NYT: House Democrats won’t pass Senate ObamaCare bill in cramdown

posted at 12:55 pm on January 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

If Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama sounded pugilistic on Monday about pursuing ObamaCare in the wake of a theoretical Scott Brown victory on Tuesday, by Tuesday night they sounded positively Roberto Duran-ish.  Pelosi had insisted that Congress would pass a bill regardless of the outcome in Massachusetts, but as the New York Times reports, her caucus has other ideas.  Instead of “combative” approaches, it’s beginning to look more like “No mas!”

House approval of the Senate plan was favored by some lawmakers and strategists as a way to quickly resolve the issue and deliver the president a bill on a signature domestic achievement with just one final House vote. Remaining problems could be worked out with a subsequent piece of legislation.

But many House Democrats expressed deep reservations about the Senate bill, and those complaints, combined with the message sent by the Massachusetts electorate, apparently were sufficient to leave Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and her lieutenants reluctant by Tuesday night about moving in that direction.

Democrats now face decisions on whether to give up on the health care fight — an approach few lawmakers appear willing to entertain — or perhaps pull together a scaled-back measure and use special procedural rules that would eliminate the need for 60 votes in the Senate. But it is not clear how many of the key provisions of the legislation could be passed under such a procedure.

What can’t get passed under reconciliation?  Insurance mandates for one, which means that the Democrats will lose the insurance lobby.  State exchanges can’t get passed either, nor the end of existing-condition limitations on insurance issuance.  Reconciliation only works for budgetary issues, so all of the Medicare cuts, Medicaid expansions, and new taxes can pass through this process — but those are the least popular elements of ObamaCare.

Furthermore, some of Pelosi’s progressive caucus seems ready to declare “no mas!” on this version of the bill.  Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) blamed the backroom deals for the anger in Massachusetts and indicated that his party needed to jettison it in order to clean the slate:

Noting that the election in Massachusetts turned on a variety of different factors like the economy and local issues, Representative Chris Van Hollen, Democrat of Maryland and a top party campaign strategist, said resistance to the emerging health legislation also figured in the anti-Democratic equation.

“Health care was also part of the debate, and the people of Massachusetts were right to be upset about provisions in the Senate bill like the Nebraska purchase and other special deals,” Mr. Van Hollen said, referring to elements included in the bill to win the votes of Democratic senators and round up 60 votes.

That doesn’t sound like a man ready to face political death on the hill of the Senate version of the bill.  Certainly part of the anger ObamaCare has generated comes from the “stinky” manner in which Democrats have conducted themselves on its construction, to quote Karl Rove on Fox News last night.  That’s at least a palatable spin, especially for Democratic progressives who lost the public option in the Senate when Harry Reid secretly rewrote the entire bill last month.

Moderates have also called for a halt to the effort.  Jim Webb, whose home state elected a Republican governor in a bellwether election two months ago, said that further action would be inappropriate until after Scott Brown took his seat in the Senate.  Reid seems to have capitulated on that point, saying that Brown will get sworn in as soon as Massachusetts provides documentation certifying his election — which may mean that an informal letter from Secretary of State William Galvin of the kind issued for Niki Tsongas will suffice.  Galvin promised to provide one for a clear winner of yesterday’s election, and Brown’s five-point win seems to assure it.

For the moment, it seems as though ObamaCare has been stopped.  But that doesn’t mean that it’s dead.

Update: Bruce Kesler has ten suggestions for Republicans on health-care reforms most people can support.


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They better throw the whole mess out.

ohiobabe on January 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

You go girl!

abobo on January 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

But that doesn’t mean that it’s dead.

yet. Keep positive!

upinak on January 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Nancy looks gooooooood in that photo. She’s having fun these days, I can tell.

Missy on January 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Thanks, HA, for using this photo of Nancy that you’ve included several times in various postings. Absolutely mahvelous!! Keep it going!

