Weiner: ObamaCare “dead” if Brown wins

posted at 10:12 am on January 19, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Republicans have argued that a Scott Brown victory today would stop ObamaCare in its tracks. Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi insist that it won’t. On today’s “Morning Joe,” Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) agreed with Republicans, saying that he would have a “difficult time” voting for what he sees as an inferior Senate bill:

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) is the latest pessimist on the Democratic side of the aisle, saying health care may be “dead” if Republican Scott Brown wins the Massachusetts Senate race.

“I think you can make a pretty good argument that health care might be dead,” Weiner said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

Weiner, one of the House’s more progressive members, said “it’s going to be very hard” to ask members of the House to vote for the Senate bill – what some believe would be a likely scenario if Democrats lose the Massachusetts Senate seat. …

“I’d have a very difficult time doing that,” Weiner said about voting “yes” to the Senate’s bill.

Weiner is an advocate for a single-payer system, and has argued for “Medicare for all” as a solution to health-care reform. His “difficulties” stem from the stripping of the Trojan-horse public option in the Senate and the Cadillac tax that penalizes union benefits along with so-called “fat-cat” packages. He, along with his progressive allies, want significant changes in the ObamaCare bill that they’re no longer likely to see, or to call a halt to the whole enterprise.

Of course, other Democrats are likely to take other lessons from the debacle in Massachusetts, which we’ll cover later.


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If Brown wins, it is dead.

The House does not have the votes for the Senate bill, otherwise they would have just accepted it already rather than trying to reconcile the two bills.

And if they think they’re going to get a vote for it after a Brown win… they’re crazy. They’ll be lucky if 40+ Dems in the House, and 5+ Dems in the Senate don’t drop all support for all their liberal legislation in an attempt to save their careers.

Enoxo on January 19, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Fired UP,

Ready to Go!!

canopfor on January 19, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Jon Stewart skewers the dems about Mass

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-18-2010/mass-backwards?xrs=rss_tdsvids

windansea on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

WOOO! Around the bowl and down the hole!

GO BROWN GO!

Er…. yeah.

Red Cloud on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

health care may be “dead” if Republican Scott Brown wins the Massachusetts Senate race.

Good riddance.

Please help the Scott Brown for Senate campaign.

Juno77 on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

This Weiner dork is perfectly named.

bradley11 on January 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM

All this, of course, is contingent on Crybaby George not jumping ship.

As AP said about a month ago, “We all know how this terrible, terrible story ends.”

KingGold on January 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM

market up, good sign. Everybody knows the market knows first and a Brown win is good for the market.

Oh those evildoers on wall street.

booter on January 19, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Paging Mr. Weiner. Paging Mr. Weiner. Mr. Weiner, please report immediately to the Speaker’s office.

petefrt on January 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Er, why is Coakley rising on Intrade?

Enoxo on January 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM

What’s up with Zogby? I heard him on Hannity yesterday saying the same thing.
Gosh, I hope he’s proven wrong!

parteagirl on January 19, 2010 at 10:21 AM

just telling it like it is!

cmsinaz on January 19, 2010 at 10:21 AM

If Scott Brown wins, how many Blue Dogs from redder-than-Mass districts will bail on ObamaCare, to save their jobs for 2011? Will some of them wake up and say, “the voters are PO’d, and it’s time to listen to them”?

Steve Z on January 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM

If Brown wins,its the end of Obama`s Presidentcy,
and a DoomsDay scenario for the Liberal Party,it
will all most be a mandate against Obama`s Agenda,
and a rejection of the direction of where Obama is
trying to take America!

It means,Obama has squandred a full year,accomplishing
nothing!!

And,the outcome today,can affect The State of the Union
Address,in which Team Obama has nothing to show the Amer
ican people,

accept,for a 13 Trillion Dollar Debt!!

canopfor on January 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM

ObamaCare is far from dead.

These people are communists, and they have been working towards a government takeover of our health care system for 100 years.

If you think they are going to give up due to the loss of one Senate vote, you are mistaken.

This lunacy could very possibly be signed into law without another congressional vote.

Dave R. on January 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Uhh…why should Weiner even look to Mass. to think about his vote?

How about looking to his own constituents???

bridgetown on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

PLEASE SEND SCOTT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOR LEGAL CHALLENGES

OmahaConservative on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Let’s go Brown! Call family and friends in Massachusetts to GOTV for Scott Brown.

cubachi on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Beck sums up the MA election consequences:

If Coakley wins, it’s the ‘progressives’ against the Republicans.

If Brown wins, it’s the ‘progressives’ against the Democrat party.

petefrt on January 19, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Er, why is Coakley rising on Intrade?

