Green jobs stimulus will cost $135,000 each

posted at 1:36 pm on January 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

As part of his “hard pivot” towards jobs, Barack Obama announced last week a new program to stimulate “green jobs” with a $2.3 billion federal program.  Mark Tapscott took a look at the particulars of the grants and checked with the Institute of Energy Research, which had already grabbed its calculator.  The bill aims to create 17,000 jobs, mainly temporary, which means that we’ll spend over $135,000 per job in stimulus:

President Obama’s announcement earlier today of an additional $2.3 billion in federal tax credits for  creating approximately 17,000 subsidized temporary jobs in the green energy industry is drawing a less than enthusiastic response from Thomas J. Pyle, president of the Institute for Energy Research:

“Show me one other industry that requests and receives a nearly 30 percent taxpayer subsidy. That’s what the wind and solar industries require – at a minimum – to exist. All the president did today is throw more money at an unproven technology that is not economically viable in the marketplace. Unfortunately, the only winners in this latest taxpayer giveaway will be Wall Street money managers and corporate interests in the wind and solar industry.

“If the president really wants to create an environment that will foster economic growth and job creation, he need not look any further than the domestic oil, gas and coal industries. These three industries and energy sources built this nation. For the administration to continue to ignore this fact and to keep the vast resources that taxpayers own under lock and key at the Department of Interior is irresponsible and a disservice to the American people.

“The Outer Continental Shelf (OCS), if opened for business, would create over 1 million high-wage jobs. It would reduce our dangerous dependence on hostile nations for their energy resources and spur economic growth across all 50 states. Development of these energy resources will create sustainable employment, not taxpayer dependent make-work jobs.”

To put this in perspective, the $2.3 billion would create less than 25% of the jobs that were lost in December alone — and only temporarily.  Thus far, the economy has not had much problem in generating temporary work; it’s one of the few growth categories of 2009.  Normally, that would be seen as a harbinger of job growth as businesses use temp workers to ramp up production, which then requires permanent workers to maintain.  However, in this case it seems as though businesses have begun to rely on temp workers as a hedge against onerous new rules coming as part of ObamaCare, as well as to have more flexibility on staffing when new taxes start hitting the bottom line, mainly on energy costs with cap-and-trade proposals.

IER makes a good point, though, on American resources being ignored by the Obama administration.  We have an abundant reserve of oil off of both coasts, and it wouldn’t take government money to create those jobs.  Indeed, by expediting the leases off of the OCS, private industry would create hundreds of thousands of jobs, mainly high-paying union work, while shifting more of our oil demand onto domestic resources.  That alone would bolster the dollar, which would have the effect of driving down energy costs in both real and exchange-rate terms — a boon for the economy at a moment when it desperately needs an invigorating impulse.  In fact, the government would increase its revenues at both the federal and state levels by issuing the leases, rather than spending $135,000 per temporary job.

Why aren’t we doing that, if it’s such an economic no-brainer?  The Obama administration doesn’t want to encourage the use of fossil fuels; that’s why Interior Secretary Ken Salazar make it more difficult to get leases last week, rather than easier.  No-brainers require actual, working brains to recognize, apparently.  (via QandO)

Update: Scott Lincicome says it’s an utter boodoggle, and there is plenty more wrong with it.


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Isn’t that what we are spending for every union job at Government Motors?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Development of these energy resources will create sustainable employment, not taxpayer dependent make-work jobs.

That’s why it’ll never happen. If they aren’t government funded jobs, they aren’t real jobs.

lorien1973 on January 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM

135 K per “green job”?!? Boy I got screwed cutting yards when I was a kid.

Dire Straits on January 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Cool beans, only $135,000 to collect cans/

Knucklehead on January 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Government “efficiency” = B+

Give it up, Obama. You and your cronies have no idea what the hell you’re doing.

Get out of the private sector. OUT. And stay out.