Mae on January 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Can you find another picture of Pelosi?! Yecccchhhhh.!

jwehman on January 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Andrea Mitchell is interviewing Axelrod on MSNBC right now.

fogw on January 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Shocker

Vashta.Nerada on January 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

How about a vote on the Republican bill? I know, that would be too democratic for the Democrats.

pedestrian on January 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Which left wing cult does Obama, Reid and Pelosi work for . . . they sure as hell don’t work for the people of this country.

rplat on January 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

It appears dear nan is in major need of another ‘face’ fix. These d’s are just re-grouping to see what next they can spring on us if the health bill is dead for now. They want control of everything they can get their slimmy fingers on.
L

letget on January 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Democrats now face decisions on whether to give up on the health care fight — an approach few lawmakers appear willing to entertain

Heh. Keep pushing, and you lose all independents and suffer a bloodbath in November – give up, and you lose all hard lefties and suffer a bloodbath in November.

Vashta.Nerada on January 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM

And they’re rethinking the entire enterprise at the moment.

Translation: Creating new strategy of lies.

ClanDerson on January 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Kill it. Don’t amend it, just kill it and start over.

petefrt on January 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I LOVE THE SMELL OF DEMOCRATS ROTTING IN THE MORNING

IT SMELLS LIKE…………VICTORY !!!!

Janos Hunyadi on January 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

“Can you find another picture of Pelosi?! Yecccchhhhh.!”

a bit redundant, dontcha think?

bbz123 on January 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Step down Pelosi.

portlandon on January 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Axelrod: “Americans support the components of the health care bill.”

No they don’t. Take your blinders off dummy.

fogw on January 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM

They never learn…

“C-SPAN!”

Seven Percent Solution on January 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Si se puede :-)

cmsinaz on January 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Democracy in action is a BEAUTIFUL thing.

We are so lucky to live in America and we should always keep faith in the American people and their ability to do the right thing (or at least to correct a mistake – as in correcting the 2008 election.)

Stephanie on January 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

They better throw the whole mess out.

Which? This healthcare disaster of a bill or the whole Democratic party?

trader67 on January 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Can you find another picture of Pelosi?! Yecccchhhhh.!

jwehman on January 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

That picture is what San Fran Nan REALLY looks like. It’s a pre-plastic surgery pic.

Dominion on January 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

At the very least, it won’t be dead until conservatives (note, not Republicans) are in control of at least one branch of Congress or POTUS.

Look on the bright side, though, now we can tackle “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” (Read: Amnesty).

mwdiver on January 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Why do the Democrats’ media cheerleaders keep urging them to go “all in” on healthcare without pointing out that when you do that in poker and lose you have nothing left and must leave the game?

They’ll never go “all in” because they just spin every defeat into a victory and print more money.

miles on January 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

“It is to me a new and consolatory proof that wherever the people are well-informed they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.”

—Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, January 8, 1789

LEBA on January 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Duran and Leonard had a subsequent fight: “Uno Mas”–One More….

This bill needs to be pursued back to the file folder and keyboards from whence it was spawned. Believe nothing.

ted c on January 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Related parody: Blue Dog Members Alarmed As Full Body Scans of Democratic Leaders Reveal Possible Political Suicide Plot http://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/01/blue-dog-members-alarmed-as-full-body.html

Mervis Winter on January 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

It’s harder to kill this bill than a vampire. Besides, I like vampires better.

GnuBreed on January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

axelrof-BLAME BUSH

get a new line dude!

cmsinaz on January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

I say we take off and nuke it from space. It’s the only way to be sure.

Lily on January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

For the moment, it seems as though ObamaCare has been stopped. But that doesn’t mean that it’s dead.

The Dems need a way to slither out from under the corpse of Obamacare in a way that saves face after nearly six months of making this issue virtually the only legislative priority. I don’t see how they can go the “no mas” route. Their best bet is to save healthcare for “manana” and declare that the economy and jobs creation has to take a top priority.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM

I luuuurrrvvvve that picture of Nancy; Looks just like her.

anniekc on January 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Andrea Mitchell is interviewing blowing Axelrod on MSNBC right now.

fogw on January 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

FIFY

D2Boston on January 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Let’s pass this bill—just make the jurisdiction Antarctica, put up a starbucks there, and watch the rats who really want it flee their duffs on down there. They love the environment and really think its getting warmer. They could use an object lesson.

ted c on January 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM

#killthebill

Connie on January 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Well..I hope so. Meanwhile I hear the Prez is going to announce the nationalization of student loans today. ugh Here we go!