Enoxo on January 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Probably a combination of Zogby’s prediction and people realizing that it’s Massachusetts, a one-party state.

Red Cloud on January 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM

This health care bill has had to many lives as it is, lets hope Brown kills it forever.

fourdeucer on January 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Sometime this week, the Democrats are going to have to make time to extend the debt limit.

If the Republicans are smart (yea, I know), they should be able to draw this out 3 or 4 days.

MarkTheGreat on January 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Er, why is Coakley rising on Intrade?

Enoxo on January 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM

I noticed that too. C’mon, Mass. you can doo eeeet!

Weight of Glory on January 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM

We’ve heard this before only to see enslavement care advance again and again.

The radicals have invested a great deal, they aren’t going to give up easily in fact they will never give up.

Evil never rests.

Speakup on January 19, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Well, don’t be so fast.

Michelle Malkin has discovered another idea for 60 Senate Votes for Obamacare:

The 60th could be: OHIO’S VOINOVICH!

Is George Voinovich going to screw the GOP on health care?

He “could” be. But MM said that we would have to wait after his meeting with the “Spender-In-Chief”.

TheAlamos on January 19, 2010 at 10:29 AM

windansea on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Wow! Thats like watching a liberal have a nervous breakdown right in front of your eyes! too funny!

Mord on January 19, 2010 at 10:32 AM

OmahaConservative on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Please, it’s too early in the morning to start drinking.

Tommy_G on January 19, 2010 at 10:32 AM

I wish I could believe that a Brown win would kill OCare, but I don’t. When Nan says that one way or another it’s going to go through, I’m afraid her prediction is accurate. If Brown wins though, we stand a chance of some modification right now and much, much more in 2010.

jeanie on January 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Brown has to win by 5 points or more. Otherwise the Democrats deploy the lawyer brigade and ballot box fixers (see: Minnesota). Do not expect them to play by the rules.

miles on January 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Sometime this week, the Democrats are going to have to make time to extend the debt limit.

If the Republicans are smart (yea, I know), they should be able to draw this out 3 or 4 days.
MarkTheGreat on January 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM

If only…

Monica on January 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM

ObamaCare dead, sounds like a Weiner to me.

farright on January 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM

He, along with his progressive National Socialist Democrat allies, want significant changes in the ObamaCare bill that they’re no longer likely to see, or to call a halt to the whole enterprise.

FIFY

Chip on January 19, 2010 at 10:36 AM

Weiner, one of the House’s more progressive members

That’s akin to saying that Robert Byrd is one of the more elderly members of the Senate.

If Brown wins tonight, it certainly will limit the Dems abilty to bully healthcare into existence. Which IMO unfortunately means that the Dems are going to steal this election no matter what it takes. The stakes are too high for Obama to allow a legitimate election left up to “voters.” Liberals think that the voters are just too damned stupid to know what is best for them.

highhopes on January 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM

All this, of course, is contingent on Crybaby George not jumping ship.

I just talked to his office. They are saying that the meeting is NOT about health care, but about the spiraling national debt.

KeepOhioRed on January 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM

not to be the pessimist here…but these people are so committed to a socialist country that I don’t think even a Brown win (as unlikely as that seemed) will stop them from cramming it down our throats. Hope I am wrong.

search4truth on January 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Just heard on FOX that absentee ballot requests went WAY WAY up in the last week or so…

I smell ACORN.

katy on January 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Jon Stewart skewers the dems about Mass

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-18-2010/mass-backwards?xrs=rss_tdsvids

windansea on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Wow. As obnoxiously tilted as that was, it was still hilariously funny.

Count to 10 on January 19, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Just heard on FOX that absentee ballot requests went WAY WAY up in the last week or so…

I smell ACORN.

katy on January 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM

ACORN got the brothel permits and the absentee ballots mixed up.

MeatHeadinCA on January 19, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Sometime this week, the Democrats are going to have to make time to extend the debt limit.

If the Republicans are smart (yea, I know), they should be able to draw this out 3 or 4 days.

MarkTheGreat on January 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Mitch McConnell got this from Harry Reid in exchange for allowing an ealier vote on Christmas Eve for ObamaCare. Now Reid is not going to get his health care bill and he is going to have to watch a 3-day debate on the debt limit right at the time the President is delivering his SOTU.

LOL

rockmom on January 19, 2010 at 10:44 AM

In contrast to the light turnout for the party primaries last month, both candidates expected heavy a turnout following the national attention thrust upon their race. There was a clear sign at one polling place: A line of cars stretched for nearly a half-mile from the gymnasium at North Andover High School, the polling place for a community of about 30,000 about a half-hour north of Boston.

