Beck to Palin: Why are you campaigning for McCain?

posted at 6:55 pm on January 21, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via the Right Scoop, skip ahead to 7:40 and go from there. The exchange on McCain is predictable, with Beck wondering how she can support a “progressive” and Palin playing up his statesmanship and noting how solid he’s been in opposing Obama this year (which is true). More interesting is their exchange on Scott Brown. On the surface they’re both critiquing the political culture of D.C. — Beck refers to it as being “assimilated into the Borg” — but my sense is that he’s more focused on making sure Brown votes the right way while she’s more focused on preserving his independence. (“I want him to stay pure,” she says, free and clear of any political machine.) The irony, of course, is that in Brown’s case those two goals conflict: The more independent he is, the more likely he is to represent the majority in his state by breaking with the GOP and voting as a McCainian centrist “progressive.” Is Sarahcuda satisfied with that outcome in the interests of independence or have I misunderstood her and Beck here?


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Glenn, stick to what you do best: Educating us, Enlightening us, Energizing us, and Entertaining us. This is why we love you. Don’t let us down.

Key West Reader on January 21, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Mega Dittos

Texyank on January 22, 2010 at 12:51 AM

It’s a transparent double standard.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 12:02 AM

No, I believe you’re projecting.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 12:52 AM

May I just say that it is crazy how everyone analyzes Palin’s every move and determines if it’s bad or good for her, if they like her or don’t like her this week, it gives me whiplash. Let Sarah be Sarah and do her thing. If she’s the person we all think she is than she will be wildly successful, even more so than she is now. Just remember she is not perfect and your not going to love every move she makes, every person she supports, etc. etc. But, she has fought very hard for us – despite what the media and haters say.

repalincan on January 22, 2010 at 12:58 AM

Sarah is showing her true colors. I think it has very little to do with loyalty. Remember her throwing arch-conservative Pat Buchanan under the bus during election? Now she’s backing RINO politicians all over the country. McCain, Perry and Brown. Actions speak louder than words. She could have complimented them with some non-descript praise, but according to Sarah,John McCain is suddenly our knight in shining armor? The same McCain that sold us out time after time on critical issues?
Immigration, Cap and Trade, Global Warming, Campaign Finance. So Sarah, who’s it going to be? The unwashed masses or McCain?

Pitchforker on January 22, 2010 at 1:10 AM

Perry is a LOT better than Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

Sarah made the right choice.

AFaithL on January 22, 2010 at 2:02 AM

Is Sarahcuda satisfied with that outcome in the interests of independence or have I misunderstood her and Beck here?

She’s dismantling machine politics, and empowering populist “independence”, bolt by bolt, part by part! Her monkey-in-the-middle John McCain, is a longshot to even be alive in 2012, but for now 2010, he’s fighting a good fight, as is Romney’s stalking horse Scott Brown. Sometimes the old saw is true: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” and, RealPolitik needs to be accounted for, and used to the “Tea Party” revolution’s advantage.

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on January 22, 2010 at 2:10 AM

Glen Beck is a freaking nut-case.Sorry, but he is not helping at all. It’s all about being provocative. I think that is why Rush, Levin. and Hannity are skeptical of him.

sandee on January 22, 2010 at 2:18 AM

Glen Beck is a freaking nut-case.Sorry, but he is not helping at all. It’s all about being provocative. I think that is why Rush, Levin. and Hannity are skeptical of him.

sandee on January 22, 2010 at 2:18 AM

Glenn Beck is a conservative first, republican second. Principles before power, not the other way around. If that angers the party loyalists, so be it. We went down the power road with Bush and see where that landed us?

Pitchforker on January 22, 2010 at 2:23 AM

No, I believe you’re projecting.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 12:52 AM

That’s your counter argument? “No”?

There’s no refuting my point. The most that can be accomplished is to try and spin the hypocrisy into something that it’s not—and people people have been trying to do that since last night without success. The only people that buy the spin are other people also attempting to spin their own hypocrisy into something else, (except in the case of real RINO’s that actually support Crist over Rubio). At least in the latter case they’re consistent.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 2:38 AM

May I just say that it is crazy how everyone analyzes Palin’s every move and determines if it’s bad or good for her,

repalincan on January 22, 2010 at 12:58 AM

If Palin abandons Arizona’s Tea Partiers and conservatives, (who’ve been working to replace McCain in recent years), then why should they care if her betrayal of them is “bad or good for her”?

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 2:51 AM

But, she has fought very hard for us

repalincan on January 22, 2010 at 12:58 AM

That’s changed now though, hasn’t it? Now she’s fighting against the people in Arizona that she had previously claimed to represent.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 2:52 AM

Now she’s fighting against the people in Arizona that she had previously claimed to represent.

