Bayh warns that “far Left” has seized the Democratic Party; Update: Lanny Davis concurs

posted at 11:36 am on January 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Rumors had Senator Evan Bayh on the short list to be Barack Obama’s running mate in the summer of 2008, and the choice would have made more sense than Obama’s eventual pick of Joe Biden.  Bayh could have given Obama some credibility as a centrist as well as regional clout in the Rust Belt, which Obama won anyway in the general election.  Now Bayh has to face those same constituents for re-election this year, and after the shocking victory for Republicans in Massachusetts, Bayh has a warning call to his colleagues on the Hill:

Even before the votes are counted, Senator Evan Bayh is warning fellow Democrats that ignoring the lessons of the Massachusetts Senate race will “lead to even further catastrophe” for their party.

“There’s going to be a tendency on the part of our people to be in denial about all this,” Bayh told ABC News, but “if you lose Massachusetts and that’s not a wake-up call, there’s no hope of waking up.” …

“The only we are able to govern successfully in this country is by liberals and progressives making common cause with independents and moderates,” Bayh said.  “Whenever you have just the furthest left elements of the Dem party attempting to impose their will on the rest of the country — that’s not going to work too well.” …

“It’s why moderates and independents even in a state as Democratic as Massachusetts just aren’t buying our message. They just don’t believe the answers we are currently proposing are solving their problems. That’s something that has to be corrected.”

That is as clear a shot across the bow for Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama as we’re likely to see in a Senate race — and an indication of where the Obama agenda is headed in a Senate with 41 Republicans.  Bayh has warned repeatedly over the past year about overreach and a leftward tilt in Congress, although thus far he hasn’t put his votes where his mouth has been.  He went along on ObamaCare after the public option got stripped out of the final Harry Reid version, and didn’t even get a deal like Ben Nelson wangled for Nebraska.

Bayh sounds as though he’s heading off the reservation in the wake of the Democratic fiasco in Massachusetts, but sounds won’t be enough for Indiana voters.  Bayh will have to follow through on his long-held threat to form a moderate coalition to block Reid’s agenda, similar to what John McCain did to George Bush’s judiciary nominees in 2005.    Even that may not help Bayh at this point; a gallows conversion rarely impresses anyone, and that’s exactly what it will resemble.

That doesn’t make Bayh’s advice to Democrats any less valuable.  They seem convinced that the only way to rescue themselves from the trap in which they have caught themselves is to chew off the foot that’s still free.  If they double down on their hard-Left agenda, nothing Bayh does will save him in Indiana, and leftists like Barbara Boxer may discover that they’re not immune to the anger that this Congress has generated, either.

Update: Former Clinton aide Lanny Davis makes a similar case in the Wall Street Journal:

Somehow, in the last 12 months, we allowed the party of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama to morph into the party of George McGovern (or more accurately, his most ardent supporters) and Howard Dean, who called for the defeat of the Democratic health-care bill if it had neither a public option or Medicare buy-in. (He couldn’t possibly have been speaking for the 31 million uninsured people in taking that all-or-nothing position.)

In 1996, Mr. Clinton was the first Democrat to win re-election since FDR—expanding the electoral map once again into western, southern, and sunbelt states. He did so by creating a new ideological hybrid for a still-progressive Democratic Party: balanced-budget fiscal conservatism, cultural moderation, and liberal social programs administered by a “lean and mean government.” This New Democrat combination appealed to Ross Perot independents concerned about deficits, and also to traditional Republican suburbanites who were culturally moderate on issues like abortion and gay rights but opposed to high taxes and wasteful, big-government bureaucracy.

Then, in 2008, Barack Obama added something extra: a commitment to a “new politics” that transcended the “red” versus “blue” partisan divide. He explained this concept clearly in his 2004 Democratic Convention keynote speech and during his 2008 presidential campaign. It meant compromise, consensus and bipartisanship, even if that meant only incremental change. The purists on the left of the Democratic Party who demanded the “public option” or no bill at all apparently forgot that candidate Obama’s health-care proposal did not include a public option; nor did it include a government mandate for everyone to either purchase insurance or pay a significant tax approximating the cost of that insurance—the “pay or play provision” in both the Senate and House bills.

