WH fumbling jobs, ObamaCare messages

posted at 2:07 pm on January 24, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The Obama administration sent out its surrogates to the Sunday news shows to argue for the ObamaCare bill that turned Massachusetts red — and to argue that their action had saved a lot of jobs.  The problem with this new offensive was that none of them could agree on just how many jobs they’d “saved or created.”  In three separate appearances, Obama administration officials offered three different numbers, and Republicans caught them at it:

Axelrod, on CNN’s State of the Union: “But understand that, in this recession that began at the beginning of 2007, we’ve lost 7 million jobs. Now, the Recovery Act the president passed has created more than — or saved more than 2 million jobs. But against 7 million, you know, that — that is — it is cold comfort to those who still are looking.”

Jarrett, on NBC’s Meet the Press: “The Recovery Act saved thousands and thousands of jobs. There are schoolteachers and firemen and— and— teachers all across our country, policemen, who have jobs today because of that recovery act. We’re investing in infrastructure. We’re investing in public education so that our kids can compete going forth into the next— generation.”

Gibbs, on “Fox News Sunday”: “Well, chris, let’s take for instance the example you just used of the stimulus package. We had four quarters of economic regression in terms of growth, right? Just last quarter, we finally saw the first positive economic job growth in more than a year. Llargely as a result of the recovery plan that’s put money back into our economy, that saved or created 1.5 million jobs.”

Oddly enough, Jarret probably has the number correct, but not the job types.  The block grants in Porkulus allowed states to paper over budget gaps that should have prompted legislatures to curtail spending, which would have eliminated thousands and thousands of positions in various bureaucracies.  The police officers, firefighters, and teachers would have been the last jobs at risk, as reporting across the country on Porkulus fables showed.

Meanwhile, David Axelrod insisted that ObamaCare needs to pass in order to address the “national emergency”:

“The Republican strategy in the Senate is to turn 50 into 60, in other words no longer do you need a majority to carry the day in the Senate. You need 60 votes for everything because the Republicans are filibustering every single bill,” he said. “We need to call that out, and they need to explain to the American people whether throwing a wrench into everything at a time of national emergency is the appropriate policy. They want to win and election and take us back to the policies that got us into this mess in the first place.”

The answer to Massachusetts, he said, is not “to be timid.”

“If we don’t move forward and we don’t produce something, the American people are going to believe the caricature that was drawn by the Republicans and the health insurance industry. I think that’s a terrible mistake,” Axelrod said.

“Pass the bill and when people realize that they have new power relative to their insurance companies, when they realize if they’re a senior citizen they’ve got new coverage on prescription drugs, no more huge doughnut hole, when people realize there’s a cap on their out of pocket expenses, let the proponents of health insurance reform say ‘No, we want to take that away from you.’ That would be good politics.”

David Plouffe makes essentially the same argument in today’s Washington Post — that voters have been misled into believing that a massive government intrusion into the health-care sector will be a disaster.  Plouffe manages to call voters stupid and smart in the same column, which is rather amazing even for this administration’s political campaigning:

Pass a meaningful health insurance reform package without delay. Americans’ health and our nation’s long-term fiscal health depend on it. I know that the short-term politics are bad. It’s a good plan that’s become a demonized caricature. But politically speaking, if we do not pass it, the GOP will continue attacking the plan as if we did anyway, and voters will have no ability to measure its upside. If we do pass it, dozens of protections and benefits take effect this year. Parents won’t have to worry their children will be denied coverage just because they have a preexisting condition. Workers won’t have to worry that their coverage will be dropped because they get sick. Seniors will feel relief from prescription costs. Only if the plan becomes law will the American people see that all the scary things Sarah Palin and others have predicted — such as the so-called death panels — were baseless. We own the bill and the health-care votes. We need to get some of the upside. (P.S.: Health care is a jobs creator.)

And in the very next paragraph:

We need to show that we not just are focused on jobs but also create them. Even without a difficult fiscal situation, the government can have only so much direct impact on job creation, on top of the millions of jobs created by the president’s early efforts to restart the economy. There are some terrific ideas that we can implement, from tax credits for small businesses to more incentives for green jobs, but full recovery will happen only when the private sector begins hiring in earnest. That’s why Democrats must create a strong foundation for long-term growth by addressing health care, energy and education reform. We must also show real leadership by passing some politically difficult measures to help stabilize the economy in the short term. Voters are always smarter than they are given credit for. We need to make our case on the economy and jobs — and yes, we can remind voters where Republican policies led us — and if we do, without apology and with force, it will have impact.

