Oh my: Brown by three — in Coakley’s internal poll
posted at 5:55 pm on January 15, 2010 by Allahpundit
Wednesday night: 46/44 Coakley. Thursday: 47/44 Brown. I don’t at all buy that PJM poll showing Brown up by 15, but ask me again on Monday. It’s sounding less absurd by the hour.
We’d best enjoy this now, before The One blows into town with some of that Creigh Deeds magic and breaks our hearts.
The last time a public poll showed a Republican leading a Massachusetts Senate race this close to the election was, well….never. There were no public polls released in the week leading up to the 1972 election, the last one won by a Republican (Ed Brooke, was re-elected in a landslide over John Droney). And since then, Democrats have enjoyed the stretch-run advantage in every Senate race in the state. The closest the GOP came was in 1996, when Bill Weld was within a few points of John Kerry just before Election Day; Weld lost that race by seven points.
This is all hearsay coming from Kornacki, of course. Any reason to think it’s true and that Brown’s really ahead? Why … yes:
A senior Democratic official on Friday described Ms. Coakley’s chances as “within striking distance.”
She’s behind — but only by a little. Hope and change!
And now, at this moment of near-triumph, when the conservative world is feeling as warm and festive as the Whos down in Whoville, I’m going to have to play Grinch. I didn’t want to do it to you, but you have a right to know. Brace yourselves, my friends, for … the ultimate heart-ache.
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Hey Genius~Allah is all over it.
HornetSting on January 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM
I think we all realize Brown is an unknown or even a RINO. I gave him money because I’m sending a message to the Dems, and Brown promised to stop Obamacare.
He’s on probation after that like all the rest of them.
PattyJ on January 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM
A point that harry has been making? Is this real or bluster?
lukespapa on January 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Not really hypocritical if it’s a budget bill. That’s what reconciliation is FOR. Nice cribbing from MediaMatters, though.
ddrintn on January 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Really moron, after you called me brain dead for bringing it up and linking to a source?
harry on January 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM
PLEASE SEND SCOTT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
OmahaConservative on January 15, 2010 at 8:01 PM
But it is, according to Dems, a budget bill.
harry on January 15, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Allah, get your head out of your ass.
DrRansom on January 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM
AP, do you really not see the difference between supporting a liberal R in a deep blue state like Mass and fighting against a liberal R in a reddish district in upstate NY? You fight for what you can realistically win, and what is realistic in Mass today is much less than what was realistic in NY-23 a few months ago.
Conservatives were (rightly) pissed about NY-23 because the GOP backed the liberal instead of the conservative Hoffman, and by doing so, split the GOP vote and cost Hoffman the race. By contrast, conservatives are hopeful today because Brown represents the best they can possibly hope for in MA. Unless you honestly believe that Hoffman would have lost NY-23 with the backing of the GOP, your argument remains wanting.
holygoat on January 15, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Budget-busting bill?
mbs on January 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Which doesn’t make it so.
ddrintn on January 15, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Bah – the rantings of a Concern Troll or Coakley plant.
Mutnodjmet on January 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM
According to the rules it does. Live with it. Winning a seat makes no difference.
harry on January 15, 2010 at 8:16 PM
And it’s deficit neutral as well!
singer on January 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM
Speaking of history, did you know that the horse Paul Revere rode on his famous midnight ride was named Brown Beauty? I’ve decided to take it as a sign. :)
From commenter ‘Amy’ at the blog of Sissy Willis. As she says, this could be a sign?
BROWN.CAN.WIN
lukespapa on January 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM
A huge “if”, I know, but IF Scott Brown wins, I hope, hope, hope – to the Nth power, hope – that we’re treated to some delicious press statements from the White House about how “Ms. Coakley did not choose to run her campaign in a manner that the White House suggested to her….”
Vyce on January 15, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Cite the rule that makes ObamaCare a budget bill. And besides, put away your champagne. There’s still no guarantee that even reconciliation would work for your guys.
ddrintn on January 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM
Cambridge Police Officers Union Endorses Brown!
We do not endorse anyone who advocates changes in the health care that take away any bargaining rights or increases our cost along with our contributions. Senator Brown does not support the Comprehensive Healthcare Reform Bill and promises to be the 41st vote to ensure its defeat. The current leadership at the state house, as we all know and have seen over the past two years, have an agenda to dismantle all of our hard earned bargained benefits and they will continue to dismantle these until there is a complete change from the top down. Martha Coakley is part of this Massachusetts leadership and she will continue with this agenda, only now it will be at the capital level and we need to stop it. So today, we the members of the Cambridge Police Patrol Officers Association endorse Scott Brown for the senate seat vacated by Senator Kennedy.
