Oh my: Huckabee 45, Obama 44
posted at 4:54 pm on January 22, 2010 by Allahpundit
The timing’s awkward given Huck’s comment last night that Brownmania has inadvertently set Obama on the path to reelection, but even so, this is the first poll I can remember seeing — anywhere — that has The One trailing a Republican.
Second look at Huckabee?
Mike Huckabee has a 45-44 advantage over Obama, aided largely by a 44-38 lead with independents. There continues to be no evidence of any negative fallout for Huckabee after murders of police officers committed by an ex-Arkansas inmate whose sentence he had commuted. His 35/29 favorability breakdown is actually slightly better than it was in November before that incident.
Mitt Romney does the next best, trailing Obama 44-42. His favorability is 36/32, and he’s the most popular Republican among independents (41/32). Romney actually matches Huckabee with GOP voters this month and gets over 50%, ending a trend in his numbers that had seemed to spell difficulty for snagging a Republican nomination.
Sarah Palin trails Obama 49-41 largely because she loses 14% of the Republican vote to him, making her the only one of the GOP candidates we tested who Obama could get double digit crossover support against. At the same time Palin continues to be the most well liked potential GOP candidate within her party- at 71% favorability. Her problem appears to be that the Republicans who don’t care for her will go so far as to vote for Obama instead of her.
Her favorables stand at 42/51, which is better than they were after she resigned. The recurring problem with trying to compare her data to Huckabee’s and Romney’s is that she’s far more widely known than they are, so the undecided column end up turning things into apples and oranges. For instance, her favorables among Republicans are 71/19/10; Mitt’s and Huck’s are identical at 56/17/27. If 15 of that 27 percent of undecideds breaks into the favorable column, they’re at parity with her (although she’d likely still be ahead given the way her own undecideds would break). Same goes for the Hispanic vote: Head to head with Obama, she takes seven percent more than either Huckabee or Romney do, but in their cases fully 13 percent of Hispanics are undecided. By the same token, Palin is at 26/68/6 among moderates while Huck is at 21/37/43 and Romney at 30/38/33. Her disapproval seems eye-popping compared to theirs, but imagine where Huckabee will be once his undecideds shake out. Not hard to imagine him cracking 60 percent too.
The interesting numbers are how they do head to head against Obama among Republicans. PPP oversells it a bit: It’s true that more GOPers cross over and vote for The One if she’s the nominee, but her numbers aren’t dramatically different from Romney’s. She pulls 77/14/9 and he pulls 77/9/14. Huckabee does noticeably better at 82/10/8, putting him at +72 compared to +63 for her. Fox News posed the same hypothetical match-ups in its own recent poll and it too found more Republican deserters if Palin’s the nominee than if it’s Romney. In the Fox data, against Obama, she pulls 68/17/4 while Mitt pulls 74/9/7. (They didn’t ask about Huckabee, likely because he’s an employee, but Gingrich pulled 63/13/10.) Exit question: What can she do to win back the Republicans who are down on her? Besides campaigning for Maverick, I mean.
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Huckabee is to the left of W on economic issues, we don’t need that.
lavell12 on January 22, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Chamber Pot 51%
Huckaphony 25%
Chairman 24%
Dick Turpin on January 22, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Actually about 55% of the electorate voted which is really great for a special election.
chemman on January 22, 2010 at 5:44 PM
I’m so not evangelical. LOL*
Remember, a lot of Independents have no stereotypes about any of these guys. I sure didn’t pay attention to them ever.
Here’s how they “appear” to me. Romney is like Obama, Mr. Present Voter. He’s too slick and we can’t afford someone so obtuse. Huckabee, personable and frank. You know where he stands. Pawlenty, image only right now, and zippo substance. The little he has said, the more I KNOW he’s not attractive to me, anyway. Flat tax? No thanks. Palin, direct, I know where she stands on issues, and I haven’t found much I disagree with, other than probably she’d appoint overly conservative supreme court justices. Other than that, she’s a green light for me. I don’t think she’s the most articulate, but I do think she communicates effectively, if that makes sense.