Only when they agree with David Plouffe, apparently.  And this is just plain Orwellian:

During the campaign, who will be whispering in Republican ears? Watching GOP leaders talking about health care the past few days, it was easy to imagine lobbyists and big health insurance executives leaning over their shoulders, urging death to health insurance reform.

You mean like they did with Democrats to get a federal mandate to buy their insurance?  Or when the unions got an exemption from the taxes that will get imposed on everyone else’s Cadillac tax?  That particular accusation takes a truckload of chutzpah.

Besides, the White House once again misreads what people see as the national emergency.  It isn’t the health-care system that wins support even from the majority of the uninsured — it’s the collapse of the job market.  The health-care sector isn’t going to replace the 3.4 million jobs lost in the first year of the Obama administration.  Voters in Massachusetts didn’t get angry because Congress hadn’t yet passed ObamaCare; they specifically sent the message that they wanted it dumped and to have Congress focus on the true national emergency.  And Barack Obama signaled loud and clear today that he cares a lot more about pushing his radical agenda for government intervention than in listening to the voters.

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deedtrader on January 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM

I like it! The more people that understand the game …..the more people …..won’t get fooled again :)

redridinghood on January 24, 2010 at 3:12 PM

AnninCa=Ellie Light

dragondrop on January 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM

That’s honestly the way it seems but that is politically (and in terms of general common sense) assinine.

They may want to, okey-doke, but is Congress going to be more or less likely now to throw itself into the volcano for a POTUS that’s circling the toilet bowl faster and faster these days……?

JoeinTX on January 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Good point but you must consider that the house and the senate have two of the most radical leaders we will probaly ever see. Nan and Harry will DO ANYTHING to get this moonbat agenda. Obie, Nancy and Harry are giving the middle finger to all the moderates of the Democratic Party for this moonbat agenda and like I said are in turn destroying the Democratic Party for Generations. I am proud of them.

Dire Straits on January 24, 2010 at 3:14 PM

Speaking of being out there, NY Times Theatre Critic Frankie Rich has this to day today

It was not a referendum on Barack Obama, who in every poll remains one of the most popular politicians in America. It was not a rejection of universal health care, which Massachusetts mandated (with Scott Brown’s State Senate vote) in 2006. It was not a harbinger of a resurgent G.O.P., whose numbers remain in the toilet. Brown had the good sense not to identify himself as a Republican in either his campaign advertising or his victory speech.

OK, Frankie. If you say so!

Del Dolemonte on January 24, 2010 at 3:15 PM

I miss Bleeds Blue.

OmahaConservative on January 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Is your brain on vacation, Ann?

HornetSting on January 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM

This is normal. Just wait till she goes into overdrive.

Dire Straits on January 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM

There is nothing absurd about a conclusion that Ojesus is well-versed in the Cloward-Piven strategy and is willing to bring America to its knees in order to institute the kind of structural change that he believes in.

hillbillyjim on January 24, 2010 at 3:17 PM

I think Mr. President is the first in our nation’s history to destroy his credibility and lose the public’s trust in a matter of months. That’s unprecedented. Now he’s going to go on the campaign trail again to try and get it back? Good luck with that.

scalleywag on January 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Is your brain on vacation, Ann?

HornetSting on January 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM
This is normal. Just wait till she goes into overdrive.

Dire Straits on January 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Oh, I know. Didn’t want to go Defcon 1 on her.
This is the ‘kinder, gentler HornetSting’. :)

HornetSting on January 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM

To what end Neuro? Is his goal to detroy simply for the resulting carnage as “revenge” or is to create an environment when revenge is exacted by control over time? I won’t argue that many of Obama’s actions have worked to weaken American economically, but his policies only make sense in the context that there someone left to pick up the pieces and redistribute what’s left. That would be him of course.

I don’t think he cares about what’s left – if anything. The Precedent, as far as I see, sees himself as the avenging angel of the third world. He is driven by the same motivation that drove Hannibal – but without any of the talent. It’s just pure hate, mostly arising out of jealousy and embarrassment at his own failings (and those of the third world societies he thinks he’s representing – remember that he was all about calling himself a “citizen of the world” which was a wink and a nod about this point).

To me, The PRecedetn is a political suicide bomber on his run and he has no concern for what is left after him. He only hopes that there is as much chaos in his wake as he can gin up, and as little wealth left here as possible. The PRecedetn would be happiest if the US just collapsed and disappeared, which is still likely to happen.

