Great news: Oliver Stone documentary to put Hitler “in context”
posted at 6:27 pm on January 11, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Weasel Zippers. Platoon, JFK, The Doors: Isn’t this guy’s work supposed to be some sort of cinematic window into the historical memory of Boomers? I didn’t realize that “Hitler got a bad rap” was floating around in there alongside Woodstock and acid.
At least we know the film will be scrupulously accurate.
“Stalin, Hitler, Mao, McCarthy — these people have been vilified pretty thoroughly by history,” Stone told reporters at the Television Critics Association’s semi-annual press tour in Pasadena.
“Stalin has a complete other story,” Stone said. “Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person. We can’t judge people as only ‘bad’ or ‘good.’ Hitler is an easy scapegoat throughout history and its been used cheaply. He’s the product of a series of actions. It’s cause and effect … People in America don’t know the connection between WWI and WWII … I’ve been able to walk in Stalin’s shoes and Hitler’s shoes to understand their point of view. We’re going to educate our minds and liberalize them and broaden them. We want to move beyond opinions … Go into the funding of the Nazi party. How many American corporations were involved, from GM through IBM. Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated.”…
Stone said that conservative pundits will dislike the show.
“Obviously, Rush Limbaugh is not going to like this history and, as usual, we’re going to get those kind of ignorant attacks,” said Stone, who also also compared the experience of sympathizing with war criminals to making his “W” movie about George W. Bush. “I’m trying to understand somebody I thoroughly despised.”
Haven’t heard a good backhanded Bush/Hitler analogy in awhile but that’ll do nicely. Exit question one: Anyone not think his “contextualization” of an economically depressed Germany turning to populist political terror is going to end in some sort of half-assed tea-party analogy? Exit question two: Why does Stone assume that only conservative pundits will object to trying to understand Stalin’s and Hitler’s “point of view”? Not saying he’s wrong, but I’d love to hear him explain.









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The premise could be interesting, if not coming from a nutjob like Stone. I’d like to see a good depiction of exactly how a monster like Hitler came to be. Clearly, he had likable qualities to be able to achieve what he did.
DaveS on January 11, 2010 at 7:03 PM
He fought the German war machine more than any single person.
Oh yeah, You could get shot by the germans or your NCO.
faol on January 11, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Whittaker Chambers:
Because, Chambers said, McCarthy unintentionally helped the pro-communist movement by disgracing the anti-communist movement with his reckless charges.
Again, to lump McCarthy with Stalin or Mao or Hitler is obscene.
SteveMG on January 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM
I thought Bush was bad?
Well, if Hitler was misunderstood, were his Storm Troopers, Brownshirts and other henchmen also misunderstood?
Someone should ask him that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z6Uolqm6gI&feature=player_embedded
The above link is to a film documentary of the death camps of WWII. Ordered by Ike. The first 3 minutes of the video shows the paper documentation as well as the voices of those doing the filming. Very graphic images.
JellyToast on January 11, 2010 at 7:06 PM
It’s clear that Stone is trying to defraud his investors by putting on the biggest movie flop ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo
Illinidiva on January 11, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Golly, I hope Stone properly portrays Hitler and the things he stood for: Anti-capitalism, socialism, vegetarianism, gun control, eugenics, euthanasia, abortion, animal rights, neo-paganism, antisemitism, and hating Christianity. Time’s man of the year in 1938.
http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/
I was wondering when the left would try to rehabilitate this great progressive.
theCork on January 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Stone is a lousy filmmaker, a commie, and now a nazi sympathizer. Hitler, in context? Stone, you ignorant, evil son of a bitch.
Dino64 on January 11, 2010 at 7:10 PM
What is the “S” in NAZI stand for????
Killing of the competition doesn’t count. Hilter is left
Oil Can on January 11, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Everyone forgets what Hitler did for the dominatrix industry. He made the whole evil Nazi woman hitting you a whip all fashionable.
Rbastid on January 11, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Great News: Meremortal documentary to put Oliver Stone in concrete.
Meremortal on January 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM
I think we need to understand Stone more. Perhaps we need to make a film about him.
Nah. That would be stupid.
badtemper on January 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM
You know…
One day, these ‘Hollywood’ types will make one too many movies that cross one too many lines.
Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Allah, do you read the Green Room posts? Seems like someone might have already mentioned this…
Diane on January 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM
These leftists have absolutely no problem whatsoever with totalitarianism, as long as it’s their guy in the catbird seat. They worshiped Uncle Joe (Stalin) until they couldn’t quite explain MASSIVE mass murder and some of the left from America was actually thrown into Stalin’s Gulags.
Hitler was a scapegoat?! Seriously?!! If you want to call universal condemnation of an individual who signed off on pogroms, purges and the industrialization of mass murder scapegoating, well alrighty then- he was a scapegoat.
Oliver Stone is mentally deranged, as is much of the left. If he dares to make the comparison between Hitler, the SS and the SA to tea partiers, then he can kiss his career as a film maker goodbye. People are fed up with this lunacy and we damn sure don’t have to pay our hard-earned money to watch his propaganda.
alwaysright43 on January 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Actually the pro-communist media did more damage to McCarthy than the truth. The Venona more than anything proved that. But I know better than argue with you because you are right more often than my ex-wife and she was never wrong.
thomasaur on January 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Arguing with Grow Balls is Casting Pearls Before Swine, as the troll knows only garbage and writes only garbage
‘NaZi’ comes from the German pronunciation of the first two syllables of ‘national’ in the German language-’not zee’ . The five words in the party title were shortened to the first two syllables of the first word
Janos Hunyadi on January 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Hitler was not all bad. All that he did was kill millions of People. But, he had shovel ready jobs to build Autobahns. So, he put people in concentration camps; he built the Volkswagen. There are all kinds of possibilities for Stone, after all Oliver did prove the Kennedy. conspiracy.
Johan Klaus on January 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM
DaveS on January 11, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Not being funny or anything, but have you ever read Mein Kampf? Likeable? I don’t think so.
Dino64 on January 11, 2010 at 7:17 PM
FAIL. The whole reason we are so much less forgiving of Stalin and Hitler is precisely BECAUSE we already understand their point of view…. and it matches the current POV of modern leftists, to a great degree.
Conservatives study history. Liberals rewrite it.
Animator Girl on January 11, 2010 at 7:18 PM
He also doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his great contributions to cinema.
RINO in Name Only on January 11, 2010 at 7:18 PM
Ever notice how these guys like to put folks like Hitler and Stalin in context…but American pioneers and settlers are just imperialists and racists and murderers…
Terrye on January 11, 2010 at 7:19 PM
Perhaps Oliver Stone will be moved to do the same for Lucifer using the Rolling Stones “Sympathy for the Devil” as his inspiration.
stormin1961 on January 11, 2010 at 7:20 PM
It’s amusing how you guys will argue that the slaughter of lefitsts by Hitler was done not becuase of ideological disagreement, but for political expediency, yet you won’t admit that the using of the title “Socialist” itself was done for political expediency. Anyone who thinks the Nazi’s were committed leftists is a moron. They called themselves whatever would help them consolidate political power in the quickest and easiest fashion, so they could initiate their far right dreams.
Yeah, they pretty much did.
crr6 on January 11, 2010 at 7:20 PM
X10…all I can say. Very well done. In otherwords, “Look in the mirror, Moron!”
Chewy the Lab on January 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
McCarthy was vilified, but he was right about communism.
Johan Klaus on January 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
++
angryed on January 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
There’s a fine line between Contrarian and A55hole.
ronsfi on January 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
And it is not just liberals either, I have heard Pat Buchanan do some revisionist history that just made my toes curl..extremes meet.
Terrye on January 11, 2010 at 7:22 PM
Nazis were socialist.
Johan Klaus on January 11, 2010 at 7:23 PM
History is written by the winners. Obama won.
LibTired on January 11, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Its called getting rid of the competition. Hitler and Mussolini both admired the philosophy of Karl Marx.
mizflame98 on January 11, 2010 at 7:25 PM
The thing is, though, Buchanan isn’t really that much of a conservative, at least not in the American sense. He’s more of a protectionist than some democrats – which is, if you think about it, exactly the kind of nationalistic socialism that the Nazi’s embraced (not saying Buchanan is a Nazi or anywhere close, just that he has a similar nationalistic bent to what is basically a leftist economic philosophy.)
RINO in Name Only on January 11, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Let me guess…Mao is the only Asian in the group? /s
mizflame98 on January 11, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Are you really that stupid?
“Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.”