The rest mentioned are out of the question. Petraeus isn’t available, and the “chatter” about Brown is stupid.
Just my 2 cents.
Oh, I should add, I think Dems are overconfident that the GOP can’t put forth a viable candidate. By the time we get there, I suspect a LOT of people will be ready to hand Obama a 1 term presidency and say, “We think you’re a nice guy, but we’ll try something else.”
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM
If Huckabee is polling so high, how is Bloomberg doing in the polls? I mean, don’t they have the same sin-taxes platform?
MeatHeadinCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM
upinak on January 22, 2010 at 5:42 PM
why does it matter that he voted for Obama? I can still agree with what he said. I want a fresh crop, not the same losers of 2008.
Conservative Voice on January 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Today, Huckabee over Obama? Come 2012, I’d wager Peewee Herman 61, Obama 30.
TXUS on January 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Biography-wise, Huck is the white Obama. Except he actually has experience being an Executive. For people who vote on that basis, I can see why he leads.
Speedwagon82 on January 22, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Head-to-head polling is sort of a silly way to figure out the difference between “approval” and “credibility” ratings, to me.
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Given that you are a liberal, shouldn’t we do the opposite of what you recommend?
Vashta.Nerada on January 22, 2010 at 5:48 PM
If Huckabee can say whatever he wants on national television, Romney can to…and what he said should be a lesson to all Romney supporters as to what he’ll actually do if ever elected (or should we just hope for another flip flop).
And if you look at the facts, Huck’s a fiscal conservative.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/11/huckabee_is_a_fiscal_conservat.html
He just actually governed, too, that’s all. More than you can say for Mitt or Palin…
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Personally,I’d never vote in reaction to anyone here, or anyone anywhere.
But you’re sure free to do so.
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Huck won’t run. He got the taste of the almighty dollar from Fox and LIKES it.
tatersalad on January 22, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Huckabee reminds me of Jimmy Carter. A religious man. They always find a Bible citation that makes it Ok to screw you.
Dale on January 22, 2010 at 5:49 PM
You missed my point. The liberals in the press are constantly talking up the republicans they can ‘work’ with, and attacking those they fear.
Vashta.Nerada on January 22, 2010 at 5:50 PM
i THINK that the poll really spells out Obama’s problem. He’s hanging onto approval ratings only.
It’s very clear from this poll what the MA vote really meant. The progressive movement can still hollar, but when Huckabee beats Obama?
Come on, that says something real.
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Well ALLA another favorable post about your favorite piece of crap.I would just as soon have Obama for 4 more years than this phony.Let this guy run and even Rush would be calling for a third party.
thmcbb on January 22, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Ba da bandwidth tumble for traffic. I’m sure Huckabee will say to all the far left democrats that he’ll be more than willing to pardon Obama when the time comes.
Americannodash on January 22, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Dumb and dumber.
hillbillyjim on January 22, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Wait until the attack ads come. Right now probably no one knows – it was like a one day story.
RINO in Name Only on January 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM
I really am not quite sure what you’re talking about.
I will say that I personally think MA and the teaparties, in many respects, are about moderates standing up and objecting to BOTH partisan sides.
We are sort of over both.
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM
With all due respect, Shut your filthy mouth.
juanito on January 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Or, could it be they just attack easy targets (i.e. Palin), and we make it even easier for them by propping them up? Nah…
“Repeat the mantra, repeat the mantra, repeat the mantra..”
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Looks like the elite Repubs would rather vote for the marxist than Palin. Hm.
Also, could Huckabee be the chosen one?
True_King on January 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Yeah, wait until Romney, Pawlenty, and other Republican challengers break out the attack ads. That’ll be the end of our best chance at beating Obama in the general! Haha! That’ll teach the Huckster!
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM
You know, it occurs to me that there may be a dynamic that know one has accepted yet, and might not even be accepted until after Nov.