Fundamentally, his actions are irrational if his stated goals are taken at face value. His policies make no sense if the end goal is to increase economic activity; they make perfect sense if the goal is to destroy the US economically thus leading to further govt. intrusion and ultimate control. Dangerous times folks.

volnation on January 24, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Yes, this is a definite possibility, but I think this attitude is more that of the useful idiots around The Precedent. The Precedent, himself, is wearing a bomb vest and having some of the useful idiots drive him to the mall, where they think he’s just going to rob the place, not blow it up.

That’s how I see it all.

neurosculptor on January 24, 2010 at 3:19 PM

It’s so great to see the O-machine stuck in the same drive.

In fact, it’s truly schadenfreudig!

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2010 at 3:19 PM

In America, a job lost every 10 seconds, everyday, 24 hours a day. Thanks Barry!

Mojave Mark on January 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM

To what end Neuro? Is his goal to detroy simply for the resulting carnage as “revenge” or is to create an environment when revenge is exacted by control over time? I won’t argue that many of Obama’s actions have worked to weaken American economically, but his policies only make sense in the context that there someone left to pick up the pieces and redistribute what’s left.
volnation on January 24, 2010 at 3:10 PM

See 1.) above

Didn’t George Soros try this in europe?
Hasn’t he been to the Whitehouse?

I would like to know who was behind the near collapse in Sept., Oct. 08.
The draw down of hundreds of Billions from the banks!
Few people have this kind of wealth or power!

dhunter on January 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Why in the world would you arrive at that conclusion?

Seriously, that’s absurd.

AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Because that is the only way to take over. Real Saul Alinksy. It’s not a joke. Real Cloward-Piven. These are the people in charge. That is their goal.

uknowmorethanme on January 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Axelrod, Jarret, Gibbs and Plouffe can we can this quadrupling down of stupid.

chemman on January 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM

chemman on January 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM

2nd can = call.

chemman on January 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM

But, seriously, he’s not into destroying the US. That’s way out there. He is certainly following a liberal path, trying to expand services to the most people,etc.

AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM

This is Obama’s greatest weapon against his opposition and that is simple disbelief. It is unfathomable to most Americans that a duly elected President would intentionally harm the electorate. And it’s that’s disbelief that could allow it to happen.

volnation on January 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Q – what was the best part of “Cash for Clunkers?”

A – it got rid of 95% of all Obama bumper stickers.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Personally, I think we should all get accounts at the Daily Kos and Huffinhton Post, and urge all the nutroots to continue their push for health care, cap and trade, and education reform. Encourage them all to lead the left off a cliff, and hopefully this will all die for another 30 or so years.

notanobot on January 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM

It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s happening right in front of your eyes.

Why do you think we were screaming and yelling about Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright?

These are his advisors. These are his mentors.

uknowmorethanme on January 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Give the Obama Propaganda Dept a solid B+

But the boy king gets a failing grade

bluegrass on January 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Soon, maybe even before the state of the union, a D governor will switch to the Rs.

Kathleen Parker is the source of these news.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM

This should have been Chris Wallace’s response to Robert Gibbs.

Dire Straits on January 24, 2010 at 3:27 PM

National Emergency?

Dr Evil on January 24, 2010 at 3:27 PM

The U.S. American people are on to these goons’ shenanigans. Good thing they woke up soon enough. It doesn’t matter what they will say btw. now and Nov. 2010/2012.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2010 at 3:27 PM

And the band played on…and on…and on…

AubieJon on January 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM

And the water began to rise higher & higher on the side of the ship & the deck chairs began to slide?

It’s still cool to Hope, right?

PalmettoPatriot on January 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM

These people are not stupid. They’re not in the least interested in governing from the center. They are out to push America as far and hard left as they possibly can before the midterms rob them of their ability to legislate on the left. And the people be damned, it would seem.

ProfessorMiao on January 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM

saved or created jobs=division by zero…It is a nonsensical statement made by the criminally stupid and given a free pass by the state run media…Obama just keeps digging, his tiny little ego has been piqued, someone please give the man a passifier…

Nozzle on January 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM

AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Ideas have consequences Ann. Obama spent most of his formative years being schooled in ideologies that aren’t mainstream American. Elementary School in Indonesia, High School being tutor by Frank Wright adult years being schooled in Black Liberation Theology. He will on necessity approach his decision making from these ideas.

chemman on January 24, 2010 at 3:30 PM

I personally don’t like all this switchin crap.
Its’ like the Blue Dogs lyin their asses off to get elected and then riding the harry and nancy train all the way to the station.