Urban Infidel on January 19, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Uhh…why should Weiner even look to Mass. to think about his vote?

How about looking to his own constituents???

bridgetown on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Eeewwww. Why should the nobility have to look at the serfs?

rbj on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

When did we start believing liberals like this guy?
He says what we want to hear, and it makes sense, but it is full of equivocation. He says he would have a “difficult time” voting for it, but didn’t Ben Nelson have a difficult time, at least for awhile?

GaltBlvnAtty on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

They are saying that the meeting is NOT about health care, but about the spiraling national debt.

KeepOhioRed on January 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Which Obama has told us over and over again, only passing his health care plan, can fix.

/sarc

MarkTheGreat on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Just In: Martha Coakley predicts victory in tight election

OmahaConservative on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

OmahaConservative on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Please, it’s too early in the morning to start drinking.
Tommy_G on January 19, 2010 at 10:32 AM

That can be water or orange juice you know.
Speaking of which:

Please help the Scott Brown for Senate campaign.

Juno77 on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

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John Kerry Draws Epic Crowd In Worcester
=======================================

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======================
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Hit The Road

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canopfor on January 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM

RINO Voinovich is getting deluged with calls about his meeting w/Obama today. His staff is trying hard to reassure Ohioans that no Obamacare deal is in the offing.

Do. Not. Trust. Him. EVER.

Keep calling.

OhioCoastie on January 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM

katy on January 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM

I honestly don’t think that ACORN or any other organization will be able to affect this election at this point. There simply not enough time ofr them to be very effective. The sheer arrogance of every Dem assuming a double digit win with no effort has failed their system with regard to elections that are close. ACORN might be able to toss some legal bombs after the fact if Brown does win, but their usual operating mode takes a significant amount of time to gear up.

Johnnyreb on January 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM

If Brown wins…when Brown wins, I think the Dems will crawl back under a rock and wait till we forget about it. Then they will revive it.

Vigilance!

PattyJ on January 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM

Not for sure, but it sure will suffer a mortal wound.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM

“I’d have a very difficult time doing that,” Weiner said about voting “yes” to the Senate’s bill.

For about the 8th day in a row I will state, the only question tomorrow from politicians, if Brown wins will be:
How do I keep my job?
They will care less about anything else; they will sacrifice everything we have, but nothing that they have.

right2bright on January 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

It is already dead, they just haven’t had the burial service yet.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

I spoke with a staffer in Voinovich’s Cleveland office, and he said Voinovich is not going to change his vote on health care, but is meeting with Obama about the national debt. I told him I don’t believe him or trust Voinovich, and he better not think that because he’s retiring, he can leave the rest of us with this pile of crap legislation. We’ll see, but I’m getting my pitchfork ready just in case.

Ohiogal on January 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

They are saying that the meeting is NOT about health care, but about the spiraling national debt.

KeepOhioRed on January 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM

I don’t buy it. The filthy lying coward in the White House has invested all his political capital on healthcare. That all is on the brink of failure if the Mass. Senate race doesn’t go to the liberal Democrat. Obama has shut the GOP out from virtually every aspect of the legislative process as he and his co-conspirators in Congress craft one partisan spending spree after another. Voinovich is only getting a royal audience this morning to see what it will cost for betraying one’s party and becoming a political Judas.

highhopes on January 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM

Juno77 on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

I have be put properly in my place.

Tommy_G on January 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM

How do I keep my job?

right2bright on January 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Offer to work for less than you currently are.

Count to 10 on January 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM

Shrunk Weiner.

RobCon on January 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Urban Infidel on January 19, 2010 at 10:44 AM

We will know or at least an indication of who was in those cars, in a couple of hours…if it is the dem machinery, then we lose…if it is a fired up Brown base, we win.

right2bright on January 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Offer to work for less than you currently are.

Count to 10 on January 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM

No, lowering the wage of a congressman isn’t the answer…they will have to finally listen to the people, what a strange concept for them.

right2bright on January 19, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Regarding Intrade-
The Corner reports it’s Brown backers selling to take profits.
That said, ACORN isn’t going quietly- the request for a ton of absentee ballots smells fishy.
C’mon Mass.- you can do it! Roll up a big lead.

jjshaka on January 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Weiner is a jerk of extra-ordinary magnitude.

Geronimo on January 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Waterloo!

I have renewed respect for my friends in Mass.

jeff_from_mpls on January 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Hey Ed. How ’bout an election day open thread?

BacaDog on January 19, 2010 at 10:56 AM

I´d say wait until the votes are counted in Mass. before everyone starts celebrating.

