

I don’t see government as having zip to do with Christianity.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM

You mean like No Child Left Behind, Prescriptions for Seniors, Shamnesty,..like that?

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 11:43 AM

You know, to me? These are minor programs. We try them. They work. They don’t work. Whatever. It didn’t kill us to try.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Both of you maybe right. You live there so you know the political wind.

Dire Straits on January 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Spending money to communicate our free speech is a protected freedom, whether as individuals or as groups. The supreme court ruled correctly. And the poll showed a significant majority believed groups should be allowed to communicate their opinions regarding politicians and elections, therefore they agreed with the supreme court.

The only thing the poll showed they were against was influence buying, which has nothing to do with the supreme court ruling. Once again freedom protected, and what is illegal is still illegal.

ray on January 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Well, the issue has been around since the beginning of the republic.

I think the backlash will really stun you for years to come.

But, I also don’t fight personally with Court decisions. They are allowed to do exactly what they did.

It does, however, have political ramifications. And this one will have just that for years to come.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM

That means:

Do offer real HC reform.
Do continue the revision on banking laws. They are, obviously, way out of control.
Do address in a reasonable way the issue of gay rights. You may not want marriage, but don’t block DADT progress. That would be a mistake.
Dial down abortion talk.
Do offer moderate Supreme Court appointments.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM

So in other words, the RINO platform is the way to go Ann?

*sigh*

AsianGirlInTights on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

I believe Martha Coakley said the same thing in Massachusetts last week.

Dire Straits on January 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM

The difference is that Coakley was a relative “unknown.” Biden has strong name recognition going for him, and Joe has been very popular here for 30+ years.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

You know, to me? These are minor programs. We try them. They work. They don’t work. Whatever. It didn’t kill us to try.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM

They are examples of compromise that deepen the deficit, dumb down schoolkids, and harm national security, all for the sake of bipartisanship.

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

The difference is that Coakley was a relative “unknown.” Biden has strong name recognition going for him, and Joe has been very popular here for 30+ years.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Good point. You are right; name recognition means a lot.

Dire Straits on January 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Stand up Beau! Oops.

portlandon on January 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

So in other words, the RINO platform is the way to go Ann?

*sigh*

AsianGirlInTights on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

That’s what Ann “thinks”. *LOL

ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

They are examples of compromise that deepen the deficit, dumb down schoolkids, and harm national security, all for the sake of bipartisanship.

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Well, in the area of education, I come from educators. The biggest factor in education isn’t teachers or schools, it’s parents.

Just a simple example. The biggest predictor if you read as an adult?

Did your parents read. That’s it. It’s just that simple.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

You know, to me? These are minor programs. We try them. They work. They don’t work. Whatever. It didn’t kill us to try.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM

But they just keep going and we still get to keep paying for them.

AsianGirlInTights on January 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Ann, every point you made is a left wing talking point. Thanks for playing.

angryed on January 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

Well, in the area of education, I come from educators. The biggest factor in education isn’t teachers or schools, it’s parents.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

BULL.

Is it parents that allow 30 million illegals into the country who send their kids to public school and overwhelm the system?

Is it parents who spend 0 time teaching about Washington because he was racist, but spend weeks/months on “gay studies” and “enviro studies”?

Is it parents who decided that teaching kids the three Rs was too old fashioned and decided instead on new math where it doesn’t matter if 2+2=5, as long as you feel good about it?

angryed on January 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM

So in other words, the RINO platform is the way to go Ann?

*sigh*

AsianGirlInTights on January 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

I honestly don’t know what RINO means. I am not entirely sure what the difference is between Liberal and Progressive. I am not entirely sure what people mean by these labels.

What I believe is that labels are the cheap way out of discussing issues and solutions, and reaching compromises and figuring out what we want to commit to trying.

Labeling is a just another form of the blame game. It’s dysfunctional.

You want to keep going with that? OK by me.

I don’t really worry alot, because in our system, it really doesn’t matter what people say or talk about. It matters how people vote.

And we each get one.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Ann, every point you made is a left wing talking point. Thanks for playing.

angryed on January 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

You’re lucky I don’t pay attention to such nonsense. I voted McCain/Palin, and I have figured out who I’m going to support now in Texas. Definitely not a liberal.

And I support the latest win. Brown.

