Haitian ambassador: Our alleged “pact with the devil” helped your country a lot

posted at 7:03 pm on January 14, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart, the Robertson story’s almost out of gas but a rejoinder this clever deserves wider airing. Most were content to hammer Reverend Pat yesterday for blaming the victims, but this guy’s after bigger game. If you’re trying to divine divine will by tracing a cause-and-effect line between certain historical data points, how do you know which data points to select? Does Haiti get no credit in the heavenly ledger for overthrowing a slaveholder regime and thereby bringing about the conditions for the U.S. to purchase the Louisiana territory? If not, if that’s spoiled by their, ahem, “pact with the devil,” does that mean the U.S. has some sort of reflected retribution coming because it profited from the deal (or was Katrina that retribution)? Or was the “pact with the devil” actually a good thing because God wanted the U.S. to have Louisiana — in which case, why are the Haitians supposedly being punished? If we do have retribution coming, how do we know when it’s finished — i.e., that Katrina wasn’t just part one of many? How come the Haitians needed help from the devil to get rid of slavery, anyway? Wasn’t God on their side? What about other non-Christian countries, as Peter Wehner asks? Stop me before I atheist-query again.

Note that Maddow doesn’t prompt this either; the ambassador offers it on his own, indicating the depth of his indignation. Below that you’ll find Gibbs, who was prompted, giving his own take. For once, he’s unobjectionable.

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Wasn’t Bill Clinton just in Haiti with a big group of investors a little while back?

http://www.iadb.org/announcements/2009-09/english/idbs-moreno-bill-clinton-to-lead-international-business-meeting-in-haiti-5676.html

Isn’t it convenient how US taxpayer dollars are going to be used to rebuild infrastructure and provide security so that those big investors will have someplace to sink their money? All that security and work done by “aid” money taken at the point of the IRS’s gun to go to Haiti so Clinton’s cronies will make out better.

I’m certainly not opposed to helping the Haitian people, but I’ll bet it’s going to come at the expense of the US taxpayer – and with every bit of efficiency the government can manage (rather than a charity or aid organization). Didn’t we just give $900 million to Hamas? Suppose it’ll come out of that pile of cash – or are we on the hook for this much more – and all for Clinton’s cronies?

Why the hell are people in third world Detroit living off subsistence farming in abandoned lots?

CPL 310 on January 15, 2010 at 5:48 AM

BJ has some deep – and according to one version of the story – very bizarre ties to Haiti:

Voodoo and Clinton’s fate
Haitian sorcerers claim credit for his victories and defeats
Posted: December 14, 1998
1:00 am Eastern

By Joel A. Ruth
© 2009 WorldNetDaily.com

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — In this land where witch doctors carry more clout than conventional PhDs or professional campaign advisers, the average citizen has been provided a mind-boggling explanation for why Bill Clinton so handily beat President George Bush in 1992, triumphed to re-election easily in 1996 and is now facing impeachment.

Acting on the advice of a “houngan” or sorcerer, supplied by then-exiled President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, Clinton did not change his underwear the last week of the 1992 campaign, voodoo practitioners say.

The same houngan also cast a “malediction” on President Bush by manipulating a doll made in the president’s image, goes the story. The torment climaxed when the houngan caused Bush’s projectile vomit into the lap of the Japanese prime minister as the world press looked on, disgracing him with the public.

Those and other bizarre stories were being told the Haitian people through the Lavalassien, a newspaper published by Aristide’s ruling Lavalas party. They were written by the Rev. Gerard Jean-Juste, who was a priest in Aristide’s entourage. The Rev. Gerard claimed that Aristide had developed a powerful grip on Clinton’s psyche through the power of voodoo.

FrontPageMag also referenced this story:

Haiti: Victim of Clinton’s Old Black Magic By: Lowell Ponte
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, February 20, 2004

Mr Purple on January 15, 2010 at 6:39 AM

Isn’t it convenient how US taxpayer dollars are going to be used to rebuild infrastructure and provide security so that those big investors will have someplace to sink their money? All that security and work done by “aid” money taken at the point of the IRS’s gun to go to Haiti so Clinton’s cronies will make out better.

You’re right. The new Dominican Republic will be built on the ruble and ruin, take care of the people so that they can heal and then send terrorists to say thanks.

OSUBuciz1 on January 15, 2010 at 6:39 AM

Hey where’s the Hotair story about Rush Limbaugh being a complete as*hole about Haiti?