If Coakley does win, Obama, Pelosi and the rest (the press) will be claiming this shows the American people want Obamacare. And everyone on the Republican side will look not so good.

albill on January 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM

windansea on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

That was hysterical!!! Thanks for the link!

lovingmyUSA on January 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM

It’s safe to bet the farm that Axelrod, ?emmanuel and Obama have give the marching orders to ACORN to do whatever and for Eric Holder to turn his head. That is a given with hopey changey the transparent won

bluegrass on January 19, 2010 at 10:58 AM

CNBC’s Jim Cramer said yesterday: Brown Win Tuesday Causes Huge Stock Rally As Investors Celebrate ‘Pelosi Politburo Emasculation’
Take a look at the stock market. It’s already begun.They see Brown winning (and Obama losing) which is good for business.

J_Crater on January 19, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Way too much riding on this now and it’s all out in the open. You can bet your socks that the criminals on the left have been working 24/7 to figure out how to cheat, lie and steal this election and they will do whatever it takes.

How bad, how awful does a demorat candidate need to be before a liberal refuses to vote for them? Coakley is one of the worst I have ever seen and yet she still garners support; it boggles my mind.

Bishop on January 19, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Why would Emperor Obama host a notorious RINO Senator to talk about the national debt today, when the precious 60th vote for Obamacare is about to slip away? Obama doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the national debt. Obamacare is his most treasured initiative.

Voinovich may be foolish enough to think he’s got an audience with The One to talk about deficits, but do any of you think Obama will pass up a chance to pour honey in this RINO’s ear?

OhioCoastie on January 19, 2010 at 11:00 AM

This Weiner dork is perfectly named.

bradley11 on January 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM

I used to live in the area he represents, and know him that way for 20 years. Have met him/been in same locale as him many times. He’s a younger Schumer, similar m.o.

But don’t be fooled. This is what socialists/communists look like in America. He is dangerous. Under-estimate him and his fellow travelers at your peril.

JiangxiDad on January 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Jon Stewart skewers the dems about Mass

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-18-2010/mass-backwards?xrs=rss_tdsvids

windansea on January 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM

OMG, the mother of all ironies. So funny but all based in fact.

Geochelone on January 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM

OmahaConservative on January 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Please, it’s too early in the morning to start drinking.

Tommy_G on January 19, 2010 at 10:32 AM

It’s all his fault! He made put that whiskey in my coffee….

lovingmyUSA on January 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM

I though abentee balloting was done already and 8 or 9 % voted absentee going strongly Brown. This was reported over the weekend.

Can they request absentee ballots til next week? Send me ten more for Brown! To IA

dhunter on January 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Juno77 on January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

I have be put properly in my place.
Tommy_G on January 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it that way.

Maybe I should put it this way: One can drink a toast to a Scott Brown win later on, Tonight?

Okay?

Juno77 on January 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM

Well, now HOLD ON.

HEALTH CARE won’t be dead – just the attempted takeover of the health care industry by the neo-Marxists in the Obama administration and in congress like this Weiner weasel.

THAT will be dead.

HEALTH CARE will actually be fine: The United States will continue to have the world’s best health care system; pricier than it has to be, yes… in need of some reform, yes… but HEALTH CARE will most certainly not be “dead.”

greggriffith on January 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM

canopfor on January 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM

That is great–he drew 150 people for his rally???? Can’t wait for 2010!!!!

lovingmyUSA on January 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Voinovich may be foolish enough to think he’s got an audience with The One to talk about deficits, but do any of you think Obama will pass up a chance to pour honey in this RINO’s ear?

I thought the same thing. I don’t trust him, but this is not an issue he has wavered on.

It is true that the Senate must vote to raise the debt ceiling soon, so perhaps it really is about the debt.

That said, I can’t wait until we have Portman in there, and Voinovich is gone.

KeepOhioRed on January 19, 2010 at 11:12 AM

It’s all his fault! He made put that whiskey in my coffee….

lovingmyUSA on January 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM

LOL!

Mind yer liver.

OmahaConservative on January 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM

The House already had a fragile coalition of supporters, and the House bill passed by only TWO votes. If Brown wins, does anyone REALLY think that the House will maintain its two-vote majority in order to pass the Senate version?

The “progressives” hate the Senate bill, but they WILL vote for it, even if they have to hold their nose to do it. The “Blue Dogs” (or, as I prefer, “lap dogs”) will lose at least two votes if (a) Brown wins and (b) they are presented with the Senate version.

