Earthquake in Haiti leaves tens of thousands dead
posted at 1:24 pm on January 13, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The earthquake that hit Haiti may wind up surpassing the number of people killed in the tsunamis of 2004. Initial estimates run from the “thousands” (news media, being cautious) to 100,000 (Le Monde), to as many as a half-million people (the Haiti government). Tweets from locals say there are no hospitals left in Port-au-Prince, and the local jail collapsed entirely. One of the poorest nations on the planet has been utterly devastated:
Haitians are piling bodies along the devastated streets of their capital after a powerful earthquake flattened the president’s palace and the main prison, the cathedral, hospitals, schools and thousands of homes. Untold numbers are still trapped.
President Rene Preval says he believes thousands of people are dead even as other officials give much higher estimates — though they were based on the extent of the destruction rather than firm counts of the dead.
His prime minister, Jean-Max Bellerive, tells CNN: “I believe we are well over 100,000,” while leading senator Youri Latortue tells The Associated Press that 500,000 could be dead. Both admit they have no way of knowing.
Fausta, always a go-to resource for Western Hemisphere news, has the following videos showing the destruction:
6:20 pm The American Red Cross is pledging an initial $200,000 to assist communities impacted by this earthquake, and is prepared to take further action as local responders assess the situation. As with most earthquakes, we expect to see immediate needs for food, water, temporary shelter, medical services and emotional support.
12:30am (1/13/2010) You can text “HAITI” to 90999 to donate $10 to American Red Cross relief for Haiti.
Barack Obama signaled US commitment to assist in recovery:
The US Navy will play a big role in the effort to assist Haiti. Donate to reputable response organizations, and keep Haitians in your prayers.
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My grandfather has friends there working with TransWorld Radio…all he knows (last I heard) is that you might say there is total radio silence.
Dark-Star on January 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM
DrRansom:
I am doing research on private aid. Private aid, including aid from churches, is considered as private aid. What more can I do? When the churches donate this aid, do they hide it from the government?
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM
Dave wants the governments that repress their people economically to get credit for their lousy economies.
Count to 10 on January 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Wow. We have one more thing this cockroach is passionate about. Add this to: Holocaust denial, support for pedophilia, sticking up for A-jad, and covering for Chavez. Are you Noam Chomsky?
PimFortuynsGhost on January 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM
This “humanitarian intervention” is an American ploy to steal Haiti’s oil reserves. Just like in Somalia.
/sarc
Mike Honcho on January 13, 2010 at 2:55 PM
I don’t think Ambassador Joseph is sneering at all. You mistake what a counterpoint is — it’s a statement which provides an assertion the opposite of the statement to which it is a counter.
Joseph is actually saying that we gave his country a lot back then, and they’re sorry but they need it yet again.
Here’s an interesting article by the Harvard Business Review on charitywatch.org and its attempt to measure the efficiency of contributions to charity. A salient statement in that article:
$307 billion dollars in private donations to charity in a single year by our country is not stingy, no matter how dave742 wants to slice it. dave742 takes one event (a tsunami) and tries to extrapolate from a single event — one of many in a the year 2005 — about how charitable the people as a whole are. I’m wondering how Germany (the seeming top donator per capita for that event) looks if you measure Katrina? And, looking at Dave’s own chart, $1.7B in private donations by Americans for the tsunami is a pretty hefty amount, and dwarfs all the other figures on the chart.
Of course, there’s promises, and there’s action. By dave’s own source, note that Germany has promised much but delivered — a bit more than half of what it promised. Whereas the United States promised much and delivered 100%.
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM
One of the best things I have ever read! too bad there are no Davy Crocketts now. Thanks!!!
Lily on January 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM
Sorry, but dave741 was MUCH funnier.
Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM
What a crock of utter horse shit.
That article has to be one of the saddest, most pathetic attempts of academia I’ve ever had the misfortune of reading – and I’ve read some serious tripe in my day.
Not only do you have to resort to silly GDP percentage games to knock the US off the top spot of every list, but you throw in silly, immature rhetoric to back it up.
Damn that Bush for ‘vacationing’ on Christmas when the Tsunami hit on the 26′th. What a fucking monster.
Brilliant. I particularly like the double exclamation mark. Nothing gets a point across like !!