Somehow?  Look very carefully for the one name Davis neglects to mention: Nancy Pelosi.  There isn’t any somehow about this.  Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda or couldn’t be bothered to make up his own mind about what he wanted.  The outcome was entirely predictable.

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This group would not be good news for the Republicans, of course, because it would allow the Democrats to avoid self-immolation.

Haiku Guy on January 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM

agreed.

when your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, sit back, pop a cold one and enjoy the show.

DrW on January 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM

I posted this on another thread at 10:39AM just right after Obama’s Live announcement & signing of an executive order… on health care? No way.

He never mentioned anything on camera about his agenda. However just prior to his “signing photo op” FNC announced that (King) Obama plans to go forward with his agenda as planned

Not such a great surprise given that he is an uber-arrogant super mess of a of a leader. He just refuses to realize A) This is not Chicago B) Our gov’t works FOR US. Somebody needs to school him AND QUICKLY or We the People will do it ourselves.
.
The executive order he signed? To force companies that have contracts with Washington to pay their taxes? No. Really. We needed that? And what’s next? Is he’s going to sign an E.O. to stop everyone from peeing on the eagle in the Oval Office rug?

NEWSFLASH FOR OBAMA:
1. He isn’t REALLY King of the USA
2. This isn’t Chicago
3. He & his cronies work FOR “We the People”
4. Get yourself some good better lawyers- you’re going to need them now more than evah

NightmareOnKStreet on January 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM

Man, this sounds like laying the groundword for a PARTY SWITCH.

Elizabetty on January 20, 2010 at 11:39 AM

We don’t want him. At best he’d be a RINO. Indiana can do better. I would have felt more welcoming had he aggressively followed a mild threat with a real vote. No he should stay a Democrat, retired.

MainelyRight on January 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Lanny,
The difference is between Clinton and Obama. Bot between the Dem party then and now. Clinton meant moderation, not push it for every last bit. Obama feigned moderation hoping people wouldn’t notice when it didn’t turn out moderately.

The fault here is entirely Obama’s.

Rocks on January 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Lanny Davis is smoking crack. Barack Obama is to the left of George McGovern.

D2Boston on January 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM

To Lanny Davis: We are coming for you…we have not yet begun to fight.

d1carter on January 20, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Kool and the Gang on Rush right now! Good Times.!!!

ted c on January 20, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Former Clinton aide Lanny Davis

Here it comes, Hillary is going to resign and run against Obama. See how Lanny said the “party of Bill Clinton” and proceeded to praise him.

behiker on January 20, 2010 at 12:08 PM

yep… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VR1bOha40U

WordsMatter on January 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

This comment does NOT obey your 5-7-5 rule. Worst Haiku ever! ;-)

WashJeff on January 20, 2010 at 12:04 PM

A Gang of Fourteen
Could save the moderate ‘Rats,
And thread this needle…

Haiku Guy on January 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

lovin’ rush!
GOOD TIMES!!!

cmsinaz on January 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Bayh’s claim, however false, can be used nationwide in the mid-terms by Repub candidates. Just a short mention, like maybe: “If one of their own says the same as we say, then it must be true!”

Liam on January 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Lanny Davis IS the far left. When did he become right of the far left? Oh well, they’re all commies from my perspective. Uncle Ronnie must be smiling up in Heaven today.

JimP on January 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Lanny Davis was totally behind this bill and Obama until now. What a rat!

becki51758 on January 20, 2010 at 12:10 PM

rush must have been reading hot air this am

ok to gloat but this is just the beginning

heh

cmsinaz on January 20, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda or and couldn’t be bothered to make up his own mind about what he wanted

FIFY, Ed.

rbj on January 20, 2010 at 12:10 PM

WashJeff on January 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM

The primary is February 2nd.

Don’t forget to vote early and vote often.

…….Richard J. Daley/Ed Schultz

Knucklehead on January 20, 2010 at 12:11 PM

In other news Bayh says “The sky is blue” and “Water is wet”.

Nice to see he’s caught up reading the news from 1972.