…And not because it’s what’s best for them, (which is what matters), or even the country for that matter—but because it’s what’s best for her own selfish interests.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 2:57 AM

Hmmm,

Testing 5-4-3-2-1

Test test

On Watch on January 22, 2010 at 3:24 AM

Sarah stumping for McCain made me a little sad, though kinda’ understandable.

What has me scratching my head is that she is stumping for Gov Perry here in Texas. We have a strong, independant thinking woman running for governor (uh, no, not KBH): Medina. Pro-gun, pro-home schooling, wants to get rid of property tax and completely gets land ownership. So I am disappointed that she is supporting Perry. *sigh*

cibolo on January 21, 2010 at 7:38 PM

It’s late…I’ll make this a dual purpose post.

cibolo…are you kidding? Sarah and Rick are friends. Say what you will, and there is plenty to say about Rick, he’s still the best Governor we’ve had in some time, especially considering what the country is going through.

KHB isn’t even qualified to remain as Senator…thank God we have Michael Williams warmed up and ready to go in for her.

Medina is unproven, and unknown.

Perry has proven that he is capable. Perfect…no, but Texas would be insane to change course right now.

Also, you can almost bet that Rick is on her short list for VP. In fact, I predict that is exactly who she will pick. So of COURSE she is standing by the man.

Now, for the rest of you nimrods that don’t get why Sarah is helping McCain, two words: Scott Brown.

That’s right, Downtown Scotty Brown.

John McCain was the first to get behind Scott. The first to tell him to go for it.

If you guys were paying attention, McCain was the first guy Scott stopped in to visit at the Capitol. Made a point of it.

For Sarah’s part, and really America’s, if it wasn’t for McCain choosing her as his running mate….only a handful of us would even know who Sarah was!

Also, other than Sarah herself, who else has been as loud as McCain barking at Obama.

Was he a crappy POTUS candidate, well…sure. But in the end, Obama being elected is a blessing in disguise. Obama is such a disaster that he is destroying the entire democrat party singlehandedly!

God works in mysterious ways.

Past that…just what kind of person would Sarah be if she refused to stand by McCain?

And you a-holes who are caterwauling about “politics” and “machines” chew on this…..The only reason NOT to stand by McCain would be for political gain. I mean hell, look how much easier on her it would be to tell McCain to go screw himself! It would certain help her career more than it would hurt, with some folks.

But then what kind of person would that make Sarah?

Think about THAT and then get back to me.

She’s doing the right thing. She ALWAYS does the right thing.

gary4205 on January 22, 2010 at 3:28 AM

FloatingCrock – the Tea Partiers could not have been trying to replace McCain for “years” because, well, they haven’t been around for years. As an aside FloatingCrock don’t quote yourself in posts, @ 2:52 AM & 2:57 AM
“Now she’s fighting against the people in Arizona that she had previously claimed to represent.”
It makes it look like it’s all really for your own selfish interests.

kellyjane on January 22, 2010 at 4:00 AM

Now, for the rest of you nimrods that don’t get why Sarah is helping McCain, two words: Scott Brown.

gary4205 on January 22, 2010 at 3:28 AM

I was rooting for Brown just like the rest of us but, by supporting Brown, McCain didn’t compromise his principles as a favor to Arizona’s conservatives, (even if Az conservatives were also rooting for Brown and benefited by his win), in fact McCain didn’t compromise his principles at all. And it was a team effort by people all around the nation including those that actually did compromise their principles. If anything, McCain owes them, not the other way around—especially the people of Arizona.

And Brown wasn’t running against another Republican in a primary on Tuesday but against a Democrat in a general/special election, a very different situation.

Palin’s support of RINO McCain against a currently more popular conservative Republican during the Arizona primary is akin to the NRSC supporting Crist over Rubio during Florida’s primary, which is something that conservatives have been up in arms about.

So your suggestion that Palin’s support of McCain against the people of Arizona is a quid pro quo for his support of Brown doesn’t hold water, and even if that is the reason, that would mean she’s bargaining away the interests of Arizona’s conservatives in favor of another states.

Past that…just what kind of person would Sarah be if she refused to stand by McCain?

She’d be the kind of person who puts the interests of the people of Arizona that she had claimed to represent over those of a cabal of political cronies that comprise a machine that she had previously claimed not to be a part of.

What ever happened to her being an outsider?