You just summed up why Liberals are brain dead muppets. Your original point was that the US government amount given (the most, which is a fact that you can’t change – no matter how much you try to skew the data) was disproportionally small to its GDP.
You then follow up by bitching about how the GDP per capita in the US is much larger than Saudi Arabia and that those that make more should give more.
So which one is it? are we graphing civilian monetary donations or government aid? Which brings me to another point – do you even have the slightest idea how much other aid – both financial and military – the US gives to countries in areas other than disaster relief?
Or are you so incredibly retarded that you actually believe US government spending is divided across equal categories and in equal amounts as a country like say…Canada…or your favorite ludicrous example…Saudi Arabia?
Do you even read this shit?
Is this a joke?
You-Eh-Vee on January 13, 2010 at 3:02 PM
A possible 500,000 human beings dead, and some one actually uses it as an excuse to bash America. Despicable.
Beaglemom on January 13, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Yet all too predictable…
Kensington on January 13, 2010 at 3:05 PM
unclesmrgol:
I also looked at what OECD countries give for ALL combined aid. The US came in 21st out of 22. Saudi Arabia gives 18 times as much aid as the US when accounting for ALL sources, not just one event.
Not according to this.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM
We sponsor a little boy in Haiti through world vision. They are currently taking donations to go directly to Haiti. We have been sponsors for about 3 years, and trust the organization. If you’re the praying type, please pray for the little boy we sponsor. His name is Sonders.
Here’s a link if you feel led to donate:
http://www.worldvision.org/
Vera on January 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Let’s start with this premise:
That’s your conclusion and you seek “facts” to prove it. That isn’t objective research, it’s opinion writing.
Your second sentence says:
Fringe right? How objective.
Footnote 18:
Like I said, you had your conclusion and worked backwards. Additionally, your bibliography and references in your paper are weak. If I was grading the paper, I’d return it to you to rewrite it or give you a C.
The paper largely seems to take on Robert Spencer (who by the way uses his real name unlike you).
People here have provided links and information about U.S. giving and aid from the government, charity, and personal giving, but you refuse to acknowledge it. You have a spur in your saddle.
I can’t respond to you anymore, I have to get back to work.
conservative pilgrim on January 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM
That’s another point. dave wants to take a single event and look at it in isolation. People in my church already support about a dozen missions around the world. These are committments that we have already made. When an event like the Christmass tsuname or this earthquake happen, what we give is on top of what we are already giving. We can’t stop are previously given committments, otherwise those missions could collapse and all the good work done in those places be lost.
As I and others have stated, dave is not looking to find out the truth, he’s trying to prove a predetermined point, and he’s willing to use distortion and outright lies to get there.
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 3:10 PM
What never ceases to amaze me is the willingness and promptness of countries like the US, UK, Canada, Taiwan – to rally and get what needs to be there, there.
On the other hand, one doesn’t hear or see assistance from the middle east – where the above-mentioned countries are also quick to assist when needed. . . .
karra on January 13, 2010 at 3:10 PM
Holocaust deniers like “Dave” usually try to stay below the radar.
PimFortuynsGhost on January 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Ed, please post a statement denouncing what Pat Robertson said about Haiti and its people. I truly find it offensive to think that anyone would try to claim that God was punishing this nation for a “pact with the Devil.” Utterly disgusting.
pbundy on January 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Yes, and he is $hitting all over this thread like a dog.
OmahaConservative on January 13, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Minor nit. The saying is “a burr in your saddle”. A burr is a small seed pod covered in spikes.
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Many Hot Aryans probably agree with Pat.
Grow Fins on January 13, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Ack! You are right!
Do you watch NCIS? The character Officer David mixes up American puns and idioms all the time. I am often guilty of “Davids.” :-) (And I’m native, so I have no excuse!) My husband gets plenty of laughs from my gaffes. haha
conservative pilgrim on January 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Yes, but like I said churches usually care about where their money goes unlike you. What will be hard for you to find out is what percentage of all of that money actually went to those who needed it.
Unlike you, I don’t care if I’m giving $10 or $1,000 I want to make sure that at least 75% of my money is going to those who need it. What’s the point of giving if it doesn’t get to the intended recipient? I don’t want to give $4 or $400 to those in need and the other $6 or $600 goes to administrative costs.