MrBrowncoat on January 20, 2010 at 12:11 PM

This one’s for you Mary Jo!

rcl on January 20, 2010 at 12:11 PM

I’d like to see them break up into two parties.
Let the progressives come out of the closet and show their faces.
America will show the world how we will defeat socialist progressives once again.
cntrlfrk on January 20, 2010 at 12:04 PM

They should have to follow truth in advertising laws and call themselves the National Socialists Workers Party or something.

Chip on January 20, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda or couldn’t be bothered to make up his own mind about what he wanted.

It’s absolutly both – not or.

He probably didn’t want to show to the voters how much of a socialist he is by handing it over to Pelosi AND he couldn’t be bothered to do much of anything than make speeches and enjoy the perks of a higher office.

IMHO

tru2tx on January 20, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Haiku Guy on January 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

thank you very much!

WashJeff on January 20, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Once more… BOTH parties are missing the main point… although Lanny has it Partly correct.

Bill Clinton, because of balancing the budget (although that was actualy the Repub Congress), was seen as a FISCAL CON.

Regean? Fiscal Con.

Bush 1? READ MY LIPS, no new taxes…

Bush 2? Bush Tax cuts…

Obama? No new taxes on the middle class… going through the Budget line by line… tax cuts for the poor…

Scott Brown? Fiscal Con (small l) Libertarian… won Taxechussets with a Fiscal Con platform…

Fiscal cons RULE in elections… if the Repubs want power, run on a Fiscal Con / Federalist soc policy platform, and they will win in National Elections.

Romeo13 on January 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM

This is what happens when Obama votes ‘Present’ with Pelosi and Reid in the room…

Good luck on that ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’ concept of government, Sen. Bayh. In case you hadn’t noticed it is what got your party into this mess in the first place. Better readjust your sights: you are hitting your foot each and every time.

ajacksonian on January 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Rush just did ‘twin spin’ of James Brown’s “I Feel Good” & “Good Times” [by I don't remember who?]

Dedicated it to Mary Jo & Judge Bork.

Good times, INDEED!

lukespapa on January 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Fiscal cons RULE in elections… if the Repubs want power, run on a Fiscal Con / Federalist soc policy platform, and they will win in National Elections.

Romeo13 on January 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Why this simple truth eludes politicians is beyond me. A simple leave me alone message for federal offcies is effective.

WashJeff on January 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Rush is on his A game today. Oh yeah! right on right on right on

ted c on January 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Does Bayh really think we’re this stupid? His ACU rating is in the low 20′s–nothing independet or moderate about those numbers.

ConservativeTony on January 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM

The lanny davis post is linked to the evan bayh comments.

MarkTheGreat on January 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda or couldn’t be bothered to make up his own mind about what he wanted.

Obama has been a radical all his life! He just did a masterful job of hiding it while running for president.

This was his agenda all along. Now that the people have seen Hopenchange for what it actually was all along, thank God, they are rejecting it wholesale.

KeepOhioRed on January 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM

They just don’t believe the answers we are currently proposing are solving their problems. That’s something that has to be corrected.”

Yeah…government is there to solve our problems. You tools are the problem.

BigWyo on January 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Democrats, much like Republicans, are forever “learning lessons.”

Remember Bill Clinton’s “The era of big government is over?”

Problem is, the lessons never seem to stay learned very long.

notropis on January 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM

“Whenever you have just the furthest left elements of the Dem party attempting to impose their will on the rest of the country — that’s not going to work too well”

Attempting to impose their will? Really?

With the polls having shown increasing opposition to it for months; tea parties widespread and growing with their aim clearly on defeat of Obamacare, and constant feedback that the bill is bad news for health care, the economy, and government fiscal restraint, how did you vote when your chance came to not have it “imposed”, Senator Bayh?

You, Senator Bayh, are a bigger problem than the “furthest left elements” in your Party that are “attempting to impose their will” because you not only didn’t attempt to prevent it when it counted, you have helped them succeed in doing it.

Dusty on January 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM

@ mark the great

right on brother. Let’s make it a drinking game.

The People voted last night, and they voted against Obama and the Far left.

THE FAR LEFT’S DAYS OF CONTROL ARE NUMBERED

FOR THE FAR LEFT AND OBAMA,

“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”

http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/EndoBegn.html

NOV 2010 is THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR THE FAR LEFT AND OBAMA.