Good Lt on January 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM

The Obama administration doesn’t want to encourage the use of fossil fuels; that’s why Interior Secretary Ken Salazar make it more difficult to get leases last week, rather than easier.

Brilliant. That’s exactly what the economy needs right now with 10% unemployment and gas prices approaching 3 bucks a gallon.

Doughboy on January 12, 2010 at 1:41 PM

It’s payola, not stimulus.

notagool on January 12, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Green jobs stimulus will cost $135,000 each

That’s a bargain compared to porkulus. Didn’t those jobs cost the taxpayers something into 7 figures each?

And they were all temporary….

UltimateBob on January 12, 2010 at 1:42 PM

what a deal!

ted c on January 12, 2010 at 1:43 PM

I think the worst about this is that we’ll pretty much have to import all the labor, since Europe is far ahead in terms of education/training/etc.

We totally have blown it on this. We’re still talking about light bulbs, for gosh sakes.

I feel like Smokey the Bear is going to reappear any day.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:44 PM

So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant business, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted taxes we will impose.

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 1:45 PM

I’m sure all those green jobs will be had by people wearing purple shirts…

PatriotRider on January 12, 2010 at 1:46 PM

I think the worst about this is that we’ll pretty much have to import all the labor, since Europe is far ahead in terms of education/training/etc.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:44 PM

I blame the Dept of Education.

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

How about the report not long ago about spending 7 million to weatherize a couple dozen houses?Who is really pocketing this money?

theTarCzar on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

This President is acting stupidly.

portlandon on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Im still trying to figure out what a green job is.

becki51758 on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

I am pretty sure I can’t afford this.

Cindy Munford on January 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM

The Congress in 2006 set all this in motion —On purpose –to stall our economy — in order to win the Presidential election in 2008 with the help of acorn and the unions and the global warming hoax they did it — to me it seems , Middle America is the target — they want to make us Serf’s …

wheels on January 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM

I, for one, am excited at the prospect of seeing Green legislation producing thousands upon thousands of new jobs. Economic salvation is at hand, woohoo!

Tonus on January 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM

What would have saved us is to have Obama on the job sooner.

jukin on January 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM

***
Sign me up! I would come out of retirement for this amount.
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Don’t waste any of this valuable “green jobs” money on real improvements–like building nuclear power plants, drill here / drill now, etc. stuff. Throw more bucks into the “green jobs” black hole instead.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on January 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Anyone know what a green job is?

Urban Infidel on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

No, they have working brains and they are doing exactly what they want. Obama said that he had no issue with $4 a gallon gas, he just wished it wouldn’t have happened so quickly. Now it’s hovering around $2.60 and it’s been going up methodically over the last few months.

So they know exactly what they are doing. They really want gas to get back to $4 a gallon or higher. And if green jobs were so profitable then why in the world does the government need to pay for them?

MobileVideoEngineer on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

blame the Dept of Education.

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

I don’t. I blame short-sighted visa policies and academia. The real jolt is that a lot of the college education is obtained here. Then the experience needed is gained in Europe. It’s like any complex technology, of course, where apprenticeship is half the game.

*arrrrrggggggghhhhh*!

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Anyone know what a green job is?

Urban Infidel on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

It sounds good, eh? I agree. I’ve decided it’s people who install weather-stripping.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:57 PM

This is not another stimulus, it is “targeted actions.”

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Im still trying to figure out what a green job is.

becki51758 on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Any government job that uses no electricity or fossil fuels and costs the private sector at least 2.1 jobs in exchange.

Keep up with the Democrats Liberals Progressives Populist lingo, please.

;-)

Mark Boabaca on January 12, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Anyone know what a green job is?

Urban Infidel on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

It used to mean a job you received by paying a politician with enough greenbacks.

portlandon on January 12, 2010 at 1:57 PM

That’s why it’ll never happen. If they aren’t government funded jobs, they aren’t real jobs.

lorien1973 on January 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Exactly.

They are unsustainable without government subsidies.