MobileVideoEngineer on January 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM
On another note, any user that uses a thread like this to push a bullshit anti-American ‘paper’ (and I use that word lightly) should be banned.
Period.
You-Eh-Vee on January 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Devastation. Have they interrupted Obama’s golf game to tell him?
Basilsbest on January 13, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Has anyone reported him? Bleeds Blue got the hammer last night.
OmahaConservative on January 13, 2010 at 3:18 PM
All you need to know about dave742:
From Jihadwatch 9/27/08
kingsjester on January 13, 2010 at 3:19 PM
Yeah, and they’d be disgusting just as well.
It’s amazing that a tragedy like this brings out so much love and compassion from so many, and we have these trolls that come just to spew hate. What’s up with that?
A tragedy brings out the hate in you? Sick people.
bridgetown on January 13, 2010 at 3:20 PM
It’s George Bush’s fault.
nazo311 on January 13, 2010 at 3:20 PM
You’re still relying on a flawed methodology. Percentage of GDP is meaningless because it measures intentions (imperfectly) instead of outcomes. You might want to consider that the UN is being a little credulous when they take Saudi Arabia’s word for it that they gave a certain amount, too.
There’s not much more to say. If you really want a meaningful analysis of foreign aid, it might help if you actually analyzed something. Until then, all you have are self-serving statistics cobbled together from unreliable sources with nothing but your lame insults to connect them.
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM
nazo311:
I don’t think so. I think Al Qaeda did it (or someone “affiliated” with Al Qadea).
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM
There is truth to what he is saying, only reason Jefferson was able to purchase La. Terrirtory so cheap was because Napoleon was bogged down in a very expensive war with Hati, and he needed fast money.
If God is the Creator(and Giver of Inalienable Rights), Sovereign Controller of the Universe and Supreme Lawgiver and Judge. Its very reasonable to conclude a Nation totally set against his law is cursed and in need of Redemption, and acknoledgement of their Creator and acknowledgement of his Law.
What our Country was founded on and in every Pre-amble to every State Constitution in the country. Haiti acknowledges Voo Doo
jp on January 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Uh, wrong. Your undying love of Mohammed Bouyeri is beyond reproach, however.
PimFortuynsGhost on January 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM
One of the worst examples of threadjacking I’ve ever seen, to be honest.
Spiny Norman on January 13, 2010 at 3:25 PM
RightOFLeft:
Tell me what to analyze. Show me where the accurate data is regarding aid.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Everyone should remember that this is likely just the beginning of the devestation. Haiti is subject to massive flooding and mudslides.
What also worries me is that they have a very large population of HIV+ individuals. There is blood flowing everywhere. After the dust settles, there are going to be some very big problems facing the country.
Relief can’t be limited to the next days and weeks. I’m very worried about the future of the nation for the survivors.
Vera on January 13, 2010 at 3:27 PM
God be merciful to the Haitian people and bless the U.S. rescue efforts and keep the rescuers safe.
kingsjester on January 13, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Hey dave742,
This isn’t about you.
This is about thousands, maybe millions of people suffering after a tragic earthquake.
Get over yourself.
bridgetown on January 13, 2010 at 3:27 PM
kingjester, wow.
Here’s another gem:
notropis on January 13, 2010 at 3:28 PM
I can’t speak for everyone here at Hot Air, but Michael Kelly spoke for me:
“I don’t think Robertson and Falwell will ever again be regarded by most Americans with anything other than the deepest contempt.” -Michael Kelly, September 20, 2001
July 10 on January 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM
There is truth to what he is saying, only reason Jefferson was able to purchase La. Terrirtory so cheap was because Napoleon was bogged down in a very expensive war with Hati, and he needed fast money.
If God is the Creator(and Giver of Inalienable Rights), Sovereign Controller of the Universe and Supreme Lawgiver and Judge. Its very reasonable to conclude a Nation totally set against his law is cursed and in need of Redemption, and acknoledgement of their Creator and acknowledgement of his Law.
What our Country was founded on and in every Pre-amble to every State Constitution in the country. Haiti acknowledges Voo Doo
jp on January 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM
——–
Wow this is hilarious.
You do not belong in this century.
Dave Rywall on January 13, 2010 at 3:33 PM
dave742-
One more thing I forgot to add. Consider the state of the middle east. Much of its population is desperately poor and hopelessly repressed. So when you see that they’re giving a relatively big chunk of their GDP to other countries, keep in mind that those countries need aid themselves. Are they giving to other countries or taking from their own people? If the U.S. could look more like the Middle East by adopting their policies, are you seriously suggesting the world would be a better place?
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Amen!
capejasmine on January 13, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Considering Dave is admitted Islamist-sympathizer, I think the answer would be “yes.”
PimFortuynsGhost on January 13, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Limbaugh: Obama will use Haiti to boost credibility with “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country”
AWESOME
Dave Rywall on January 13, 2010 at 3:41 PM
mankei:
I shouldn’t require you to read my paper to get this answer. You probably have never read anything 21 pages long before. The answer is over 800 million. The funny thing is that the US actually accepted this aid. When the tsunami hit, India was offered a share of the aid package, since they were affected by the tsunami. They refused it, and actually donated instead. They considered themselves to be too developed a country to actually accept aid. The US, however, does not have the dignity that India apparently does.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 3:41 PM
I have very close friends who were both born and raised in Haiti, one was “Arisocracy” and one was “common” – Long story short they met working side by side as Dr. and Nurse in NYC after both emmigrating to the U.S. legally, and eventually married. Had they remained in Haiti this would have never occurred. While they love their country of origin, both acknowledge the main problem is the corrosive, overwhelming culture of corruption and no matter what coup takes place that culture just continues unabated as the power corrupts everyone who acquires it and the majority live in extreme poverty which breeds crime. It is their opinion that the lack of education/poverty perpetuates the practice of voo-doo, which holds back the entire country and helps assure those currently in power remain in power.
The people of Haiti need our prayers and support- if someone out there knows of the best charity via which to send donations, please post ( I may have just missed it- so apologies if I did)
huskerdiva on January 13, 2010 at 3:43 PM
This is pissing me off a little, so I’ll make an effort to be more civil. You obviously put a lot of effort into your work, even if I think it’s fundamentally flawed, so that counts for something. To answer your question, I don’t think that an issue as complex as cultural generosity (for lack of a better phrase) can be studied in dollars and cents. I think I got a little off track from the point I want to make. Even if everything you say is true, even if we’re just stingy bastards by world standards, our stinginess still serves a purpose. We’re better off for it, and our welfare counts as much as any other country’s welfare. If more countries adopted Western stinginess, they wouldn’t need aid in the first place.
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2010 at 3:44 PM
I think I’ve read a similar ‘paper’. Only it was written on the inside door of a bathroom stall…in shit.
If you think what you have qualifies as academia, then this counts too.
http://img207.imageshack.us/i/ilikehoresfunnykidsessabx7.jpg/
Cheers.
You-Eh-Vee on January 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Make that Islamist-apologist.
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 3:46 PM
It’s amazing how testy fascists get when they aren’t getting their way.
Why should anyone be forced to slog through 21 pages of hate filled rhetoric just to find a few nuggets of information that probably isn’t accurate anyway?
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 3:48 PM
Rightofleft:
Let’s keep this simple and compare apples to apples. Leave out poor countries, and compare the US to other developed countries like EU nations, Japan, Australia, Switzerland, etc. The US is on the bottom of the list (or second to it). Period.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM
So only the government counts? Individuals in this country out give other governments when it comes to disaster relief. Typical lefty rant on your part.
chemman on January 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM
It only took me 2 sentences to realize you are a ignorant jackass. Now run along.
reaganaut on January 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Please consider the possibility that crime breeds extreme poverty.
July 10 on January 13, 2010 at 3:51 PM
chemman:
As I said before, I am writing another paper on individual conributions, and the results are the same: US on the bottom. When I am done, I will post them. At that point, you will have to go down one number on your list of apologetics and techniques for ignoring facts. At that point you can resort to the name calling like most people here are.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 3:53 PM
I never report any of my donations, nor do my parents, nor my brother, nor my friends.
As you are an athiest, I am unsurprised you do not realize this line of thinking among Christians. Go read Matthew 6:3, and consider it. Then, ponder Luke 6:42, and obtain wisdom from both.