The liars said what would get them elected then voted for the most radical adgenda evah. Fine if they want to switch but they should be primaried out we are just being infiltrated if this is allowed.
Its not good.

dhunter on January 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM

When it comes to finally cutting government jobs the essential positions are always the first to go. Although this seems to be counter-intuitive to any rational person, there is a reason to this madness.

To bureaucrats, reducing government is poison. So, to minimize the pain they cut meat and bone to create an uproar from the people and so preserve the fat and allow them to raise taxes in lieu of cuts.

The mere threat of laying off cops, fire fighters and teachers is sometimes sufficient for the purpose. When do you ever see staff positions on the chopping block? DMV lay-offs? Welfare workers?

walkingboss on January 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM

The U.S. American people are on to these goons’ shenanigans. Good thing they woke up soon enough. It doesn’t matter what they will say btw. now and Nov. 2010/2012.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2010 at 3:27 PM

I hope it was soon enough. An enormous amount of damage to our future has already been done, especially if the remainder of Porkulus can’t be undone. The attack on banks and other financial institutions is a very dangerous ploy as well.

I fully expect to see the EPA attempt to hamstring the oil, coal, and other energy industries if some form of cap and trade isn’t passed. This will further erode our economy and push unemployment ever higher.

I hope a brigade of conservative lawyers is ready to push back, and the Supremes put a much-needed leash on Nixon’s Folly, the EPA.

hillbillyjim on January 24, 2010 at 3:40 PM

The mere threat of laying off cops, fire fighters and teachers is sometimes sufficient for the purpose. When do you ever see staff positions on the chopping block? DMV lay-offs? Welfare workers?

walkingboss on January 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Never see it…Local municipalities here in Charleston, SC are way way overstaffed…I live in a small town of about 40K where nothing happens…Almost no violent crime or any crime. Yet, we have cops and firemen galore. All of these folks have nice salaries, healthcare, retirment plans and new government vehicles. The costs are enormous and in my view wasteful spending that will come back to haunt the town as they try to keep paying for all of them. Goverment at all levels need to roll back spending to 1990s levels because that is where revenue is going. This last decade was merely an orgy of spending borrowed money. The income was not real and now its gone…

Nozzle on January 24, 2010 at 3:42 PM

It’s now third and long for these guys. Scotty B ran one back for a touchdown and they are hopelessly disabled with their backs to our goal line. Their next play occurs with the SOTU unless they’re forced to run another play between now and then.

Will Ellie Light and Mark Spivey be in attendance at the SOTU?

ted c on January 24, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Maybe if Obama wishes hard enough.

And Axelrod, and Plouffe, et al,.

If wishes were horses…

coldwarrior on January 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM

The talking heads forgot to introduce the new Tax Man.

yoda on January 24, 2010 at 3:55 PM

We the people of the United States owe Scott Brown’s sup porters a huge debt of gratitude. They didn’t merely elect a senator. They ripped the façade off the Obama presidency.
Just as Dorothy and Toto exposed the ordinary man behind the curtain in “The Wizard of Oz,” the voters in Massachusetts revealed that, in this White House, there is no there there.

It’s all smoke and mirrors, bells and whistles, held together with glib talk, Chicago politics and an audacious sense of entitlement.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2010 at 3:56 PM

And Barack Obama signaled loud and clear today that he cares a lot more about pushing his radical agenda for government intervention than in listening to the voters.

But…but…he won, and we’re all socialists now, right?

SKYFOX on January 24, 2010 at 4:02 PM

This is the ‘kinder, gentler HornetSting’. :)

HornetSting on January 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Yeah, Riiiight!

thomasaur on January 24, 2010 at 4:07 PM

when will these idiots learn the govt doesn’t create jobs!

One way only to create jobs cut taxes across the board. Bring back Reagan’s Investment Tax Cut to american companies

xler8bmw on January 24, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Related parody: Obama Administration Rocked by Congressional Testimony of Three Year-Old Girl http://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/01/obama-administration-rocked-by.html

Mervis Winter on January 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM

when will these idiots learn the govt doesn’t create jobs!

These idiots don’t want to create jobs. They WANT to destroy everything that makes this country great. It’s difficult to believe that an American president would want to actually cause harm to the electorate. But Odamna isn’t like anyone who has come before. And he wants chaos.

