Obama quietly abandons magical “jobs created or saved” metric for even phonier metric
posted at 5:23 pm on January 11, 2010 by Allahpundit
Given all the heat they’ve gotten for pulling numbers out of their ass to inflate the amount of jobs “created or saved” by our $787 billion handout to Democratic special interests, the logical thing to do would be to clean up their act and be more conservative with their estimates.
But as partisans of both sides would agree, logic doesn’t always help win elections.
The memo, first noted by ProPublica, says that those receiving stimulus funds no longer have to say whether a job has been saved or created.
“Instead, recipients will more easily and objectively report on jobs funded with Recovery Act dollars,” Orszag wrote.
In other words, if the project is being funded with stimulus dollars – even if the person worked at that company or organization before and will work the same place afterwards – that’s a stimulus job…
Rep. Darrell Issa of California, the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, wrote to the chair of the Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board Earl Devaney saying that “the new guidance counts every jobs that is funded using stimulus money – even if it existed before the Recovery Act, and was not in any danger of being eliminated – as ‘created or saved.’ This definition ignores the plain meanings of the words ‘created’ and ‘saved’ and makes Recovery.gov’s ‘JOBS CREATED/SAVED’ label a falsehood, further eroding the confidence of the American people in their government.”
Makes sense. Why continue the sham of insisting that the stimulus is generating new jobs or protecting old ones? The bleaker the national unemployment picture looks, the more absurd that rhetoric sounds. Enter the new rhetoric: If you’re taking federal money, even if you’re not hiring or laying anyone off, you are ipso facto stimulated. Some examples from Pro Publica:
* When Chrysler reported a $53 million contract to build 3,000 government vehicles last fall, it listed zero jobs because it used existing employees to fill the orders. But under the new rules, those workers would have counted.
* The Associated Press found that some recipients were counting pay raises as stimulus jobs. That will be OK under the new rules, but only if they are counted as fractions of a job.
* The California state auditor rapped the state corrections department for reporting 18,000 jobs instead of just 5,000 officers who had received layoff notices before stimulus money came in. But under the new guidance, the corrections department may have been right because stimulus money is helping it make payroll for all its employees.
If the “stimulus” standard’s that low, why don’t they start handing out vouchers to people on the street redeemable for goods and services at American businesses? An AP analysis published this morning and reviewed by five economists found that stimulus funds spent on infrastructure projects has had no effect — zippo — on local unemployment rates. Quote: “”There seems to me to be very little evidence that it’s making a difference.” Why not just abandon the dopey job metric entirely and focus on driving up demand?









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If a private business did this sort of accounting; its executives would be in jail.
Or getting a bailout.
Probably a bailout.
lorien1973 on January 11, 2010 at 5:55 PM
They may be liars, but at least their consistent liars.
ClanDerson on January 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Solid B+
revolutionismyname on January 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
It should be jobs lost or destroyed, shouldn’t it?
roninacreage on January 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
I thought for sure the new metric was going to be number of new zip codes created.
WashJeff on January 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
It seems fitting that a man who has never had a job can’t find the correct word to identify one.
daesleeper on January 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Shameless.
But then, they’re Democrats.
NebCon on January 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Why not just claim we have 100% employment, after all 100% of the employed are employed.
fourdeucer on January 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
/double facepalm
Enoxo on January 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Depending on their bundling skills.
Cindy Munford on January 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Wow. Pretty soon it’ll be ‘the government prints money, so whoever has money can thank the government’…
joejm65 on January 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
What heat? They got away with the “created or saved” idiocy. They said it all the time, for almost a whole year, and it almost always went through without a question or comment – save a handful of times that no one remembers, anyway.
neurosculptor on January 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
I am funding a federal job – that’s a peace prize!
cyclown on January 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
why not? epic fail whatever metric dear leader uses…
cmsinaz on January 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Leprechaun hat count?