Which is exactly what the government wants.

cntrlfrk on January 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Anyone know what a green job is?

Urban Infidel on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Green job = unemployed.

lorien1973 on January 12, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Anyone know what a green job is?

Urban Infidel on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Uhhhh… any job the Government subsidizes by taking the Green from YOUR pocket?

Romeo13 on January 12, 2010 at 2:00 PM

The actual wind turbines and solar panels are increasingly being made in China. So I would guess most of these jobs are installation/maintenance in nature.

Nuclear power plants FTW.

GnuBreed on January 12, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Well, of course this administration and congress aren’t going to pursue anything resulting in “1 millions high-wage jobs.” Demokratic party=the party of dependency.

anglee99 on January 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM

It’s like any complex technology, of course, where apprenticeship is half the game.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

We do a good job of kicking out the desireable\legal immigrants and throwing out the welcome mat for people that diregard our rules and laws.

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Forgot something: ROLL TIDE ROLL!

anglee99 on January 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Well, of course this administration and congress aren’t going to pursue anything resulting in “1 millions high-wage jobs.” Demokratic party=the party of dependency.

anglee99 on January 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Darn it! “1 million…”

anglee99 on January 12, 2010 at 2:04 PM

I want a green job

faraway on January 12, 2010 at 2:05 PM

This President is acting stupidly.

portlandon on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Sadly, this is not an act.

JusDreamin on January 12, 2010 at 2:05 PM

It seems to me like there is a “middle-ground” solution that would appeal to all sides of this issue.

Open up the OCS, open up the massive shale formations, open up ANWR, etc, to environmentally sound, domestically based energy production – this would have an absolutely incredibly positive impact on the economy, on the employement situation, to our standing in the world, etc. as noted by Mr.Tapscott and Mr. Morrissey in this posting.

AND THEN:

Take all the money earned from the leases, add a small percentage sur-tax to all money generated from the energy produced and designate it for research, feasibility studies and incentives for the use of non-carbon based energy INCLUDING ADVANCED NUCLEAR ENERGY!!

Our current problem is, that 100% “green” energy production simply is not yet ready to power this nation, although it likely will “have” to be at some point in our future. This plan allows us to produce energy domestically, gets us out from under foreign producers, reduces our trade imbalance, strengthens our currency, creates massive numbers of living-wage (high-paying) jobs, provides non-taxpayer funded money for research, development and desimination of future energy sources and on and on and on.

The advantages are so massive and so obvious that the American people should be rising up en masse and insisting the government get off its butt and put this type of plan into immediate action.

(I’ll accept a small consultant’s fee for solving this nation-wide problem of 1/10th of a percent of the monies generated by the increased production).

Fatal on January 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM

Well, I am a little relieved. I would have thought that this administration couldn’t have “created” a “job” for less than 7 figures.

The exasperating thing is that the so-called “educated class”, as the Beltway cockroaches likely consider themselves, doesn’t seem to grasp that any “stimulus” that doesn’t accelerate wealth generation enough to cover its cost through the concomitantly increased tax revenue actually destroys jobs.

Or maybe they do get it, and just don’t care.

mr.blacksheep on January 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM

My ‘green’ stimulus proposal — I’ll just stay home so I don’t have to drive my car to and from the office, and the government can pay me only $125,000/year. It’s a bargain!

LASue on January 12, 2010 at 2:10 PM

Where do I apply?

Philly on January 12, 2010 at 2:10 PM

He’s a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.

He’s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see

faraway on January 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Fatal on January 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM

Good post. And there’s support for that kind of balanced thinking.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 2:14 PM

We do a good job of kicking out the desireable\legal immigrants and throwing out the welcome mat for people that diregard our rules and laws.

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM

I know. Crazy.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Anyone know what a green job is?