She’s doing the right thing. She ALWAYS does the right thing.

gary4205 on January 22, 2010 at 3:28 AM

So she’s infallible? Another messiah? (rolls eyes)

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM

FloatingCrock – the Tea Partiers could not have been trying to replace McCain for “years” because, well, they haven’t been around for years.

kellyjane on January 22, 2010 at 4:00 AM

I’ve consistently stated “conservatives and Tea Partiers”, which is entirely accurate. Conservatives, and even some that aren’t so conservative, have worked to replace McCain since amnesty, at least, and many of those same conservatives later formed/joined the Tea Parties.

As an aside FloatingCrock don’t quote yourself in posts

Who put you charge? Please show me the rule that says I can’t amend my prior comments and illustrate the context by quoting myself. To save you some time: you can’t, and I’ve been doing it here for years.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:22 AM

have worked to replace McCain since amnesty

…Not only have they worked at it, but for some time now the polls have shown that it is entirely within their grasp.

:P

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:24 AM

Palin’s support of RINO McCain against a currently more popular conservative Republican during the Arizona primary is akin to the NRSC supporting Crist over Rubio during Florida’s primary, which is something that conservatives have been up in arms about.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM

Hey, maybe if Mccain actually HAD a primary opponent, you would have a point. As it stands, Hayworth is a faux conservative pu$$y who has been d!cking around with the people of Arizona for a year. You’re projecting your anger on to Palin when it should be directed at Hayworth for not having the balls to make a stand against Mccain earlier. Maybe he was too busy spending all that money he got from Jack Abramoff?? Well, now it’s too late because Hayworth is nothing more than a little b!tch… a GWB Republican who recently lost in a very conservative district. F him… he should have been in the fight a long time ago if he really wanted to take it to Mccain.

BPD on January 22, 2010 at 5:52 AM

WELL PALINBOTS, YA GIRL HAS JUMPED THE SHARK! I GUESS SHE LIKES BEING ABUSED AND TORTURED!

SHE…IS…CLUELESS!!!!!!!

BobAnthony on January 22, 2010 at 7:07 AM

Does anybody doubt that John McCain hates us after all the things he has said about us and all the names he has called us?

Some things just cannot be forgiven….ever.

I agree that Palin has humped the shark. What a shame.

jay12 on January 22, 2010 at 7:31 AM

oops, jumped….but that, too.

jay12 on January 22, 2010 at 7:31 AM

Sarah is Still the future president for me.
As far as John McCain, if he can become part of the machine he can also disconnect himself from the machine.
He is a hero and so is Sarah. Why not stand for them.
Or if anyone really does know of The perfect person with no bad qualities, please bring them forward.
Lord knows we need to get as close to perfect now more than ever.
Has glen ever been lost? and has glenn ever been found?
He is also a hero. Now.

mrcarter123 on January 22, 2010 at 7:41 AM

Sarah is losing a lot of support because she is campaigning for the progressive McCain. I hope she wakes up and very soon. Many of her Tea Party supporters are outraged.

The latest behavior, of leftists Cindy McCain and her daughter is certainly not helping matters. Does Sarah Palin support the McCain ladies, too?

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/01/john_mccains_wife_and_daughter.php

sinsing on January 22, 2010 at 8:00 AM

Does Beck Really expect Palin NOT to campaign for the man who put her on the political map>?? Whoa…Beck is getting weird.

Dritanian on January 22, 2010 at 8:03 AM

Beck is starting to become a parody of himself. First Brown, now Palin. If you don’t fit what libertarian view he thinks you should fit, there’s something wrong with you.

He was on the mark for so long, then he took a hard right at Looneytown and is challenging Michael Savage for mayor.

As far as I’m concerned, Palin can do wat ever she wants and support whomever she wants. Free country!

Pcoop on January 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM

Does it mean that Palin supports McCain Feingold and amnesty for illegals? Oh, I forgot, they’re both “Mavericks”(i.e. gadflies)

kens on January 22, 2010 at 9:55 AM

The more independent he is, the more likely he is to represent the majority in his state by breaking with the GOP and voting as a McCainian centrist “progressive.” Is Sarahcuda satisfied with that outcome in the interests of independence or have I misunderstood her and Beck here?

Palinw as being consistant with what she has always said. Remember that Brown ran on some specific core principles such as tax cuts, anti-Obama care, anti- Cap N trade, anti- partial birth abortion and pro small government. It is good that he be his own mind but that does not necessarily mean he will become a poll chaser and do whatever he thinks the Mass voters want him to. As a true independent minded person he can try to make a case to the Mass voters for all of these foreign ideas to them about the value of the free market and the benefit of smaller government. This is what they elected him for, to be his own voice and they may or may not decide to keep him in 2012.

Daemonocracy on January 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Is Sarahcuda satisfied with that outcome in the interests of independence or have I misunderstood her and Beck here?