Chuck Schick on January 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Probably a bailout from stimulus funds, to create or save those jobs :D
apollyonbob on January 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
lol. It’s actually the number voters who damn well better understand who is buttering their bread.
pedestrian on January 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Saved or created jobs = B+
Brat4life on January 11, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Make no mistake. A consensus of the best experts agree.
Drained Brain on January 11, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Keynesian economics = solid B+
Take note, Kruggy and Co.
Good Lt on January 11, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Counting magic beans
Philly on January 11, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Why don’t they just hand out 100 dollars to each homeless person on the street?
STIMULUS, WINGNUTS!
Good Lt on January 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Let me be clear. A consensus of the best experts agrees.
Drained Brain on January 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
There are those who say that my stimulus isn’t working and isn’t creating or saving jobs in the private sector.
Let me be clear. A consensus of the best experts agrees.
Good Lt on January 11, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Orszag is a criminal. He is complicit in defrauding taxpayers.
marklmail on January 11, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Just think what tremendous impact $787 billion in tax cuts and tax credits to businesses to stimulate hiring would have had.
Instead, flat line failure and our children in debt…
enoughalready on January 11, 2010 at 6:05 PM
If a private business did this sort of accounting; its executives would be
in jail. aspiring community organizers.lorien1973 on January 11, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Rovin on January 11, 2010 at 6:06 PM
. . . just words.
BigAlSouth on January 11, 2010 at 6:07 PM
No one said he wasn’t a mathamagician.
rjoco1 on January 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
S.S.D.D.
OhioCoastie on January 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Slightly OT – Instead of a “phonier metric”, the One has apparently decided that Pinky Reid’s statements about race were only “INARTFUL”.
So he is now channeling Charles Dickens as the Inartful Dodger.
singlemalt_18 on January 11, 2010 at 6:09 PM
There’s ONE job the fraud can’t “save” – HIS OWN!
GoldenEagle4444 on January 11, 2010 at 6:09 PM
This year I will be “funding” the destruction of as many jobs I can afford… among incumbent Democrats and RINOs.
TXUS on January 11, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Sort of like
congressBernie Madoff.Johan Klaus on January 11, 2010 at 6:10 PM
What’s Bidens metric?
Cybergeezer on January 11, 2010 at 6:10 PM
If I read the post using a ‘negro dialect’…
… can I get a job with the Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board?
Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2010 at 6:10 PM
I’m just waiting for the White House to produce a commercial with the Count from Sesame Street….. “One, One Job Created, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
dddave on January 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Why don`t they just skip all this hocus-pocus accouting and go to the winning political idea:
Total funds ($787 billion) divided by average U.S. wage = Total jobs created.
Forget accounting for the jobs, just say it happened.
albill on January 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Yay, the liars are in charge!
rbj on January 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Jobs funded, so now the number will be astronomical since the administration will claim every employee from every company that got so much as a single dollar.
Bishop on January 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM
“Saved or created” is now “imagined or conjured.”
Cicero43 on January 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM
So can the unemployed write “amount funded for payment by Stimulus” on their overdue/ past notice bills and send them in?
portlandon on January 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Hmmm
Whats I gonna do I axx
Gubmint job
or Obama monay from his stash
OOOOh LLord !
macncheez on January 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM
I know this is “semantically picky” Allah, but there’s nothing “democratic” about collecting/stealing taxpayer dollars and giving it to special interest.
Rovin on January 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Jobs manufactured or preserved!
ThePrez on January 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Two, Two Jobs Created, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
dddave on January 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Not surprised. I’ve decided the whole Keynesian theory has always been a sham. Just a rationalization for spending more.
ROCnPhilly on January 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Do they think that all of us who are unemployed will just not notice?
Derrrrrr
bridgetown on January 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Because that doesn’t get cash into the unions pockets directly. Barry has to confiscate a lot of our money to pay them back.
rightside on January 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Do the ACORN and SEIU morons get counted as ‘Jobs funded by Stimulus dollars’ when they’re out ‘working’ on behalf of the CletptoCrats and Obama’s administration or do they have to count their extracurricular work as their normal job…sponging off the taxpayer.