There is a very apparent anti-establishment, anti-elite, whatever you call it, feeling out there that just might have a significant role in 12. I really think that most candidates will in the near future will do all they can to play up their ‘regular dude’ creds, and downplay any connections to government and the ‘elites.’
Some will be more successful than others about that. Romney can play up his private sector work in finance, but has to overcome the political family aspect. Huck has his own liberal-type taxing issues, and I also really doubt that the ‘evangelical’ vote will be nearly as important as it once was.
Palin does have one risk with this Fox gig, and that is that if she is seen often enough palling around with politicians, that may start to brand her more of an insider than what I think the perception is now.
There’s a chance that we haven’t heard the name of the next greatest thing to come along.
JamesLee on January 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Huckabee, Obama…the two I could never vote for, period.
JEM on January 22, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Your kidding.
True_King on January 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM
After this failed experiment with a “novelty” President, I believe the voters will return, at least for the next term, to someone “safe”. That would be an older white guy with executive experience. The radicalism of the Obama administration seems frightening. Huckabee has that fatherly, or even grandfatherly, personableness about him. I can see why he may be leading. He’d be the feel-good candidate in the other direction.
I don’t believe we’ll be able to elect a female until at least 2016. As the electorate, we need some time to get over debacle of 2008.
Ace ODale on January 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Definitely not. I think I’m more sick of the partisanship than anything else.
I really, really, really am over it. I am ready for moderates to take back our country.
Seriously.
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:58 PM
I never have understood the simultaneous dislike of Huck and love for Sarah here in the HA comments section…. (AP is guaranteed pretty much the same reaction in the comments whether he says something good about him, or something bad about her — 500 comments jumping down his throat either way.) I really don’t get it. I’d be thrilled with either of them in the WH rather than the current Prez.
And, other than that, I love this site. :)
acasilaco on January 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM
We all swore during the primaries to desert McCain, and voted for him in the general anyway. His selection of Sarah made that more palatable, but I would have taken a bullet before voting for Obama.
Those who say they’ll bolt during early polls don’t all actually do it, I bet.
TexasDan on January 22, 2010 at 6:03 PM
A democratic polling firm has Huckaphony leading Obama–and that surprises you? They would LOVE for the Republicans to nominate this loser in 2012. It’s called picking our candidate again. Ain’t gonna happen. But you’ve gotta give PPP credit for trying.
Redneck Woman on January 22, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Might I suggest that if the attack ads would kill him in the primary, then perhaps he is not, in fact, “our best chance at beating Obama in the general”?
RINO in Name Only on January 22, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Huck makes a nice commentator. And that’s it.
GarandFan on January 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM
What’s a moderate? The extreme belongs solely to the left. I think you’d have a hard time naming any position on the right that’s “extreme”.
darwin on January 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM
I wonder how this compares to the percentage of Republicans that voted for Obama back in 2008? Also what percentage of that 14% would actually just stay at home instead of voting for Obama against Palin?
Hellrider on January 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Great point.
darwin on January 22, 2010 at 6:07 PM
You’re new here — well, at least at posting comments. Huckabee would be good senator like Pawlenty would be a good senator. I’m voting for an authentic conservative in 2012. Huckabee couldn’t even beat his lesser qualified competition in 2008. What makes you or anybody else here at HA think he’s even in the running for 2012 other than this shjtty poll posted. Allahpundit doesn’t commit to anybody. He takes the Jake Tapper approach, ask him. He just post blurbs about politicians and then stands back to watch the traffic. So when he writes “Second look at Huckabee,” he really means how many of you fools think he still has a chance?
Americannodash on January 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Allahpundit, not gonna lie, if I had a favorite person in the world today (I don’t) but if I did, it would be you. Because man…
apacalyps on January 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM
You may think that but your wrong.
The tea parties are about economic conservatives standing up against the left in both parties.
FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM
The reason I could never vote for Huckaphony is HE IS NOT A conservative .He is to the left of McCain anyone that would take the time to do a little checking on this man record in Arkansas would see this.He raised taxes,week on crime,pro illegal aliens,pro endowment for the arts ,pro national teachers union,pro global warming,and if you watch his show on fox he just loves liberals.The national media will play this man up because they know full well HE CAN,T WIN.
thmcbb on January 22, 2010 at 6:14 PM
AllahP, be careful what you wish for. A President Huckabee would be inclined to set up a fairness doctrine to limit the first amendment rights of atheists.
Vashta.Nerada on January 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Huckabee is unelectable. First, because of his last name. Second, because of religion.
This is not about Huckabee. Its about Gingrich/Palin
Punditpawn on January 22, 2010 at 6:27 PM
“What? Yeah, OK. I’ll be right there. Right.” (apacalyps opens the door and disappears outside).
apacalyps on January 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM
PS forgot this one on Huckabee .Remember he also was one of the first to come out and say he wanted Obama to be successful then went on to criticize Rush and latter Hannity for saying they wanted Obama to fail.
thmcbb on January 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM
buut..b..b..bbuut…he plays a mean bass!
NY Conservative on January 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM
Just my 2 cents.
AnninCA on January 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM
which is a good estimation of the value of your analysis
I think you are a lib posing as independent, and giving poor advice
windansea on January 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Ooh, what else can you, the unelightened one tell us about what really isn’t going on.
Americannodash on January 22, 2010 at 6:37 PM
can’t vote for the man…he’s the reason we got mccain in 08…
cmsinaz on January 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM
You say tomato….I say toh-matto….
You say “Hucktastic”…..I say “HICK-tastic”.
PappyD61 on January 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM
AP, you are one for sneaking. That “poll” is from PPP.
Now let me get this straight, THE most influential dhimmicrap, run by Carville, poll says Sarah is the absolute worst Republican candidate EVAH vs. the ‘Won’ and you won’t even declare where it’s from.
WOW, you are totally under the table for Romneycare aren’t you?
I am stunned. Really, though, good news for the Huckster right?
Blacksmith8 on January 22, 2010 at 6:41 PM
Uh, no.
exdeadhead on January 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM
No, I was referring to you not understanding what he meant. He was saying the media always attacks the one they fear the most, in this case it’s Palin. Look at how they attacked Reagan in much the same way.
As for moderates, no way, only people who will work to put the nation back onto its Constitutional moorings.
True_King on January 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM
Sarah Palin loses 15% of the Republican vote to Obama? Wow. I can understand if Palin isn’t your cup of tea, but to prefer more of Obama???? Can it be that the elitist wing of the GOP (Brooks, Frum, Parker, Buckley et al) is that big?
SukieTawdry on January 22, 2010 at 6:47 PM
If Huck wins the Republican nomination I am done with the Republican party – DONE! If Republicans think Huck is a “conservative” then clearly I am not. If a Tea Party candidate runs I will vote for them or write someone in.
Clearly Republicans want to elect another RINO again – then I will not go off a cliff again like we did with McCain.
winged on January 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM
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not
windansea on January 22, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Sure I’d rather have Huck then Maobama. But I also voted for McCain too.
scrubbiedude on January 22, 2010 at 6:51 PM
most of those reps that say they will vote for Obama over Palin or huck or Mitt are the ultra partisians that have a dog already in the fight. Mitt’s fanboys who naturaqlly will say they will vote ofr Obama over Palin Now before the primary. The same goes for Palin’s supporters who say they will vote for Obama over Mitt or huck.
basically this poll is worthless as many of the gop has ultrerior motives to their answer.
Once the general comes around and it is Mitt or Palin or huck or someone else alot of these gop members will come home to the party.
Personally if Palin doesn’t get the nod if she runs I will be very less likely to vote. I do not want dem lite again with huck or mitt. If she chooses not to run i still do not see me doing alot if a Rino gets the nod. about 3 weeks of DNC attacks ads will drive Mitt and Huck unfavoravles above Palin’s
unseen on January 22, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Huckabee? Is this a joke? You mean someone is going to put up a guy as candidate for President that looks like he needs a chef’s hat and should be pitching Campbell’s Soup?