Oh, right, when he shows his true colours, Hotair clowns pretend they never heard him.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM

Isn’t it convenient how US taxpayer dollars are going to be used to rebuild infrastructure and provide security so that those big investors will have someplace to sink their money? All that security and work done by “aid” money taken at the point of the IRS’s gun to go to Haiti so Clinton’s cronies will make out better.

I’m certainly not opposed to helping the Haitian people, but I’ll bet it’s going to come at the expense of the US taxpayer – and with every bit of efficiency the government can manage (rather than a charity or aid organization). Didn’t we just give $900 million to Hamas? Suppose it’ll come out of that pile of cash – or are we on the hook for this much more – and all for Clinton’s cronies?

Why the hell are people in third world Detroit living off subsistence farming in abandoned lots?

CPL 310 on January 15, 2010 at 5:48 AM
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Ah, so you’re publicly stating that you do not wish to help a country that has been hit with a devastating earthquake.

Also, you suddenly give a sh*t about Detroit? Why didn’t you care up until now?

You’re an a*s.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Our alleged “pact with the devil” helped your country a lot

This logic escapes me. Assuming the devil is real, and assuming they made a pact with the devil, then what difference would it make if the USA might have benefited?

That’s like saying “Don’t criticize me for mass murder because it helped the economy by reducing unemployment.”

It would have made more sense for him to stop at, “We didn’t do it.”

Daggett on January 15, 2010 at 8:07 AM

I see now that they can’t get any more mileage out of running against THE BOOOOSH, their new comapign for 2010 and 2012 is vote for us, we’re not Pat Robertson.

angryed on January 15, 2010 at 8:17 AM

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Davey,

You know full well that 90% of the money going to Haiti will be siphoned off by criminals. Same thing happens in every 3rd world hell hole after a disaster. How many tens of billions have been given in aid to African countries over the years? And the living conditions get worse every year. Get a clue huh man?

angryed on January 15, 2010 at 8:19 AM

Dave, not only are you a myopic fool, but you wear your liberal troll values on your sleeve.

Why should we have to provide 90% of the aid to a country we’ve been “bailing out” with tax payer dollars for years?

Pull your head out; we’re the most caring, generous and charitable country in the world – it’s time for us to start taking care of our own. Screw the rest of the world. And screw the liberals who think like you, Dave.

Cut taxes and give us back OUR money. We will decide what is best to spend OUR money on.

ontheright on January 15, 2010 at 8:23 AM

The Reverend Robertson should remember to engage the brain before allowing the mouth to move.

MSGTAS on January 15, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Davey,

You know full well that 90% of the money going to Haiti will be siphoned off by criminals. Same thing happens in every 3rd world hell hole after a disaster. How many tens of billions have been given in aid to African countries over the years? And the living conditions get worse every year. Get a clue huh man?

angryed on January 15, 2010 at 8:19 AM
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Hey who’s that pulling numbers out of his a*s. Oh right – it’s you.
Sure it’s a corrupt country. So clearly you should just wash your hands of them and let ‘em die under the rubble. Much better solution. You’re a fu*king genius.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 9:32 AM

Dave, not only are you a myopic fool, but you wear your liberal troll values on your sleeve.

Why should we have to provide 90% of the aid to a country we’ve been “bailing out” with tax payer dollars for years?

Pull your head out; we’re the most caring, generous and charitable country in the world – it’s time for us to start taking care of our own. Screw the rest of the world. And screw the liberals who think like you, Dave.

Cut taxes and give us back OUR money. We will decide what is best to spend OUR money on.

ontheright on January 15, 2010 at 8:23 AM
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Hey look it’s more numbers pulled out of another a*s.
Keep your money.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 9:33 AM

True Christians need to stop looking for blame, need to stop judging, and need to dig into their wallet.

Out church had a mission trip to Haiti planned to leave this Sunday. Not sure if it’s still on or not. I am hoping it is canceled as the situation is deteriorating.

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone down there.

Keith_Indy on January 15, 2010 at 9:49 AM

“On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (“voodoo priests”), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact at a place called Bois Caiman. The priests sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual and drank its blood. Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti. In exchange, the voodoo priests dedicated the country to Satan and swore to serve him. They signed no Bill of Rights. They wrote no Declaration of Independence. It would be a government of the devil by the devil and for the devil” – Angels of a Lower Flight

just sayin…

MechEng5by5 on January 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Hey where’s the Hotair story about Rush Limbaugh being a complete as*hole about Haiti?