Man, Rush is on a roll today! lol

becki51758 on January 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Blaming Republicans in…5…4…3…2…1

Yes~the REPUBLICANS STOPPED obamaCARE!

HornetSting on January 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

We are so lucky to live in America and we should always keep faith in the American people and their ability to do the right thing (or at least to correct a mistake – as in correcting the 2008 election.)

Stephanie on January 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

2008 was the first year I really questioned the competence of the American electorate. But thanks to intervention by God in arranging the specific circumstances of this election: death of The Swimmer, Massachusetts constant rule changing that resulted in this election at this time, unusually incompetent Democratic candidate, and exceptionally appealing Republican candidate, this country was saved from disaster. I can only think that somehow the electorate knew that Obama would not be able to accomplish anything of lasting significance. After the two wakeup calls of 2008 and Jan 2010, Both parties should know now that fiscal conservatism is the most important policy to follow.

pedestrian on January 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM

D2Boston on January 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM

no doubt…she may have been sitting on his lap making googley eyes…

yuck

cmsinaz on January 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Past time to hit the reset button.

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM

She has as many split ends and the splits in her party.

SouthernGent on January 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM

She is a horrible woman.

Knuterockne on January 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Take the individual problems, one at a time, and work with the Republicans to develop solutions that both parties can stomach.

MarkTheGreat on January 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Rush Limbaugh was playing Happy Feet over and over and over.

Enoxo on January 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

“It is to me a new and consolatory proof that wherever the people are well-informed they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.”
—Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, January 8, 1789

LEBA on January 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

It is a beautiful thing to see a Representative Republic at work, and those in temporary power slapped upside the head…

Seven Percent Solution on January 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Rush Limbaugh was playing Happy Feet over and over and over.

Enoxo on January 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Who sings that version of the song…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Don’t worry about Van Hollen’s reelection prospects here in Montgomery County, MD. We’re to the left of Massachusetts as a whole.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on January 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM

That photo looks more like Reid.

infidel on January 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Her minions have crept back into the woodwork. Wait for Hoyer to call for a vote of confidence…3.2.1.

Kissmygrits on January 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

So we saw nothing but idle threats about stalling Brown’s swearing in and reconciliation before the election? The duece you say!

I seem to recall an Alinsky rule that “the threat is more terriying than the actual thing”. Boy did that blow up in their face bigtime

Niteowl45 on January 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

If the Dems were smart, and they’re not, instead of pushing that abortion of a bill, THEY’D JETTISON PELOSI AND REID!

GarandFan on January 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

For the moment, it seems as though ObamaCare has been stopped. But that doesn’t mean that it’s dead.

Thank you, Senator Scott Brown!

House approval of the Senate plan was favored by some lawmakers and strategists as a way to quickly resolve the issue and deliver the president a bill on a signature domestic achievement with just one final House vote. Remaining problems could be worked out with a subsequent piece of legislation.
But many House Democrats expressed deep reservations about the Senate bill, and those complaints, combined with the message sent by the Massachusetts electorate, apparently were sufficient to leave Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and her lieutenants reluctant by Tuesday night about moving in that direction.

Maybe San Fran Nan can’t find 218 votes for the Senate bill, in which case it’s back to the drawing board. The longer the Democrats keep this up, the more Scott Browns we’ll see in Congress after November.

San Fran Nan hasn’t learned the First Law of Holes, but if she keeps on digging, we’ll take the People’s Seats.

Steve Z on January 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

whoa, what a photo! Rough night Nancy? Looks like someone dropped a house on you

Niteowl45 on January 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Amazing that one man getting elected last night could make these moderates suddenly grow backbones. Amazing.