Honestly, I think even if Brown loses a close one, that will be enough to scare at least two House Dems out of voting for the Senate bill.

crushliberalism on January 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Let’s be honest, shall we? This mutt’s a Democrat. He will vote YES on anything his party puts in front of him, no matter how crap-tastic it is.

pabarge on January 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Congressman Anthony Weiner still gets mail that says, “You may already be a Weiner!”

Emperor Norton on January 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Heh. Dude’s name is “Weiner”, and he looks like Beavis.

Who the hell voted for this guy? Oh….NY.

connertown on January 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM

I posted this last night on another thread, and I’m sticking with it today.

Tomorrow, or very soon, Nancy Pelosi is going to call up Rahm Emanuel and tell him to take his Senate bill and shove it. She did everything she was supposed to do on this legislation, and delivered a bill before Thanksgiving that included virtually everything Obama campaigned on and said he wanted in a bill, with no special deals for South Florida or Nebraska and no giant tax on union health care plans. She got the progressives to swallow a hard prohibition on federal funds for abortion and got the pro-life southern Dems to vote for a very leftwing bill as a result. It really was a huge accomplishment for her as Speaker.

Does Rahm really expect Nancy to walk away from that to just accept a bill that Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson wrote? Does he expect a California Speaker to support a bill that bails out Nebraska but will cost California billions? And why? Because the White House and the Democratic Party could not hold on to Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat!! How is that her fault or the fault of any of her members? Why should they now have to walk a plank?

This White House has given Pelosi the back of its hand since they took office. She carried all their water on the Porkulus, on cap-and-trade, and now on health care. I simply do not believe that she is going to take this Senate crap sandwich of a bill and tell her members to shut up and vote for it. I believe she is going to say “enough!”

Maybe it will finally dawn on her that Barack Obama hates her and will not give her credit for anything that happens.

rockmom on January 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM

These dumb ass Democrats just don’t get it. Whether Brown wins or not, THE PULBIC IS NOT BUYING THE MESSAGE!

Keep it up until November. You’ll hear us then.

GarandFan on January 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Please God, let Scott Brown win!

Esmerelda on January 19, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Please ignore.
Testing, 123…..

Mallard T. Drake on January 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Consider the irony of this situation: For years we have bitched about how the Massachusetts voters kept sending Kennedy back to the Senate time and time again. Kennedy was the champion of the universal healthcare movement, which would do so much damage to our country. However, it appears that the Massachusetts voters are going to send Scott Brown to the Senate to save the country by killing the liberal health care reform debacle.

Good job, Bay Staters!

Mallard T. Drake on January 19, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Consider the irony of this situation: For years we have complained about how the Massachusetts voters kept sending Kennedy back to the Senate time and time again. Kennedy was the champion of the universal healthcare movement, which would do so much damage to our country. However, it appears that the Massachusetts voters are going to send Scott Brown to the Senate to save the country by killing the liberal health care reform debacle.

Good job, Bay Staters!

Mallard T. Drake on January 19, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Anybody who says it’s dead if Brown wins doesn’t know the Left.

rrpjr on January 19, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Maybe it will finally dawn on her that Barack Obama hates her and will not give her credit for anything that happens.

rockmom on January 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM

He doesn’t hate her; he just uses her. Like the old white granny who raised him and sacrificed for him, Pelosi is just another “typical white person” who only exists to serve Barry’s needs. Barry couldn’t care less what it costs them. It’s all about the O. Always has been, in his narcissistic, megalomaniacal mind, and always will be.

AZCoyote on January 19, 2010 at 12:33 PM

This guy is Chuck Schumer in waiting. I think he even won the house seat held by Chuckles. He’s probably trying to sound good but will toe the line if called on.

“Politics is Hollywood for the Ugly”–Rush Limbaugh

2rightwings on January 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Okay, will someone explain this “cadillac tax” to me? I honestly do not understand how anyone would think it is a good thing. Help me think like a lefty, please. We can both shower later. :)

Bob's Kid on January 19, 2010 at 12:55 PM

A cornered animal is a dangerous animal. If Dems are cornered what do they do? Obama’s agenda my eventually go down but between now and then they can do so much damage.

petunia on January 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM

rockmom on January 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Yes–but. Pelosi is a true believer on all these things. This is her agenda as much or more than Obama’s. So who is carrying water for whom?

And Scott Brown is winning because of Pelosi’s agenda. So it is as much her fault as anyone’s that the country is rejecting the totalitarianism of Democratic politics.

petunia on January 19, 2010 at 1:03 PM

How many Liberals want to lose their jobs in their next election, whether in 2010 or 2012? There’s your answer on whether or not this will pass.

Sultry Beauty on January 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM

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