Video: Record-breaking “cold snap” hits nation
posted at 10:55 am on January 11, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The year so far looks like a bad one for advocates of anthropogenic global warming. Despite the lack of progress on imposing global restrictions on the emission of carbon dioxide, the Earth has hit a cooling trend. Temperatures have plunged to record lows across the US, freezing crops and threatening a big hike in heating-oil prices in the Northeast. MS-NBC reports on the damage already felt in Georgia and Florida, two states used to having warmer winters:
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How can this be happening if man-emitted CO2 creates a greenhouse effect that amplifies warming? One set of scientists predicted the cold weather this year, and says that AGW hysterics misread multi-decadal oscillations as a permanent trend — and that cooler weather will be the norm for the next 20 to 30 years:
The bitter winter afflicting much of the Northern Hemisphere is only the start of a global trend towards cooler weather that is likely to last for 20 or 30 years, say some of the world’s most eminent climate scientists.
Their predictions – based on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans – challenge some of the global warming orthodoxy’s most deeply cherished beliefs, such as the claim that the North Pole will be free of ice in
summer by 2013.According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 – and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this. …
Prof Latif, who leads a research team at the renowned Leibniz Institute at Germany’s Kiel University, has developed new methods for measuring ocean temperatures 3,000ft beneath the surface, where the cooling and warming cycles start.
He and his colleagues predicted the new cooling trend in a paper published in 2008 and warned of it again at an IPCC conference in Geneva last September.
Last night he told The Mail on Sunday: ‘A significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles – perhaps as much as 50 per cent.
‘They have now gone into reverse, so winters like this one will become much more likely. Summers will also probably be cooler, and all this may well last two decades or longer.
Note that Latif isn’t exactly a total skeptic of AGW, but believes that the warming trends that AGW hysterics exploit were mainly temporary fluctuations. And this winter appears to bear him out.
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This cooling trend is an isolated incident.
LibTired on January 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM
yeah, but it grows by 100 feet each year that dad gets older…..
BTW, anyone check the temp in the oval office today? I think the east coast suffers a brown out when the thermostat kicks on in there…
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM
If “global warming” was the reason for the left to push government control over everything and extortionate taxation, does this mean they owe us smaller government and abolishment of the income tax?
Rebar on January 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Strawberries are different from citrus. The blooms are a bit more sensitive and if you lose those, you don’t get fruit. Bad thing is that we won’t know the extent of the damage about a month from now.
Lay-Z on January 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Future Drudge headline:
Dems Propose Bailout For Frozen Fruit Growers
darwin on January 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Maybe we can increase our carbon usage and get the temperatures up?
paul1149 on January 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM
The Church of Global Warming says the earth is dangerously heating up, but I know that it is not, for I have seen the snow and ice and have felt their bitter cold, and I have more faith in snow and ice than in the Church of Global Warming, and it’s High Priests.
- Ferdinand Magellan’s Great Nephew
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM
Remember, when it gets cold in Winter, it’s a natural variation in temperature.
When it gets hot in the Summer, Gore will emerge from hibernation spout more “it’s Bush’s fault and we’re all going to roast to death!”
catmman on January 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM
I just got 158 gallons of fuel oil at $2.47 a gallon. Can’t wait to see what the price is in the next few weeks. Luckily I bought price protection this year.
Johnnyreb on January 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM
We’re having a heatwave in the MidS-outh today. It’s 26 degrees already, heading to 43. How are things in Carthage, TN, Albert, you scam-artist?
kingsjester on January 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Take the extra energy consumption this winter, add the cost of building windmills and carbon taxes. Next year the cost of staying warm will be twice as high.
seven on January 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM
I love the smell of schadenfreud in the morning. Anytime I complain about the science behind global warming, I’m told that my being a ‘chemist’ doesn’t qualify me to comment on that science. I always had one word for those jerks: EQUILIBRIUM.
What we are seeing now is our planet equilibrating. Increasing temps mean increased water vapor. Water evaporation consumes energy (that’s why sweat cools the body). Even if you eliminate solar activity (which is like climate without weather) the laws of physics are incontrovertible. The planet will equilibrate through cycles of heating and cooling, which is precisely bourne out throughout history.
But what do I know? I aint no stinkin climastrologist.
You have to have no knowledge of history to be a liberal.