Perhaps what you’ve misunderstood is the mood in MA and much of the rest of the country.

SKYFOX on January 22, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Palin is claiming loyalty, but isn’t speaking at CPAC when that guy gets hammered for supporting Specter out of loyalty. OK.

Scott Brown went to McCain because McCain is the Republican counterpart to Teddy Kennedy and Teddy was no longer on the hill. But Camelot is gone. Scott Brown needs to recognize Massachusett[e]s voted, even in Hyannis Port, to bury Camelot and recover from Stockholm syndrome.

However, you need an entrenched politician to get on the good committees or the corner office. (Are they holding Kennedy’s office for Scott Brown?) The Tea Partiers need to use the old vanguard to be more than a popular voice in the crowd, but able to move and shape policy in those backrooms with an invite at the very least.

McCain thinks he is in charge and his ties to Kennedy matter. Witness Cindy’s pandering to their gay daughter, Meghan, by endorsing same sex (and by extension, polygamous) marriage.

It is not up to Palin to tell McCain otherwise but the people of Arizona.

FeFe on January 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM

I think Sarah just wants Brown to remember his roots and what got him there. Don’t become an inside the beltway pol.

Kissmygrits on January 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM

Someone please tell me a (R) is running against McCain…

I will not vote for John McCain
I will not do it in the rain
I will not do it on a train
I will not do it just for blame
I will not do it just the same.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 22, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Read Malkin’s report about McCain (written today). BEWARE!!! Red flags are flying.

mobydutch on January 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Thank goodness, Michelle Malkin has a memory.

mobydutch on January 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Read Malkin’s report about McCain (written today). BEWARE!!! Red flags are flying.

mobydutch on January 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Yeah, tell her thanks again for Obama.

Boxy_Brown on January 22, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Why are you campaigning for McCain?

Ummmmmm, maybe because they are friends and she respects him?

right2bright on January 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Does Beck Really expect Palin NOT to campaign for the man who put her on the political map>?? Whoa…Beck is getting weird.

Dritanian on January 22, 2010 at 8:03 AM

Excellent, if she didn’t, then others would say she was disloyal…
And I always thought he was a little weird, so maybe more weird.

right2bright on January 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM

arch-conservative Pat Buchanan under the bus during election? Now she’s backing RINO politicians all over the country. McCain, Perry and Brown. Actions speak louder than words.

Pitchforker on January 22, 2010 at 1:10 AM

I don’t know what you mean by “arch-conservative” do you mean a Jew-hater? Don’t attach the word conservative to him.

She is backing “RINO’s”, and she is not backing all Repbulicans? Of course she is…her actions speak louder then words. She is the one that took out the lying Republican crooks, and she is the one who took on the lying democrat crooks…her actions speak louder then your words, that’s for sure.

right2bright on January 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Nah, Boxy Brown, you tell her. This is her blog.

mobydutch on January 22, 2010 at 3:14 PM

Palin piles on Ted Stevens to lose the 60 vote and then she backs McCain. Nice to see she is learning to support the party.

McCain’s family better not be preaching non-traditional marriage in her ear.

PrezHussein on January 22, 2010 at 3:18 PM

At the moment this entire argument is moot as there is no one running against McCain in the Republican primary. No one has declared yet for an election taking place THIS year. Thus, Palin is supporting him vs. his Democrat rival.

howIroll on January 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Why are you putting scare quotes around progressive?

McCain is a progressive. He even stated that he’s a Roosevelt Republican. He supports cap and trade. He is not a fiscal conservative. He co-authored the worst assault on individual liberty in the past 50 years, CFR.

spmat on January 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Nah, Boxy Brown, you tell her. This is her blog.

mobydutch on January 22, 2010 at 3:14 PM

OK Moby, thanks for hysterically, shrilly and unfairly trashing John McCain throughout the election Michelle Malkin. When other commentators had the class to hold their fire and circle the wagons for the good of the country you were right out there tirelessly perusing your personal vendetta and personal agenda at the expense of the United States. Some of us wont forget that.

Thanks for helping to elect Barack Obama.

Boxy_Brown on January 22, 2010 at 3:39 PM

That’s your counter argument? “No”?
There’s no refuting my point.
FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 2:38 AM

Yes, that’s my counterargument. You misapprehended my point, which is you have no point. You have this perception that there’s a double standard, when there’s only one standard that counts. What she considers to be just, equitable, and loyal.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM

there’s only one standard that counts. What she considers to be just, equitable, and loyal.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM

So your argument is that you’re a Palin drone, then….