AubieJon on January 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Here’s a general idea for health care (insurance) reform:

Migrate away from the insurance-for-everything model toward a catastrophic-only model.

Competition will drive prices down, making general health care affordable enough for everyone except the most poverty-stricken.

Daggett on January 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM

the Nebraska purchase

He forgot to capitalize the “p”.

unclesmrgol on January 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Who sings that version of the song…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Paolo Conti.

AubieJon on January 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Bruce Kesler has ten suggestions for Republicans on health-care reforms most people can support.

Not bad. Definitely a worthy point from which to begin negotiations.

MarkTheGreat on January 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Only a minority of Dems in the House wanted to vote for it anyway. The rest had been whipped.

What a convenient excuse to kill it.

percysunshine on January 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Hopefully Obama will have nothing to brag about in his SOTU speech.

fbcmusicman on January 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

AubieJon on January 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Thanks…

Seven Percent Solution on January 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

I think Pelosi was meeting with the entire Dem caucus last night. They must have had few choice words as the results were coming in.

barnone on January 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

I think Pelosi was meeting with the entire Dem caucus last night. They must have had few choice words as the results were coming in.

All with four letters.

percysunshine on January 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Hey Seven Percent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s4DqJLotw0

AubieJon on January 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Only a minority of Dems in the House wanted to vote for it anyway. The rest had been whipped.

What a convenient excuse to kill it.

percysunshine on January 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Yes, but they voted for it. And some bragged about the number of pieces of silver required

barnone on January 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

AP tomorrow:

“Democrats and their agenda “unexpectedly” begin to implode”

….”unexpectedly” except to the over 40% of this nation that new Obama was nothing but a socialist hustler with no accomplishments or the leadership ability to lead this country.

democrats and many in the MSM are turning on Obama faster than Scott Brown’s truck rolled over them last night and it pretty much makes me sick.

We need to make sure that the MSM and democrats that sold this Chicago hustler don’t get away with it.

They propped Obama up to be the great savior of the world,refused to hold him accountable for his radical past and lack of any experience what-so-ever.

They called us a bunch of “bigoted racist” everytime we tried to hold Obama accountable.


They called us “stupid” and an bunch of “right wing extremist” every time we pointed out Obama’s lack of accomplishments and experience.


Now they want to write,talk,and opine with the same message about the idiocy coming off the Hill that they called us a bunch of “racist” for saying during the campaign.

…….…well welcome to the show liberals and all your activists friends in hollywood and the MSM….
……glad you could make the trip back from the Obama unicorn and rainbow fantasy land that you have been in the last few years……..


……forgive me if we don’t welcome you with open arms after inflicting this destructive incompetence on our Nation while you ran around with your lips pressed so firmly to Obama’s a$$.


……..wonder if Demi Moore and her hollywood friends are going to make anymore youtube skits offering up all of their help for their liberal messiah, because he is sure going to need it.

The press,hollywood,and the democratic party are all responsible for the absolute failure and ineptness that America has to deal with in the White House.

………TIME FOR LIBERALS TO GRAB A DAM# MOP AND GET TO WORK!!!!

Baxter Greene on January 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Obama is gonna double down on stupid… Great!

MeatHeadinCA on January 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM

I would love to have been a fly on that wall. The democrats are so arrogant and gorged with power that this rethinking strategy is probably all smoke and mirrors anyway. There’s nothing they hate more than being crossed by or stood up to by some peon constituent. They know better than we and will not be told what to do by any democatic process like voting, etc. How dare we!

mozalf on January 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Hey leftys keep calling us Teabaggers and UnAmerican….insulting the American electorate is working out GREAT/SARC.

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM

I haven’t read “The art of war”, but I am sure somewhere in the text is a statement along the lines of when you have your enemy on the ground and he acts like he is giving up, you stomp a mudhole in his @ss until he has no fight left in him. This is what we need to do with the demrats and Obamacare. I say we completely eviscerate them until they are begging for us to accept their unconditional surrender.