– Time Magazine article from 1939
So to answer my question….yes you are that stupid.
angryed on January 11, 2010 at 7:27 PM
He’s half jewish no less.
True_King on January 11, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I guess the point here is that, if you’re going to make the attempt to “understand a point of view” of a particular historical figure, you need to do so with the intent and ability to be intellectually honest about whatever you discover in the process. For instance, both the right and left should recognize similarities to their own policies in those of historical figures with whom they’d really rather not be associated. It’s just responsible behavior in the study of history. The problem here is that Stone has demonstrated himself incapable of doing this without passing judgment: his crucifying of Bush in “W,” and now his likely sympathizing with mass murderers Stalin and Hitler. Choosing a perspective is his prerogative as a filmmaker, but presenting his fictionalized films as viable historical study is not.
Animator Girl on January 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Can we judge them as “Stoned”?
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on January 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM
And Darwin.
Johan Klaus on January 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM
If a government McCarthy type showed up in todays Hollywood to look for communist… it would be for Job Recruitment..
GoodBoy on January 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Wow, talk about blurring the line between fantasy and reality (among other things)…
ProfessorMiao on January 11, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Grow Thumbs will love it!!!
Well, believe it or not Mr. Potato Head, some questions can be answered with a yes or no.
BigWyo on January 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM
That comment sums up everything in your post: Crap
Hitler slaughtered ALL of his opponents, including army officers, communists, nationalist leaders, union organizers, gypsies, Jews, foreigners–everyone he saw as a threat
My point was that Hitler admired and copied the most of the methods and some of the goals of the Left–and he did. That’s what the left ( including a POS like you ) loves about him, even though he saw you as a similar but dangerous rival that needed to be exterminated.
Go back hanging around public toilets, you creep.
Janos Hunyadi on January 11, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Sung to the Patsy Cline Tune:
I go out walkin after midnight
Out in the starlight
While Wearing Hitler’s shoes
I go out walkin after Midnight
searching for joooz!
mizflame98 on January 11, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Congratulations, angryed, on that magnificent pwnage of crr6. You made my evening!
Mary in LA on January 11, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Buchanan is a lot like Ron Paul when it comes to issues like this. Buchanan is a paleoconservative. He was always considered a conservative on issues like immigration, but when it came to Israel he just went off the deep end. The guy is far right, and far right and far left are often very much the same.
Terrye on January 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Not to mention this Administration.
Johan Klaus on January 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Rent…netflix….Winds of War….the start up of WWII
War and Remembrance….WWII….will fill in gaps, lots of facts, dates and real footage.
Glenn is doing a documentary on all of these nutjobs…will be the anti-Stone.
Should be passed out to every junior and high school in the World.
nondhimmie on January 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM
So where does this leave Democrats who have in the past liked to denigrate our soldiers by comparing them to Nazi Storm Troopers?
JellyToast on January 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Or, perhaps I should have said:
“Everybody must get ‘Stoned’!”
Well, what can you expect from a Dylanttante?
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on January 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM
yes, crrap6 IS that stupid: Always was, always will be
Hitler was a leftist who used racism and a perverted nationalism to gain power. The Left has been increasingly using racism and its own perversion of nationalism as tools, with the current Demo Party as Exhibit One.
The only thing the Left doesn’t like about Nazis is how effective the Nazis were at killing them
Janos Hunyadi on January 11, 2010 at 7:36 PM
He’s a paleoconservative. Him and Lew Rockwell and others are basically neo-Birchers who will lap up this kind of stuff.
MadisonConservative on January 11, 2010 at 7:37 PM
I will tell you this, if Stone came face to face with a Comanche warrior, he would be hoping and praying for the cavalry to come save his ass. People like this are always running their mouths about imperialism and capitalism and yet they owe everything they have to people who risked life and limb to build this country. Think there is any chance Cameron will give his profits from Avatar to some Native American scholarship fund? Hell no. And Stone is the same kind of charlatan.
Terrye on January 11, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Snort/Chortle
thomasaur on January 11, 2010 at 7:37 PM
..and it is a marvelous insight into a comm/simp pinko liberal screen writer’s mind that he’d lump “Tailgunner Joe” in with Hitler, “Uncle Joe”, and “The Dear Leader”.
No, not Obama, the other Dear Leader.
VoyskaPVO on January 11, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Agreed!!!!