Carolina Kat on January 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Has anyone seen my sunglasses and suntan lotion? We are in the 70′s here in so. cal, not to rub it in.
rjoco1 on January 11, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Al started a hoax. Which started the whole world thinking they were going to be a frying.
But what Al didn’t see was that the joke would be on he.
Oh, no, Al started to cry. Which started the whole world laughing.
Oh, if he’d only seen that the joke would be on he.
Al looked at the skies. Running his hands over his eyes.
And he fell from his throne. Hurting his head from things that he’d said.
Till Al’s power finally died. Which started the whole world
livingdrilling.Oh, if he’d only seen that the joke would be on he.
Oh, no, that the joke would be on he.
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Good question…
Maybe one that Al Gore can answer that before a Grand Jury in a R.I.C.O case.
Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM
What color is frozen carbon dioxide, because there sure is a lot of white stuff falling from the sky around here?
Yoop on January 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM
kingsjester on January 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Well, inside the Gore compound which uses 20 times the electricity a month the average consumer uses in a year, it’s nice and toasty – thank you very much!
catmman on January 11, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Al looked at the skies, running his hands over his iced up eyes.
And he fell from his royal throne, cracking his head on the ice and choking on things that he’d said.
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM
I’m not even sure why liberals stop at just the weather.
If Gaia is angry, then Gaia is angry. Warming, cooling, hurricanes, hail, earthquakes, volcanoes, tidal waves… It’s ALL because of your SUV.
Repent now. And there’s no “or else” either. Because the earth is already doomed for our sins no matter what we do. But at least if we give up our evil ways, Mother Earth will be slightly slightly less angry while she kills us all.
logis on January 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM
6 months from now, this will all be forgotten and the push for carbon regulation will begin in earnest.
Cap-n-Trade boy and girls. It’s what’s for dinner!
Kini on January 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM
that’s stuffing from spontaneously exploding polar bears. This dang heat is causing them to bloat like a balloon then they pop and shower the earth with white fur and polar bear stuffing…. save some, it may be a collector some day when they’re really extinct (at least after they stop multiplying).////s
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Just the *threat* of taking action was enough to convince the planet to change it’s ways or else.
Yay Algore!
Midas on January 11, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Not only is it freezing here in Florida but, this evening we get to sit outside for 2 soccer games. So, we now have to carry blankets and portable heaters just to keep warm. See, they play soccer during the winter months because it is cooler than in the summer time. They didn’t however expect it to be so cold that if you are not careful you could end up stuck to the metal bleachers.
milwife88 on January 11, 2010 at 11:53 AM
so the soccer moms can’t wear the requisite bikini and heels to juniors soccer game there in FL this week? At least all the military soccer moms…?//
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM
This winter is three weeks old, and we are getting winter weather; since when is weather the same as climate?
By the way, 2009 was one of the ten hottest in history. So much for the “reversal” in climatic warming.
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:01 PM
catmman on January 11, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Yep. And inside the Oval Office, it’s a toasty 85 degrees.
His comfort, our money.
kingsjester on January 11, 2010 at 12:04 PM
Carbon emissions cause global
warmingcooling.Global cooling is proof of global warming.
petefrt on January 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
kingsjester on January 11, 2010 at 12:04 PM
dude; rush just said he can’t wait until snerdley gets back from vacation so he can fetch him a cup of coffee
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
ohhhsnap—the justice brothers
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
I just stopped laughing. Now he’s eviscerating the Breck Girl, John Edwards and his wife.
kingsjester on January 11, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Harry, Al, and Breck are going hungry today…they’re lunch and tomorrow’s lunch is getting eaten all up right now…!!!
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
See the climate is changing! It’s climate change brought about my umm by ummm steam! Yeah it’s the steam that factories produce! Steam is a pollutant!
- The Cat
MirCat on January 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
When Harry met Robert—–oooh,
ted c on January 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Not in the U.S. , which happens to be where so much of that carbon comes from.
They’re getting snow flurries in Orlando today, you need to come in from Fantasy Land.
redhead on January 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Suffered the same when I point out that any theory climatologists propose need to account for the well understood laws of chemistry and physics.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM
The year 2009 was one of the ten hottest in global history.
They had flurries in S. Florida decades ago; this is not anything new.
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM
HT Drudge: FEDS: December was 14th coldest in 115 years…
petefrt on January 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM
That’s only true after the data has been cooked.
The uncooked satellite data gives a completely different answer.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM
And every summer it gets warm, which is proof that there is no global warming.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Global Seasoning. Remember when it was just one season, you know, before all the man-made Co2?