Crusader Rabbit on January 24, 2010 at 4:24 PM

“Besides, the White House once again misreads what people see as the national emergency”

True, but the White House sees a good economy as an even bigger national emergency, because nobody would even begin to entertain their insame proposals if the economy was perculating.

notagool on January 24, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Crusader Rabbit on January 24, 2010 at 4:24 PM

No disagreement here. i just found a new job after being out a year in Feb but, not an american company it is out of the UK

xler8bmw on January 24, 2010 at 4:27 PM

But understand that, in this recession that began at the beginning of 2007, we’ve lost 7 million jobs.

Coincidentally, just when the Dems took over both houses of Congress. Hmmmmm…..

OWN IT MORONS!

mrsmwp on January 24, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Axelrod was also on NBC this morning. I was appalled when he said the people will know what’s in the bill when it’s passed, and signed. Not beforehand. I couldn’t help but feel that was, what he thought his brilliance going over the heads of average citizens, not being able to get what he was saying. As if he’s so slick. Well I caught it Mr.Axelrod, and that was the worst thing you could have said. If I caught it, you can sure as hell bet millions of others caught it too.

capejasmine on January 24, 2010 at 4:30 PM

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/end_of_cowardly_lyin_mRWfJbYLRlOqRxirNUoCxO

WOW!

dhunter on January 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Excellent!
He’s melting … He’s melting.

redridinghood on January 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Humpty Dumpty has fallen and all the king’s horses and all the king’s won’t put Humpty Dumpty together again.

Dhuka on January 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Hope this isn’t a duplication from page 1:

WalMart just announced they are cutting 10,000 jobs from their Sam’s Club group (total employees for Sam’s Club- 100,000, so that’s 10%).

That should really help the jobs saved/created totals for the SOTU speech.

SPIN TIME!

Yoop on January 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM

” At the center is a young and talented celebrity whose worldview, we now know, is an incoherent jumble of poses and big-government instincts. His self-aggrandizing ambition exceeds his ability by so much that he is making a mess of everything he touches.”

Big Government instincts maybe.
Destruction of these United States and her wealth and wealth creators…Definetly!

dhunter on January 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM

I hope, after the November election, we can put one myth to rest that Obama is still”popular”. I don’t care what the polls say, the difference between popular and unpopular is race, in this particular case. I am positive that, when asked what you think of Obama personally, most White people fell that, if they criticize him too much, they’ll be accused of being racist so, as a consequence, they always answer affirmatively. If this were Hillary or Joe Biden, the approval ratings would be on the floor.

bflat879 on January 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM

In three separate appearances, Obama administration officials offered three different numbers, and Republicans caught them at it:

Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!
- Sir Walter Scott

Good liars give details; great ones don’t.

MB4 on January 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM

I watched The Omen last night and there was a line which seemed appropriate:

There is a great evil coming unto us and it must be destroyed for it would devour our very souls.”

or something like that!

Dhuka on January 24, 2010 at 5:02 PM

“You don’t appreciate what we’ve done for you” is the new meme and the minions have their marching orders. I just saw a 9 person CNN panel arguing heatedly over whether the stimulus plan was “awesome”, “hella awesome”, or “the most awesomest thing ever”.
They’ll try and frame the debate to put conservatives back on the defense like they have always done… but this time I don’t think it will work. We’ll see.

joewm315 on January 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Humpty Dumpty has fallen and all the king’s horses and all the king’s won’t put Humpty Dumpty together again.

Dhuka on January 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Bumpty Odumpty has acted as his true empty self in too many an unthinking judgment call
Bumpty Odumpty has had many a great fall
All the tyrant’s Axelrods and all the tyrant’s Rahm con men
Won’t be able to put Bumpty Odumpty’s mask back on again

MB4 on January 24, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Axelrod:
going to believe the caricature that was drawn by the Republicans and the health insurance industry.

Plouffe:
It’s a good plan that’s become a demonized caricature

New Drinking word for SOTU? Caricature

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 24, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Gibbs also used the word “caricature” in connection with the health care plan. They must have had a pow-wow before Sunday showtime.

ziggyville on January 24, 2010 at 5:11 PM

redridinghood on January 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM

I read it, and wow! A very accurate piece though. It’s everything we’ve been thinking, and saying for months now. What’s the circulation of the NY Post? LOL

capejasmine on January 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM

“You don’t appreciate what we’ve done for you” is the new meme and the minions have their marching orders. I just saw a 9 person CNN panel arguing heatedly over whether the stimulus plan was “awesome”, “hella awesome”, or “the most awesomest thing ever”.

joewm315 on January 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Tiger Woods should try this line.

