New excuse for not seating Brown: Biden’s out of town
posted at 3:20 pm on January 19, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The excuses for Democrats not to seat Scott Brown if he wins today’s special election to replace Ted Kennedy in the Senate have become rather threadbare. As CQ Politics reports, now Democrats insist that they can’t give Brown the oath of office until VP Joe Biden, also President of the Senate, is available to give the oath of office to Brown. The only trouble with that excuse is that it’s flatly false:
The office of Majority Leader Harry Reid says there will be no attempt to swear in a new senator until Massachusetts gets all the right paperwork to Washington. Appointed Sen. Paul G. Kirk Jr. , a Democrat, in the meantime will keep the job and cast the votes. “When there is a certified winner in Massachusetts, the Senate has received appropriate papers, and the Vice President is available, the successor to Sens. Kennedy and Kirk will be sworn in,” said Regan Lachapelle, a Reid, D-Nev., spokeswoman.
Actually, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. isn’t essential to the process, even though he is president of the Senate; there’s plenty of precedent for a swearing-in to be handled by substitutes.
What’s next? Do they expect the Senate dog to eat the paperwork, too?
Brown supporters have pointed out that the House had no problem rushing Niki Tsongas into her seat after a special election win. Democrats needed Tsongas to override a veto, and so allowed her to take the oath of office with a statement from Deval Patrick and William Galvin that she had “appeared” to win the election. However, CQ notes that the Senate and House have different rules — and that Republicans demanded that Harry Reid wait to seat Al Franken until he had received the proper certification, which he did. That seems to be the clearer precedent, and is certainly a fair point — assuming Massachusetts doesn’t delay certification.
It will take about 15 days at the longest for certification to occur, especially if the margin of victory makes recounts or challenges moot. First, let’s see if Brown wins, and the margin of victory if he does. Anything above two points would mean certification should be a pro forma exercise, and an inauguration ceremony just as routine. The excuse-making has become rather pathetic.









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They will seat him. The public will create a lynching czar if they don’t.
We’re done with this nonsense, and that includes the GOP.
AnninCA on January 19, 2010 at 3:55 PM
Running down escaped chickens with his Secret Service posse in Sussex County?
Getting his annual plugs’ checkup?
Asleep?
Hiking the Appalachian Trail?
ya2daup on January 19, 2010 at 3:55 PM
TPMDC Poll: If U.S. Voted On MA-Sen, Brown Would Win Big
The comments are funny, but they are too stupid to see they are talking about themselves from 1 year ago.
WoosterOh on January 19, 2010 at 3:56 PM
The funeral was over a week ago in DE. I would guess she was buried in Scranton, PA, which is less than a day’s drive.
Wethal on January 19, 2010 at 3:57 PM
I really hope we don’t have a contentious count… I think America has had enough!
CCRWM on January 19, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Wait a minute… Joe convened an “eyes only” meeting on transparency last week. Did he ever emerge from that meeting?
ya2daup on January 19, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Right. Maybe you haven’t heard, but rules are for sheep.
The state constitution didn’t stop New Jersey from substituting Lautenberg for Torricelli when The Torch was caught red handed taking bribes. Lautenberg was inserted into the race 25 days before the election, even though the state constitution said no changes could be made to the ballot within 45 days of the election.
So why should a simple precedent in MA hold up with this crowd, when the state constitution of NJ was sh*t-canned to hold the seat for a “D”?
iurockhead on January 19, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Here is the Massachusetts law you’re looking for. And here is a good explanation why Kirk should clean out his desk today.
Emperor Norton on January 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM
So the proper honorific by which she is to be addressed isn’t “Senator” or “Ma’am”? It’s “girl?”
ya2daup on January 19, 2010 at 4:02 PM
“SIT!”
BobMbx on January 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM
I know they are liars and cheaters to the core but this would truly be an outrage that I would think at least a few stalwart Dems would say “enough is enough.” I have to hope this is a trial balloon.