Hening on January 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM
Global history? Are you totally daft? It was much hotter than this 1000 years ago. 5000 years ago made 1000 years ago look cool.
I agree that 30 years ago they had flurries in S. Florida. 30 years ago, the PDO was in it’s cool phase. Then it switched to it’s hot phase. Now it’s switched back to the cool phase. Which just shows that the PDO, all by itself has more impact on the climate than CO2 does.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Then the EPA would have to designate it as a Toxic Supersite.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Since history began in 2009 it is not surprising that it would be counted among the 10 hottest.
VerbumSap on January 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM
By “hotter than this”, you mean what?
Carbon dioxide affects climate? How so? Are you confusing “weather” with climate”? If not, how am I confused?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
As my daughter the computer techie would say you suffer from the ID-10-T error. The earth is estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old. Humans have actually been taking temperatures for maybe 200 years. So while it may have been one of the warmer ones since the 30′s it certainly can’t be called one of the ten hottest in global history.
BTW they were growing grapes in Greenland during the Mideval warming period which required significantly higher temperatures than we have seen in the last 10 year.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Are we talking about Greenland’s local climate here, or about a global phenomenon? What was the rest of the world like in the Medieval warming period? What conclusion are you attempting to draw from this quote of yours?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:52 PM
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
I agree that you are confused.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 12:53 PM
Stop digging you are fouling the atmosphere with all the dirt.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 12:53 PM
OK, feel free to educate me.
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM
According to whom?
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM
You need to study the principles of Equilibrium. If Greenland was warm enough to grow grapes at that latitude then the heat gradient in the atmosphere was higher elsewhere hence the climate was warmer worldwide than today.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM
Cooling trends are like tracking polls. Obama ignores them.
Besides, it just gives him an excuse to visit Hawaii more often. “Hey, you cracker with the uniform and brass buttons…carry my clubs to my helicopter. Chop chop, boy.”
Extrafishy on January 11, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Just as likely.
eeyore on January 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM
So, if one region has a particularly warm year (decade, century), then all other regions follow suit?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM
How even the most faithful of the Global Warming flock would not be, at the very least, questioning their faith by now, given that we never really did have much global warming at all and have been, if anything, in a cooling trend for the last ten years, is truly amazing. Even Mother Teresa is reported to have questioned her faith on a few occasions. Didn’t even Jesus question his once?
Al Goracle must be the envy of all the other gods.
OR Al Goracle is the god who least favors subjects capable of reason.
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM
I nominate that comment as one of the most ignorant EVER made on the internet AND in global history.
Yoop on January 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM
The Laws of Thermodynamics are called laws for a reason.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Al Gore and his followers will not be pleased
Geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the US Solar and Heliospheric Observatory also show that there are currently no spots on the sun. He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.
“This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930,” Dr Chapman noted in The Australian recently.
Now this 11-year low in Sunspot activity has raised fears among a small but growing number of scientists that rather than getting warmer, the Earth could possibly be about to return to another cooling period. The idea is especially intriguing considering that most of the world is in preparation for global warming.
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM
This is apropos of what, in particular?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 1:04 PM
Able to guzzle more energy than dozens of normal men! Producing more hot air than a locomotive! Able to pile up carbon credits higher than a tall building in a single bound!!!
Look UP in the sky! It’s ChickenLittle! It’s FlyingSnakeOilSalesman! It’s the Sultan of Hanging Chads! It’s the Ayatollah of Heat! No, it’s CarbonMan in a private jet painted green! And now following in the tradition of other great men such as Jimmy Carter and Yasir Arafat, he is the proud recipient of a Nobel Prize!!!
CarbonMan, strange visitor from an alternate reality who came to Earth with claims and scary predictions far beyond those of any sane and honest man, disguised as Fat Albert, and now joined by other members of the Royal GreenLeague such as BioFuelHummerMan and EcoCleaningWoman, they all fight a never ending battle for science-fiction, hypocrisy, power grabbing, money grubbing and the Hollywood way!
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Mark, arguing with some trolls is like trying to teach a pig to sing. Usually pointless, but if you succeed you can take it on the road and make some real money. If not, well…you tried.
Extrafishy on January 11, 2010 at 1:08 PM
I question the timing.