If I’m a liberal, honey, you are so dead in future elections.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM

What I believe is that labels are the cheap way out of discussing issues and solutions, and reaching compromises and figuring out what we want to commit to trying.

Labeling is a just another form of the blame game. It’s dysfunctional.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Labels are fundamental to language Ann. How do you talk about anything without labels?

AsianGirlInTights on January 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM

You know, to me? These are minor programs. We try them. They work. They don’t work. Whatever. It didn’t kill us to try.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM

No Child Left Behind does not work. It’s on unfunded mandate on the states. Teaching a test doesn’t educate children – it turns them into mindless parrots.

ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Well, in the area of education, I come from educators.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

I call BS on another part of your so-called “back story”. If you really came from educators, you would hate NCLB.

ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

And I support the latest win. Brown.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Did you support it before it actually happened? I might have missed that because I usually try to skip over all the space you waste here.

AsianGirlInTights on January 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

I don’t see government as having zip to do with Christianity.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Christian conservatives are a voting bloc with a fairly distinct set of values. I realize that there are few Christians in California, let alone individuals who identify their values through their faith but it’s a reality. This group was instrumental of putting GWB above John McCain in the 2000 South Carolina primary and was also instrumental in getting GWB re-elected against John Kerry. Politicians ignore this group at their own peril.

Yet for all that, there is a vocal minority in the McCain wing of the GOP that hates people of faith (unless talking about the rights of Islamic fundamentalist terrorists). They see the future of the GOP based on cutting adrift anybody who does not gravitate in their world and then try picking off so-called moderate Democrats by offering them socialism-lite solutions instead of the key GOP principles of fiscal conservatism and smaller government. Of course, there is no such thing as a moderate Democrat in 2010 since the party is so far left and these people have generally refused to look at alternatives up until last Tuesday (which is why the Dems are scared to death about the November elections).

The GOP got in trouble when too many of these so-called “moderate” traitors joined the ranks and it will only be by massive housecleaning that the party can right itself- starting with booting McCain and putting a real Republican into office.

highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Well, in the area of education, I come from educators. The biggest factor in education isn’t teachers or schools, it’s parents.

Just a simple example. The biggest predictor if you read as an adult?

Did your parents read. That’s it. It’s just that simple.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

My wife and her sister are teachers,..however that is irrelevant. Federal government intervention in education curricula has no record of success, only failure. The compromise and progress through bipartisanship for which you yearn are pipe dreams

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

here’s an article about that sex abuse case in Delaware. absolutely disgusting. from the article:

The police said they had received multiple complaints about the doctor roughly a year ago. “We investigated as far as we could, but there wasn’t enough evidence to go forward with charges,” said Sgt. Walter Newton, a Delaware State Police spokesman.”

and

The police arrested Dr. Bradley on Dec. 16 after the girl’s parents complained. Dr. Bradley was released for one night while the police sought search warrants for his office and home. After obtaining those warrants and conducting the searches, he was arrested again on Friday, Ms. Ryan said.

somebody dropped the ball a year ago (at least). maybe if they had performed these searches back then, a whole year’s worth of abuse could have been prevented. so incredibly tragic.

vermillionsky on January 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM

I can almost guarantee you that there will yet another flip back, within 2 years.

AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM

“…almost guarantee…”? Why not absolutely guarantee? They are both equally valueless given your credibility.

SKYFOX on January 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM

I call BS on another part of your so-called “back story”. If you really came from educators, you would hate NCLB.

ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

I disagree. In the same post Ann says “The biggest factor in education isn’t teachers or schools, it’s parents.”

Educators have been blaming lack of parental involvement for the public school shortcomings for years. If little Timmy can’t read, it can’t possibly be because Ms. Jones is a functional illiterate! Instead the the parents are blamed because they don’t teach the kids at home all the stuff they would be taught at school were the schedule not so full of politically correct crap as part of the socialist indoctrination machine.

highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM

I thought this thread was about Beau Biden, *not* AnninCA.

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

What did Beau Biden do during his tenure in Iraq? Did he have a job that required the use of a flak jacket?

HondaV65 on January 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM

What did Beau Biden do during his tenure in Iraq? Did he have a job that required the use of a flak jacket?

HondaV65 on January 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM

JAG

a capella on January 25, 2010 at 12:49 PM

I thought this thread was about Beau Biden, *not* AnninCA.

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Thank you. Let’s end the “thread hijacking.”