BigWyo on January 11, 2010 at 6:24 PM
They don’t realize that many unemployed people have more time to watch what they are up to.
thomasaur on January 11, 2010 at 6:26 PM
I still have a job. Thank you so much Mr. President. I just know that if you hadn’t been there to “save” it, it would have just up and went away.
MJBrutus on January 11, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Why don’t they just hand out 100 dollars to each homeless person on the street?
STIMULUS, WINGNUTS!
Good Lt on January 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
They will on election day.
Howcome on January 11, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Cool, I didn’t know I have been stimulated……
conservnut on January 11, 2010 at 6:30 PM
You just saved a room full of Democratic strategists six months of brainstorming.
Extrafishy on January 11, 2010 at 6:32 PM
Wow…I don’t know about y’all, but I sure feel better now…/sarc
uncivilized on January 11, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Simple. That would put the purchasing decision in the hands of the folks. Never fly…
JusDreamin on January 11, 2010 at 6:36 PM
All the jobs created are for people that have to lug around Obama and company’s wallets because they siphoned off so much of the “stimulus” for their own use.
Vntnrse on January 11, 2010 at 6:36 PM
well, the U.S. has been resistant to adopting lots of “metric” systems over the years, so this is nothing new.
dissent555 on January 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM
Don’t forget the follow-on whispering campaign to suggest that the unemployed who disagree are nothing but racists who deserve to be out of work- thus making it acceptable to despise the jobless.
highhopes on January 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM
It would not cost enough.
Slowburn on January 11, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Well, Orszag has had his mind on other things lately…
d1carter on January 11, 2010 at 6:44 PM
1984 has finally arrived, a quarter century late.
FalseProfit on January 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM
The former Enron accountants need something to do.
faraway on January 11, 2010 at 6:46 PM
So the best course of action would be to tell every company that gets porkulus funds to fire everyone, then rehire them on the spot. Bingo NEW JOBS CREATED!!
angryed on January 11, 2010 at 6:46 PM
And yet there are still those who believe that debates about Keynesianism vs Austrian economic theory are ‘just technical’.
JDPerren on January 11, 2010 at 6:49 PM
Says it all :)
froginthesky on January 11, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Why can’t Obambi quietly abandon the White House? It would fit his style.
Cybergeezer on January 11, 2010 at 6:50 PM
This could be a Liberal Democrat theme song for all their policy fixes for America throughout the yesteryears and onward to oblivion.
(Stephen Bishop)
It’s The Same Old Tears On A New Background,
Seeing you as a fading photograph
It hurts too much to laugh these days.
I’m all right, yes, I’m all right, all right.
It’s the same old song with a new melody,
But this old candle’s lingering flame is almost gone,
To see you again is all that keeps me hangin’ on.
I’m all right, yes, I’m all right, all right.
Remembering, remembering the familiar heartache,
No one but you
It’s the same old me crying the same old tears
And I walk away like I always do
Still in love with you.
But I’m all right, yes, I’m all right, all right.
All right
Recind all the future allocations of the bogus stimulus package dollars.
It’s like the same old democrat singing the the same old song but this old scandal has been lingering too long so let’s do what we democrats normally do and give it a new background and take another run at it. After all, if we democrats stall out long enough with this new background the american public may forget what we were trying to do before. They took at least six months to a year the last time so let’s see how long it takes them to catch on to us this time.
Exhibit A:
The Science is settled – Man made Global Warming > Man made Climate Change >> CO2 is a pollutant >>> Cap and Trade >>> CRU caught with manipulated data >>>> Copenhagen collapses
Americannodash on January 11, 2010 at 6:51 PM
All farming jobs are saved. He renamed them “green jobs”
seven on January 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM
Hell, why doesn’t Barry just make up numbers monthly. Everyone knows he’s lying through his teeth anyway.
And just where is Sheriff Joe to ‘keep everything honest’?
GarandFan on January 11, 2010 at 6:59 PM
SO Obama made 140+ million jobs?
I still maintain this is one huge bet by the donks to see who can tell the biggest lie and get away with it.
jukin on January 11, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Obowma spends more time changing the ‘dialect’ instead of fixing the problem…?
Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Here is an idea for the democrats because it would make sense to them. Why? Because it follows liberal democrat logic.
When you stop to fill up your car with gasoline, deflate your tires completely and reinflate them with new air. That will improve your mileage. Everybody knows that the old air was really tired and wanted to be set free to stretch out its molecular legs anyway. Inflate fresh air into your tires at every fill up in the future, your inner tubes will be grateful.
/
Americannodash on January 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Shameless boobs.
ultracon on January 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM
The only number that mean anything in our economy is the number that can’t find jobs and that number keeps going up.
docdave on January 11, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Simple. Here’s the single deal-breaker: it won’t have strings attached, unlike the Porkulus money spent through states, with various conditions.
What’s the point of passing stimulus bills if you can’t use that to control private enterprises and state governments?
Handing out vouchers would … seem too much like Bush tax cuts that helped us out of the last recession. And that’s another problem—now you’d be wasting a crisis.
novakyu on January 11, 2010 at 7:48 PM
So he’s going to take credit for EXISTING jobs?
Taking credit for “funding” “existing” jobs.
Didn’t we used to call that “block grants”?
jeanneb on January 11, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Hey, Reid said Obooba can fake de ol’ negro dialect when he wants to impress people who fall for that. All he’s doing now is changing his tune to impress people who fall for that.
Akzed on January 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Hmmm, methinks that there has been a mispronounciation by all. BarryO most certainly was referring to Jobs, i.e., the historical Biblical character that had all his worldly possessions stripped away, who suffered for many years of disease (due to rudimentary and rationed medical care, amongst other reasons), and was a pawn in the Big Bet. Jobs are definitely being created. Saved, that’s for later.
Robert17 on January 11, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Isn’t there some banana republic somewhere that needs an extremely faulted administration?
Sonosam on January 11, 2010 at 8:48 PM
It would be humorous if it wasn’t so sad how naive folks like you continue to be, Allah. Did you really ever believe that the “stimulus” was intended to “stimulate” anything?
RightWinged on January 11, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Commenter #1…Actually, they would probably be appointed to the Obie Won administration.
TimothyJ on January 11, 2010 at 9:21 PM
Conjure away, dipsticks! What you cannot escape at the unemployment statistics (particularly U6) and you will be judged against that standard. Sure sucks to be you!
ya2daup on January 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Figures don’t lie
but liars can figure
KZnextzone on January 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Because they have to sell Stimulus II, not to stimulate anything, but to provide another round of unaffordable pay-offs. Chicago on the Potomac baby. We are being ripped off and cannot do a thing about it.
exdeadhead on January 11, 2010 at 10:47 PM
It’s a piece alright!
Amendment X on January 12, 2010 at 12:07 AM
As I have always said:
“Ain’t he got purty teeth?”
Jimmuh Cahtuh has a serious challenger for Worst President Ever.
hillbillyjim on January 12, 2010 at 2:34 AM
They seem to be getting the message their BS isn’t working, so they decide to try different BS with the same result.
What is the definition of insanity? Isn’t it something about repeated behavior and expecting a different outcome?
It appears they have a few fries missing from their happy meal.
dogsoldier on January 12, 2010 at 6:33 AM
Why can’t they apply this “logic” to “global warming”. It could be “degrees cooled or not raised” or something and they could claim victory. Now that’s a phoney baloney metric I could agree with.
darwin-t on January 12, 2010 at 6:41 AM
I’m quite certain that Minitrue is busy scrubbing all kinds of media for any offending references even as I type…
schafkopf on January 12, 2010 at 8:40 AM
Would that be jobs funded in actual congressional district and zip codes or fake ones? If they can create jobs, I want to create my own zip code.
Kissmygrits on January 12, 2010 at 9:52 AM
It all goes back to the definition of is is.
Jobs, schmobs, after a few more drinks.
‘You guys worry too much. Don’t you know you are in good hands?’ — BHO
Sir Napsalot on January 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM
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