Oh, right, when he shows his true colours, Hotair clowns pretend they never heard him.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM

I think I see the only a-hole in here. Did you actually listen to all of Rush’s comments IN CONTEXT? No…I didn’t think so. Go troll somewhere else troll.

MechEng5by5 on January 15, 2010 at 9:55 AM

can’t make a covenant with the father of lies

jp on January 15, 2010 at 9:56 AM

I think I see the only a-hole in here. Did you actually listen to all of Rush’s comments IN CONTEXT? No…I didn’t think so. Go troll somewhere else troll.

MechEng5by5 on January 15, 2010 at 9:55 AM
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Yeah, context.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM

just sayin…

MechEng5by5 on January 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM
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You believe there is a devil?
Wow.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM

CBN released a statement on this btw:

Statement Regarding Pat Robertson’s Comments on Haiti

CBN.com – VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 — On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.

Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN

jp on January 15, 2010 at 10:13 AM

Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.

Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN

jp on January 15, 2010 at 10:13 AM
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He claims Haiti is in cahoots with the devil and therefore it’s no wonder that something like this happened.

That’s all you need to know, and he needs to fu*k off.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 10:19 AM

MechEng5by5 on January 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Also worth noting that Haiti is following the path of other nations that violently overthrew white leadership.

Dark-Star on January 15, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Hey where’s the Hotair story about Rush Limbaugh being a complete as*hole about Haiti?

Oh, right, when he shows his true colours, Hotair clowns pretend they never heard him.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM

Why is he an ahole?

Becuase he uses Haiti as an excuse to flame political opponents?

WTF are you doing here, ahole?

Chris_Balsz on January 15, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Actor Danny Glover thinks the Haitian earthquake was caused by climate change, global warming and the failure at Copenhagen. Here’s the link:

I wonder if he’ll get the Robertson treatment from the MSM and some hotair bloggers.

Keith Olbermann has used Haiti to make case of Socialized Medicine(i.e. Govt. as god), see Newsbusters, wonder if he’ll get the same treatment as a Christian who only repeated something Historians have been pondering about Haiti for 100′s of yrs????

Its just a pathetic and Illogical way for Atheist to hate god(who they claim doesn’t exist). Same story of Autonomy from Gen. 3

jp on January 15, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Oh and to any other Pat Robertson bashers. Please Google the following:
Papa Doc
Baby Doc
Tonton Macoutes
loup garou
bokor
Jean-Bertrand Aristide
Haitian voodoo

Unlike God, the devil doesn’t really care if you don’t believe in him.

MechEng5by5 on January 15, 2010 at 10:42 AM

I’ve watched the entire video. Robertson never said that the earthquake was God’s wrath.
However, it hasn’t stopped lefists and idiots from claiming over and over that he did ,despite the whole video is available.
Democrats depend on their supporters to have problems with comprehension, both verbal and written. They depends on them have reactionary minds that reject details and actual meanings.
Anyone that has been to Haiti would be hard pressed to say they are not cursed. It’s the most heart wrenching place on earth.
I’m with the Ambass. on this one, God did not curse Haiti, it’s current and past government, the Ambass included,that have cursed it’s people in a way hardly ever reached in history.

LeeSeneca on January 15, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Hey where’s the Hotair story about Rush Limbaugh being a complete as*hole about Haiti?

Oh, right, when he shows his true colours, Hotair clowns pretend they never heard him.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM

Why is he an ahole?

Becuase he uses Haiti as an excuse to flame political opponents?

WTF are you doing here, ahole?

Chris_Balsz on January 15, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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Balsz

ha ha ha your name is so clever

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM

And D.rywall ain’t.

It’s moronic. But, it fits you to a “T”.

;)

Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Not to ignore Danny Glover’s Gorbal damnation based upon unscientific false dogma that is just another such “pact with the devil.”

Pray for Haiti’s inhabitants who are in hell right now; may we provide organized deliverance for survivors.

Obama’s in the way, distracting attention from attending to real terrorist threats and natural disaster tragedies onto his damned EugeniCare. It’s all about Obama, the world knows.

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM

–that sh!t fabricated in China for a fraudulent profit that’s ruined so many structures and businesses everywhere it was used.

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Not to ignore Danny Glover’s Gorbal damnation based upon unscientific false dogma that is just another such “pact with the devil.”

Pray for Haiti’s inhabitants who are in hell right now; may we provide organized deliverance for survivors.

Obama’s in the way, distracting attention from attending to real terrorist threats and natural disaster tragedies onto his damned EugeniCare. It’s all about Obama, the world knows.