CC
CapedConservative on January 22, 2010 at 6:54 PM
You’re being too nice. The feeling out here is anger and fear. The anger is toward those who were elected and didn’t do what they were supposed to do. The fear is about losing what we have and hold dear, losing our freedom, and learning after the next election that the new bozos are the same as the old ones but with different last names. It’s not pretty. The primary reason MA chose Brown is because he has a history in his state. He has been doing what he said he would do and in todays blind rage that is the ONE thing voters will hang on.
As far as insiders goes, I don’t think DeMint, Coburn, Pence, Bachman, or Lamar Smith have anything to fear from the new dynamic. Those folks could be relected posthumously. Also, they may be insiders, I don’t care, I’d vote for them all, if I could.
Blacksmith8 on January 22, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Go right ahead! But that suggestion overlooks the fact that a primary consists primarily of Republican voters, who get a lot more worked up over crime and punishment issues like the Clemmons tragedy than Dems do. Huck’s record on clemmons is only going to come back to bite him in the general if Republicans give it teeth in the primaries. Why bite the hand that looks most likely to feed us a win in 2012? Two words: Pride and Ignorance.
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Which is how Brown won in Massachusetts. Mass is hardly typical of the entire country. Besides, how can you say Palin can’t win this or that vote absent an actual, you know, campaign? I can speculate that Romney isn’t going to do very well in the South or Midwest either, but that’s just speculation.
Huckabee, though? Right. A PPP poll, from a totally disinterested outfit. They’re just going to talk up another easy clay pigeon.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Palin’s not my first pick, but I’d take her over Obama any day. Besides Frum and Brooks, who wouldn’t?
packsoldier on January 22, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Oh give me a break. The Democrats are going to be so ignorant of Huckabee’s weak spots because Republicans soft-pedal them? LOL If Huckabee’s the nominee, get ready for round-the-clock reverse-Willie Horton. They’ve been waiting 20 years already for that chance.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Well, yeah, I was trying to be nice. Yes, I know it’s actually anger, and I know that it is not exclusive to one party.
The problem as I see it, is that we really have only two choices, R or D. Obviously, the D is NOT an option, but the R usually isn’t much better. I’m with the crowd, however, that believes that the 3rd party route is even more unacceptable, and the Republican party must be changed from the ground up by US.
My fear with this is that this Nov, there will be a tidal wave, at least approaching ’94, if not surpassing it. And once that happens, I hope people stay angry, and hold our side accountable even moreso than the other side. If ‘our’ guys don’t do any better, then we better be ready to primary the hell outta them!
I don’t want us to have to go through this every couple of decades. But the more I see, the more hope I am gaining that the people are really beginning to pay attention and think about things. I pray I’m not wrong.
JamesLee on January 22, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Honestly, I can’t think of many Palin fans who would ever vote for Obama. Ever.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:10 PM
I think at this point anyone with an (R) next to their name with do well against Obama. Huckabee just has more name recognition at right now. That is all.
uknowmorethanme on January 22, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Better exit question: what the hell kind of Republican would rather vote for Obama than Palin, Romney or Huckabee?
spmat on January 22, 2010 at 7:15 PM
An idiotic one. And there are plenty of them around.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Oh snap, Ann… you just got internet-served.
RachDubya on January 22, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Thanks for the welcome. I read here pretty regularly but rarely comment because it rarely seems worth it. Too many starry-eyed Palin supporters acting like Obama supporters a year ago:
Those are actual HA comments, and I could find worse.
I finally decided to jump in today because I’m tired of watching conservatives act like libs by drooling over the next big thing (i.e. Palin, Beck, Brown, whomever) while ignoring substance.
The war against Huckabee is a perfect case in point, in my opinion. He couldn’t beat his lesser qualified competition in 2008 because by the time he got in (as an asterisk in the polls), the Rush, Hannity, Coulter crowd had already thrown in with Romney, so they skewered Huckabee the second he appeared to be a threat to Mr. RomneyCare.