Of course the RINO progressives like McShamnsty and Grahmnesty will demand we reach across the isle before we have the demrats complete humility. So we need to be ready to speak out against them too!

csdeven on January 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Come November it’s not going to matter because we’re going to vote the whole dishonest lot of them out of office.

TrickyDick on January 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM

For the moment, it seems as though ObamaCare has been stopped. But that doesn’t mean that it’s dead.

Ah, but death is a process no matter the speed of it, as systems shut down in a cascade.

The bullet is in, as it were. Now we just wait for the target to fall over and stop breathing.

Liam on January 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Obama won’t throw out seven months of political capital with a shrug of his shoulders and yet he has only to thank Pelosi and Reid for the whole mess, (including vote-buying backroom deals). Never mind that government mandates might be unconstitutional, the whole thing is a cluster-you know what. The fact that the Democrats got their sweetheart deals with the insurance companies and pharmas in advance, (ala Obama and Emanuel) leaves them with a delimma they can’t back out of. Pelosi and Reid have discovered that shutting out the Republicans from participating in the legislation with their “we have the power, so we’ll go it alone” attitude has come back to bite them in the @ss. The lame excuse that they allowed Republican amendments into the bill was nothing but tokens with no substantive change, ie insurance across state lines, or tort reform–real changes that would have reduced healthcare cost.
Bottom line, the Democrats saw their opportunity to take control of the entire healthcare industry, just as Bill and Hillary did. They got greedy for power and as usual, didn’t care what the cost was to any class of citizen.

The bill deserves a proper funeral, follow by a first class wake.

Rovin on January 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM

And they’re rethinking the entire enterprise at the moment.

Why wasn’t the cramdown worthy of a rethink before when the entire country was already outraged?

Speakup on January 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

I just love that picture of Nancy. It looks like she just flew her broom through a hurricane.

Dopenstrange on January 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

And they’re rethinking the entire enterprise at the moment.

Why wasn’t the cramdown worthy of a rethink before when the entire country was already outraged?

Speakup on January 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Maybe they thought we were just playing hard to get.

Lily on January 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

This is priceless…watching Dems devour each other

MCW on January 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Who sings that version of the song…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

I have no idea, sorry.

Enoxo on January 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Smart Power!

Itchee Dryback on January 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM

use special procedural rules that would eliminate the need for 60 votes in the Senate.

Hara kiri

drjohn on January 20, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Why wasn’t the cramdown worthy of a rethink before when the entire country was already outraged?

Speakup on January 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

I would imagine because they figured they could do what they want, having seen only what they chose to believe. Now that reality has struck in a new way, one the Dems never expected, they’re stuck. But not because they changed their minds in any real and lasting way.

This is the brilliance of America’s Founders: that it’s been made by them very tough for government to override the deepest will of the People.

I truly think that, long as the People remain educated about the very nature of our liberty, tyranny is impossible.

Liam on January 20, 2010 at 1:46 PM

The wicked witch of the west is screaming, “I’m melting…melting…melting……..”

MADgirl91 on January 20, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Lost

HadithHarry on January 20, 2010 at 1:49 PM

axelrof-BLAME BUSH

get a new line dude!

cmsinaz on January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

It comes straight from the top. Soros.

cthulhu on January 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I just love that picture of Nancy. It looks like she just flew her broom through a hurricane.

Dopenstrange on January 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

I hear she’s tryin’ to cut down on the Botox, so she’s living in a wind tunnel.

Rovin on January 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I truly think that, long as the People remain educated about the very nature of our liberty, tyranny is impossible.

Liam on January 20, 2010 at 1:46 PM

I guess all those years of replacing civics classes with “womyn’s studies” or “the politics of hate speech” didn’t quite do the job this time.

cthulhu on January 20, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Incumbent RINOs should also be at risk in 2010 if better alternatives are available. Keep your dollars away from the RNC and send them directly to candidates. The same thing happens as does with tax dollars to the government,…loss of control and lack of efficiency.

a capella on January 20, 2010 at 1:55 PM

cthulhu on January 20, 2010 at 1:52 PM

It doesn’t, because in my mind mind Reagan said it best: (paraphrasing) Liberty begins at the supper table.