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM
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Glover’s a moron.
Next.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM

Not to ignore Danny Glover’s Gorbal damnation based upon unscientific false dogma that is just another such “pact with the devil.”

Pray for Haiti’s inhabitants who are in hell right now; may we provide organized deliverance for survivors.

Obama’s in the way, distracting attention from attending to real terrorist threats and natural disaster tragedies onto his damned EugeniCare. It’s all about Obama, the world knows.

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM
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So let’s recap:

Obama takes action on the earthquake: you crybaby that he’s getting in the way ( not sure what the fu*k that means) and that he’s letting other things slip through the cracks

Obama doesn’t take action on the earthquake: you crybaby that he’s not taking action

Either way you crybaby so why don’t you just stfu.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM

What a Conflagration of horrible circumstances. I can’t help but feel very sorry for Haiti to be sure. But, I am troubled by the old Russian saying that “people have the government they disserve”.

They say the Hatians do well when they come over here, so why are they such an unmitigated disaster over there? Are only the sharp ones able to get over here leaving the dead heads there? I just dont get it. Unless the Haitian people are just totally stupid, why can’t someone make something positive happen over there with government?

saiga on January 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM

LeeSeneca,

You are right. Robertson prefaced his request for the public to pray for Haiti by his generation’s recall approach. Allahpundit just couldn’t resist projecting that “Christian” fault along with every cheap shot media hack; so much for being insightful, AP. Even Michael Savage was more fair in his delivery of spite for what came across from Robertson as a very crude judgmental statement.

I linked and commented on a previous thread but HotAir didn’t post any of those historical comments in a timely fashion. (The site is deemed safe by AVG.)

The voodoo ceremony wherein all the slave rebellion revolutionary leaders sealed their compact occurred in the Alligator Woods of Bois Cayman and was performed by the maroon voodoo houngan priest Boukman early August 1791; and the uprising began the next week.

Note there in the subsequent chapter that the Democrat-Marxist Pres. Woodrow Wilson co-opted control of Haiti in 1915 declaring martial law with our Marines enforcing Wilson’s executive order to occupy Haiti. And Wilson’s appointed Navy Secretary FDR composed a Constitution for Haiti that their Parliament refused, so again Wilson coerced his version of brutally elitist governance. Do recall that Wilson eschewed our US Constitution, and meant to have it dissolved. Since subsequent administrations were unwilling to pull out of Haiti, THAT occupation begun by the Marxist Wilson lasted until 1934 when evidently the US could no longer afford such extravagant foreign occupation, and withdrew ironically during FDR’s Marxist administration that lasted far too long. For two decades of mostly Marxist-Democrat administrations, the US occupied Haiti, designed their constitution and trained their military. What a miserable nation building waste of effort that was; and no irony lost in noting that where France gives up in disgust as a lost cause, the US Democrat Presidents charge in to cause another colossal and epic failed experiment, whether in Haiti or Vietnam.

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Either way you crybaby so why don’t you just stfu.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Take your own advice, LOSER. See how I did that?

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM

What a Conflagration of horrible circumstances. I can’t help but feel very sorry for Haiti to be sure. But, I am troubled by the old Russian saying that “people have the government they disserve”.

They say the Hatians do well when they come over here, so why are they such an unmitigated disaster over there? Are only the sharp ones able to get over here leaving the dead heads there? I just dont get it. Unless the Haitian people are just totally stupid, why can’t someone make something positive happen over there with government?

saiga on January 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Because they don’t want it.

Dare I bring up a Biblical parallel, here? (I dare!)

It’s akin to the Israelites demanding a king to rule over them (having rejected God as their king). They refused to hear the advice of Samuel, and chose a king who they felt best reflected their views and practices. They chose…unwisely.

Again, have to say that Pat Robertson was closer to the truth than most people want to give him credit for. Sure, his timing may not have been the greatest, but can anyone really deny that choosing adherence to a form of witchcraft to guide you out of your bondage and struggles is not a smart choice? Look at the leaders Haiti has had in the last couple centuries! And, we keep seeing over and over again, eyewitness accounts of the prevalence of voodoo (or vodou or vaudou), as the #1 faith/religion in Haiti.

Take it for what it’s worth. Ultimately, the sole aim of evil is to destroy body, soul, and spirit. Well, we’ve seen glimpses of that throughout Haiti’s history, and we’re now seeing that in the completely counter-productive way they’re responding to this tragedy.
A complete inability to fend for themselves, even in some small way? Barricading streets to block aid from coming in, because it wasn’t immediate? Roving gangs with machetes looting and fighting over what little scraps they can find??
Is this not EVIL in it’s full manifestation??