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Good point. You are right; name recognition means a lot.

Dire Straits on January 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

I am inclined to believe that if there was a “kennedy” running in last week’s senate race in Massachusetts, the outcome would have been quite different.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM

highhopes on January 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM

What does that have to do with NCLB? Teachers don’t like it because they get evaluated based on how well the kids do; they teach the test and not the subject; many specialists consider the tests biased and unfair to children who’s native language isn’t English.

But the real problem with the program is that the grading of the schools is based on percentiles – and schools that have children under a certain level get “put on the list”. As long as the score is based on percentiles, there will always be some children below the “average”.

ladyingray on January 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Obviously, the GOP will benefit, but the wins will be very temporary if the agenda is to go back to some nostalgic retro-policy of Reagan.
Independents aren’t into either viewpoint. We’re ready for moving forward.
That means:
Do offer real HC reform.
Do continue the revision on banking laws. They are, obviously, way out of control.
Do address in a reasonable way the issue of gay rights. You may not want marriage, but don’t block DADT progress. That would be a mistake.
Dial down abortion talk.
Do offer moderate Supreme Court appointments.
Continue the partisanship, “We won. Get over it” dialogue?
I can almost guarantee you that there will yet another flip back, within 2 years.
AnninCA on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM

What a joke. You’re basically suggesting that the GOP turns into the Joe Lieberman party. No dice. And, why not embrace a little ‘nostalgic retro-policy of Reagan’ stuff? Some people like lower taxes and a strong national defense, two things that you left out of your gut-the-GOP wishlist.

joejm65 on January 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM

“…almost guarantee…”? Why not absolutely guarantee? They are both equally valueless given your credibility.

SKYFOX on January 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM

…said one Internet Mouth to another.

Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 2:03 PM

So who else is gonna take the French defence as Obamacare goes down? The DemocRATs are politicians at heart, after all, they won’t drown with the ship if they can help it.

Dark-Star on January 25, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Meanwhile, Castle’s Democrat opponent will likely be John Carney, who is a former Delaware Lieutenant Governor but who did NOT get the party nod for the gubernatorial primary.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Carneys. Small hands. Smell like cabbage.

/Austin Powers off

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Carneys. Small hands. Smell like cabbage.

/Austin Powers off

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM

One of the news stories today mentioned Chris Coons as a possible Dem candidate. I thought — the guy has increased property taxes 34% in two years — that’ll go over well.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM

One of the news stories today mentioned Chris Coons as a possible Dem candidate. I thought — the guy has increased property taxes 34% in two years — that’ll go over well.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM

Yeah, he’s toast if his opponents use that against him in campaign ads. And I hope they do.

Who was the woman candidate (GOP) who ran in 2008? Christine something…… Young, good looking, principled. I don’t even remember which office it was that she was seeking. She had been on FOX news a couple of times, as I recall, and she did fairly well at the polls. I hope to see her again during this election year.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 2:44 PM

Who was the woman candidate (GOP) who ran in 2008? Christine something…… Young, good looking, principled. I don’t even remember which office it was that she was seeking. She had been on FOX news a couple of times, as I recall, and she did fairly well at the polls. I hope to see her again during this election year.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 2:44 PM

O’Donnell. She didn’t win a primary and then ran as an independent, which irritated people. Something like that.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 3:19 PM

If only he had gotten some plugs, ran around saying “Scranton” any change he got, and making regular racial statements, he’d be well on his way to his own VP run.

RightWinged on January 25, 2010 at 3:41 PM

If only he had gotten some plugs, ran around saying “Scranton” any change he got, and making regular racial statements, he’d be well on his way to his own VP run.

RightWinged on January 25, 2010 at 3:41 PM

“Only Nixon could go to China” – ancient Klingon proverb

And only Joe could pull off the “I’m from Scranton” scam. He was, after all, born there. Pretty sure Beau was born here in Delaware.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM

O’Donnell. She didn’t win a primary and then ran as an independent, which irritated people. Something like that.

DaydreamBeliever on January 25, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Too bad. Lieberman was able to run as an independent, and it worked for him. Then again, he was an incumbent.

UltimateBob on January 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM

I don’t think we’ll be hearing much from his old man after 2014 either. Maybe he’ll drown himself in Cactus Jack’s ‘bucket of warm spit’ VP job.

kens on January 25, 2010 at 4:44 PM