And as an added bonus, it probably caused Grow Thumbs to go back to pulling the wings off flies for awhile.
BigWyo on January 11, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Hey, Uncle Joe also fought the Polish war machine too when he pulled off a great victory in Katyn forest.
ieplaya on January 11, 2010 at 7:43 PM
There is a little bit of a “what is in a name?” issue here. It’s true that the phrase “far right” gets used a lot to describe people with Buchanan’s views. But if you define left and right according to the current meaning in mainstream politics, and then define “far left” and “far right” as extreme, uncompromising versions of the corresponding mainstream ones, then Buchanan doesn’t really fit the mold – he is with the right on what I would call national integrity, but totally with the left on economics. It is true, though, that there is a leftist and a rightist argument against immigration – the left coming from protectionism, and the right from national integrity.
Maybe not surprisingly, Buchanan’s old boss Nixon was very similar. Nixon’s administration was extremely protectionist. Not to mention, rather infamous on the right for advancing affirmative action.
RINO in Name Only on January 11, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Joseph Goebbels said:
I think I believe Goebbels over the tard known as CRR.
CWforFreedom on January 11, 2010 at 7:53 PM
If you really want to put Hitler in context read Mein Kampf and then read Obama’s Dreams From My Father and Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.
These books are all ideological. The writers all wrote they meant and meant all they wrote.
The only difference: Hitler carried through completely with his vision; Obama hasn’t had time to do it + he has a big hurdle he has to bypass, circumvent or overcome-the American Constitution. Give him enough time to neuter the Constitution like Hitler he’ll have his way as well.
IMHO, that is the only context to understand Hitler.
technopeasant on January 11, 2010 at 7:53 PM
F*ck Hitler’s point of view. If Stone is serious about that, then his new movie will be an adaption of Mein Kompf.
That book is Hitler’s explicit view.
If you’re curious as to how he came to power, then read Hannah Arendt’s The Origins of Totalitarianism, who unlike Stone, is a real scholar and not a burned out Hollywood windowlicker.
Frost3 on January 11, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Great read on socialism and totalitarianism
http://mises.org/story/1937
CWforFreedom on January 11, 2010 at 7:55 PM
Fair enough, that’s probably the best word for him. Or maybe “kook”.
RINO in Name Only on January 11, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Hey Ollie, we already know Hitler liked dogs and children, so who needs to know more about Schiklegruber’s good side. Do a movie about all the German’s who lived thru WWI and into WWII who did NOT become like Hitler, but ended up with their country being run by a fascist dictator, if you have a need to to do a flick. In the movie you can draw parallels between Nazi Germany and Obama’s America. That would be worth making.
JimP on January 11, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Unbelievable level of pompous self admiration, and mental illness! I think thats called Malignant Narcissism…but thats O.K. negro…you’ve done so much for “the cause”, we’ll just not notice your flaming insanity.s/
Itchee Dryback on January 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM
“Stalin, Hitler, Mao, McCarthy — these people have been vilified pretty thoroughly by history,”——-McCarthy? When Libtards start with their moral relativism they just lose all sense of scale.
WarEagle01 on January 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM
I would recommend the book Hitler’s Willing Executioners by Jonah Goldberg, but his conclusion that the German people in general agreed with Hitler’s anti-semitic ravings probably wouldn’t jibe with Stone’s preconceived notions.
We are living in topsy-turvy world, people.
J.J. Sefton on January 11, 2010 at 8:03 PM
I think you mean Daniel Goldhagen?
RINO in Name Only on January 11, 2010 at 8:05 PM
YIPES! I did mean Daniel Goldhagen. And I didn’t even attend Ace’s Moron Meet-up today. Sheesh. I need a shot of Valu-Rite.
J.J. Sefton on January 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM
I hope Stone explains who the person is that played a big part in the rise of Hitler and ultimately WWII: Woodrow Wilson. Just like another president I know, he went to Europe with lofty, progressive ideas. He was welcomed as the savior of the world in Paris, but was thoroughly bulled and run over by the Europeans–so we end up with many small countries with no say in their own affairs divided up among the Europeans and a Germany that was forced to pay such a penalty that the country was financially destroyed. Hey, but Wilson got the League of Nations. That really went over well in the states.