Missy on January 19, 2010 at 4:10 PM
Hell, Biden’s out of town even when he’s in town.
unclesmrgol on January 19, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Biden shuck in and out of our town with no one knowing where he was, where he was going and when he was coming. They told us after-wards he was at a closed door fundraiser. Does that sound like what happen to Hillarycare?
tarpon on January 19, 2010 at 4:15 PM
I ran off at the fingers, when typing my previous post, and I admit, I read the article in haste. So I retract my comment about would this have happened when Franken was to be seated.
Sorry. I am my own worst enemy sometimes.
capejasmine on January 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM
I suspect the “out of town” is just a nice way for Dems to tell us, he’s out of his mind! LOL
capejasmine on January 19, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Hey, Dingy Harry!
Exactly how much of the right paperwork did Minnesota have in your hands when you were in such a hurry to get that assclown Franken sworn in?
pilamaye on January 19, 2010 at 4:19 PM
Reid . . . you are such a despicable dirtbag.
rplat on January 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM
I can’t this bunch not having something up their sleeves…
Dr. ZhivBlago on January 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM
Touring 7-11′s?
kringeesmom on January 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Still does not matter, Dims. The Republicans could appeal directly to SCOTUS as to the provisions under the Constitution on the “qualification of…”. Once Brown is the apparent winner Kirk no longer is the legitimate holder of the seat. The Dims then only have 59 and cannot over ride. They could delay Brown for months and it still would not matter.
Dr. Dog on January 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM
Weekly standard had lawyers check it and Kirk is supposed to be all done today.
dogsoldier on January 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM
I hope the Dems realize much of the Western world is watching this election. Any shenanigans could hurt their precious Obowma’s credibility further than he’s done on his own.
Liam on January 19, 2010 at 4:28 PM
One HUGE difference in the “Franken precedent,” no one was voting in his stead.
PJ Emeritus on January 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM
CQ = Captain’s Quarters is back???
das411 on January 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM
Actually I think once the polls close at 8 pm tonight, the Dems have 59. Even if there is a recount and it isn’t yet known who won, Kirk ceases to be a Senator after the election is over and can no longer vote.
If that is the case and Coakley wins, they’ll just wait for her to be sworn in to vote for whatever. But if Brown wins, ’tis a different story.
This may all have to be hammered out in court, of course, but I think that is what the law says.
Missy on January 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM
If they try this shjt it’s not going to be “can you hear us now?” it is going to be “FEAR US NOW!”
farright on January 19, 2010 at 3:53 PM
FEAR US NOW? DIRTBAGS!
dhunter on January 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Big diff: Franken was elected in a regularly scheduled election that was subject to a recount. If there is no recount here, combined with the special nature of the election, there is no reason to delay.
Of course, if it is close enough to recount, Coakley will steal it.
Hucklebuck on January 19, 2010 at 4:52 PM
Wait…
Didn’t the Donks lambaste Palin for saying one of the VPs jobs is to preside over the Senate?
Crawford on January 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM
Skedaddled to Cape Horn to romance his Tierra del Fuegan mistress?
ya2daup on January 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM
Where’s Joe?
Joe
Lies Low
at the
Home Depot
tpitman on January 19, 2010 at 5:57 PM
I knew he was “out to lunch,” but outta town? Very limp!
jgdp on January 19, 2010 at 7:18 PM
If Kirk is officially out today, and barring any mandated recount, as in the Franken – Coleman case, Brown could argue Article V of the US Constitution:
“. . . and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Sufferage in the Senate.”
Refusing to seat Sen. Brown would deprive MA of its second vote. S.Ct. might take that up.
rbj on January 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM
” The excuse-making has become rather pathetic.”
so have the Dems.
RobCon on January 19, 2010 at 8:28 PM
I think Congressman Owens of District 23 voted on the health care bill before he was certified. Hoffman had un-conceded after he found out that some of his votes were not included in the count.
Jasper61 on January 19, 2010 at 11:49 PM
Nice try. Dem forget that V.P. Biden is always out out there somewhere to be used when beneficial to Dem.
MSGTAS on January 20, 2010 at 9:37 AM
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