DavidM on January 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM
The movement of energy. For the atmosphere to sustain temperatures high enough in Greenland to grown grapes the heat energy had to come from somewhere. The flow of energy is from areas of high concentration to areas of low concentration. That means the energy concentration of the atmosphere was higher than that of Greenland moving south toward the equator. No different than what we experience today expect that the heat flow is lower or we could still grow grapes in Greenland.
chemman on January 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM
But, but, …but… it could be the first time in global history!
Then again, it could just be annoying the pig.
Yoop on January 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM
There is a big yellow ball in the sky that influences the Earth’s mean temperature far more than any one or for that matter, any 7 billion of us could.
otcconan on January 11, 2010 at 1:16 PM
So, then, it can never be warmer at a location that is closer to the pole(s) than it is in a location closer to the equator?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 1:19 PM
New troll aversion program:
Saturday at 3:45 a raccoon was seen.
angryed on January 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM
Data doesn’t matter. America is still eeeeevil.
bitsy on January 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Very true. Cold = you die of hypothermia. Or starvation. Heat = you die of thirst.
What do you need to stay warm? Gas, or oil, or coal. Fossil fuels…non-renewable.
What do you need to stay hydrated? Water…the most renewable and abundant resource on Earth.
otcconan on January 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM
# NOAA scientists project 2009 will be one of the 10 warmest years of the global surface temperature record, and likely finish as the fourth, fifth or sixth warmest year on record.
# The 2000-2009 decade will be the warmest on record, with its average global surface temperature about 0.54 °C (0.96 °F) above the 20th Century average. This will easily surpass the 1990s value of 0.36 °C (0.65 °F)
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Where’s the Goracle for a little of that Climate Change?
yoda on January 11, 2010 at 1:35 PM
In Search of said the ice age was coming.
I remember watching this one when I was a kid. It was scary. Spock said we were doomed.
forest on January 11, 2010 at 1:43 PM
I don’t believe those guys.
I’m going with Spock on this one. He’s more credible.
forest on January 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM
It’s apparent your ass ain’t sittin’ up here in Minny.
The sun could go supernova and it still wouldn’t be warm enough for most of us.
Why do you think we elected Franken? We don’t live here cuz were smart…
Bruno Strozek on January 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM
How many times must you ignorant, knuckle-dragging,gun-toting, Bible clinging, neanderthal cretins have to be told–it’s getting COLDER because it’s getting WARMER.Honestly can’t you people understand anything?Just ask AL Gore,he’ll be happy to debate it with any one. The messiah Obama will fix it as soon as he fixes the economy,makes everyone healthy and wealthy,pays all of your bills,and brings Islam into the 21st century.Just give him time.He’ll take care of it.Honest
Really.I mean it this time.Just wait,you’ll see.Besides,it is all Booosh’s fault anyway.
DDT on January 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Ugh, as always I have to point out that I wish I was wrong. As a New Englander, I really wish global warming was real.
RightWinged on January 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM
I also think the Sunspots themselves when they are appear are smaller than previous cycles. Something is changing.
Oil Can on January 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Woah there skippy, you previously said 2009 was one of the hottest years as a fact. Now it is merely a projection. Are these the same “projecters” who worked at the CRU?
More interesting: You struggle to find any reason to doubt warming 1000 years ago, attempting to call it regional change whereas you find any reason possible to support warming today, claiming any cold weather is also regional.
In short: It is global warming solely when it is convenient for your argument.
BKennedy on January 11, 2010 at 2:44 PM
Liberals believe that laws are for other people, not them.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 2:48 PM
You can lead a dork to knowledge, but you can’t make him think.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 2:48 PM
From everything I’ve seen, global warming has zip to do with your local temps. In fact, fluctuations in local temps supports global warming concerns.
It has everything to do with the melting of the ice caps, and that’s still happening.
I think cap-and-trade is a stupid idea. It’s a tax, not a solution.
I think ignoring global warming as “baloney” is equally stupid.
Just my 2 cents.
AnninCA on January 11, 2010 at 2:51 PM
This is only true if you look at the now discredited CRU/NASA data, which is itself not real data, but rather an unspecified subset of real data that has been adjusted through super secret methods to a point where even their own mothers would no longer be able to recognize them.
If you look at reliable data, the last decade has been cool and is continuing to cool.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Antarctic was never melting, in fact it is continuing to get colder down there.
Arctic melting was a one year event that has completely reversed itself.
You really do like to cling to your myths, don’t you.
MarkTheGreat on January 11, 2010 at 2:59 PM
See? These kind of _accurate_ predictions are what you get when you use _real_ science.
Theophile on January 11, 2010 at 3:09 PM
Yep. In southern Ilinois. And I have the Hillbilly accent to prove it.
http://www.thom.org/photos/ILGGgods.jpg (This is at Garden of the Gods in southeastern Illinois. I have a photograph that I shot at about the same spot. I counted 30-some Goblin “faces” in these rock formations. Of course, the formation in the back is called Camel Rock)
http://users.midwestmail.com/nightlife/cdalerocks/treasures/03zLaRueB.jpg (This picture is from “Inspiration Point” in southwestern Illinois. From there you can see across the Mississippi River into Missouri. Down the other side of this ridge of hills is a spring that has the sweetest water I have ever drank.)
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2982711500033402703DymgHj
(This is the Little Grand Canyon. I had a cabin a good morning’s hike from there. At the top of this climb used to be a Ranger lookout tower. I tore it down in the ’70s. The foundation to it may still be there. I haven’t been back there in about 25 years.)
Southern Illions is a whole ‘nuther place from the rest of flat featureless Illinois and ChiTown.
davidk on January 11, 2010 at 3:13 PM
And if all the ice melts, we’ll have plenty of water.
davidk on January 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Honey, you are right when you say the ice caps are melting…they melt away some ice most every year…now finish the sentence.
The ice is melting, but more ice is forming, there is a greater mass this year then last, ice has been building on the ice caps for decades.
That’s like saying the ice is melting in your glass, as your ice machine is producing ice…yes, it is melting, but more ice is being made.
You know all those dramatic pictures of calving? Yeah, more ice is there…now poor a little something on those melting ice cubes and relax…
right2bright on January 11, 2010 at 3:28 PM
And in case you missed it in the other thread, Ramirez score another zing:
http://townhall.com/cartoons/cartoonist/MichaelRamirez/2010/01/3
davidk on January 11, 2010 at 3:31 PM
For the trolls who don’t understand how climate works, please visit Watts Up With That? and educate yourself.
Anthony Watts provides all of the information you could ever want, along with the real charts and data to back it up.
The link is to a graph representing 10,000 years of temperature data (mostly from ice cores). As you can see, the warmer temps from the last decade are a barely visible blip in the annals of history. Also note the huge, long-term ice ages. Cold seems to be more of the norm for the planet than warm and cold is NOT conducive for the advancement of life, including humans. Far more people die, and species go extinct in the cold from starvation and disease.
It’s probably no accident that the great age of human exploration was during the Medieval Warm Period.
Common Sense on January 11, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Show me the data. Educate me.
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM
So, a little bit of warming is good, and much more warming is better?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 3:48 PM
Keep your two cents…
Deanna on January 11, 2010 at 4:57 PM
This is the opposite of what I have read. The overwhelming amount of info is that the last decade was cooler than the previous one.
MB4 on January 11, 2010 at 4:57 PM
What is this “overwhelming” amount of information? What are your sources for this information?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 5:18 PM
From the source that you cite above…
December 2009 had the fourth-lowest average ice extent for the month since the beginning of satellite records, falling just above the extent for 2007. The linear rate of decline for December is now 3.3% per decade
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 5:22 PM
Don’t get these liberals started on global cooling-then we’ll go back to the 70′s and 80′s with talks of SNOW BLITZES where the Amazon rain forest will be covered with 100 feet of ice and polar bears will be patrolling the streets Singapore. The same carbon dioxide, currently blamed for golbal warming, will be accused of blocking out the sun’s rays. Worse yet, Al Gore will become a billionaire selling portable heaters to tropical Africa.
MaiDee on January 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM
Sigh.
Please leave scientific thinking to those who are more prepared for it.
There is no data out there that has proven that ‘global warming’ is happening.
Even NASA’s temp data sets from the ocean’s surface are in question.
Their temp calculations don’t even take cloud cover into consideration when mapping surface ocean temps.
So from the beginning all this ‘data’ has been suspect.
The slate needs to be wiped clean & a new data set obtained using TRUE scientific methods & principles.
So eat your balonely & keep reading the tabloids.
Badger40 on January 11, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Typical AGW zealot:
“I went outside today & it was hotter than it was last year-ergo we have global warming!”
Badger40 on January 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM
What is your area of expertise? Any formal training or degrees in atmospherics or climatology?
oakland on January 11, 2010 at 5:33 PM
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