I doubt Stone will say much about Wilson since his name was followed by a “D”
ReaganWasRight on January 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM
The World at War will suffice in understanding how Hitler came to power. Really simple, Germany was humiliated at the end of WWI, the depression was disasterous to the economy, between the end of WWI and the early 30′s there was constant political violence in the streets. Hitler promised everyone a job, return of respectability for Germany, and an end to all the violence in the streets. So, out of sheer desperation they turned to Hitler and the Nazi party. There, no need for a movie.
Capitalist Infidel on January 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM
I think that’s usually taught in like 4th grade, except maybe in very left leaning school districts, where the kids are too busy playing with anatomically correct dolls.
RINO in Name Only on January 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM
Stone is mentally unbalanced and not much as a film maker.
It’s all narcissism, all about him, and has been for years.
The size and scope of his subjects (he believes) define his own scope and size (ego). Oliver Stone could no more make a simple, compelling film about a lost woman with the voice of an angel working in a diner in Montana to support herself and her daughter, than he could fly to the moon on a saucer.
Think about it. What’s the hype consist of? “Oliver Stone does… X…. Nixon, the Holocaust, the Massacre at Munich…” Blah, blah and blah. It’s all about WHAT major historical event he’s decided to take on next. It’s not about his film making, it’s always about what he’s making a film about.
Has there ever been a man more impressed with himself? Not even the man in the White House can top Stone, and that’s saying a lot.
IndieDogg on January 11, 2010 at 8:38 PM
The only reason Hitler hated commies is because he considered it a Jewish movement. Ironically Naizsm was a direct plagiarism of this “jewish” idea, with only surface changes to the packaging, ie: Capitalists = Jews & and Proletariat = German Gentiles. Anyone who thinks Hitler’s antisemitism/ racism/ homophobia/ other -isms makes him right wing need only look at despicable behavior their left wing allies in Brazil, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe have employed against racial, ethnic, and tribal minorities in their own countries.
abobo on January 11, 2010 at 8:43 PM
The first was a war the European powers got themselves into by becoming entangled in a web of alliances, something our forefathers specifically warned about. The second was a war in which the entire free world fought for its very survival.
Also, the start of the second world war was directly a result of the ruinous terms of surrender on Germany imposed at the end of the first.
Dark-Star on January 11, 2010 at 8:45 PM
He (Stalin) fought the German war machine more than any single person.
He also signed the non aggression pact so that more than any other person he freed Hitler to unleash his war machine.
Gwillie on January 11, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Watch and learn, d-bag, watch and learn.
Just because he’s too much of a spineless P***Y to claim someone is bad or good doesn’t mean I am.
Just FYI, dear man – Hitler was bad. See? not so hard.
mjk on January 11, 2010 at 8:53 PM
“Libs in America don’t know the connections between their policies and (fill in the blank).”
JellyToast on January 11, 2010 at 8:57 PM
Nailed it, dude. Right on. Worked in show biz for 25+ years and knew of Stone way back when. Total arrogant no-talent prick, and I don’t mean that as a Hollywood badge of honor.
J.J. Sefton on January 11, 2010 at 9:05 PM
Yes the Nazi rise to power is fascinating history, particularly the intrigues that led to Hitler’s appointment as chancellor. No, I would never describe Hitler as likeable. Although he was not a dour or angry man in his private relationships he was above all a racialist. He was filled with hatred for Jews, slavs and other non-Germans. He had a weird kind of animal magnetism from his voice, his gesticulation and his choice of words that he could whip people into frenzies. He was a master demagogue, and a big part of Naziism was the psuedo religious aspect of the rallies.
This is pretty good but you should remember that between the post-war hyper inflation period, when the freikorps were battling the Kommunists in the streets, and the Great Depression of the early thirties when the Nazi brownshirts were marching, there was period in the mid to late 20s when the Weimar Republic was pretty stable. Part of the problem was structural. The Weimar Republic had representation in the Reichstag for any party polling at least 5%, and that led to fractured small parties and very unstable coalition governments. The Nazis exploited that by repeatedly walking out, forcing disolution of the Reichstag and repeated elections. Even then the Nazis never polled a majority, but frustration with the paralysis led Hindenburg to name Hitler chancellor in a coalition.
Ted Torgerson on January 11, 2010 at 9:05 PM
But of course that won’t stop the public schools, the universities and the media from presenting Stone’s rubbish as a “viable historical study.”