NOV 2012 is THE END FOR THE FAR LEFT AND OBAMA.

Go Team America!

Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on January 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Evan Bayh is just noticing all this now?!!!

It took what just happened in Massachusetts for him to figure out that the far left is now the dominating force in his own party?!!!

What the heck did he think people like Pelosi, Reid, Frank, and Dodd, among others, were, closet moderates?

OK, Evan, happy you finally got your wake-up call!

Now, what the heck are you going to do about the situation?

pilamaye on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Hey guys! So can anyone name a “single far-left” thing Obama has done?

The GM takeover doesn’t count, McCain would have done the same thing.

The stimulus bill was much smaller than the “far-left” wanted, and i contained significant concessions to Republicans, including tax cuts.

The health care bill doesn’t even include a public option.

He’s actually been more hawkish than the Bush administration in Afghanistan.

So what is it?

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Bayh warns that “far Left” has seized the Democratic Party

Bwaaaaaaa! And Evan Bayh has voted with them in virtual lockstep since Day One. This spin-craft should be clarified for the voters of Indiana in no uncertain terms in two years, but unless Mitch Daniels decides to take Bayh’s seat, I don’t know that anyone else there has the stones.

Jaibones on January 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM

These guys were watching Beck on Fox yesterday.
Glenn nailed it- a civil war of liberals versus lunatics- 40 years in the making, coming to a head.

jjshaka on January 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Jaibones on January 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM

2 words: Go Marlin.

:-)

Abby Adams on January 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM

You’re next Bayh. Thanks for playing. Retirement in November 2010.

Republican on January 20, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Sweet! I was thinking that he didn’t run again until 2012. Is there anyone in the wings to run against this douche?

Jaibones on January 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

So, he’s just an idiot, not a leftard??

BigWyo on January 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda or couldn’t be bothered to make up his own mind about what he wanted.

Or because he was only interested in spending as much money as possible and didn’t care how. See “Cloward-Piven.”

Daggett on January 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Glad to see that they watch Glenn Beck, too.

Mirimichi on January 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM

So if you vote for the bills the “far left” put up 100% of the time are you not also “far left”?

unseen on January 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Bayh has warned repeatedly over the past year about overreach and a leftward tilt in Congress, although thus far he hasn’t put his votes where his mouth has been.

Then his words are worth the paper they were written on or the breath he expended saying them.

chemman on January 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda

There is NO secret to it.

Schadenfreude on January 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

***

The health care bill doesn’t even include a public option.

He’s actually been more hawkish than the Bush administration in Afghanistan.

So what is it?

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

The incredibly unnecessary bureaucracy built into both the House and Senate bills.

The civilian trials at extraordinary expense of jihadists who have already pleaded guilty.

BuckeyeSam on January 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

…he secretly supported a far-Left agenda

It is no secret, if you listen to any of his speeches. It’s just sad that the idiot voters that didn’t want this sh*t sandwich didn’t do that, before casting their vote. Isn’t this kind of like the Louis Renault clip we keep seeing here?

mwdiver on January 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Looks like there is a serious, principled conservative running against Bayh — Marlin Stutzman, State Senator. Not sure what his fundraising and campaigning prowess are.

Jaibones on January 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Nice try, troll. Where were you yesterday?

ladyingray on January 20, 2010 at 12:35 PM

with Dems running away from Obamacare, I see comments of”they finally got the messege”. Wron, they got the messege wel lbefore Brown won. They thought corrupt ACORN, unions and other groups would be able to ensure them of a majority through fraud. They thought they found a way around the offsetting the American peoples votes.

A Brown win made them realize, despite fraud, bribes and everything else, they DO NOT have the votes to continue their reign of power

Oh yes, they knew the messege long ago with the Tea Party protests and town halls. They just didn’t give a crap because they expected corruption, fraud and bribes to carry them back into office over and over.

Boot them all, they had no problem voting for healthcare, cap and trade and stimulus before a Brown election. Nothing has changed except their expection of getting re-elected

Niteowl45 on January 20, 2010 at 12:35 PM

So what is it?

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Just today, taking over the student loans.

Schadenfreude on January 20, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Hey guys! So can anyone name a “single far-left” thing Obama has done?
The GM takeover doesn’t count,

Only in your fevered, leftist mind – oh, and in case you wondered, government ownership or nationalization is called Socialism.

The stimulus bill was much smaller than the “far-left” wanted, and i contained significant concessions to Republicans, including tax cuts.

Far smaller? Do you mean the far-left Statists wanted run us off a cliff even faster?
Tax cuts? What tax cuts?

The health care bill doesn’t even include a public option.

Only because of people’s opposition to it with the knowledge that it would destroy the Healthcare system.

Oh and taking over 18% of the economy is also called Socialism or Statism

He’s actually been more hawkish than the Bush administration in Afghanistan.
So what is it?
crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Again only in your fevered mind – how many troops were originally requested?
How long did it take Obama to make a decision on that?

What’s the idea, anyone to the right of Stalin, Lenin, Mao or Hitler isn’t far Left?

Juno77 on January 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Instead of spinning today, the Dem’s might be better served by replacing Pelosi and Reid.

GarandFan on January 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

And….it took this election for Bayh to come out and say this? We’ve been telling the Dems this message in the tea parties and town hall meetings all last year. But, we were looney toons to the media AND the Democratic party (oh, I forgot, they are one in the same).

Hhmmm…they really believed we were crazy. Maybe we were visionary.

manateespirit on January 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

OK Bayh . . . so become an independent or a Republican and extract yourself from those left wing radicals. Put you money where your mouth is.

***

The health care bill doesn’t even include a public option.

He’s actually been more hawkish than the Bush administration in Afghanistan.

So what is it?

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

He’s a Marxist, fool . . . do you understand the implications?

rplat on January 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM

[unseen on January 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM]

True, but there should be some distinction. I respect the honesty of the furthest left elements that are open in their beliefs and intentions to the scammers, like Bayh, who are constantly trying to disguise them.

Dusty on January 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM

chemman on January 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM

are = aren’t. Chemman engage brain before fingers next time.

chemman on January 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Lanny is part of the problem! He is a FAR left wacko. Next, Obama will concur as though he too stands as a moderate Dem.

Senator Bayh; wasnt he a YEA on ObamaCare? He’s part of it all.

“I consider myself a modern progressive” said Hillary Clinton in a debate last year.

They all fit the mold. They are headed for the hills folks. They ditched “liberal” now they are set to ditch “progressive” …This is great.

OSUBuciz1 on January 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM

The health care bill doesn’t even include a public option.

He’s actually been more hawkish than the Bush administration in Afghanistan.

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

- $2 trillion deficit,
- $2.6 trillion budget,
- $787 billion non-stimulating stimulus,
- $unlimited TARP,
- Gitmo,
- Federal trials and civilian rights for battlefield detainees,
- ObamaCare (not his fault that congress hasn’t been able to pass this POS/Socialist bill yet — he proposed it and he is pressing for it, even now)
- Crap and Trade (not dead yet),
- Energy policy (1960s environmental leftism),
- blizzard of non-congressionally-approved “Czars”,
- blizzard of rank leftists appointed to government (don’t make me list them – they’re leftists),
- Afghanistan?! Don’t make me laugh. He let soldiers die in Afghanistan without sufficient help for several months, while playing socialism games in Washington and ignoring his new Commander, McChrystal. Hawkish, my ass. He got trapped by his own irresponsible rhetoric or he would have turned and run like the sissy that he is.

Jaibones on January 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Does Bayh really think we’re this stupid? His ACU rating is in the low 20’s–nothing independet or moderate about those numbers.

ConservativeTony on January 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Bayh is guilty of trying to have it both ways. He made his reputation as a moderate but veered left with the party because he had aspirations of becoming a player. Dreams of being nominated for VP if not someday the Presidency itself. The fact that he cautions extremism only after a stunning defeat makes him into a hypocrite too since he wasn’t out there warning that the Obamacare bill was going too far. In fact he, Jim Webb, and some of these other neo-Cassandra Democrats had no problem with any of this until the process got derailed last night. You can take anything they said accordingly. Were it not for Brown’s victory, Bayh would cheerfully sign on to whatever the final bill looked like after ping pong legislation.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Oh, and GM.

Jaibones on January 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Here’s one Indiana voter who can’t wait to vote against Bayh. He may talk a good game, but he’s an enabler of the far-left agenda he supposedly denounces. And his speech at the ’08 DNC convention was insulting.

IU_Conservative on January 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM

This is what the teapartiers and town hall meetings have been telling the Dems all year. It took this election for the “moderate” Democrats to understand the message? Jeez, just how dim are the dems?

We were called lots of names the last year. Visionary wasn’t one of them. Add THAT ADJECTIVE to the list.

manateespirit on January 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Obama abdicated his agenda to Pelosi, either because he secretly supported a far-Left agenda

There was no f’n “secret”

Caper29 on January 20, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Juno77 on January 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

There are so many blatant factual inaccuracies, lies and obfuscations in this post that it’s almost foolish of me to spend my time trying to correct them buuuut, I’ll be charitable and educate you a bit today.

1. You purposefully admitted the part of my post where I said McCain would have done the same thing, knowing that it invalidates your point that Obama is some sort of “far leftist”
2.Tax cuts in the stimulus bill constituted nearly 40% of the package. All in all there were about 288 billion dollars in tax cuts included in the bill.
3. Polls have consistently shown high public support for the public option, including this one here. Previous polls showed even higher support, some in the excess of 70%.
4. Obama has now raised the troop levels in Afghanistan twice. He has been much more hawkish than his predecessor, and much more committed to destroying the terrorist threat there. McCrystal asked for way more troops than he himself thought he actually needed, and Obama gave him roughly the amount he wanted. This very website acknowledged that.

I eagerly await your apology, and retractions. I hope you learned a lesson today little one.

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Instead of spinning today, the Dem’s might be better served by replacing Pelosi and Reid.

GarandFan on January 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Or at least show some honesty. Nothing destroys credibility more than these idiots who are out there today claiming that yesterday’s election was nothing more than a “local” contest with no real impact on the national level.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM

You purposefully admitted omitted the part of my post where I said McCain would have done the same thing, knowing that it invalidates your point that Obama is some sort of “far leftist”

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Too little, too late.

Mirimichi on January 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

There was no f’n “secret”

[Caper29 on January 20, 2010 at 12:50 PM]

No, there wasn’t. He just wants to maintain plausible deniability every time he crashes the bus.

“Sorry about that, but I hit a big bump in the road!”

Dusty on January 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

To quote the great American, Joe Wilson- You lie.

I’m sick of people like you who make these lies up (ref #1-4 of your post) and then keep repeating them over and over again as if they were truths. For example, Obama didn’t offer tax cuts in the stimulus bill, he raised taxes on the segment of society who pays 90% of all taxes and spent it on the non-producers who don’t pay taxes. That’s called wealth redistribution in the socialist model, not a tax cut.

In short, stop lying.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Or at least show some honesty. Nothing destroys credibility more than these idiots who are out there today claiming that yesterday’s election was nothing more than a “local” contest with no real impact on the national level.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM

It has an impact on the national level, but the result was obviously more a product of Coakley’s epic ineptitude than anything else. Only a filthy, lying, idiot-coward like you would think otherwise.

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM

OK, Evan, happy you finally got your wake-up call!

Now, what the heck are you going to do about the situation?

pilamaye on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

NOTHING…I don’t think the Jersey Shore is in Bayh’s district;)

Laura in Maryland on January 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Speaking of populist backlash….what’s the alternative to Rick Perry of Kay Bailey Hutchinson?

http://www.medinafortexas.com/

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM

And….it took this election for Bayh to come out and say this? We’ve been telling the Dems this message in the tea parties and town hall meetings all last year. But, we were looney toons to the media AND the Democratic party (oh, I forgot, they are one in the same).

Hhmmm…they really believed we were crazy. Maybe we were visionary.

manateespirit on January 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM
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no they didn’t believe we were crazy. They thought their toadies in the MSM and their leftist org. like ACORN, unions and moveon.org could silence the messege and keep it from spreading. That march on DC drew almost a million people. Oh they knew damn well. They thought they could “Alinsky” the messege. That’s why they all voted for healtchare, clunkers, cap and trade. That includes Bayh. Now it’s clear with this election that they can’t alinsky the messege so they are backtracking. If they stil lthought they could kill the messege of the town halls nad tea parties, they would not be trying to save their own butts by back tracking. You fool no one Evan. You knew but you thought you could get away with it. Only thing that has changed is you realize you can’t get away with it YOU.ARE.TOAST.IN.2010

Niteowl45 on January 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM

crr6 January 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

But..but…but… he keeps losing. Your magnificently pragmatic and centrist messiah keeps losing. Elections, support, love.

He must not be getting his message out. Or people must be too stupid to understand. Or it must be all those Hollywood movies attacking Hopenchange. Or it must be that monolothic mainstream conservative media with all their propagandizing and lying.

Oh, the lamentations of the leftist.

rrpjr on January 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

NAFTA superhighway
Main article: NAFTA superhighway
Interstate 29 and Interstate 35.

The Trans-Texas Corridor was first proposed by Texas Governor Rick Perry in 2002. Scroll Down… See More

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

Who voted for the confirmation of the tax cheat Timothy Geithner? Hint: She Is running as if she is a Conservative for Governor of Texas. I think it would be better if she stayed in the US Senate.

Kay Bailey Hutchinson Voted for the 1st TARP!

http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2009/10/reality_check_t.html

The Democrats understand just how weak these two Republican candidates are especially given the Populist Wave that has spread all over TEXAS….

Who Suxs RINOS Sux!

Maybe this We have an alternative….A Conservative Insurgent ;)

http://www.medinafortexas.com/

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

I cannot wait to put a “Bye Bye Bayh” bumper sticker on my car here in Indiana. I would love to campaign for Pence!

froginthesky on January 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Juno77 on January 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

There are so many blatant factual inaccuracies, lies and obfuscations in this post that it’s almost foolish of me to spend my time trying to correct them buuuut, I’ll be charitable and educate you a bit today.
1.You purposefully admitted the part of my post where I said McCain would have done the same thing, knowing that it invalidates your point that Obama is some sort of “far leftist”

How is that a FACT?

2.Tax cuts in the stimulus bill constituted nearly 40% of the package. All in all there were about 288 billion dollars in tax cuts included in the bill.

I guess that really depends on how you define the word ‘tax cuts’ doesn’t it?

3. Polls have consistently shown high public support for the public option, including this one here. Previous polls showed even higher support, some in the excess of 70%.

Consistently? What are the latest numbers?
And if it was rated so highly, why didn’t the Democrats keep it in the bill?

4. Obama has now raised the troop levels in Afghanistan twice. He has been much more hawkish than his predecessor, and much more committed to destroying the terrorist threat there. McCrystal asked for way more troops than he himself thought he actually needed, and Obama gave him roughly the amount he wanted. This very website acknowledged that.

I eagerly await your apology, and retractions. I hope you learned a lesson today little one.
crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Opinions Aren’t facts

“McCrystal asked for way more troops than he himself thought he actually needed”

How do you KNOW that?

Juno77 on January 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Related parody: Blue Dog Members Alarmed As Full Body Scans of Democratic Leaders Reveal Possible Political Suicide Plot http://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/01/blue-dog-members-alarmed-as-full-body.html

Mervis Winter on January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

notice trolls on sites everywhere that aren’t lefty sites are strangely silent. They haven’t recieved their memo of talking points from Obama on the election loss yet. It hadn’t been written and they have no clue what to say. Axelrod is scribbling furiously to get the talking points out. But there is no way for them to spin it without sounding like total morons. it was Obama and his handlers that made it a huge deal that this infact was a referendum on healthcare and his administration

Niteowl45 on January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Unfortunately, Bayh is my senator. I believe him to be extremely vulnerable, especially to someone like Mike Pence (See Michelle Malkin’s squib about Mike P – He really would be a great choice).

I’ve given up on trying to communicate with Bayh’s office. No matter what you e-mail, back comes a canned response which has absolutely no bearing upon the topic you wished for him to address.

His e-mails almost without exception are filled with platitudes such as he supports ‘Hoosier values’ (WTF????)and spending cuts, although he has never mentioned spending cuts on the Senate floor since 2008. The mope is a typical liberal who smoothly delivers different lies to different audiences depending upon what he thinks they want to hear. Sort of like John F. Kerry. Need I say more?

alwyr on January 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Laura in Maryland on January 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Heh.

Abby Adams on January 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Bayh is guilty of trying to have it both ways. He made his reputation as a moderate but veered left with the party because he had aspirations of becoming a player. Dreams of being nominated for VP if not someday the Presidency itself.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Exactly. Bayh is a backstabbing weasel who believes in nothing except what can get him the most votes.

Now he’s trying to play double-agent to conservatives as an epic round of incompetence threatens to brings the libtards’ agenda crashing down around their ears. I doubt he’ll manage to fool any of you, or too many of his former supposed constituents.

Dark-Star on January 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

alwyr on January 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Sorry to hear he is your Senator. I believe he waited to see the outcome of last night’s Race in Massachusetts, and immediately went into political butt covering mode…which is telling in itself.

When the Tea Party Movement got under full swing down here, our Gov Perry got the message…he even started talking secession….Politicians running scared from their electorate? YES and they should be scared.

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Are you in Texas too? Medina is gaining some traction. She has some interesting ideas and really did well in her first debate; enough to generate an additional ‘look’. Her second debate is coming up on…Thursday? I need to check that…

Yellowdog12 on January 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Obama to Nationalize Student Lending with Pending Budget Bill

LINK

Chip on January 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM

It has an impact on the national level, but the result was obviously more a product of Coakley’s epic ineptitude than anything else. Only a filthy, lying, idiot-coward like you would think otherwise.

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Nice, you don’t even know why I call Obama a filthy lying coward so your hurled insults make no sense when you use them as a personal attack. Context, much like content, matters and you are woefully bereft of either.

So Brown’s win in meaningless outside the Bay State, eh? Why then are Dems running scared? Why was this race meaningless and the election of a Dem in NY-23 hailed as the only national election (on the night that the filthy lying coward in the White House lost NJ and VA to the GOP)? NY-23 can’t be a national election without this Senate race having the same status.

highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Yellowdog12 on January 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Yes I am in Texas, and right now I am looking at a hold my nose and vote for Perry moment LOL!

I’d rather vote for a real conservative.

Hutchinson should stay in D.C. apparently she has gotten used to the taste of what they cook up there ;)

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Evan Buh Bayh is my senator and Mike Pence is my congressman. I’d rather see Mike be the Speaker of the House than just another senator. Greg Garrison (who took over Mike’s radio program when Mike ran for Congress) mentioned today that some people wanted him (Garrison) to run against Buh Bayh. It sounded like the the deadline to run is gone or very soon, so it’s unlikely Pence will run. We have good conservatives that are going to run in the Senate race.

Buh Bayh’s usual routine is to vote for cloture and then vote against the final bill so he can come home and say he opposed it.

darwin-t on January 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Just remember folks:

Merriam-Webster online Dictionary Definition: Socialism
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary: Statism
Date: 1919
Concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry.

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
(National Socialist German Workers Party)

Take Note the word ‘Socialist’ in there.

Juno77 on January 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Context, much like content, matters and you are woefully bereft of either.
highhopes on January 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Ok, whatever you say, “random wingnut who calls our President a filthy lying coward on internet message boards”.

Juno77 on January 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Still waiting on that apology.

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM

crr6 on January 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

You wouldn’t know a factual accuracy if it sat down in your lap.

MarkTheGreat on January 20, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Dr Evil on January 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM

AGREED! Hutchinson couldn’t defend herself and I wasn’t impressed with Perry. We’ll have to keep our eyes and ears open on Medina. She was up to 12% per Rasmussen a couple of days ago (though based on Ras’s number for Brown that may really mean she’s at 31% – SNORT!).

Yellowdog12 on January 20, 2010 at 1:38 PM

in 2008, Barack Obama added something extra: a commitment to a “new politics” that transcended the “red” versus “blue” partisan divide

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He certainly accomplished that by just eliminating the red divide and replacing it with red ink!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

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