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM

At the moment this entire argument is moot as there is no one running against McCain in the Republican primary.

howIroll on January 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM

That’s absurd. If it’s a “mute point”, then why is McCain and his RINO cronies campaigning against Hayworth?

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:51 PM

Maybe he was too busy spending all that money he got from Jack Abramoff??

BPD on January 22, 2010 at 5:52 AM

Making false allegations against Hayworth makes you look very bad.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Democrats and McCain are figuring out how to fight back against the Supreme Court today.

New laws will come before 2012.

PrezHussein on January 22, 2010 at 5:04 PM

So your argument is that you’re a Palin drone, then….
FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM

No, my argument is that you are an imbecile.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM

LOL!

So now, being unable to refute any point I’ve made, the only recourse left to you is name calling.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 5:33 PM

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Uh, hello? My comment was in direct response to being called a Palin drone. Obviously you’ve made up your mind. Had I put the words

You have this perception that there’s a double standard, when there’s only one standard that counts to her.

maybe you could understand my point. But you’d rather call names, and I can accommodate that as well.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 5:40 PM

My comment was in direct response to being called a Palin drone.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Yeah, but in my case I was only drawing the obvious, logical conclusion from your own statement that:

there’s only one standard that counts. What she considers to be just, equitable, and loyal.

That same statement could just as easily have been made by an Obama drone.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Had I put the words [...] “to her”…

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Alright, maybe your not a drone and just misspoke. Fair enough.

But there are a lot of Palin drones around so it was a natural assumption. Somebody last night said that she can do no wrong.

FloatingRock on January 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Thanks. I do follow Palin, and I like her. I hope she does well. But there’s only been one perfect person, and she isn’t it. Her gaffes can be just as good as the next person’s. I don’t see that her following her own standard of loyalty to friends with a man who has done much for this country, regardless of your politics, is a bad thing. In fact, I’d be very disappointed in her if she threw him to the wolves.

Tennman on January 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I’m not that familiar with Arizona Politics….

I know I’m not fan of RINO McCain, is there someone worth sending $$$$ to?

Is there anyone running against Hayworth (longterm D.C. Congress Critter) and McCain?

PappyD61 on January 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM

Pappy, I am with you. I dont know if there is someone worth sending money to in Arizona.

mobydutch on January 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM

This is a good move by Palin. It completely discredits Steve Schmidt and his rantings and makes her look more moderate and “acceptable” to the beltway crowd. McCain was probably going to win anyway.

Doodad Pro on January 22, 2010 at 8:37 PM

You know what you get when you pick the lesser of two evils? Evil. I’d rather vote “none of the above” than for evil. That’s just me though. It’s like this: who would I rather babysit my children, a serial killer or child molester? Why should I reduce my choice to these two when there’s someone better? That’s one thing I’ve never understood about “conservatives”. They’d rather pick evil every time than take the chance for something good though evil would remain a possibility. In what other facet of life do we do this? We call this cowardice any other time. Thank God we don’t fight our wars this way. What would football or any other sport be like if we constantly played to not lose, yet never played to win? When you play not to lose, you more than likely will. This is getting old.

Send_Me on January 22, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Why do we hate McCain again like he is Obama himself?
uknowmorethanme on January 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM

Because at his core he is just another osama obama.

Blackhawk45 on January 22, 2010 at 9:33 PM

I do not know the plan, but it is better to find out who Palin is, sooner, rather than later

Possibly she has no plan, except to be on camera

At this stage she is a cypher

Palin has one big blank in her resumee: amnesty

Perhaps this election will answer the mystery, or perhaps McCain is using the no-position-on-amnesty-Palin to purge his own image so he can play both sides of the border

What people do is more useful than what they say

entagor on January 22, 2010 at 11:58 PM

I donated $60 to Scott Brown. I am fully aware he he’ll likely be a Rino. He still saved the country.

We shouldn’t have had Al Franken or the Alaska Dem Senator, but we shouldn’t take Brown for granted.

scotash on January 23, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Wow! I stared long and hard at the ballot and, after many minutes, voted for McCain. I had sworn that I would never vote for the SOB. I threw up in my mouth a bit after I did so. I rationalized that I was actually voting for Sarah. Well, my plan just went up in flames.

Time to donate to J.D. and pray.

shorebird on January 23, 2010 at 1:14 AM

Glenn Beck is a conservative first, republican second. Pitchforker on January 22, 2010 at 2:23 AM

Beck is Libertarian.

Nalea on January 23, 2010 at 7:58 AM

Total inconsistency here on the part of Palin. She plays up McCain’s statesmanship, and she wants Brown to stay free and clear from any political machine?

Vashta.Nerada on January 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM

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