KinleyArdal on January 13, 2010 at 3:53 PM
Nations aren’t apples, and money isn’t everything, so I don’t think any such comparison is possible or productive. Better to give what you can, encourage others to do the same, and leave the global politics alone.
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Well, you might miss “nuggets” like:
or even the title of his academic paper, “Cheap, Smelly Americans.”
darclon on January 13, 2010 at 3:57 PM
You mean you’ve produced more bullshit that supports your previous bullshit?
DarkCurrent on January 13, 2010 at 4:00 PM
I sent a Franklin or two via the following orgs:
http://www.worldvision.org
http://www.planusa.org
World Vision does the non-denominational Christian thing, Plan has a more secular approach, both are child-centered and efficient, and both have people on the ground.
Ignore the trolls.
Maquis on January 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM
What a clown.
What a stupid, little smug clown. And he wonders why people aren’t taking his ‘research’ seriously.
I honestly believe that dave742 isn’t playing with a full deck.
But hey, he tries hard.
You-Eh-Vee on January 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM
+ infinity
Midas on January 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM
test
jp on January 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM
don’t forget, dave deletes up front, any aid that he doesn’t believe is given with the right “motive”.
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM
So even before you finish the paper, you already know what the results are going to be.
Anyone else not surprised about this admission from dave?
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Rightofleft:
The second post on this thread included this: “Providing relief is where America really shines.” If I had not posted on this thread, I doubt that you would have said the same to that person. If I had not posted, half the thread would have been dedicated to people talking about how generous Americans are (if you deny this, I will be happy to look up previous HA/tsunami threads to show that this is the case – in fact, on CaptainsQuarters Ed would devote entire threads showing American generosity, which is how I first starting reading about this subject. Was it “productive” for Ed to make this comparison?). I guess when you use slanted stats to try and show that America is generous, then a comparison is possible and productive. But if you use fair methods to show the opposite, then comparisons are not productive. It’s funny how that works.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 4:04 PM
“Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrat h? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice can not sleep forever- …. that it may become probable by supernatural interference!”
Jefferson
jp on January 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM
dave,
I’m still waiting for you to provide reliable, accurate evidence to back up your claim that you have proven that American’s aren’t generous.
Your paper has been analyzed and shredded.
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM
Dude, if you’re going to be all about skewing numbers and statistics to meet your foregone conclusion, you might consider getting into the global warming scam while it’s still viable – that’s where the money for made-up science is.
Midas on January 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM
Markthe great:
I have analyzed the numbers, and know the result. I have not written the paper. I did not pre-determine anything.
If you read the present paper, you will see how Spencer gave a value of $300 million for aid given by Saudi Arabia. I adjusted this down to 32.4 million. Did I “pre-determine” that? No. I adjusted Saudis contribution down because that was the reality. I am honest. If you think I am not, then show me where.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 4:08 PM
Markthegreat:
Sure.
dave742 on January 13, 2010 at 4:09 PM
Ed, please post a statement denouncing what Pat Robertson said about Haiti and its people. I truly find it offensive to think that anyone would try to claim that God was punishing this nation for a “pact with the Devil.” Utterly disgusting.
pbundy on January 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Agreed. Pat Robertson is an unmitigated jackass and turns Christian compassion on it’s head with his stupidity. Pat needs to not judge lest…you know the rest. Pat Robertson is a money-monger using Christianity for his own glory. If I was in his room right now I would gladly go to jail for kicking his ass.
Meremortal on January 13, 2010 at 4:09 PM
God help them. They must be terrified and lost.
Terrye on January 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM
I suggest he be 100%, totally ignored.
bridgetown on January 13, 2010 at 4:11 PM
If course not. Anyone would could claim with a straight face (or, in his case, a sneer) that, because the Bush Administration would not wait for the UN dictator’s club to drop their petty bickering for one f*cking minute and get aid to desperate people as soon as possible, “unilaterally” sending in the US Navy to deliver aid was a “political ploy” to “undermine the UN” should not be taken seriously on any subject.