Adversity is the ultimate test of a person’s character, and what exists in their heart and soul. I know it’s pretty early on to say this, but I have a mind that these people are beyond our help…

:(

Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM

choosing adherence to a form of witchcraft to guide you out of your bondage and struggles is not a smart choice?
Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM
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You actually believe the devil helped free them. Wow.

How come your all powerful God didn’t step up to the plate to stop it?

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Corner cutters are cheats at best. 12:13 fails to do his own research to answer his own questions. His lack of scholarly and historical knowledge and disrespectful juvenile delinquent manners are unwelcome in the civilized world. Lacking any compassionate expression for the Haitians, let alone his OWN charitable contribution for their survival, this LOSER reflects the worst beast, a cannibal feasting on the sorrows of the defenseless.

maverick muse on January 15, 2010 at 12:31 PM

You actually believe the devil helped free them. Wow.

How come your all powerful God didn’t step up to the plate to stop it?

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Because we have FREE WILL to choose, chump.

Just as you have demonstrated the free will to be a complete and total douche.

Let the adults have a discussion here, and go play with your Barbie Dolls.

Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Wiithout the rancor and vituperation, I think it is fair to say Haiti is a failed state, and it is also fair to say the people are responsible for the government.

What is a solution to turn that cesspool around? If the citizenry lacks the gumption or where-with-all, what is our responsibility?

saiga on January 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM

I don’t know about all this pact with the devil stuff, but I do know vodoo is rampant there which can’t be a good thing for Haiti.

What kind of person chooses to delve into vodoo? I heard some bonehead say Hatians were better off as slaves. Now that is a disaster in itself when some people believe that.

Something must be done. This is our hemisphere!

saiga on January 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Will someone please expain to me in PC terms why Haiti is such a pitiful basket case?

saiga on January 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM

What is the difference between Pat Robertson’s comments and Danny Glovers comment?

will sass u on January 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Why is the Dominican Republic not helping?

will sass u on January 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Why is the Dominican Republic not helping?

will sass u on January 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Good question. I suspect The Dominican Republic is fed up with them as neighbors.

saiga on January 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Balsz

ha ha ha your name is so clever

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Oh, is Rywall an alias?

Chris_Balsz on January 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Ah, so you’re publicly stating that you do not wish to help a country that has been hit with a devastating earthquake.

Also, you suddenly give a sh*t about Detroit? Why didn’t you care up until now?

You’re an a*s.

Dave Rywall on January 15, 2010 at 7:48 AM

You must be addressing this guy.

I said this:

I’m certainly not opposed to helping the Haitian people, but I’ll bet it’s going to come at the expense of the US taxpayer – and with every bit of efficiency the government can manage (rather than a charity or aid organization).

Your feigned outrage is actually kinda funny. It’s like you’re your very own stereotype of every liberal ever, assuming anyone who disagrees with your guaranteed to fail “spend spend spend” approach to everything is a heartless ahole, and that you have the market cornered on compassion for your fellow human being.

What will you be saying if you hear Halliburton’s got a big contract in Haiti? Or Monsanto?

CPL 310 on January 15, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Actor Danny Glover believes that the Haitian earthquake was
caused by climate change and global warming:


Timblair at the telegraph notes:
Glover: “When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m sayin’?” His obscene opinion would be bigger news if Glover had – in the manner of others – idiotically blamed a less-fashionable deity.

davod on January 15, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Actor Danny Glover believes that the Haitian earthquake was
caused by climate change and global warming:

Timblair at the telegraph notes: Glover: “When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m sayin’?”

This is the response? So Manbearpig just up and did it? So is he blaming plate tectonics on Manbearpig, or is global warming now caused by the devil?

Or does he mean that global warming is caused by humans, so humans – specifically the advanced western world – is the devil?

Or is it just the usual “liberal” way of saying “you caused this tragedy, feel guilty, give me money and power over you so I can save you from this crisis” (that you had no hand in creating)?

CPL 310 on January 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Well I got news for these historical ignorant people out there. The Louisiana Purchase would have happened with or without any revolt in Haiti! In fact Haiti did not have a damn thing to do with it, but a minor excuse! Napoleon was ready to wash his hands of the Americas. He had larger troubles at home, and in Europe. He sold Louisiana to Jefferson for one reason, and on reason only MONEY!!

Confederate on January 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM

wow… that’s your complaint about this thread.

Keith_Indy on January 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM

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