I taught my children to understand their liberty, and once my son used the 6th Amendment against a false charge at his school. I think he was 12 at the time.

I also recall a scene from the movie Invasion America, when the head Russian terrorist said to his Cuban lieutenant, “Look at them! They’re fat. They don’t even the nature of their own freedom.”

That has stuck in my mind for 25 years.

The tyrants say we ‘need’ their schools. But to keep our liberty, we do it and teach it at our supper tables.

Liam on January 20, 2010 at 1:58 PM

Finally these lazy arrogant power-hungry wrongheaded dems will have to work to craft truly bipartisan bills that (maybe) will benefit the people, rather than only their party.

starboardhelm on January 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM

There are reforms that I as a conservative could support in all honesty. First, get rid of the limitations to cross state lines. By limiting choices, you limit competition, and increase costs.

Second, I could support a series of “catastrophic” insurance plans. Plans that would cost little, and only kick in when you were injured in an accident or other major illness. These catastrophic plans would enable people to have insurance for major issues, while continuing to take care of minor issues through other means, such as cash and carry.

Third, Tort Reform. Any plan must have tort reform for me to get on board. Lawyers have so over complicated everything, that now Doctors are required to perform excessive tests to rule out extremely rare conditions prior to treating an obviously sprained ankle.

Medical requirement reform. Most issues could be solved by the use of Medics, but our Insurance and Liability requirements instead force us to see a specialist for every stupid runny nose that comes up. If you have a fever, and a runny nose, chances are you have a cold. Go home, sleep it off, get plenty of fluids, and rest. Your Immune system will fight the bloody cold off. At most you might need a relatively minor med to reduce a symptom. A medication that could easily be dispensed by a trained medic.

I’m not saying elmininate doctors by any stretch of the imagination. I am saying that we should free the Doctors up for things that NEED their attention. PA’s and Medics could handle perhaps 10% or even 20% of the cases, making the Doctors able to spend MORE time on the cases that deserve their attentions.

Much of this revolves around Common Sense reform. Those are reforms that would reduce costs, and increase availability of medical care. Yet those reforms are what we aren’t doing, because they don’t create the beloved Government Policies that give Washington more power over us.

Give me the freedom, and the choices, and I’ll live with my decisions.

Snake307 on January 20, 2010 at 2:02 PM

That photo looks like Marilyn Manson without his white contact lens! Yuck!!

AubieJon on January 20, 2010 at 2:02 PM

starboardhelm on January 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Ah, but the best government is the one that does the least. It gets out of the way of personal choices. It doesn’t impose itself, but rather takes action to protect the population so that the People are kept safe to build wealth, and be the best they can.

All will prosper under that ideal. Anything more, under government, takes away.

Liam on January 20, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Waterloo …

tarpon on January 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM

The Republicans should introduce a resolution that in the interest of the environment the Dems agree to:
1. Shred all copies of the 2000+ page piece of used dog food and;
2. recycle it into toilet paper and
3. Distribute it throughout the vistors bathrooms so We The People can put it to good use!

dhunter on January 20, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Kesler’s suggestions are ok, but the biggest problem is the firewall between medical costs and the medical consumer. Have you ever tried to find out what a procedure really costs. It can be impossible when insurance is involved.

The rise in medical costs, which is the core issue, will never be reversed until the free market is allowed to do its magic.

If measures are enacted to contol costs via competition, more people would also be able to afford insurance and the % of uninsured would fall.

notagool on January 20, 2010 at 2:10 PM

Poor Pelosi, she looks rode hard and put away wet.

faol on January 20, 2010 at 2:18 PM

It’s time for CA to throw out Pelosi. They just havn’t realized it yet. Give them time.

jeanie on January 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Snake307 on January 20, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Very nicely said. I agree entirely.

marybel on January 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Update: Bruce Kesler has ten suggestions for Republicans on health-care reforms most people can support.

Frankly, I am sick of people telling/suggesting to me what I must do.

Blake on January 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

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