MB4 on January 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Oddly enough, Jarret probably has the number correct, but not the job types. The block grants in Porkulus allowed states to paper over budget gaps that should have prompted legislatures to curtail spending, which would have eliminated thousands and thousands of positions in various bureaucracies. The police officers, firefighters, and teachers would have been the last jobs at risk, as reporting across the country on Porkulus fables showed.

What a missed opportunity. All of those fat a**, paper-shuffling AFSCME union members were spared by Obama and, hence, ready, willing, and able to campaign and vote for Dems and Obama the next time around.

BuckeyeSam on January 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM

How can you create something you have never had or comprehend? Obama has surrounded himself with elitests who have never been part of the work force or ran a business.
Like asking a carpenter to build a house when he has never seen wood.

volsense on January 24, 2010 at 5:26 PM

Gibbs, on “Fox News Sunday”: “Well, chris, let’s take for instance the example you just used of the stimulus package. We had four quarters of economic regression in terms of growth, right? Just last quarter, we finally saw the first positive economic job growth in more than a year. Llargely as a result of the recovery plan that’s put money back into our economy, that saved or created 1.5 million jobs.”

First, who in the h*** says “We had four quarters of economic regression in terms of growth”? WTF?

Second, and far more important, Gibbs is patting the back of Obama for taking OUR money and putting it “back into our economy.” Why didn’t those idiots leave the money in taxpayers’ hand in the first place?

Second,

BuckeyeSam on January 24, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Remember Zero’s campaign threat, trotted out in Philly, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Once again, the real agenda of the Chicago Combine’s White House was clearly stated. I was appalled by this statement, mainly because Chicago’s murder rate was spiking at the same time, but then I’m not one of the really smart people. Barry and his mouthpieces are truly evil and are fully prepared to use any and every underhanded trick to accomplish their common destinies. Thinking that they are just incompetent clowns might well lead to grievous and fatal results. Tone deaf? Misreading the American people? I think not. Their combined past histories indicate otherwise.

MayorDaley on January 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM

I say we don’t wait until November to send them the next message. Let’s send it in the Illinois primary race for Senate. Kick Kirk to the curb and get Patrick Hughes in there.

red131 on January 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM

First, who in the h*** says “We had four quarters of economic regression in terms of growth”? WTF?

BuckeyeSam on January 24, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Evidently, English is not Gibbels’ native language. At least Gibbels knows how to use the indefinite article correctly, which is more than can be said for The Precedent.

neurosculptor on January 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM

There’s only one national emergency and it isn’t jobs, or even the economy in general. Those are effects. The national emergency is a Federal Government (and most of the States, too) that disdains and curtails individual freedom in every way possible.

JDPerren on January 24, 2010 at 6:30 PM

“The police officers, firefighters, and teachers would have been the last jobs at risk, as reporting across the country on Porkulus fables showed.”

Ahem, while logically this statement would be true, in the reality of a Cloward/Piven Administration these are the first people shown the door with pink-slips in hand.

In any Progressively held state forced to curtail spending they let go of only those few that actually do anything for the public so to impress on people that any cutbacks what-so-ever will have immediate detrimental effects. Emergency services and teachers are have the most relevence to the public and they along with the “early release” prison programs are thge threat they use to confiscate ever more tax-payer money.

At-absolutely-no-time will you ever see school administrators or state tax collectors releived of their employment. Its how Progressives continually blackmail the electorate and constantly expand the size, scope & roll of Gov’t.

Archimedes on January 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM

More green shoot growth…

Wal-Mart cutting 10,000 jobs at Sam’s Club.

MB4 on January 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM

This is Obama’s greatest weapon against his opposition and that is simple disbelief. It is unfathomable to most Americans that a duly elected President would intentionally harm the electorate. And it’s that’s disbelief that could allow it to happen.

volnation on January 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM

The fine point on this is that Obama (and the rest of the people he associates with, with the possible exception of Ayers) are believers. They believe they are doing the best thing, not realizing that their platform was designed by others to be destructive.

Count to 10 on January 24, 2010 at 7:22 PM

At least they shoulda coulda woulda coordinate talking points.

I guess in their glass bubble they probably thought no one would watch two shows.

tarpon on January 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM

I feel like we are living in 1984.

farright on January 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Zero is the national emergency.

Maquis on January 24, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Zero is the national emergency embarrassment.

FIFM

Maquis on January 24, 2010 at 7:34 PM

hillbillyjim on January 24, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Foreclosure workshop draws angry, frustrated homeowners
By PETER SCHELDEN
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
Published: Jan. 24, 2010
Updated: 1:50 a.m.

More people attended than organizers expected.