Now that Huckabee’s built a base and obviously does well with the all-important independents, conservatives should actually take the time to do some fact-checking and give him the first look he never got from so many instead of bowing to the almighty conservative talking heads.
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 7:22 PM
I’ll take the field. Everyone keeps flogging the same tired horses here –Romney, Palin, Huck, Pawlenty — when there are many many more dark horses out there. There is lots of time left before the primaries for 2012.
GnuBreed on January 22, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Actually, what this poll found is that Huckabee has far less name recognition than Palin, and he’s still besting her against Obama by a fairly significant margin. Downplay all you want, but facts are facts.
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 7:24 PM
I suspect a LOT of people will be ready to hand Obama a 1-term presidency and say, “Good effing riddance you arrogant, preening, socialist, wind bag.”
But, hey, this is just my suspicion.
nico on January 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM
I’ll hold my nose and vote for Romney. Huck, on the other hand… Don’t push me. I hate statist (R)’s even worse than I hate statist (D)s.
ReformedAndDangerous on January 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 7:22 PM
ann?
windansea on January 22, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Yeah, just like the Dems would have nailed Giuliani over his pro-choice stance in the general…er, wait. Your comment presupposes that Dems approach issues the same way Republicans do, and that what Republicans deem a weak spot Dems will also deem a weak spot. That’s just patently untrue. Sorry, not gonna give you a break on that one.
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 7:28 PM
I will never support Huckabee. He is a hypocrite and a fake.
JDH on January 22, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Maybe I was redundant but you get the point.
JDH on January 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Astroturfing 2.0
Django on January 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Since Giuliani wasn’t the nominee, we don’t know how the Dems would have handled his pro-choice position. If you think though that the Dems are going to give the Clemmons thing a pass if only the Republicans politely ignore it, you’re beyond naive.
It could also be that people just didn’t like Huckabee. I couldn’t have cared less what the commentariat had to say about him.
Huckabee’s going nowhere. Get real. Palin would mop the floor with Huckabee in the South alone, if she chooses to run (which I doubt). Talk about starry-eyed. You’re already measuring the Oval Office curtains for Huck on the basis of a PPP poll.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:34 PM
You little devil, you! :-D
SouthernGent on January 22, 2010 at 7:35 PM
11,000 comments on HuffPo? What credibility problem?
nico on January 22, 2010 at 7:35 PM
ROMNEY/BROWN
yep…it looks good
2 alpha male family guys classified R who exude confidence
low taxes
good economy
national security
I’m good with that
plus they’ve both won statewides in Mass, birthplace of some great presidents and founding fathers
I see names in bumperstickers……….
windansea on January 22, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Great. Two northeastern guys. Non-starter.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:41 PM
If Huck is the candidate, I will sit it out.Held my nose for McCain, and considered my vote for Palin. Not again. I\’d rather go deeper into the woods and forget everybody.
RealMc on January 22, 2010 at 7:41 PM
Sounds fack to me- The mainstream media will push Huck out front like they did last time and then crush him when he wins the nomination.
No thanks.
gdonovan on January 22, 2010 at 7:42 PM
LOL…you got it.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Great. Two northeastern guys. Non-starter.
ddrintn on January 22, 2010 at 7:41 PM
whatever you say Begala
freakin regionalist
windansea on January 22, 2010 at 7:48 PM
This speculation on who is going to lead is going to drive me crazy. Haven’t the citizens been doing a pretty darn good job lately. How about making these fools work to earn our respect instead of looking for someone to take over and relieve us of our responsibilities. I think the days of hiring (electing) someone to do the job without supervision are gone.
Cindy Munford on January 22, 2010 at 7:49 PM
You really think the Dems would have made a big deal about the fact that Giuliani is pro-choice? With what goal in mind exactly? Maybe so they could get all the pro-choice Dems and Indies not to vote for him since he’s pro-choice like all of them?! And I’m being naive here? Got it.