Gator Country on January 11, 2010 at 9:09 PM
The Brits and Americans were eager to avoid war also. Like the Soviets, the U.S. avoided war until attacked.
dedalus on January 11, 2010 at 9:15 PM
Well Hitler loved dogs so of course he wasn’t so bad. Maybe he’ll work in a Michael Vick angle. :O)
Wonder how he’ll pursue this line while still sanctifying FDR? Afterall if Hitler and Stalin are more sympathetic why would the icon of liberalism go to such great (and illegal) lengths to defeat him and Germany? My guess he’ll have Churchill as the heavy who duped Roosevelt into opposing Hitler (heck, he could use Pat Buchanan as one of the scriptwriters).
Newman65 on January 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM
The Dean will be the first one in line. Probably.
BadgerHawk on January 11, 2010 at 9:27 PM
The Brits didn’t sign a non aggression pact The Americans didn’t divide Poland
Gwillie on January 11, 2010 at 9:27 PM
More than any other person… pfffft. And where did he get his supplies, Ollie?
Stalin sent millions off to die, then killed millions.
I’d love for Stone to premier this film in Kiev and Warsaw.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and McCarthy? McCarthy? How the hell does McCarthy get in that group?
Stone is a deranged fool.
reaganaut on January 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM
Liberal Fascism, anyone?
Jonah Goldberg must be smiling right about now.
Golden Boy on January 11, 2010 at 9:36 PM
He lost me at “but”.
4shoes on January 11, 2010 at 9:37 PM
OMG!!! It just gets better and better! So, has Mr. Stone massacred and wiped out millions of people too? Because that’s what these two mass murderers are known for. Who really gives a rat-f*ck what came before in these monsters lives?
4shoes on January 11, 2010 at 9:41 PM
The Brits signed the Munich Pact. Long after Poland was invaded, prominent Americans like Robert Taft were arguing against aiding the Allies.
dedalus on January 11, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Why do so few people seem to realize a few simple truths about Hollywood entertainment?
1) Oliver Stone sucks
2) Tim Burton sucks
3) Quentin Tarantino sucks
ynot4tony2 on January 11, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Some 50 million people died because of the war that Hitler started. I’m sure most of those people would see the ‘good’ in Hitler too. Perhaps Stone can include interviews with some of them in his propaganda film which will probably be edited by Goebels for accurate content. /extreme sarc
docdave on January 11, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Oliver, your 9/11 movie was devoid of politics and was actually good but when you get political, you tend to get….moronic to put it mildly.
Yakko77 on January 11, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Yep proof of the failure of liberalism… the Munich pack was not a non-aggression agreement, it did divide Czechoslovakia in exchange for a worthless promise (broken in march of 39)and bring about the most famous words of Neville Chamberlin “Peace in our time”. While this was a mistake in policy it was not a “divide the spoils” deal. To try to do any minimizing of Stalin’s roll in this shows a disregard for honesty, something that can sum up the last 10 Oliver Stone films very well.
And I assume you meant “Long Before” because the Munich Pact was signed almost 1 year prior to Sept. 1st 1939
Funny thing is I’m starting to think we’ve had this talk before…
Gwillie on January 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM
The title: That’s Hitlertainment!
BDavis on January 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Like he had a choice.
Operation Barbarossa
4.5million troops Germany invaded Russia.
McCarthy?
Wasn’t Bobby Kennedy McCarthy’s right hand man?
DSchoen on January 11, 2010 at 10:33 PM
Softening up the populace for tyranny.
curved space on January 11, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Oliver is stoned and should be subjected to it as well.
After all, there are no bad stones or good stones–even the ones that hit you square in the face and the ones that crack your skull.
Maybe the stones that miss are the good stones.
But the people who throw them don`t think so.
Depends on the stoner and the stonee?
Anyway, Oliver is stoned and should be subjected to same.
Sherman1864 on January 11, 2010 at 10:44 PM
I wrote it as I intended. The Munich Pact was signed before the invasion of Poland. However, long after Poland was invaded and Britain declared war Taft was arguing in the senate against aiding the allies in the effort to defeat Hitler.
The common belief held by Stalin, Chamberlain, Taft was that Hitler could be contained and they’d be safe. Whatever misery Hitler inflicted on the German people wasn’t the highest concern.
dedalus on January 11, 2010 at 10:49 PM
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