“I was a little bit unprepared for the numbers this morning,” said San Juan Capistrano Mayor Lon Uso.

About 500 people attended two sessions of a foreclosure-prevention workshop with loan counselors and bank representatives Saturday at the city’s Community Center, according to HomeOwnership Center director Clemente Mojica. A long line stretched around the center as homeowners checked in.

The mayor called it a sign of the times.

“Just a couple years ago, you’d be lucky to see one or two foreclosures,” Uso said. “Now there’s three or four pages” in the newspapers.

MB4 on January 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM

‘“If we don’t move forward and we don’t produce something, the American people are going to believe the caricature that was drawn by the Republicans and the health insurance industry. I think that’s a terrible mistake,” Axelrod said.’

The level of contempt Barry and his minions have for the American people is amazing. They should just come out and say, “look, average Americans are stupid and need to be told what to do by their betters, AKA us.”

WarEagle01 on January 24, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Saving teacher jobs and firemen’s jobs is all well and good, but those are government jobs. What about private sector jobs?

Sheerq on January 24, 2010 at 10:44 PM

You simply can’t defend a bad policy decision. Bush couldn’t defend WMD. Obama can’t defend the stimulus bill.

AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:14 PM

No, Bush didn’t defend WMD. It wasn’t that he couldn’t. It probably had more to do with seeing the argument as irrelevant once troops were committed, and trying to get his opponents to support the troops which were already there. Not that the gesture seemed to help get any support.

But regardless, because he didn’t, he let people get away with pretending that Saddam had no WMD’s, and that falsehood keeps getting repeated over and over again as if it were a fact beyond dispute.

But Saddam used chemical weapons on Iran and on the Kurds, so the claim that he had none is bizarrely brainless, even while widely accepted.

There Goes The Neighborhood on January 24, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Can someone explain to me how health care is a “national emergency”? Anyone can go to the ER and get treated. They get the same level of care regardless of their ability to pay – there are signs ALL OVER hospitals stating this. They may leave with a bill, but the payments aren’t enforced or they’re allowed to repay it slowly over time, a discount (substantial in some cases) being given if they pay it off quickly.

How does their ability to pay or lack thereof equal a national emergency? Isn’t something like, oh, what’s going on in Haiti a national emergency? Getting a big bill because you don’t have insurance sort of pales in comparison. Or as the saying goes “Your lack of planning doesn’t equal my emergency.”

citrus on January 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Again, saving a job is NOT the equivalent to creating a job.

pjean on January 24, 2010 at 11:20 PM

Obama is a racist, anti-American Marxist, bent on destroying this country.

ta da!

Easy.

justltl on January 24, 2010 at 11:38 PM

What does he have to do for people to see this? Wear a Karl Marx wig while pissing on the flag and wiping his azz on the Constitution as Michelle, Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers dance a Troika on the stage behind him?

justltl on January 24, 2010 at 11:58 PM

Now that I think of it, that will probably be his SOTU address come 2012.

justltl on January 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Can anyone picture Obama exerting such take-no-prisoners leadership to challenge those who threaten our own economic recovery and stability at a time of deep recession and war?

Of course they can’t .. really. Every time Obama takes on Wall Street, the market drops … and millions of 401(k) accounts see the difference, immediately. This past week, Obama drove the market down 5% in three days, quite an accomplishment. A temper tantrum in the SOTU will probably repeat that feat.

J_Crater on January 25, 2010 at 12:21 AM

Obowma has SAVED OR CREATED 10% UNEMPLOYMENT.

Bush unemployment high 5%.
Obowma unemployment high 10.3%.

For Obowma to be the smartest man on the planet he sure is dumb.

Fix the economy stupid.

dthorny on January 25, 2010 at 3:38 AM

You simply can’t defend a bad policy decision. Bush couldn’t defend WMD. Obama can’t defend the stimulus bill.

AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:14 PM
No, Bush didn’t defend WMD. It wasn’t that he couldn’t. It probably had more to do with seeing the argument as irrelevant once troops were committed, and trying to get his opponents to support the troops which were already there. Not that the gesture seemed to help get any support.

But regardless, because he didn’t, he let people get away with pretending that Saddam had no WMD’s, and that falsehood keeps getting repeated over and over again as if it were a fact beyond dispute.

But Saddam used chemical weapons on Iran and on the Kurds, so the claim that he had none is bizarrely brainless, even while widely accepted.