On the other hand, perhaps they would have tried to make a big deal out of to depress his conservative base. That would be the only legitimate possibility, in my opinion, but it wouldn’t work if conservatives decided not to make it an issue, which is exactly my point about Huck and Clemmons. Thanks for helping me make it for you.
By the way, arguing Palin would “mop the floor” with Huck in the South without providing any data to back up your assertion is pretty weak. At least get a PPP poll or something. ;)
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM
Apparently I don’t use question marks any longer.
Cindy Munford on January 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM
I’d like to see them poll Fred Thompson v. Obama. Ooooh! Wouldn’t you love to see a substantive debate between those two? Actually Fred, Huck, Mitt, and/or Newt could chew up BHO and spit him out when it comes to issues. We need an adult in the WH.
Oink on January 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM
You will never convince him he is one of the wide eyed Palinbots. Bring up legitimate criticism and he says “already been discussed”. Bring up criticisms about her weak experience and he will say “what about Obama”. Bring up less than flattering things about her such as allegations she hacked the email of a fellow commissioner while in Alaska and he will say “Don’t like the source – can’t be true”. Mention that executive experience for a 5000 person town and 24 months as governor for the 48th most populated state and he will say “she has a million facebook friends and has sold over a million books.”
And when all else fails he will ask you to name your “pick” so he can criticize instead of answer your question. What he doesn’t understand is that just because he has made his “pick” it doesn’t mean the large of majority of people have emotionally committed themselves to the idea of a particular individual being the next president.
Huck/Beck 2012!
“The Preacher and the Crazy Uncle”
Bradky on January 22, 2010 at 8:04 PM
Thanks Bradky. It’s good to hear a conservative commenting on this site who still has some sense. I’d say a very small minority of HA readers have emotionally committed to any of the top candidates at this point, but those that have sure do know how to make the rest of us look silly (especially the die-hard Palin supporters).
Nominating someone just because, “Ooo-ooo, the Left really hates her!” is not going to give us a decent shot at beating Obama in 2012. Glad to hear others here who recognize that. Keep turning down the Kool-Aid!
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Look, I love Michelle Bachmann as much as anyone, but no.
Michelle simply doesn’t have the experience. We are seeing what electing someone out of Congress gets you right now.
If the candidate doesn’t have EXECUTIVE experience, they need not apply. There’s a reason why we generally elect Governors to POTUS.
Out of the rest, that leaves us with:
Romney, a one term Governor who created RomneyCare…Epic Fail
Huckabee, a social con, but fiscal progressive. Nanny stater deluxe…Epic Fail on a biblical scale!
Then there is Sarah Palin. Almost two decades of EXECUTIVE level experience. A PROVEN record of competence. A real fiscal conservative. Pretty much a libertarian on everything else.
I know I wouldn’t trust this country to anyone else at this point. At least not anyone else we know of.
And Scott Brown? Come on, you guys sound like liberals who go stupid over the flavor of the month. I’m sure Brown is going to be a great Senator, but he hasn’t spent one day on the job, and you’re ready to run him for POTUS, Really? That’s how we got stuck with the moron we have now!
It all boils down to Sarah Palin. She’s the only logical choice.
BTW, for those that are too young to remember, might I remind you, the Great Ronald Reagan consistently polled dead last in every survey three years out from his historic landslide victory!
And that’s the point, we are three years away.
There is only one winning ticket for 2012…Palin/Perry.
gary4205 on January 22, 2010 at 8:18 PM
Why the “almost” Gary? Oh yeah, that’s right…
cschande on January 22, 2010 at 8:22 PM
See how much traffic Allahpundit got out of you today? That’s his job and nothing more. It’s what he is all about. The only subject he is solid on is atheism.
Americannodash on January 22, 2010 at 8:32 PM
Oh…! If a weak candidate like Huck can pull ahead of O… I just hope this doesn’t go to the big-tent RINOs’ heads and make them think they should run another RINO in ’12…
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on January 22, 2010 at 8:37 PM
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