Urban Infidel on January 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Mucking out the unicorns’ stalls.

ya2daup on January 12, 2010 at 2:18 PM

Spain did this exercise already with overwhelming negative results. I know Paul Krugman would approve this kind of venture but that doesn’t flatter those who possess common economic sense. You don’t invest $1.30 for every $1.00 you might make later on unless you are a government run program. Stupid is as stupid does and this is stupid.

This is the rock that Obama was talking about earlier this past year in building his economic recovery. It, like all the rest of these destructive socialist policies, they are geared at spending money we don’t have and spreading it around to the people the government approves of, period.

Americannodash on January 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM

This is not another stimulus, it is “targeted actions.”

WashJeff on January 12, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Via a “hard pivot”.

ya2daup on January 12, 2010 at 2:22 PM

No science is immune to the infection of politics and the corruption of power.

DougDavis on January 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM

I want a green job

faraway on January 12, 2010 at 2:05 PM

I want a light-skinned job.

TXUS on January 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM

Just wait till this summer, when gas prices top 4 to 5 dollars.

People will be screaming for these green jobs.

Sir Napsalot on January 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM

I think the worst about this is that we’ll pretty much have to import all the labor, since Europe is far ahead in terms of education/training/etc.

We totally have blown it on this. We’re still talking about light bulbs, for gosh sakes.

I feel like Smokey the Bear is going to reappear any day.

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:44 PM

I don’t. I blame short-sighted visa policies and academia. The real jolt is that a lot of the college education is obtained here. Then the experience needed is gained in Europe. It’s like any complex technology, of course, where apprenticeship is half the game.

*arrrrrggggggghhhhh*!

AnninCA on January 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Ann,

American companies have been installing wind turbines and solar panels inside the US for dozens of years. The labor is here to do this now, if it were economically possible to make this stuff pay its own way to begin with. We have zero need to depend on Europe for any of this. Our engineers can install oil rigs and wind turbines with equal competence.

So called “Green Jobs” are nothing more than technology from the 1980s being used in government subsidized projects all over the country. My former employer installed 4 wind turbines at GITMO in the early 2000s, among many other sites. Two of my former employers installed hundreds of solar panel projects across the US. All of these projects showed that only when subsidies are provided by government do they become cost effective. The paybacks for them, with subsidies is out around 20 or 30 yrs. The paybacks for lights and variable speed machines is closer to 3-7 yrs. If it won’t pay back from energy savings in 3 yrs, most commercial companies can’t fund them. And no business is going to take out a 30 yr loan to make itself profitable in that period of time.

While many large manufacturers of wind turbines are foreign companies, US companies could easily come up with plenty of competition in a few years. The backlog for large wind turbines, however, is over 18 months before your order even begins to get built, such is the backlog. So any project utilizing wind and many solar panels is likely to take 3-5 yrs to reach construction anyway.

Bottom line: “Green Jobs” are totally useless “feel good” project oriented makework that save minimal energy and are unreliable in the extreme when completed, and are unable to become reliable energy sources all over the US to replace “fossil fuels”. If it could be done economically, then it would have already been done. When gasoline becomes much more expensive because it is truly scarce, only then will electric cars and solar energy and wind become useful. And by that time, civilization will be unable to sustain itself beyond the poverty level because it will be too expensive to buy an aspirin, much less worry about how to fuel your transportation.

You persist in believing in fantasies about clean energy coming from systems with no continuity of power, and clean emissions from some fantastic suspension of the Laws of Physics and Chemistry which insist that heat comes from chemical reactions in all fuels that then generate CO2 and Water as waste products. All energy consumption in the world today, except nuclear power and solar and wind energy come from this basic premise. And manufacturing solar panels and wind turbines requires energy from fossil fuels.

Green Jobs are a Lie!

Subsunk

Subsunk on January 12, 2010 at 2:24 PM

theTarCzar on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Uh-huh, that’s the question!

Al in St. Lou on January 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

I want a green job

faraway on January 12, 2010 at 2:05 PM

I want… a l!ght-skinned job.