There Goes The Neighborhood on January 24, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Again, here are the facts thst there were WMD in Iraq:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/about_that_500_tons_of_yellow.html

dthorny on January 25, 2010 at 3:44 AM

Hey Obama,

You Democrats could have saved over 8 million jobs, without stimulus cash- by voting Republican.

Lincoln Cadillac on January 25, 2010 at 7:31 AM

In line with the topic. I’ve been posting here for a couple of years now. And I don’;t mean to spam. But you, my Hot Air buds need to see this. SHort rock vid that absolutely kicks.

NO RULES FOR RADICALS

deedtrader on January 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM

“absolutely kicks” – An understatement.

diogenes on January 25, 2010 at 8:01 AM

More green shoot growth…

Wal-Mart cutting 10,000 jobs at Sam’s Club.

MB4 on January 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Here’s the BBC article on this.

It looks like the jobs (11,200 according to the BBC) are exclusively those demo people you see in the aisles, and aren’t being cut so much as outsourced to a company named “Shopper Events”.

As is said in the article,

Shopper Events plans to hire “roughly the same number of people” being cut, and Sam’s workers are invited to apply for those positions, he said.

My company did the same with its janitorial staff a few years back — solely to save money. The janitors were rehired in place at a lower wage and fewer benefits by the cleaning services company Servicon,

The BBC article does mention the real job losses to WalMart/Sam’s Club in the past month — 1,500 job losses as WalMart closed 10 underperforming Sam’s Club locations.

unclesmrgol on January 25, 2010 at 8:20 AM

But, seriously, he’s not into destroying the US. That’s way out there. He is certainly following a liberal path, trying to expand services to the most people,etc.
AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Ann I don’t know how old you are, but I grew up with this group of Communists. It is no secret what the end game is. If the whole systems collapses, then they will usher in a new system where money has no meaning and all will be equal. All will be paid in tokens that will be stored on a chip in your hand. A massive main frame computer will do all checks and balance on economy and determined where resources will go. You will get credit for time you work, but every one will be paid same. No private property will be allowed. Communes will replace private homes. They know it is impossible to expand services to everyone with present system. They want to push it to destruction as soon as possible. Like I said it is no secret. They have written about it for years. They are all ways hoping the collapse or disaster comes so they can take over for the good of us all. They know the majority of people will not go along with this, they think they know better than us and need to do this for our own good. Do a little research it has always been clear Obama is a communist. His words are lies.
Ann I have been reading you and your a very nice person and think the best of people. I was like you for many years, thinking that it was crazy to think what people was warning me of, but over time each crazy thing came true one by one.
I’m 55 years old and have seen many things, but I am more scared now more than anytime in my life. What is happening is not normal by any sense. It is way over the top. They have been printing fake money for so long the dollar true value is near zero. A run on dollar will be all that it takes to take down the whole system.

Ed Laskie on January 25, 2010 at 8:37 AM

Obama still has not learned a thing. He is too cool for school.

kingsjester on January 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM

The police officers, firefighters, and teachers would have been the last jobs at risk

I disagree – these are often the first jobs to hit the chopping block in order to show voters ‘how desperate things are’ (and in some sense ‘punish the public’).

Its kind of like funding your [unnecessary but expensive] pet projects first, then split up the remaining scraps among the critical items such as medical, fire, police – when it comes up short (sometimes very short) ask for a ‘tax increase to fund these critical functions’.

Local governments do it all the time.

CrazyFool on January 25, 2010 at 8:50 AM

I disagree – these are often the first jobs to hit the chopping block in order to show voters ‘how desperate things are’ (and in some sense ‘punish the public’).

Its kind of like funding your [unnecessary but expensive] pet projects first, then split up the remaining scraps among the critical items such as medical, fire, police – when it comes up short (sometimes very short) ask for a ‘tax increase to fund these critical functions’.

Local governments do it all the time.

CrazyFool on January 25, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Yes, offering up the “gold watch” is always a favorite of these wormy politicos.

rplat on January 25, 2010 at 9:14 AM

But, seriously, he’s not into destroying the US. That’s way out there. He is certainly following a liberal path, trying to expand services to the most people,etc.

AnninCA on January 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Is that all there is to it? The health care bill was going to make the crisis worse, by making some severe cuts in Medicare. And it would’ve pushed many states into bankruptcy as they had to deal with new patients on that same system. Are you saying that was accidental?

Either the Democrats are incredibly, mind-numbingly stupid, unable to see that cutting the Medicare budget while adding people to it causes problems, or they’re doing it on purpose.

Which do you think it is?

hawksruleva on January 25, 2010 at 10:37 AM

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