Spiny Norman on January 13, 2010 at 4:11 PM
If you have any type of skills even if they are only being able to sweep up after builders then you would be of use. Our little church in the out backs of NE Arizona just sent 2 people to Samoa to help rebuilding efforts there. My guess is that when they get back in 3 weeks we will start the process to send some to Haiti.
chemman on January 13, 2010 at 4:13 PM
More from dave742
http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/02/03/who-are-the-suicide-bombers/
kingsjester on January 13, 2010 at 4:13 PM
He’s an honest seeker-of-the-truth, who just happens to believe that the US is a puppet state of Israel.
notropis on January 13, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Uh, the story that you link to was published almost 4 years ago.
I miss dave741 more and more.
Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM
May Haiti emerge from this anihilation with some form of effective government in place.
kingsjester on January 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Don’t know much about the poster in question, so at the moment, I am withholding judgement. But I do have to wonder where people get the idea that Israel can control the USA.
And I do hope it isn’t just another “moneygrubbing jews” reasoning, that’s about as “tired, worn-out
policiesreasoning of the past” as one can possibly get.KinleyArdal on January 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM
If they had called Europeans cheap and smelly I might have objected.
Are you saying we’re both hypocrites? For the record, I don’t think Ed is right — or can be right — if he thinks American generosity is unique to the world. But he’s not insulting anybody too severely by shaking the tip jar with an appeal to our better nature.
Where have I done this?
With that, I’m going to bow out. I think we can both agree that the thread would be better spent discussing how we can help Haiti recover from this terrible disaster.
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2010 at 4:19 PM
Of course not, yet they are dual use machines are they not? Ever seen a Coast Guard rescue chopper; they have pintle mounts near the doors for mounting machine guns. Are they being built strictly for rescue operations?
The point is not WHAT the carriers are being built for, it’s the indisputable fact that all the money in the world won’t help anyone if the relief supplies can’t get to the victims. Saudi Arabia provides cash, that’s great, now how do they plan on getting it there?
Bishop on January 13, 2010 at 4:20 PM
From his own paper, which he links and is so proud of:
“Israel (who is also colored in red because the US is a puppet state of Israel)”
notropis on January 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Dave 742 the problem with what you are arguing is that you can never account for all the individual acts of giving that Americans do. See my 4:13 pm post.
Many, many Americans jump on planes or jump in their cars and go to where help is needed and pay for this themselves or others cover those costs so their skills can be utilized in an area that needs it. To slam American’s because they don’t donate in manner you find acceptable is quite judgemental on your part. Since you find quoting Scripture to support your position (Widow’s mite) how about taking the log out of your eye before trying to take the splinter out of our eyes.
chemman on January 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM
The tectonic plates acted stupidly.
O/
revolutionismyname on January 13, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Some reputable organizations that provide world aid are asking for donations:
Habitat for Humanity
Red Cross
Doctors Without Borders
I know it’s kind of a meager list. Please add more.
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2010 at 4:25 PM
TBN needs to motherf*king fire Pat Robertson.
Apologetic California on January 13, 2010 at 4:25 PM
1. Knowing what we know about the Haitian government, they will exagerrate this disaster in order to attempt to extort as much from our coffers as possible.
2. It’s not the US government’s responsibility to solve the problems of foreign nations, especially those in the Third World who have nothing to offer us in terms of resources or trade.
But I have no problem with the stream of private donations that will surely come from American citizens and organizations.
Sign of the Dollar on January 13, 2010 at 4:26 PM
insert internet sideways shifty-eyes.
>.>
Dave, are you a crazy person, or just committed to self-righteousness?
KinleyArdal on January 13, 2010 at 4:29 PM
Lies to us? Or lies to yourself?
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 4:33 PM
What do you actually know about the Haitian government? Did you know that they held elections in 2006, and again this past year?
I know that some members are under the rubble of the Presidential palace, and quite a few more are under the rubble of many other buildings.
notropis on January 13, 2010 at 4:35 PM
Then he pretends that such actions never happened, because such an assumption supports the conclusion he is trying to prove.
MarkTheGreat on January 13, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Awful, just heartbreaking. You can help
ronsfi on January 13, 2010 at 4:45 PM
One of the reasons I’m so proud of this service. The USNS Mercy and other ships bearing Sailors and Marines will head on down to Haiti and help that nation recover from this terrible tragedy. U.S. Navy: A Global Force for Good. (O.k., yeah I thought that was lame when I first heard it, but it rings pretty true now.)
Rightwingguy on January 13, 2010 at 4:47 PM
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