TXUS on January 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM

They said that Reagan gave us Voodoo economics. Obambi has given us Doodoo economics.

MJBrutus on January 12, 2010 at 2:29 PM

No kidding.

The fastest growing jobs (average over 170k per year) is in the government.

Sir Napsalot on January 12, 2010 at 2:29 PM

As sneaky as this administration is, they will find a way to call short-term jobs such as Census takers, a Green Job because the surveys are on green-colored paper.

yoda on January 12, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Obama’s serious about his ideology. About the economy, not so much.

After he makes his hard pivot, Obama’s job creation thrust will be health care reform, together with new gubmint hiring.

petefrt on January 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Change beauracracy and waste you can believe in.

la.rt.wngr on January 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM

March 27 (Bloomberg) — Subsidizing renewable energy in the U.S. may destroy two jobs for every one created if Spain’s experience with windmills and solar farms is any guide.

petefrt on January 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM

They said that Reagan gave us Voodoo economics. Obambi has given us Doodoo economics.

MJBrutus on January 12, 2010 at 2:29 PM

well poot, put

la.rt.wngr on January 12, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Im still trying to figure out what a green job is.

becki51758 on January 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM

That is where a polititian’s crony gets the green.

Johan Klaus on January 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM

As seen at Jerry Pournelle’s site, 02 NOV 2009:

One estimate is that 500 nuclear power plants would make America energy independent. I think that is optimistic in that an abundance of electricity doesn’t mean we won’t need to import oil for transportation needs, but it would certainly take us a long way toward independence. The cost would be in the order of 2 billion per plant (I would think less; that is the first one might be 4 billion, but the 400th would be considerably less than a billion; but call it 2 billion). That is one trillion dollars, comparable to the TARP or stimulus — and for once a deficit would be financing something real.

It is less than the cost of the war, and less than the war is going to cost if we continue. Cheap reliable energy would be one major step toward economic recovery. Low cost energy plus freedom will bring prosperity. If we have the energy we can work on the freedom. The whole thing could be accomplished in four years. Of course the ravening wolves in the Congress won’t do it — but then it’s not likely that this is the kind of hope and change we can believe in from the current White House.

But it would work. France knows the value of nuclear power. Why can’t we learn it?

To think the ‘stimulus’ could have actually made a difference in our energy generation, put us on a path towards long term oil import reduction, established a sizeable distributed nuclear power network using safe Gen 3 and 4 designs, and removed a major pollutant source from our economy. Too bad that isn’t considered ‘Green’, huh?

Smart, yes. Wise, yes. Green, no.

So how come the geniuses in the Obama Administration, ‘the smartest guys in the room’ couldn’t figure this out? Was it a room full of toddlers when the smartness was measured?

Remember every couple of billion handed out in political cronyism, graft, corruption… each and every $2billion is one nuclear plant. When you hear of billions in pork, remember this.

Oh, and your electricity bill would go down, too. We have safe and secure resources for nuclear plant materials right here in the US. And it might even spur on vitreous encapsulation of low level radioactive waste if we don’t have good secondary processing facilities for it… both of which would help to blunt or eliminate the environmental impact of nuclear waste. But that would be smart, too. Not Green, but Smart.

ajacksonian on January 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM

They’re going to run the country right into the ground. Then stand there looking stupid going “What?”.

GarandFan on January 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM

As a job creator, there’s also the elephant in the room nobody talks about: SHALE OIL under the Rockies. A 2005 Rand report estimates between 0.5 and 1.1 TRILLION barrels of recoverable shale oil in western Colorado, eastern Utah, and southern Wyoming.

If we import about 14 million barrels a day, that works out to about 5 billion barrels a year–even the low-end estimate would represent 100 years’ worth of US oil imports. Develop this resource, and the US could tell every hostile oil-exporting country to go fly a kite because WE DON’T NEED THEIR OIL !