Coakley’s husband was a member of the Cambridge Police Department. Go Sgt. Crowley
singer on January 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM
You guys? Wow that’s pretty harsh. They only need to bring up increases to medicade / mediacare and ding ding ding it’s a budget bill.
A public option, yep that public money, that’s a budget issue. Reducing the deficit by increasing government coverage, yep that’s a budget issue.
It’s not hard.
harry on January 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Umm..Doug Hoffman lost, and would have gotten his ass handed to him even more if it wasn’t a special election with so much individual attention given to it. Your philosophy = fail.
NoStoppingUs on January 15, 2010 at 9:00 PM
source MSNBC.
HornetSting on January 15, 2010 at 9:05 PM
jdp629 on January 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM
Correct, and I believe that is why the “Bush tax cuts” are expiring at the end of this year.
txmomof6 on January 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM
harry on January 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Creating an entitlement is not merely a budget bill even in Democrat/Orwellian speak
txmomof6 on January 15, 2010 at 9:14 PM
Let’s boil it down for the simple-minded, like Allah.
South Carolina + Lindsey Graham = Unacceptable.
South Carolina + Scott Brown (assuming he is as liberal as some want to portray) = Unacceptable.
Massachusetts + Lindsey Graham = Acceptable (possibly more so than Brown, depending upon Brown’s liberal possibilities mentioned above).
Massachusetts + Scott Brown = Acceptable.
Candidate + Circumstances determines acceptability.
Once we are moving the Senate back in the right direction, we start looking at replacing the Maine twins, Grahamnesty, et. al. It’s a long term plan with a planned strategy. Work from a position of strength, certainly not when your opponent has a super majority. This is for the Senate only, due to their staggered replacement cycle. In the House where everyone is up for election each year, we can be more aggressive, but not as an all out assault, at a 39-seat deficit.
mwdiver on January 15, 2010 at 9:23 PM
I don’t either and think Pajamas Media needs to get their money back from CrossTarget.
JeffinSac on January 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM
I think it’s absurd to suggest Dede Scozzafava is more liberal than Scott Brown. Brown admits he’s to the left on social issues (but not as far left as most ppl in MA; he made a point to note his votes to limit abortions in the debate while giving the pro-choice “reduce the number but keep the option there” spiel). As far as national security, he’s the kind of guy I want making decisions. He clearly knows his stuff and the fact that he’s taking the risk of running so heavily on it in a state like MA, where the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are unpopular, shows he really does believe what he says. And on fiscal matters, all I’ve heard are great things. Again, one could argue it would be easier for him to run as a “liberal Republican” in Massachusetts, but the fact that he is running as the anti-tax, anti-big spending 41st vote (and that he’s made it the centerpiece of the campaign) tells me that he means it. Like others have said, he’s not Jim DeMint, but he’ll be the most conservative guy you’ll get out of Masschusetts, hell all of New England for that matter. Anything to the right on the Maine twins is acceptable in my book.
malan89 on January 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM
So Doug Hoffman comes within 2% of beating Owens despite having no National GOP support and that’s your proof that he would have lost with the national GOPs support? Hoffman’s performance was half the reason there was so much national attention. No Scozzafava = no Owens victory, period.
holygoat on January 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM
You don’t worry about a broken capstan when the bilge is half full of water.
First you plug the leak, and then you fix the structural problems.
That’s what we’re hoping for with Brown, he stops the leak. Once that is done, we have the luxury of time to work on the rest.
Realpolitik sucks, but it’s a fact of life in our world.
What we’re looking at here is not making perfect the enemy of good.
NavyspyII on January 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM
As long as he votes to kill Obamacare, I’ll take this short-term gain. The long term pain can be quelled by major Senate seat pick-ups in November to off set any Snowe-like votes.
SouthernGent on January 15, 2010 at 11:45 PM
was waiting for friends by myself, back off sh!thead.
i got a number tonight buddy
trust me to do what i do and go fck yourself!
blatantblue on January 16, 2010 at 12:50 AM
Snarky and sarcastic, as well as using flawed arguments.
Check, check, and check.
Typical Allahpundit.
fossten on January 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM
snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Delicious
ted c on January 16, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Shor is the same moron who tried to tell us that Scozzafava was a conservative in New York. Wrong. Wrong then, wrong now. Is Scott Brown a lockstep conservative? No. And that’s a good thing.
He’s a fiscal conservative. That works for me.
Red Cloud on January 16, 2010 at 11:03 AM
Is Obams going to buy beer for the entire Cambridge PD this weekend?
Endorsing Brown…heh.
PattyJ on January 16, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Central Mass. here.
Do you think someone who presents themselves as a true conservative would not only be able to gain office but be re-elected in this state? NEVER.
In order to keep their foot in the door, conservatives need to maintain a very careful balance in how they present themselves.
Scozzafazza was OWNED by unions.
Brown has no such loyalties.
DLEW on January 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Let them do it. Watch the fall out .
CWforFreedom on January 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM
See, I think this is what the out-of-staters are missing a little. There are only like 12 Republicans in the entire MA House and Senate. Can you imagine sitting and discussing issues while surrounded by Barney Frank types, all day every day. A moderate conservative in MA is basically considered a far right-wing lunatic. Until now.
I just got back from a Brown rally here in America’s hometown and it was awesome. Huge turnout, cars honking in support as they passed, and a few blocks down the road about a dozen sad Coakley supporters with their signs getting ignored.
I have never seen this level of support for a non-Dem in MA in my life. It is nothing short of historic. It was literally dangerous to have a McCain sign or sticker for fear of property damage. A year later and Scott Brown signs are everywhere.
Granted, Coakley is an idiot with the charisma of moldy toast, but even given that, this will be historic. Go Scott Go!
SittingDeadRed on January 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Allah, the question for your heart ache complaint is this. Is Brown Less Conservative than Coakley? The answer to that is NO. Whereas your beloved Scazzafava was far more liberal than the Democrat Bill Owens. Had the race been between those two, I would have voted for Owens, as he was the more Conservative candidate.
That is what the whole Conservative movement is about. It’s not about getting Republicans elected. It’s about getting Conservatives elected. It’s about choosing the most conservative candidate on the ballot. It isn’t about marking something all R or all D. Only a partisan hack or a blind fool would believe that one party is automatically superior to the other.
Scazzafava was picked by the Political machine, over a more Conservative, if somewhat inexperienced candidate. Yet, the people were never given their choice. To give you an idea, instead of taking one for the party, she endorsed the more liberal candidate left in the race. She dropped out, so the Democrat could win. Think about that.
If you give me three candidates, I’m going with the more conservative candidate. If you give me nine candidates, I’m picking the most conservative of the candidates listed. If it’s a Democrat, then I am voting for the Democrat. If it’s a Republican, I’m voting for the Republican. If it’s John McCain and Zell Miller? I’m picking Miller hands down. If it’s Scazzafava and Joe Lieberman? I’m picking Joe over Dede.
I know, I just wasted several minutes typing. AP will never get it. For AP it’s a question of Party. AP would be one screaming “My party right or wrong.” I am not a republican. I am not a Democrat. I am a Conservative, and if you want my money, and my vote, you need to be conservative.
BTW. If it had been Hillary versus John McCain, I would have voted for Hillary. That of course is withough considering the Vice part of the ticket. If it had been Hillary and Biden versus McCain and Palin, I would have chosen Palin and the white haired guy.
Show me the More Conservative Candidate, Sometimes, that candidate is a Democrat. Annoying for you Republican Party Cheerleaders isn’t it AP?
Snake307 on January 16, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Okay, he’s not the most conservative but I like him on his vote against health care, lowering taxes and strong defense of the country. So what the hell is anyone complaining about? I can’t believe this knit-picking by that Boris guy when this is what we have right now and Brown is about to achieve the impossible knock out. I just don’t get people sometimes.
gatorfanatic on January 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM
Wow, touchy. Me thinks thou protest too much.
Truth hurts, cuts like a knife. Ouch
IowaWoman on January 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM
He’s a crybaby.
atheling on January 16, 2010 at 3:33 PM
It’s a horserace, for sure.
AnninCA on January 16, 2010 at 4:50 PM
I think that we must let states lead us as to who represents people in those states better.
Be careful about trying to engineer some national policy. MA is a good example. The real “teaparty” guy isn’t going anywhere. Brown is.
CA is another example. Fiorina isn’t raising good money now. Her breast cancer apparently really did hurt her in terms of raising money. DeVore, the darling of the teaparty group, is within 10 points, but he’s really just cutting off conservative support for her.
Boxer is going to win with this scenario.
I’d like to see Boxer unseated, personally.
AnninCA on January 16, 2010 at 5:16 PM
We get to sit back and watch the turn-out now.
Welcome to horse-race politics, eh?
AnninCA on January 16, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Forwarded my contribution last week!
My optional comment accompanying the donation: “Let us hear the ORCA screaming from hell or something.”
jaaakemm on January 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM
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