According to the RAND report, the shale oil could be extracted in an environmentally-friendly way (in-situ heating) for about $30 to $40 per barrel. Allow $10/barrel profit for the oil companies, and American oil would be underselling foreign oil, and foreign producers would have to LOWER THEIR PRICES to compete with US !

Plus, if oil companies invest $30/barrel x 5 billion barrels per year = $150 billion/year, how many jobs can THAT create, with NONE of the money from the taxpayers?

Admittedly, it would take about 20 years to develop this resource on a commercial scale, but the best way to have a forest in 20 years is to plant trees NOW. If the land were opened to development, the jobs would start NOW, we put everyone on welfare to work in the Rockies, and the oil would flow later. But for NOW, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, former Senator from Colorado, hath decreed “thou shalt not seek shale oil under my Rockies”, and jobs go begging, and the shale oil sits there waiting…for what?

Smart power…my @$$

Steve Z on January 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM

We have an abundant reserve of oil off of both coasts, and it wouldn’t take government money to create those jobs. Indeed, by expediting the leases off of the OCS, private industry would create hundreds of thousands of jobs, mainly high-paying union work, while shifting more of our oil demand onto domestic resources.

Welcome to the party. Those aren’t our only oil reserves. Shale oil reserves promise years of additional fuel, and it’s easier than ever to get. And the natural gas industry is experiencing a lot of growth in America. Opening up Federal lands to developoment would create new revenue for Uncle Sam and for the states where the resources are.

But that would reduce reliance on government handouts, so it’s a non-starter for President B.O.

hawksruleva on January 12, 2010 at 3:25 PM

If the land were opened to development, the jobs would start NOW, we put everyone on welfare to work in the

Rockies, and the oil would flow later. But for NOW, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, former Senator from Colorado, hath decreed “thou shalt not seek shale oil under my Rockies”, and jobs go begging, and the shale oil sits there waiting…for what?

Smart power…my @$$

Steve Z on January 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Any family or company that needed money would lease those resources in order to raise funds. Uncle Sam prefers to beg China for money, and crank up the printing presses, while keeping its citizens reliant on government aid.

hawksruleva on January 12, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Atlas shrugged…Liberty wept.

Wyznowski on January 12, 2010 at 3:52 PM

Green Jobs Program to Recycle Two Non-Green Jobs for Every One New Green Job Created http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/10/green-jobs-program-to-recycle-two-non.html

Mervis Winter on January 12, 2010 at 4:01 PM

I am in the green job solar industry (for two different companies over the years) and their business motto is “design for China or India”. Cheap labor and these Countries are already geared up for production. Plus the fact that a tremendous amount of energy is needed to produce the materials for solar panels, energy is far cheaper in these Countries as long as they don’t sign up to Cap and Tax.
Solar panels are cool but I can’t see an American economic future in it. A watt produced here is a watt that we don’t have to import through fossil fuels but unfortunately we bleed money out of this country through foreign labor. It’s a wash.
You want to have real energy that keeps money from bleeding out of this Country, nuclear and hydro. You want to gain the wealth in this country, you need something that can be exported. We don’t have anything that can compete on the energy market. Labor is too high and the Government will tax us to death. The best we can do is stop the bleeding and look for some other area to increase the wealth. No real sustaining jobs in energy.

Electrongod on January 12, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Stupid is as stupid does. Thank god money grows on trees.

patrick neid on January 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Thank god money grows on trees.

But only on the trees on the way from the WH to the Capitol building. Certainly not in my yard.

PoodleSkirt on January 12, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Green jobs stimulus will cost $135,000 each

So the jobs are GREEN because they are made out of our money??

And all the time some naive folks thought “green jobs” had something to do with vegetation…

SUCKERED AGAIN by the OBAMABOTS!!!

landlines on January 12, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Green jobs stimulus will cost $135,000 each

Save money, I’ll do one of them for $100,000.

patch on January 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM

The communist dupe lies!!!

jgdp on January 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Where do I get in line for one of those jobs?

TrickyDick on January 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM